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  • @lyric said:
    Dr_doom_j2 said:


    SpaceCoconut said:

    What if instead of "dying" they were left alive as if the player was afk?

    Other survivors could heal and rescue the afk survivor for points, dc'ing wouldn't trigger the hatch prematurely/artificially, Evil Incarnate wouldn't be so difficult, and the killer could continue on as normal.

    I don't know what could work for a killer DC since they're hosting though..

    Thoughts? 

    Great idea.... absolutely no upvotes. You know this forun isn't about #########. Most Survivors and killers just want what they want, they don't care about balance. 

    No it’s not a great idea you don’t give a ######### about balance, you’re totally willing to [BAD WORD] the survivors over who didn’t dc and have them waste their time and be punished for someone else dc , sounds to me like someone needs a easy 4K or you wouldn’t propose an afk survivor that other survivors would be risking their lives for , if anything it should be a bot that takes over and at least does something even if they are a stupid bot I would be more ok with that than a afk survivor that immediately when I unhook isn’t gonna run away and just get me found by notifying the killer 

    Well arent they punished for the DC anyway? tell me when was the last time a 3 man survivor game actually escaped you?

  • cool

  • ive never even heard of rule 2 xD

  • so is saying you are a "vet" at this game now the new "as a rank 1 killer" xD

  • By review bombing the game to get him nerfed. :)

  • i have had this game for over a year dont know if that makes me a vet but i dont care about rank if anything it doesnt help with survivors being a more "powerful" role since its as easy to get low in ranks as it is to go up. Its a flawed system that does need to be fixed.

  • maybe because he had lots of hope for the future because of his good job and life in japan. The entity was hungry and wanted said hope.

  • I believe it was once said somewhere that the entity can only come to the physical world once great tragedy happens and during this time is when it picks people to its realm. maybe her protection symbols were just mere coincidences or maybe the old magic her village had is what originally summoned the entity to our reality to begin with.

  • @fcc2014 said:

    @xmenfanatic said:
    So, there is never a reference of the survivors eating, drinking, etc.

    Maybe this is because it would be a pointless bit of information to add to the game, but I wonder if the survivors need to in it’s realm. The Hag certainly has references to eating dragon fly wings and dead fly mud balls as add-ons to gain power, and she eats the survivors with her Mori when allowed, or after doing enough damage. Is this a special case because of her backstory?

    What do y’all think?

    I thought they were out of time and on a loop no need for sleep or sustenance.

    No they do sleep as once they get to the camp fire according to our boy Benedict Baker they get extremely calm and fall asleep, As they are sleeping they see the bloodweb.

  • Or maybe they have all lost hope and became killers.

  • Maybe Mike because he willingly came to the fog already wanting to kill.

  • traps killer shack basement

  • problem: Who gives a rats ass about emblems and rank? "id rather lose rank points to face easier survivors" you see the problem there

  • there use to be a glitch with a hack client were a survivor could become a killer and kill other survivors with the actual killer. dont know if they fixed that or not.

    But it would be cool because after a while survivoring gets boring. Should be like 6 survs 2 killers something like that but the maps would have to be bigger n #########. Would be a cool addition to kyf.

    But i dont think kyf is gonna change anytime soon as it is glitchy as hell already.

  • that....was amazing.

  • @George_Soros said:

    @Lowbei said:
    people should play both sides.

    i think “balanced perspecive” is the highest compliment you can give someone around here.

    that being said, ive seen dozens, literally dozens, of survivormains come claim to be killer mains while advocating for killer nerfs, only to check their steam profile and see zero total players sacrificed.

    May be my naivety, but I just can't wrap my head around this. Why on earth would someone try to cripple the "other" side? What's this with so many people wanting ezpz games?
    If I want it easy, I play Plants Vs Zombies or something. No salt there for sure.

    Because this game has two sides with drstically different means of play. Survivors need to survive killers need to kill both sides contradict each other splitting the community making each side hate each other for otherwise nonsensical reasons.

  • @Vietfox said:
    Global said:

    @Vietfox said:

    yeet said:

    @Vietfox said:
    
    yeet said:
    

    @Vietfox said: yeet said:

    SenzuDuck said:    @yeet said:    SenzuDuck said:
    

    @yeet said: SenzuDuck said:

    @yeet said:    Continuing with insisting that a person is making multiple accounts to get you really isn't helping your case to be honest.        He said he isn't Nickenzie, I haven't asked him if he is Nickenzie since, therefore I accept that he isn't Nickenzie.    It's just a comment on his profile states "I'm his alter ego". If you have any idea what an alter ego is you'd assume this means it's his second account, clearly not. I just think it's funny that his proof is a youtube account made in 2013.    Go back to crying about pallet distances or DS nerf not being here.
    

