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I sometimes think that it is not. There are days when I get 5 rotten fields in a row. Getting the same realm is one thing, getting 1 map out of 20 maps, 5 times in a row is just meh.
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@Boss said:
Thanks to most of his Add-ons not being balanced around him & having the most powerful melee weapon at base, i wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even get a QoL change for a long time.The speed Add-ons & Chili Add-ons still suck hard btw.
I agree with you.
The devs have this false belief that getting kills=balance.
They don't think about how a killer gets his kills.
For example Freddy, leatherface and billy get their kills with entirely different mechanics.
You don't need to camp with billy, you don't need to tunnel with him. On the other hand, you have leatherface who camps his survivors 80% of the time. Freddy tunnels survivors to death.
While I agree that camping and tunneling are a part of the game, it doesn't change the fact that they are a boring part of the game. What devs need to look at is how many hooks a killer gets, how much time does he spend near hooks, and how many times the guy who is just unhooked gets hooked without anybody else getting hooked.
Killers might not need to think about survivors' fun but devs clearly have to. Releasing or creating killers that promote camping and tunneling is not a good way to go.
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@douggie123 said:
Also let's be fair which killer in the right mind if they hook someone and see all survivors or at least one anyway crouched right next to the hook ready to save would leave the hook. That's just pathetic and you might as well say "Hey survivors fancy a free win"I would?
Why not go and down the survivor that is crouching right next to the hook?
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I have just been threatened with 2 LOLs today.
People were misusing it and mods decided to remove it. It was a good call.
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@Vietfox said:
I think billy should have his walking speed reduced to 110 considering he's really good at the map pressure.I disagree.
The main reason why 110% movement speed exists is because those killers have abilities that make loops very dangerous. For example, Shack is a very safe place for survivors against most killers but huntress can easily shot you and hag can trap and close the loop. If you redcu billy's ms to 110, he is gonna be one of the worst killers in the game.
@EntityDispleased said:
The main issue with LF is how slow he goes when revving up his chainsaw, and how his chainsaw Sprint doesn't make up for the lost distance. He revs up his chainsaw at 87.5% speed (I believe) and sprints at normal killer speed which is 115%. If you were to rev up the chainsaw while not being close enough to a survivor that you touch them, they have a really good chance at dodging your chainsaw by simply running straight because your chainsaw Sprint will end before you hit them.I understand they made his ability a high risk high reward type of ability but at this point the risk is so high that the reward doesn't seem that worth it.
I agree but I am not sure if we should do both. Leatherface should either get more ms when he is revving up or more speed while he is in the animation. I kinda like ms in animation more though.
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P3 Claudette
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@brokedownpalace said:
Leatherface needs a reduced terror radius. Like 24m.And Billy's chainsaw noises need to be directional.
Yeah reduced terror radius and a little bit faster charge could make him a better killer.
Still wouldn't beat hillbilly but at least if we want to be sneaky, we can choose Leatherface.
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@Wolf74 said:
@Delfador said:
@Wolf74 said:
@Boss said:
Again, very simple: You wanna talk about the fun of winning and/or losing? Don't derail the discussion that's not talking about it.
This is the discussion.
Better watch out what questions you ask if you might not like the answer.
Weak killer that have a hard time killing someone are not "fun".
If that is "derailing" for you fine.
But how should it be fun to run around and achieve nothing, but a couple of hits..
As a killer I am enjoying chases that I can … guess what? drumroll ... WIN.I don't say I want an easy 4k every match (I just say that, because for sure some idiot will come and claim that), but "fun" is about achieving something. Down some people, hook some people, kill some people.
Hit and run would be fine -I play like that with Doc and Hag all the time- but it has to be meaningful to do so to be "fun".He specifically said that if you don't have fun because you can't get 4k or win, he is not interested in what you have to say.
If he didn't mention it, you would be right but I don't see any reason to discuss about it. You should understand his reason too because it is obvious that you don't have fun when you lose over and over again. Most probably he wants other reasons for why people find the legion fun or boring.
