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@Maelstrom10 said:
i did say, you'd be able to reach them as killer from both sides. think of it as a vault space, but you can only crouch under it, pick them up from either side so they can't just sit in the middle of itSo you cant turn directions while crouching? Otherwise the killer wil never be able to get you.
Then you are describing the mechanic of vaulting a pallet with the difference that the killer cant break the pallet. I dont think I need to explain why this is absolutely broken, do I?
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You have to understand that the "fun" is fun from the survivors perspective (even if legion isnt really fun for both sides) and DS can be "fun" for survivors
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Wouldn't be the best idea to publish such stats, at lead from bhvr perspective....
Everybody playing the game knows how bad the dcING situation really is -
Even if fogstreamers use and promote it, technically it's not allowed and should get you permabanned
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Can't tell since I've only played one game so far but on the other hand I wouldn't be surprised at all
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A camper doesn't have problems since he will do what you described, he smacks the unhooked before the unhook, let's him waste the speediest and gets another hit after the unhook (assuming no coordinated bodyblocking)Vietfox said:Few times i've had to deal with BT since i never camp.
If they hookswarm then i kill the prick rescuer and let go the one who was at the hook, simple.
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It makes me sad
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Just BHVR things...
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@Poweas said:
Yes it's far too loud. I can't hear a Huntress winding up a hatchet or a leatherface using his chainsaw (50% of the time for them though but it's still bad)Really? Maybe huntress is playable now
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@Dreamnomad said:
I play on the PS4 so a simple solution would be to map using abilities/items to the L2 key so there is no confusion.What actions are reserved for the L2 key?
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If you dont start smashing the button several meters before the actual pallet/vault, then you are completely fine.
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@Nightshade said:
Insidious: While Insidious is active, Survivors within 4/6/8 meters auras are revealed. This modest aura read aids in the purpose of getting the drop on Survivors should a killer choose to hide behind walls or around corners they suspect survivors will be. (EDIT): also for balancing purposes, Insidious cannot be activated within 24 meters of a hooked survivor.Unrelenting: recuperate from missed attacks by 20/30/40% and gain 30/40/50% more Bloodpoints for actions in the Brutality category.
Surveillance: Survivors who fail skill checks outside your terror radius have their aura revealed for 3/4/5 seconds. This includes failure on generators, healing, snapping out of it, jigsaw boxes, etc.
Within 8 meters you see the survivor already, so that aura is completely irrelevant (and bad design if you ask me, the game needs less auras in general). And insidious only purpose is for camping at the hook btw
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@DarkGGhost said:
@Larcz said:
Nah better add another dlc and fix game with more perks for what fix broken mechanic in game.I hope you say that ironically because this don't work good with the hex perks
Its sad but its the truth.
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@Might_Oakk said:
They tried making it harder to pip but everyone spazzed. In a proper ranking system a player of average skill would reach rank 10 with a standard bell curve.This community feels entitled to be rank 1 and if they aren't its the systems fault.
The current system gives players their participatation trophy.
Its the devs fault catreing to the entitled players..... just as usual
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
The rank system is ridiculous. I've tried DEPIPPING myself and still double pipped.Yes its a joke, I recommend going afk with freddy
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@Dead_by_David said:
Bit unsure of this and I do not want to break the rules.If I see a survivor in a corner and I trap them there, hitting them twice with no chance of escape (not holding them hostage there) or as a survivor blocking the killer from the hook.
Just want a clear understanding of what is cheating/holding the game hostage and will get me banned. (I appreciate that people have opinions on what people should be banned for but I just want to know what is an actual offence for now :chuffed: )
Both is perfectly acceptable (even though the first one is impossible since the survivor can walk through you after one hit)
The only bannable bodyblocking is if you litrally force someone to be afk for several minutes
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@akbays35 said:
she reminds me of prebuff wraith in how easy she is to be bullied. I remember Marth doing a controller challenge and even he had problems playing her.Yeah console aim sucks....
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@alivebydeadight said:
@bestbeast said:
PS4there is your answer, ps4 players are suffering fps drops due to the update
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@Delfador said:
In the first game, I have been face camped by a leatherface and honestly I don't know what I have done.Then, a nurse camped the ######### out of one person ant the other 3 genrushed her. All 3 of us escaped, the guy that was getting camped got 1.5k points.
