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I think Perk reworks or Perworks ….ok ok i'll move on...
Monsterous Shrine is more useful then what content creators like to give it credit for.
If you are playing a basementing build (ie My setup on hag: Monsterous Shrine, Agitation, iron Grasp, Territorial Imperative) MS is your game pacer. It speeds up the survivors hooked timer, which makes it harder to gen rush and save your friend. Now they have to get off their gens and save or they will be down a man before they rush all the gens.
Plus, that 4% happens more reliably then you would think. Especially if you've put a whole team down. If 4 people are trying to kobe, someone usualy does. if you have them on your basement hooks, this mitigates that.
In short: it's useful when playing a certain way. I'de be more willing to remove TI from my basement build, then MS. But it would be nice if the numbers were buffed a bit, since the new meta is perks that help them rush faster (prove thyself being the main but there are other builds floating out there)
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Letting the DS obsession bleed out, I’ve done it two games recently and it is the most satisfying thing as killer.☺️
welcome to the club. Juggling takes to long, and slugging makes for a more reliable hook.
If you take ds you have agreed to a TOS that says "i'm ok with being slugged for a whole game"
And I'de like to point this out as a bonus to slugging: Survivors can immediately unhook their teammate, the moment you turn and walk a couple feet. But if the target was slugged, they can't. They have to go through a healing period and can't be picked up immediately until the meter is almost full.
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I'm tired of ignoring it, as i have to ignore it literally every game. Since they went back to the old pick up times it's been horrible.
I shouldn't have to tune out trolling every single game. These flashlights are OP as it is. If you have an upgraded battery and flashlight, you will never run out of power. You can use it to your hearts content, attempt every save, and run around clicking at me.
That's not fun. It's not fun to play what is essentialy a 3 survivor game as 1 just trys to troll the killer all game.
As for having a noise based gesture to say "hey"
YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE ONE. They designed the game that way.
It's annoying, and it's one sided, which makes it ripe for trolling. And, as stated, flashlights last WAY TO LONG as it is.
edit: Also, turning on the flashlight having an initial drain of power wont stop your 'hey" clicks. It wont deplete your bat after 1 click. But it would drain it fast if you macro click the killer.
I like how people who play survivor are all about preserving this trollish behavior, while killer mains are like "yeah, i'm pretty tired of this too, and why do batteries need to have so much time when it only take 2 second to stun a killer?"
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@NurseMainBTW said:
That's why Whispers is nice to have once in a while.
Crows is much better for it in it's current form.
I wonder how they will eb with the new cooldown, which i dislike.
(best thing about crows was that it gave active tracking when they ran by a few flocks)
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@Hoodied said:
The point exploit, check the outer layers my dude
i did, i usualy just go to the basement and go afk till they leave. it happens more often then it should. this one was 15 mins, longer then it took me to 3k
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keeping this up there. maybe if i wish hard enough, a dev will see it.
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@Theluckyboi said:
Hag, i play almost every killer but i cant bear her, she is just so damn loopable, and if you have urban evasion or a flashlight her power becomes basically useless
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
Loopable hag. Someone doesn't understand the basics of hag play.
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You can thank Noob3 for that. He does it actively on his stream, and talks about doing it. It's an absolute disgrace. You can beat legion, he has some counter play to him.
"but If he wants to get you, he gets you."
Yeah, but he's not getting those other three people you were smart enough to lead him away from right? Cause you know survivors tend to spawn on the same side of the map, about 40m from eachother, cause you aren't brand new?
That mean those three people, who are not working on the same generator at the start of the game because discordance exists and it's a bad start, especially against legion, are working on 2-3 gens while you go down.
Remember kids, the world doesn't revolve around you. Just because you get hooked doesn't mean the game is over. And just because the killer kills 2 doesn't mean he won. That's like a tie game. But people act like killers shouldn't get it.
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@Peanits said:
That wouldn't really fix anything. If people are truly rushing generators, we're talking 160 second games (not counting time to travel between generators). Changing it to 110 seconds would only turn that into a 220 second game. That's not a significant difference in time, you only gained one extra minute there. That's still ~4 minutes per game.
The issue goes deeper than just the time to repair a generator. The bigger issue is the inability to apply pressure to a coordinated team. Four survivors on separate generators are working at maximum efficiency, and you can only chase one at a time. Increasing the time is not going to stop everyone else from working on generators while you chase one guy, it's just going to make it boring to sit there starting at a bar for so long.