And here we go, the first one talking about a 4k.^^
I would give a well earned LOL, but the button is gone.
Nice attitude, "I don't like the answer, stop talking to me". overandout
Instead of realizing your own mistake and try to talk about what OP wanted to talk about, you 'threaten' somebody that is trying to help you with LOLs.
You are unreasonable, have a nice day.
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@BACKSTABBER said:
you dont need to to anything, maths dont fail, and choosing 4 perks among 122 wont be possible, besides buliding tier 3 perks from the bloodweb will be a nightmare, you will see how we have more than 4 slots, ppl will claim for that!Sorry buddy but this doesn't make sense at all.
Not everybody claims for that. The very evidence is in this thread.
Building tier 3 perks from the bloodweb has absolutely nothing to do with extra perk slots.
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@White_Owl said:
Time to nerf the Hillbilly!/s
I should have foreseen this.
Sorry guys I just doomed Hillbilly.
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@Wolf74 said:
@Boss said:
Again, very simple: You wanna talk about the fun of winning and/or losing? Don't derail the discussion that's not talking about it.
This is the discussion.
Better watch out what questions you ask if you might not like the answer.
Weak killer that have a hard time killing someone are not "fun".
If that is "derailing" for you fine.
But how should it be fun to run around and achieve nothing, but a couple of hits..
As a killer I am enjoying chases that I can … guess what? drumroll ... WIN.I don't say I want an easy 4k every match (I just say that, because for sure some idiot will come and claim that), but "fun" is about achieving something. Down some people, hook some people, kill some people.
Hit and run would be fine -I play like that with Doc and Hag all the time- but it has to be meaningful to do so to be "fun".He specifically said that if you don't have fun because you can't get 4k or win, he is not interested in what you have to say.
If he didn't mention it, you would be right but I don't see any reason to discuss about it. You should understand his reason too because it is obvious that you don't have fun when you lose over and over again. Most probably he wants other reasons for why people find the legion fun or boring.
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@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3. He have basically no terror radius with monitor and abuse even at tier 2. basically he's a better wraith who don't even need to decloak and have instadowns when he needs io. Give him normal terror radius at tier 2 since his as trong as a trapper in that form, so M&A wouldn't make him bull$hit to play agains.As strong as trapper? Is trapper supposed to be a strong killer?
Myers is fine, just learn how to play as and against him.
Also he is not in the top 3 by a long shot. Nurse, spirit, billy, huntress and hag heavily mogs him to oblivion.
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@AmorePrincess said:
I look forward to him. Yeah, I see the videos, and understand the frustration. But everyone said the spirit was #########, and she is the only killer I love up in red ranks. So I tend to not listen until I have the controls myself.My friend played legion on ptb and said he hated him, but after a few days he loves him. So I guess its up to every player to see how he fit into their style. When I watched my friend play after he got somewhat good on him, I can say that I thought it looked really fun.
But I used to main hag, so speed has never been a thing for me
Spirit was ######### in the PTB though.
She wasn't able to hear survivors because of her loud phasing and the cooldown was really long.
After the changes, she became really cool.
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@Boss said:
@Master said:
I dont have fun losing, achieving nothing towards my objective of the game.
But thats just my opinion and there are probably some people out there that love to troll around with killers like that.Just a shame that the devs keep adding to the unviable killers instead of increasing the variety of viable killers...... they say it themselves, wanna play competitive? Then play billy and nurse....... wheres my lul button btw?
I literally tried to get people to not bring up the fun aspect of winning/losing.
He is fun when you use your power, sense nearby survivors, ignore pallets and windows, run like a maniac. After that period, with 110% ms, he is a pain in the ass, get looped to oblivion and the fun you get just gets lost.
He is a frustrating killer and unlike what devs claim him to be, not fun at all. Imagine the fun you would have if you played huntress with no hatchets.