I think I am done with the game for today o_O
Do you still like the aura changes?
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@akbays35 said:
But I think Legion is ok and probably right where the devs wanted him to be at.He is where the devs wanted him to be, in the corner of shame where all unviable killers cry.
I dont agree with this design philosphy though
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@Vietfox said:
Master said:@Vietfox said:
Wolf74 said:
@Vietfox said: Maybe once i get a new pc. Editing videos with sharefactory is a pain and so limited. I miss my Vegas Pro. IF you are so good that you never face those missmatching odds, that we "lesser player" feel against us, I seriously wanna see how you do that. @Wolf74
Gens being done in less than 4 minutes? Never, maybe when i started to play as a killer in 2016, but not that i remember.
There are many ways to do well in this game, but my rules are simple:
* Get rid of the DS asap (if they use it at the beginning they will run with 3 perks for the rest of the match)
* Break the pallets asap (unless it's a short loop where i can mindgame easily)
* To know who i gotta chase and who to avoid.There are more, but i like to point these ones especially because it seems that many killers panic against DS users or refuse to break the pallets, meaning that they end up getting looped for X gens or worse, those pallets are still there at the end of the match.
Do i win all the time? Of course not, but i get really nice results thanks to the way i play.
Get rid of DS? You mean you eat the free escape and simply waste time? Sounds like a solid plan
Break pallets? Yeah just a shame that there are so many
Who to chase? You mean focusing the pleb survivor that doesnt know how to loop? Yeah well and what if all survivors have a brain and have played before?
@Master
Yeah i totally eat it if i have to. Most killers lose more time by trying to avoid it instead of just dealing with it.
The number of pallets is fine. They have reduced the number and now they are more spreaded (remember the old preschool?)
They all might be good but there's always someone who is worse than the others. And if there's the case where all of them are god tier survivors then just deal with it!
Seriously, accept the defeat. Do you really expect to win all the time?Of course they have reduced the number of godtier pallets, but that doesnt change the fact that there are still plenty of pallets to keep you occupied more than enough.
Just deal with it, ahhh now were talking. Glad that you accept that and thats exactly the reason why gentime needs to change. It cant be real that you only have a chance if the survivors are potatoes
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@Orion said:
Doesn't exist for Killers either. Sure, it's fun to vault windows and pallets, but what's the point if you never actually get anywhere?Just bad design.
Let him rest in peace already. Its better for everyone if we forget about him real fast, just like we did with clown -
So you believe that a full squad has 15% more power than a team full of solos?
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@Vietfox said:
Wolf74 said:@Vietfox said:
Maybe once i get a new pc. Editing videos with sharefactory is a pain and so limited. I miss my Vegas Pro.
IF you are so good that you never face those missmatching odds, that we "lesser player" feel against us, I seriously wanna see how you do that.
@Wolf74
Gens being done in less than 4 minutes? Never, maybe when i started to play as a killer in 2016, but not that i remember.
There are many ways to do well in this game, but my rules are simple:- Get rid of the DS asap (if they use it at the beginning they will run with 3 perks for the rest of the match)
- Break the pallets asap (unless it's a short loop where i can mindgame easily)
- To know who i gotta chase and who to avoid.
There are more, but i like to point these ones especially because it seems that many killers panic against DS users or refuse to break the pallets, meaning that they end up getting looped for X gens or worse, those pallets are still there at the end of the match.
Do i win all the time? Of course not, but i get really nice results thanks to the way i play.
Get rid of DS? You mean you eat the free escape and simply waste time? Sounds like a solid plan
Break pallets? Yeah just a shame that there are so many
Who to chase? You mean focusing the pleb survivor that doesnt know how to loop? Yeah well and what if all survivors have a brain and have played before? -
@Entità said:
@Master I'm not speaking about restoring the old graphic engine or other difficult things. I simply ask that the files stored in their servers are taken from dusty hard disks and made available to anyone who wants to enjoy them, without costs or additional work, but published as they are: copy and paste, nothing less, nothing more.But those old files might not be compatible with the current game anymore, thats what im talking about.