Could use my suggestion i've been saying for a long time.
Make survivors find parts for the gen and plug them in. Keep the same amount of gen time, but divide it into 2-3 parts they have to find.
This will do 2 things, increase game time, and give survivors more chances to be caught out by the killer, as opposed to being found inside/near strong loops where generators tend to spawn.
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OMG HAG SKIN! HAG SKIN!
it looks like a recolor of her other outfits....
BUT HAG SKIN!
ahem...Now that that's over....
I wonder what killer is getting the Miner reference cosmetics? Trapper? I think that's trapper
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Share your opinion, it makes for a nice discussion or fix. So in recent killers, I find myself questioning whether or not the new killer is fair.
"The Shape" refers to how he watches people from the shadows, so they only see his silhouette or "shape" Have you not watched his movies? If i named him, I'de have called him the "Creeper" cause he always be creepin'.
The plague's decently strong. I really wish she had more addons that added more flavor to her sickness. Like blindness, or exhaustion. But she seems pretty strong, with some counter play.
What counter play? Her vomit is slow, which means you can loop her while she expels it. It also arcs, so you can run under it.
Here, Piccalo will teach you how to counter play the Plague.
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@TheBean said:
Yeah you don't hook all 4 survivors at least once in the red ranks, you might aswell pack your bags, cause you'll be lucky to black pip. You don't hook them at least twice each you might aswell stop aswell.
Then if you are survivor... If the killer only made a few hooks... Forget it aswell... Killer never finds you cause you like stealth?.. Forget it. There is no stealthing in red ranks if you want to pip, you have to be chased at some point, or basically stay in the killer radius hiding the whole match.
As survivor, the killer needs to run a perfect match for more then 1 survivor to white pip in the match, if they don't every survivor in the match will be lucky to black pip.
If the survivors play too well against the killer, they hurt the team, since nobody will earn enough emblem points.
Then if the survivors say.. ######### it... and don't save anyone and let the killer start hooking them all to kill em... They just screwed over the killer and forced them to depip.
LULS
Love it!
actually, if you gen rush the right way, you will black pip every time as a survivor. You just have to live.
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@Master said:
Im a killer main and I like the new system.
WIth the new system only the real viable killers will be able to rank up and I wont be forced versing optimal survivors with my trash killers =)
nah dude. When a perfect game nets you a depip, the system is broke.
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@Peasant said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/353554#Comment_353554
I was away at the time so you'll have to humor me, but wasn't Legion universally hated in the PTB?
They didn't have anything to fall back on for legion. They had a product they made that a chunk of people didn't like. It was release that product, and change it in the future, or release nothing. Which wasn't a choice, they refused to even delay him.
This is a change to an existing system, they have a fall back. I'm hoping they don't implement it though.
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https://youtu.be/hz625ce78fo True thinks the plague is weak and for a number of reasons you can find in the video
you arent watching todays stream.
You can't get a good estimate for a killer in a day, and he says so every killer.
He just said on stream his opinion of her went from a 3 (bad) to like 7 or 8 (good).
She takes some knowledge, but she's ok. I still think she needs more tweaks.
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@BACKSTABBER said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/353417#Comment_353417
This killer is in reality a satanic sorcerer in disguise as the plague, meant to deliver the satanic chants to eat your souls in rl
A dev stream or two ago they said they didn't have anyone, survivor or killer, speak in order to make the game feel more lonely.
so it's weird to see them backtrack on more then one thing they have said on more then one occasion. Maybe this killer marks kind of a turning point for the company. They might be looking at things in different ways.
But if you look at what they did to ranking you can see they still favor survivor, and insist on keeping it easy for them.
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@Tarvesh said:
Question: If you don’t use the corrupted wells to empower your ability, will the wells eventually be cleansed over time?
If the survivors heal from every single well, therefore corrupting them all, all wells will cleanse.
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Update:
It seems that if you puke on someone that is already sick, youw ill progress them to full sick immediately. That's not to bad, but probably a bug.
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@fcc2014 said:
@SmokePotion while i understand you being upset about potentially not pipping does it really matter? Rank rewards nothing so unless it is an ego/bragging rights thing does it really matter?
Considering they are very clearly trying to fix the "no one cares about rank except the people who can't hit rank 1" situation. yes, I'de say it does matter, and this was a bad choice in a noble effort.