    The only person crying here is you, with your whining that everyone is out to get you. Yes, saying one person is using an alt account because in their profile they literally state they're Nickenzies alter ego is absolutely me saying everyone is out to get me. Move on little killer, you need the practice.

    I can probably guarantee i'm a better player than you.        AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA    "I'm better than you nurr nurrr"    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA    you probably dodge swf as well, probably dodge items too, probably dodge legacy.    Lets be honest, you only play matches that you think you'll win.        i only dodge bad pings, i have probably a 95% winrate
    

    i have been playing this game since beta, it's not particularly complex or difficult seems like you're projecting

    @yeet
    

    Wait, if your winrate is about 95% why do you claim this game is so unbalanced and survivor sided? because 95% of survivors don't play the game properly, the 5% who do beat me consistently @yeet

    To know a bit more, what is a win for you?
    
    
    
    a 4k or 3k
    
    
    
    @yeet
    

    Idk what kind of survivors you face, but the ones i do are 50/50, not 95/5, and my winrate is still quite high. About 80-85% i'd say, that's why i say this game is quite more balanced than people usually think.

    Not only that, as a survivor i've faced "non op killers" who were devastating at keeping the map pressure and ended up getting 3-4K, like yesterday against a clown. I found the hatch first but let him kill me because he did an amazing job without camping nor tunneling a single time.

    The real problem is the games ######### ranking system you never know if the survivors are de-piped rank 1s with game knowledge. While you may only be a true rank 15 further making people say the game is unbalanced which it is and the ranks just make it more of a mess.

    @Global
    While i agree rank system need to be improved i'll tell you this:
    I used to play in pc but bought the ps4  about 2 weeks ago. As a killer i got 4K from rank 20 to 9 in every single match without much effort, from 8 to 2 was a bit tougher but i got 3-4K in every match (in 4 of them i let 2 survivors escape because the other ones DCed though), and in rank one i get the results i stated above.

    I believe it also has to do with how easy getting to low ranks is giving people a false sense of "am gud at gaem" then they go against actual people from those low ranks and think that survivors are op etc. Ive been to rank 6 as nurse i know i dont belong there i aint that good as nurse most matches were 3-4ks then i faced people who knew how to counter her. Im more of a rank 10-8 kinda guy. I take pride in my rank 10 nurse.

  • @yeet said:

    @Thetruth said:
    thomasnut said:

    @yeet said:

    both of these things are caused by lag and the devs aren't literal gods so they aren't gonna be able to fix it

    its not lag.. not even close. if i get hit as i'm vaulting the window and fall down directly in front of it on the other side it's lag. when i get hit after already safely vaulting and in the process of running away that is just crappy game mechanics.

    It won’t change its to give killers a advantage.

    if you can change how the speed of light works buddy you're welcome to help them fix it

    Even then its not the true speed of light due to it having to go through a medium of air causing it to be slower ...unless you want to play in space.

  • @Vietfox said:
    yeet said:

    @Vietfox said:

    yeet said:

    @Vietfox said:
    
    yeet said:
    

    SenzuDuck said: @yeet said: SenzuDuck said:

    @yeet said:    SenzuDuck said:
    

    @yeet said: Continuing with insisting that a person is making multiple accounts to get you really isn't helping your case to be honest. He said he isn't Nickenzie, I haven't asked him if he is Nickenzie since, therefore I accept that he isn't Nickenzie. It's just a comment on his profile states "I'm his alter ego". If you have any idea what an alter ego is you'd assume this means it's his second account, clearly not. I just think it's funny that his proof is a youtube account made in 2013. Go back to crying about pallet distances or DS nerf not being here.

    The only person crying here is you, with your whining that everyone is out to get you.        Yes, saying one person is using an alt account because in their profile they literally state they're Nickenzies alter ego is absolutely me saying everyone is out to get me.    Move on little killer, you need the practice.
    

    I can probably guarantee i'm a better player than you. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "I'm better than you nurr nurrr" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you probably dodge swf as well, probably dodge items too, probably dodge legacy. Lets be honest, you only play matches that you think you'll win. i only dodge bad pings, i have probably a 95% winrate

    i have been playing this game since beta, it's not particularly complex or difficult
    
    seems like you're projecting
    

    @yeet

    Wait, if your winrate is about 95% why do you claim this game is so unbalanced and survivor sided?
    
    
    
    because 95% of survivors don't play the game properly, the 5% who do beat me consistently
    
    
    
    @yeet
    

    To know a bit more, what is a win for you?

    a 4k or 3k

    @yeet
    Idk what kind of survivors you face, but the ones i do are 50/50, not 95/5, and my winrate is still quite high. About 80-85% i'd say, that's why i say this game is quite more balanced than people usually think.
    Not only that, as a survivor i've faced "non op killers" who were devastating at keeping the map pressure and ended up getting 3-4K, like yesterday against a clown. I found the hatch first but let him kill me because he did an amazing job without camping nor tunneling a single time.