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@redsopine01 said:
Ok I don't know how to do that could a mod remove the picture for me and do you know what it says on English I don't speak frenchYou can use the text Orion gave you and translate it with google translation.
He said something like you can't put the survivors on hooks. At least this is what translate told me
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Baby feng mins, claudettes and leatherfaces are so cute.
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Even if they did that, it wouldn't be enough for you, lets be real here.
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@Broosmeister said:
All the killers who can travel long distances in a short time are 110% speed. Spirit, hag, the legion and huntress ( can hit people from a long distance ) i seriously don't get why hillbilly is 115% speed. That just makes him overpowered, he can instadown people easily, he can find people easily and get to people quickly before they can hide. Billy should walk slower on his own.and all of those 110% ms killer has some kind of power against looping.
Billy doesn't have this therefor doesn't need any kind of nerf.
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Billy is the most balanced killer out there.
He is very strong and has lots of potential, but when it comes to looping, him and leatherface is more or less the same (Though billy's chainsaw is much easier than leatherface's despite what people believe).
You have every single tool in your hand, not like when you face the nurse.
Nurse is the only broken killer in the entire game.
One thing is interesting though. A killer like hillbilly doesn't have any kind of weaknesses but wraith can get burned and the legion has 110% ms. Devs' idea of balance is rather different.
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@DocOctober said:
I'm talking about Survivors of course. I've been playing a couple of games tonight as Solo Survivor and I honestly have [BAD WORD] had it with my fellow Survivors.5 games had bad Killers who couldn't catch Survivors for #########, but still, the Killers ended up with 3-4 kills each round even though at the time of the Exit Gates becoming powered, there were still 3-4 alive.
I don't understand how you guys have the audacity to complain about how difficult your Survivor life if you throw games as soon as you get downed, don't cleanse totems and get caught by NOED or are so immensely altruistic that instead of just getting the [BAD WORD] out and sacrifice one of your team mates, you hang around for desperate unhook attempts that more often than not end with another 1-2 dead Survivors in the end.
I'd really prefer it if you guys could man up a bit, grow a pair, make the game more enjoyable for the Solos so that we don't have to hope "please don't be another group of idiots, please not another bunch of stupid Survivors" each and every single game we play.
It's no surprise that the average game ends with 2.5 dead Survivors if you guys practically [BAD WORD].
Well, survivor mains in this forum repeatedly tried to remind you that not everybody plays like the depip squad. Survivor mains themselves were the ones who were saying that playing solo was unbearable and their teammates were potatos. It is forum killers that come up with the worst case scenarios that could happen to killers and want to balance the game around it.
Now the same forum killers think that the hatch is completely unfair and should be eradicated because the work that the survivors do is not enough for them.
Just like you hope that the next match you don't get another stupid survivor team, survivors also hope that they don't get another unskilled camper and tunneler and actually play the game with generators, chases, savings etc. I tried to leave the match as soon as possible so that I wouldn't get the same camper over and over again.
I just thanked a huntress today just because she didn't camp in the Lery's today.
There is not much difference between survivors and killers. Threads like this serves no purpose either.
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Actually if the legion had no red stain, no terror radius, was able to crouch like a survivor and at the same height with survivors, and had 3rd person view with 110% ms, he would be really really fun to play and play against.
At that point, I don't even care if I got a kill or not. That would be great.
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@KiraElijah said:
Attackfrog said:How about a Norwegian one? Maybe someone with VERY light skin tone? Ann albino maybe?
No more darker skin tones please. IDC if the game gets branded as racist...the lighter the skin tone, the better.
A moment where downvote would be nice
That's okay. We still have our flag.
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Dude Jeff fcking rocks.
I am so glad that I am gonna main him.
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We should nerf that perk and make it a non-hex perk.
That perk right now feels like the ######### sibling of ruin.
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Well it is not swamp we all know that.
I would love to see a new Asylum map. I just love the setting. It has 2 maps already so it doesn't count I guess.
Then my vote would be for preschool. I love that map's setting too.