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@ClogWench said:
Maybe not the exact route I would have taken but considering the complaints about it being way too easy to rank up, I think this is a decent change.
No, because it takes the scoring out of my hands, and puts it on the survivors.
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my favorite is a pair of hag add-ons.
Grandma's Heart: This removes your TR and puts it on the phantasm that spawns when your trap is set.
Rusty Shackles: This removes the phantasm, and gives survivors no indication they set off a trap.
This lets me teleport to traps and surprise attack people. It's great fun.
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@thekiller490490 said:
Check out @SpaceCoconut 's hag guide on YouTube. Great guide and he's a hag main.
It's out of date but it does show people the basics of trap set up at least. Join me in bugging him on his vids and stuff, asking him to update the guide.
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I'm a rank 1 hag. I stay at rank 1 all month long, every single month. And these are a few things to know about the hag that can get you to single digit ranks easy.
1: The hag can be insanely effective without perks or add-ons. Which means you can use any set-up that helps you. Some people like to take tracking so they know where to set traps. I don't, but many do.
2: Hag takes time at the start to set up. Don't get frustrated if they get a gen before you get a chase. Try to get someone on the hook around the second gen. Her game actualy starts now.
3: After hooking, place ONE trap at the base of the hook, then make a perimiter. you know what direction they will be running from (the hook) so set traps on the opposite side of escapes.
4: Your best traps will always be RUN PATHS. not windows, or pallets. Area's where people run from generator to generator, or loop to loop. Survivors will call these "random traps" but they aren't random, at all. When you start a game, THESE SHOULD BE MOST OF THE TRAPS YOU PUT DOWN IN THE FIRST 2 MINS.
5: AKA my fave perk setup.
I run all hexes on Hag. Ruin, Huntress' Lullaby, Devour Hope, and Thrill of the Hunt.
Why?Well, besides tip 1, and 2 above, it's simple. As a hag I want people to move around the map and set off my traps at the run paths. The totems I chose are damning if they aren't cleansed. Which means survivors will cleanse them. WHich means they aren't doing generators. Once you get your first hook,k this game slower set-up really hits it's stride. Now they have to do gens, save someone, and cleanse totems. And I'm a hag, unhooking against me usualy take 2 people to do safely.
Hope this helps! There's a LOT more to her, she has so many add-on combos that can make her play many different ways. Hope you enjoy her.
Ps: If you are having trouble tracking survivors, use pussy willows. The aura reveal will help you, especially in corn fields and other places with grass.
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@Carpemortum said:
So If trolls are trolling, they're not doing work.
What's the issue?
Do we want perks balanced so were not making one side op, or do we want to make sure people cant use them in unintended ways that waste their time and may "troll" people....
Ntm iron maiden still exists...
You've never had a 30 minute troll game, or you wouldn't be so flippant about them.
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@Science_Guy said:
2 PM EST, today.
Also, they've posted the times in multiple places and they've been doing it at the same time, if not the same day, for literally years. It's not they're fault at this point if someone doesn't know when and where.
people tend to tell me that they get posted on this persons twitter or x,y,z, social media. But i don't follow them. And I don't usualy use the platforms cause i don't care.
It would, however, be 100% easy to update the news thread with current news, or make a post on these official forums.
TY for the info everyone though :)
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Looks like some sorta plague doctor. im excited to see her power I smell something like doctor and clown mixing to make some sorta scary tracker
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DEVs, you just spit in the face of solo survivors who bought your game. The game is absolutely UNPLAYABLE for those who play to escape!
ummmmm What? The average, by actual factual numbers, is actually 2 survivors escaping per match. Just because you get killed 40% of the time doesn't mean i do.
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lol survivors man.
A few days ago idecided to do absolutely hook immunity. Where i 100% didn't go for people that were just unhooked, no matter how dumb their pathing was. I hooked every single one of them 2 times before sacking them, and prety much everything else in their "rules" they want you to play by. (Nothing even close to camping, not even patroling, i didn't slug anyone, ect.)
After the game, still had 2 people talking #########, saying things like i was camping and tunneling.
as the killer you are their bad guy, remember that. In higher ranks people are usualy more respectful...usualy...
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Nah this is him. All the female survivors better watch out.
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@Ember_Hunter said:
Dang, Spirit is really popular -.- On the other hand, as a mostly survivor, I have only survived the Spirit once, every single time, she always sneak attacks me and finds me, even though she has the "Can't see survivors while moving through walls" thing. O.o
She is really scary.