    The real problem is the games ######### ranking system you never know if the survivors are de-piped rank 1s with game knowledge. While you may only be a true rank 15 further making people say the game is unbalanced which it is and the ranks just make it more of a mess.

  • wanted to see how much bp a insidious LF would get basement camping on a 2x bp event and BBQ. with 2 kills only got 16k and never used it since.

  • @Jack11803 said:

    @SuperiorityComplex said:
    Khalednazari said:


    SuperiorityComplex said:


    Khalednazari said:

    New Alert isn't the big change. Stop crying for everything.
    Do you realise that the biggest nerf to self-care survivors is the healing time increase? It takes around 120 seconds to heal yourself completely if the killer is equipped with the anti-heal build. And it's awesome. Stop making a non-issue into an issue. Learn to adapt and play more, instead of making whiny threads. 

    Right because you can just adapt to aura reading? Lol. The perk needs to only proc outside of a chase or have a cool down, right now it doesn’t really have any counter play. 

    I say the same stuff to people who say nerf BBQ and Chili. 

    BBQ is no where near same as Alert. Please tell me how a killer is supposed to counter having his aura read several times during a chase? 

    How do you counter spirits fury, enduring, or brutal strength? You don’t. It’s a perk that’s a weak substitute for voice comms. You may think it’s strong, but you’ll barely see any change in opposition. It’s only benefit that you’ll be effected by will still just be easier chase jukes... and that’s ok. After all a perk is supposed to give you a solid benefit.

    counter it by not dropping pallets and letting the killer kill you duh.

  • @Orion said:

    @Global said:

    @Orion said:

    @Global said:
    am i the only person who doesnt understand why a mid chapter patch even exstists? why limit to juts 1 big patch after a chapter when you can juts update as you go or just make the perk changes when the chapter actually comes out. Waiting is boring especially when you are an entitled killer [BAD WORD] like me.

    To iron out bugs, have some semblance of a schedule, not break the matchmaking (different versions can't play together, so if you release 2 hotfixes a week, you break it twice a week), and because people complained about the constant hotfixes.

    Now people complain that there arent enough fixes ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    True, people will complain anyway, but I listed several other reasons why this way is better.

    True but i would like for them to fix simple glitches and exploits that could be easily fixed instead of having to wait three months for the next chapter to release.

  • @Orion said:

    @Global said:
    am i the only person who doesnt understand why a mid chapter patch even exstists? why limit to juts 1 big patch after a chapter when you can juts update as you go or just make the perk changes when the chapter actually comes out. Waiting is boring especially when you are an entitled killer [BAD WORD] like me.

    To iron out bugs, have some semblance of a schedule, not break the matchmaking (different versions can't play together, so if you release 2 hotfixes a week, you break it twice a week), and because people complained about the constant hotfixes.

    Now people complain that there arent enough fixes ¯_(ツ)_/¯

  • am i the only person who doesnt understand why a mid chapter patch even exstists? why limit to juts 1 big patch after a chapter when you can juts update as you go or just make the perk changes when the chapter actually comes out. Waiting is boring especially when you are an entitled killer ######### like me.

  • @not_fcc2014 said:

    @Tzeentchling9 said:
    Not a whole lot of options sometimes though.

    Tried to play it out fair, but the killer was too sweaty.

    If they slug and refuse to pick the survivor up and that person doesn't want to be held hostage and kept in the game too bad killer take the 3 and move on.

    that was a good episode

  • Hope you know survivor is actually supposed to be hard to play in the current state its less stressful than killer...I know right a mortal being is weaker than a demonic powered killer just crazy.

  • First 20ish hours yes after that nah.

  • prophecy says that one day the Plebian killers shall over take the Pratician Survivors......one day

  • @rlevet said:

    @Global said:
    there is nothing wrong with camping if anything it helps survivors more than the killer

    XDDDDDDDDD
    Camping is toxic and not fair play

    looping, decisive, sprint burst, adrenaline, hatch? alright.

  • If you get mad at a couple of bushes on the new map you must despise the corn fields.

  • that doesnt stop the tunneling afterward and there is nothing wrong with camping if anything it helps survivors more than the killer

  • @DwightLivesMatter said:
    Hopefully Dwight mains don't get tea thrown at them

    you cant have tea thrown at you while in a closet.

  • @Aari_Piggy66 said:
    Best mori- Amanda:  Simply because it's the ultimate well that attempt to kill them failed .......... f*ck it. plan B

    Worst mori- Trapper: It's really similar to the Wraith but unlike the Wraith you don't have that sexy ass drag the survivor to you which is so good to do when the survivors is about to get hatch or go for an exit gate. 

    you mean wraith's is like trapper's......