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Guys, survivors can't even get their 3k survival points. 100 is okay!
But I understand you. That 32k point screen is just so satisfying.
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@Ihatelife said:
Only, if he is handsomeThanks god somebody understands.
We need a handsome latino, and a white blonde athletic guy in the game.
This is more important than dedicated servers at least for me.
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Wake up is such a garbage perk.
Just by looking around you when the last generators are completed, you can see where the exit gates are. I can do that even when I am in a chase.
You can make an educated guess about which doors will be opened by your fellow survivors. Showing you whether survivors are opening the door is kinda helpful but not really much.
2.5 seconds is like nothing imo. I accept that I have had matches from which I could escape if only I had 1 more second to open the exit gate. However, compared to rest of the matches, you can ignore those matches.
I put wake up in the same category with unrelenting. If you are a newbie, it is a perk that you can use but when you pass rank 15, there are way more helpful perks.
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@Orion said:
@Delfador said:
As a killer you know, you need to do something to earn the down right?
Go into frenzy and get a free hit, then get a down because the survivor couldn't find anybody. Balanced for sure.
I am not gonna even talk about what will happen if both survivors need mending. At this current state, one of them will get downed no matter what.
I kinda understand why they don't listen to community now.You'd have enough time to Mend if you started shortly after the Legion hit you with Feral Frenzy. Just saying.
He says it should stop if another survivor is mending you.
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As a killer you know, you need to do something to earn the down right?
Go into frenzy and get a free hit, then get a down because the survivor couldn't find anybody. Balanced for sure.
I am not gonna even talk about what will happen if both survivors need mending. At this current state, one of them will get downed no matter what.
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@thesuicidefox said:
Ever since "down vote" was removed, forumers have been using LOL button as an alternative. While I generally don't care, it's getting quite out of hand especially in this thread where someone LOL'd every single dev post. I know that @only1biggs has been followed around to have every single post given a LOL in spite. Simply because people don't agree with him and just want to be toxic."Vote Up" should be the only option you get.
PS. I'm sure this post will get 10 LOL's by the end of the day. And I know who will be giving them too. The irony is they are actually the joke around here.
I agree with this.
Downvote option is actually better than LOL imo.
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Would you mind if I ask you who the community is?
Don't you see the forum? Do you actually believe that we can agree on creating a survivor or a killer?
According to survivors, every new patch is another way that the devs hold killers' hands, according to killers, every new patch is another way that the devs show their gratitude for their larger playerbase.
People start to complain after every single new chapter release, throw insults at the devs, everybody starts to talk about hop OP the opposite side's perks are.
I hope they don't listen to community at this point. They should choose a couple of veterans who play the game consistently and instead of whining, trying to improve themselves. Make them play the killers before the PTB, get their opinion and build their own ideas on top of it. -
@SenzuDuck said:
I love when people say things like "The BB&C change forces me to camp" Or the "Borrowed time change makes me tunnel/camp".You're probably already playing this way anyway, you just want further reasons to do so.
Exactly my thoughts.
I can understand BBQ, but borrowed time? If anything, borrowed time change should not force you to camp. -
@Raccoon said:
@Delfador said:
@only1biggs said:
@Delfador said:
@only1biggs said:
@Raccoon said:
It's unfortunate that toxicity like this exists in the forums.
I edited my post
My point remains though. I'm not being toxic.
You think camping and tunneling isn't "toxic"?
It ruins peoples game.As much as I hate camping and tunnelling, I don't think they are toxic.
Ruining people's game is something that you purposely do it like tbagging, flashlight clicking or hitting survivors on the hook.
If we call camping and tunneling toxic, then the killers can call flashlight saves, DS, genrushing toxic too since it ruins the game at least for them.What? Teabagging doesn't affect your game play. Neither does being hit on hook.
Flashlights are part of the game that can be played around easily.
They are taunting you. Keep in mind that I never get taunted by hitting people on the hook or tbagging or flashlight clicking. I am talking about an average killer.