She can't see survivors while sh'es invisible, but a good spirit player plays by sound. That's why most spirit players stopped when the sound broke.
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I'm glad this is still going! lots of good info here. If we are lucky the devs might even take a peek to see what people are digging on.
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@Orion said:
I'd say 40 seconds. 20-30 is too short, and 60 is indeed too long (at least on paper). Other than that, I agree with this.originally i put 40, but shortened it to 30. probably because I'm a killer main, and 40 still sounded strong.
But that probably is where it needs to be.
edit: Made the original post 30-40. After running the numbers, that's probably the best fit time. Still pretty strong. But the survivors probably won't get any gen work done with ds active.
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@TwilightKitty10 said:
Easy? Lol I must be a crappy player. 8 is the highest I have been.I can see how everyone would eventually be a 1. It just really sucks. I dropped 6 ranks. That's too much
8 is actually good. Many players can't get to that rank. Single digits are where you start to get survivors that know what they are doing.
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@Ihatelife said:
So the perk will be active for 30 seconds and it will be last if you are in the dying state right? But if you stand up you lose the DS?Correct. Sorta. It hasn't been used, so it would still be available to use later.
Either way, you just got another "life" as a survivor.
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@Ember_Hunter said:
@SmokePotion said:
@Ember_Hunter said:
@SmokePotion said:
yeah, this happens to me sometimes. But if you wiggle around a bit they wont pop up i think.Not sure, once I got crows, but Even if I try to run around, they would not go until I started up a generator.
Oh no, I meant, if you wiggle around while hiding from the killer, they wont show up to begin with. They show up if you stand perfectly still for an extended period
I did not know that. But then again, the guy above said that if he moved slightly.
Yeah, i kept getting birds when playing Lery's as a survivor (one of my fave maps, but sometimes you gotta hide in a dark corner for a couple tense moments)
One day I watched TrueTalent and was like "why isn't he getting birds like i do on this map" and that's when i realized it's cause he, and most streamers, wiggle a bit, or tea bag, or otherwise put inputs in when they are giving the killer the old shinobi.
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@Ember_Hunter said:
@SmokePotion said:
yeah, this happens to me sometimes. But if you wiggle around a bit they wont pop up i think.Not sure, once I got crows, but Even if I try to run around, they would not go until I started up a generator.
Oh no, I meant, if you wiggle around while hiding from the killer, they wont show up to begin with. They show up if you stand perfectly still for an extended period
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yeah, this happens to me sometimes. But if you wiggle around a bit they wont pop up i think.
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@NuclearBurrito said:
An ebony mori reduces the number of hooks needed by 2. And the number of chases needed by 4 out of 12.
This statement is not correct. If you as a killer are putting enough pressure on the team of survivors, then you will probably be 2 hooking most of them.
It's absolutely a time saver, but not on the level you are implying.
They are also pretty rare.
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I'de say both. Both would ignore me IRL.
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@thesuicidefox said:
@thekiller490490 said:
With M&A, stealth hag FLYep. M&A is part of my core build.
HOWEVER if you want to be extra ninja use Tinkerer, Mint Rag, and Gramma's Heart, then offer Macmil bone.
SPOOPINESS INTENSIFIES
I use rusty shackles and grandma's heart.
No Terror radius ninja hag.
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Killer really is stressful. but that's kinda why it's fun. You have to do things. You have to outsmart the survivors. The match is their's to lose.
As opposed to sneaking up to a gen, and holding a button, and tapping another one sometimes. If they made you have to find the parts of the gens the survivors fix, that side of the game would be more fun for me.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
Those are old Totem Spawns, they did not change them, they just added a few new Locations.Those are quite ok, but they should change the appearance of the Totems. They look nice from a visual aspect, but they can be seen quite good when lit, even when they are decently hidden.
They didn't add locations. They changed the code so that totems are able to spawn closer to items now. Which has caused some gameplay issues. (check out monto's adept bill vid if you want to see him get stuck on a hidden totem)
@Master said:
I totally stole this image.
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@BigBadPiggy said:
I think David in a sports jersey would be more appropriate.I dunno. I think he's compensating.
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Depends on the map. When it spawns in the middle of a cornfield, all nice and bright, about 2 steps.
Generally speaking, it lasts for 1 hook. It's a trade off perk. Instead of losing 2 generators for your first hook (on average) you will lose 1 totem.