  • Dont know why people will buy this its getting nerfed in a coupl weeks

  • @Vietfox said:
    BL was added to counter looping and stuff. Since they reduced the number of pallets and redesigned the maps to reduce the loops BL wasn't necessary anymore. Besides, they basically nerfed BL3, and almost everyone said already that they rarely needed BL3 to get the down.

    I hope you know that much like the "buff" to pallets it didnt change anything. looping killers for 5 gens is still very much possible. Ive done it more than once on this new update.

  • $20 per new animation in the store?

  • @xxaggieboyxx said:

    @Global said:
    Nurse
    been looped one to many times.....

    nurse because i want to win lol

    what you cant take looping? loser play a fair killer like freddy

    Even tho nurse takes the most skill to actually learn out of any killer? Yea i play for fun and just letting you know going around in circles aint fun unless you are masochistic.

  • @ChesterTheMolester said:
    I think the uncloak movement speed needs a buff especially towards the end.
    There is no point moving 126% or beyond just for the Uncloak to end at 115% THEN spend most of your speed burst accelerating to full just to make up for about as much distance you lose. Increase uncloak movement speed or speed burst so you actually gain a bit more distance than lose and he'll be good.

    I still believe he should of gotten a ambush attack like piggy but thats just me.

  • For someone who is a "killer main" he sure does whine like a bitchy survivor main just because of the way someone plays. Pathetic.

  • @PinkEricka said:
    Hello all, we know all know about how terribly unbalanced this game is and how BHVR desperately needs someone to point them in the right direction, it just so happens that I find myself to be the right person.

    I thought of some good ideas that might help the game flourish into what it aspires to be.

    • Start every match with ALL survivors injured and separated into far corners of the map.
    • Remove Wiggle Meter
    • Buff Killer Speed to 150%
    • Infinite Tier 3 NOED
    • Hooks spawned side by side
    • 1 pallet per map and survivor.
    • Every survivor owns 1 pallet, if a survivor is in ownership of the pallet then another survivor can’t throw it down.

    I will tweet @Not_Queen these suggestions so it will get more recognization.

    I dont see the problem here sems good. But i do need to add that nurse shouldnt have fatigue...just a suggestion :)

  • Nurse
    been looped one to many times.....

  • No one ever said camping or tunneling took skill.

  • enough to get nurse from p1 to p3

  • @Kaelum said:
    Try running, Hex: Thrill of the Hunt, Hex: Ruin, Hex: Devour Hope, and Hex: Hallowed Grounds, all at the same time.

    You are welcome!

    A bit of a russian roulette i see ;) GG

  • I do like these changes but I have some feedback

    Fatigue:
    if all survivors are in the dream can they still do gens etc while having the fatigue debuff? because if they cant wake up they will just have to walk around for 4 minutes which might be a bit boring. Plus survivors have a extreme debuff to all action speeds. I think they should still be able to do things just not wake back up from skill checks.

    4 man exposed effect:
    I think this is a bit much xD especially since its harder to wake back up without skill checks. Like wow this is powerful poor micky comes no where close to freddy.

    Past those 2 i would like these changes. Nice job ;)

  • @Kaelum said:
    @Global you are welcome, but dude, please read the message I posted. Every single response from you leaves out key wording. Like, “has the same effect”.  At this point, you are just trolling, and guess what?  I don’t feed trolls. Good day.

    Thanks for giving up but you literally say overloading bandwidth (slowing your connection) is lag switching. Its not.

  • @Kaelum said:

    @Global said:
    The second sentence is someone literally slowing down their internet speed. It is not lag switching.

    hack wheeze

    I’m sorry, but I am just going to have to believe that you are either not capable of reading the following, or don’t understand the statement:

    @Kaelum said:
    If it only happens while you are near the killer, here are the 4 possible reasons why:

    The term “lagg switching” is nowhere in that statement.

    P.S. You should have that cough looked into.

    Alright? you do say slowing your internet speed to lower your bandwidth is lag switching thats why i said it isnt. I dont care about the part that has to do with being near a killer. you said that slowing your internet speed is lag switching and i told you it wasnt. dont understand why you are so defensive about this.

    p.s thanks man i have had a cold for a couple days.

  • @NextKillerSpongebob said:
    Are you just trying to piss off people or what?

    one at the beginning of the game and one at the end. What is so bad with that?

  • @Global said:

    @Kaelum said:
    There are multiple methods of lagg switching, of which I won’t go into detail. The most popular method right now can be done by anyone, and is fairly rampant. Simply downloading huge amounts of data while playing the game will overload your bandwidth, and has the exact same effect.

    The second sentence is someone literally slowing down their internet speed. It is not lag switching.

    hack wheeze

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