I never claimed flashlights are difficult to play around. Flashlight clicking and actually using them are completely two different things.
Barring a macro to crash the game, flashlight clicking is also perfectly fine.
It can be an annoyance, but that's the purpose - to draw the killer's attention/ire.Oh since you think camping is okay, I assume it is not toxic.
Since annoying people like tbag or flashlight clicking is not toxic, there is no toxicity in the game?
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@only1biggs said:
@Delfador said:
@only1biggs said:
@Raccoon said:
It's unfortunate that toxicity like this exists in the forums.
I edited my post
My point remains though. I'm not being toxic.
You think camping and tunneling isn't "toxic"?
It ruins peoples game.As much as I hate camping and tunnelling, I don't think they are toxic.
Ruining people's game is something that you purposely do it like tbagging, flashlight clicking or hitting survivors on the hook.
If we call camping and tunneling toxic, then the killers can call flashlight saves, DS, genrushing toxic too since it ruins the game at least for them.What? Teabagging doesn't affect your game play. Neither does being hit on hook.
Flashlights are part of the game that can be played around easily.
They are taunting you. Keep in mind that I never get taunted by hitting people on the hook or tbagging or flashlight clicking. I am talking about an average killer.
I never claimed flashlights are difficult to play around. Flashlight clicking and actually using them are completely two different things.
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@only1biggs said:
@Raccoon said:
It's unfortunate that toxicity like this exists in the forums.
I edited my post
My point remains though. I'm not being toxic.
You think camping and tunneling isn't "toxic"?
It ruins peoples game.As much as I hate camping and tunnelling, I don't think they are toxic.
Ruining people's game is something that you purposely do it like tbagging, flashlight clicking or hitting survivors on the hook.
If we call camping and tunneling toxic, then the killers can call flashlight saves, DS, genrushing toxic too since it ruins the game at least for them. -
Says tunneling is a stupid term made up by angry people
Continues with gen rushing
Great logic
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I bought everything, and gonna buy this one too.
I was displeased with the spirit too, however, despite forum members claiming that the devs favor one side over the other, they actually care about it and fix them. Spirit is a top tier killer now, and this one is gonna improve in the future as well, I am sure of it.
I love supporting the games I play.
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@Raccoon said:
@Delfador said:
@Raccoon said:
Since the perk now uses DW, there's literally ZERO reason not to tunnel the person that was unhooked, as the amount of effort in downing the unhooker (if they're healthy) is literally the same, without the potential of the unhooked BT survivor going down for you to search for after you get the unhooker. Plus, they're up a hook state, which instantly makes switching a bad move now.
It also provides extra incentive to camp the BT user out of the game on the first hook, as you'll lose more than two minutes restarting a chase from scratch (thanks to the DW) over multiple unhooking instances.
I don't initiate a fight here but you make absolutely no sense.
In the first paragraph, you say that tunneling the hooked survivor is better because him and his rescuer takes the same amount of effort. Why would you tunnel the hooked person if not it is easier? If we are talking about hook states, it is the same before the change. Borrowed time change doesn't affect it.
After this you say that BT user should be camped. Then why on earth, have you tunneled the first person? Get the borrowed time user and camp him instead of tunneling the unhooked survivor.
It seems to me you are just salty and throwing
How am I going to know that someone is running Borrowed Time without hitting the unhooked survivor first?
Why would I go for the uninjured survivor if I don't have this information?
Why do you say that you are gonna camp the borrowed time user than?
Also, next time the same thing will happen again. Though it seems it is desirable to go after the injured survivor, in the long run, borrowed time user will get another chance to rescue the hooked survivor.
If anything, borrowed time change doesn't encourage people to camp or tunnel. Forum users, both survivors and killers, are ready to threaten anything they don't want. It doesn't help at all.