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@MegMain98 said:
@SmokePotion said:
@SuperPrincessChaser said:
Any Killers you guys can play Add-Onless with results?
I have, for the longest time, played Hag at rank 1 with no perks and add-ons.
Recently though I've been getting to rank 1 using Legion, Spirit, Hag and Billy without any perks or add-ons.
just an FYI: there are tournaments where no one (survivor or killer) uses perks, addons, or offerings.
edit: And to answer you, I personally think you can use any killer this way, with enough love, time, and knowledge of how to handle loops.
Any killer can be good without add-ons if the player knows how to use the killer properly, but you gotta admit that some killers depend on add-ons more than others. Nurse is not able to be looped, she is great without add-ons. While Legion is good at handling loops, they are basically unviable without Frank’s Mix Tape or other good add-ons. Billy constantly has an instadown at his disposal and Spirit can handle loops due to mind game potential.
Top tier killers like Nurse, Billy, and Spirit are viable without add-ons or perks while others (Legion, Freddy, Wraith) are REALLY dependent on good add-ons and perks. Not saying it is impossible to 4K with them though, just very hard to especially at Rank 1.
Considering I keep 4king with no add-ons or perks with Legion, i disagree. Some killers have an easier time of it sure, I wouldn't want to try it with leatherface, personally. But i know leatherface players that can play rank 1 with no perks or add-ons. I even knew a guy that used ONLY A SPEED LIMITER at rank 1. No perks, no add-ons, no instadowns, just a fat guy with a hammer, and a half useless chainsaw.
If you know your killer, and know the loops and the maps, any killer you like to play, is viable. If you want proof, just watch any good killer streamer. They will eventually do killers with perk roulette. It's the oldest proof that no killer needs any perk. Even freddy gets ran with useless perk combos at rank 1, and gets 3-4k's.
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@SuperPrincessChaser said:
Any Killers you guys can play Add-Onless with results?
I have, for the longest time, played Hag at rank 1 with no perks and add-ons.
Recently though I've been getting to rank 1 using Legion, Spirit, Hag and Billy without any perks or add-ons.
just an FYI: there are tournaments where no one (survivor or killer) uses perks, addons, or offerings.
edit: And to answer you, I personally think you can use any killer this way, with enough love, time, and knowledge of how to handle loops.
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I was just talking about that on stream. it's weird th> @Delfador said:
@Ihatelife said:
Only, if he is handsomeThanks god somebody understands.
We need a handsome latino, and a white blonde athletic guy in the game.
This is more important than dedicated servers at least for me.
It's about representation, not sex appeal. Anyways, there's already a shirtless white guy.
@Peanits said:
Jake Park is Korean (at least, that's the best assumption based on the lore we have so far). We know he's Asian-American, but beyond that the clue we have to go on is his last name, which is common in Korea according to Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_(Korean_surname) (So you know it's true.)I'm not against it by any means though. Hopefully one day there will be one along with a matching folklore killer, like Coco: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coco_(folklore)
I love when little bits like that make it into the game, like how the huntress hums a Russian lullaby.
There's a couple of asian, black and white people to choose from. But nobody of Hispanic or Latino decent, even though they live in almost every country.
It would be pretty cool to get a Chupacabra in the game, a monster that gets stronger as it hurts or kills survivors.
I know I brought this topic up several months ago, it's nice to see I'm not the only person that thinks it's weird this one demographic got overlooked for so long.
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@Might_Oakk said:
Cosmetics output now triples to pay off lawsuitThat's something I'm not opposed to, lol.
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@KillerRaccoon said:
I definitely have not heard of this lawsuit until now. Could you maybe link the source of where you heard this information?Here is one of MANY vids you can find on youtube. just google "westworld game lawsuit"
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@Vietfox said:
I've been playing solo for the last 4 hours and i've been dodged in 9 out of 10 lobbies. Seriously, uninstall DbD and go play something else.
Some of you will say "oh, maybe they saw 4 survivors spawn at the same time". Some did, but MANY others saw me alone in the lobby, then TWO more spawning at the same time and then leave.
Seriously lobbydodgers, grow a damn pair. This is getting ridiculous.Sounds like the killer saw 3 people load into the lobby and realized "this lobby is going to be bugged, time to remake"
Remember that lobbys will fail to load a 4th person a lot of times, if 3 are in the lobby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0d7sq-F_NM