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@Raccoon said:
Since the perk now uses DW, there's literally ZERO reason not to tunnel the person that was unhooked, as the amount of effort in downing the unhooker (if they're healthy) is literally the same, without the potential of the unhooked BT survivor going down for you to search for after you get the unhooker. Plus, they're up a hook state, which instantly makes switching a bad move now.
It also provides extra incentive to camp the BT user out of the game on the first hook, as you'll lose more than two minutes restarting a chase from scratch (thanks to the DW) over multiple unhooking instances.
I don't initiate a fight here but you make absolutely no sense.
In the first paragraph, you say that tunneling the hooked survivor is better because him and his rescuer takes the same amount of effort. Why would you tunnel the hooked person if not it is easier? If we are talking about hook states, it is the same before the change. Borrowed time change doesn't affect it.
After this you say that BT user should be camped. Then why on earth, have you tunneled the first person? Get the borrowed time user and camp him instead of tunneling the unhooked survivor.
It seems to me you are just salty and throwing excuses.
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@alivebydeadight said:
@HuN7r3sS said:
I'm pretty tolerant, I complain, then I learn, then I adapt. That's basically the system to followIMPROVISE, ADAPT, OVERCOME
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@Arsoul said:
@Khalednazari said:
Arsoul said:@Khalednazari said:
Looks like this :
This screenshot has 2 completed gens, so its possible a hatch escape by using a key
For the hatch to spawn with 4 alive survivors, 5 generators needs to be completed.
Theres a Trophy/Achievement for all 4 survivors to escape through the hatch.
THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTETHE Hatch will spawn when 2 gens have been completed. But it is closed, a key will open it for one minute.
A quick google search would have told you thisHe is talking with facts, you are talking with guessings and assumings.
Sometimes I do that too, I don't know where we get that courage though.
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I don't think it is broken.
It is the same issue with huntress hatchets. Latency+ P2P connection.
It kinda feels like it is broken but the slow vault animations and hatchets themselves are not that problematic. If we got dedicated servers, the problem would be solved. -
@Killmaster said:
It has been a while since we had a licensed chapter, a surprise dlc drop for a killer like Leatherface would be awesome.
Wow they could actually do that, for next chapter we might see a licensed killer. It would be a good advertisement for them.
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@Boss said:
For every change i don't like, there's literally hundreds that i either do like or just accept.
I mostly don't talk about them because nobody ever tells me how great i am for doing my job well.
It's not a case of "If you don't, i won't either", it's moreso that i'm just used to it, and personally don't think there's anything wrong with not congratulating someone for doing their job properly.The problem isn't you don't congratulate the devs.
The changes that you approve is not approved by someone else. For example, I fully supported pallet vacuum changes, exhaustion changes, main building changes etc. Many killers on this forum also supported these changes. I also support new borrowed time, lockers and bloodlust nerf. Many forum killers didn't approve it or don't approve it.
So from their point of view, there is always complaints and no satisfaction. Remember the exhaustion changes, they got review bombed. -
@alivebydeadight said:
maybe it could be them releasing the new chapter release date, surprise buff to a killer, surprise nerf to a perk, and a surprise patchI don't think so. It is a good chance for them to advertise their game to a larger group. I don't think they will talk about specific changes or perks that only DbD players can understand.
I have no idea what their announcement will be though.
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Definitely true.
They are reluctant to give any buff to any killer but a killer like nurse exists.
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Borrowed time is fine. Don't camp, the problem is solved and hopefully, they will not change it.
They think that 115% ms is too much for this killer yet a killer like nurse exists.
I agree with you though. Everybody complains about everything and they always get overreaction from both survivors and killers. The community needs to grow up.
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It is clear that the devs judge the game by the way they play it. It might be too difficult for them to deal with this killer but the legion is quite manageable.
There were discussions about which killer was the worst killer in the game. Some people would say Freddy, some would say Leatherface, and others would say the Pig but after his release, this killer will be officially the worst killer because they refuse to listen to anybody.
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I am not even sure they will say SoonTM after what happened with spirit release.