Imagine putting an old floppy disk into a modern laptop (which doesnt even have a CD drive anymore)Also there is a lot more behind that since maps are actually created "procedurally" and the alogirthms have changed a lot
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@powerbats said:
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@powerbats said:
@Tsulan said:
I expect this change to backfire. But maybe I'm wrong. I was wrong about survivors sabotaging. No one does this, despite it being incredibly powerful.
I've had 1 match with someone saboing hooks or it was the new perk but generally saboing is only done during dailies. Well that and the the killer is most likely going to camp you and then afterwards apologize when they realize it was a sabo daily.
There is a difference whether you sabo a random hook on the other side of the map of a hook the killer is
trynig to hook his victim. AFter you denied me a hook this way, I will assume you will do so with every other hook and you can enjoy a nice slugging round
I can understand that but there's been times I've been saboing a hook and a tier I Myers brings someone around a corner and to the hook I'm saboing for my daily.
Sure, that might happen once every 2 billion games.
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@Vietfox said:
Master said:@Vietfox said:
Master said:
the survivors can finish all gens in a bit less than 110 seconds (assuming only good, no perfect skillchecks, no toolboxes) Wolf74 said: All spread out. 3 work while 1 is chased. 3 gens can get done in 80 secs max. So there are 2 gens left and even if the killer manages to keep 2 survivor busy, the other gens can get done in another 80 seconds. That's just 160 seconds for ALL gens to get done. so we are well under 3 minute games and maybe 2 or 3 hooks for the killer while the survivor only have the gates left to do. So good survivor can finish the match in 4 minutes. That's insane. @Wolf74 @Master
Don't forget that killer has to be blind and deaf to allow survivors to finish all gens in so little time.
We are talking only about the objective times and you cant deny that there is a big gap between the killers/survivors objective time. It takes 2 minutes until a single survivor dies on hook, but it doesnt even take 2 minutes to complete all gens. Sure, the killer will patrol and force one survivor out of the gen game, but dont forget that the killer has to go through endless looping until he actually gets a hooked (+second chances)
@Master
If it took less than 2 minutes to die on the hook would make camping way more rewarding, so it's fine.I think 2 minutes to die on hook is totally fine, but the genspeeds are just way to fast
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Since the game has went thruogh a lot of changes (engine for example), it would require a lot of work to bring the old versions of the map (if they saved them at all) up to a playable version.
All this effort for an unbalanced experienced in kyf? Well I doubt that BHVR will do that
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@powerbats said:
@Tsulan said:
I expect this change to backfire. But maybe I'm wrong. I was wrong about survivors sabotaging. No one does this, despite it being incredibly powerful.
I've had 1 match with someone saboing hooks or it was the new perk but generally saboing is only done during dailies. Well that and the the killer is most likely going to camp you and then afterwards apologize when they realize it was a sabo daily.
There is a difference whether you sabo a random hook on the other side of the map of a hook the killer is
trynig to hook his victim. AFter you denied me a hook this way, I will assume you will do so with every other hook and you can enjoy a nice slugging round -
@alivebydeadight said:
Is this a joke, because they are skill based indeedNot really sadly, the mechanics are kinda dull
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@Mr_Myers said:
redsopine01 said:Tried him put all game had a msg loop me about I circles doing nothing apart form one gen I know of at the end but i proboly played bad
Even though they're a bad killer, the playstyle they have is kind of weird in that if you try and focus one person with frenzy you kind of [BAD WORD] yourself over. Tag as many people as possible with Frenzy while breaking chase. This lets the deep wounds bar go down so when you find them again it'll be easier
The killers power contradicts the nature of DBD. To be efficient you need to remove one survivors ASAP, this will basically half the survivors working on gens (assuming you manage to hook someone within reasonable time)
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@Vietfox said:
Master said:the survivors can finish all gens in a bit less than 110 seconds (assuming only good, no perfect skillchecks, no toolboxes)
Wolf74 said:All spread out. 3 work while 1 is chased. 3 gens can get done in 80 secs max.
So there are 2 gens left and even if the killer manages to keep 2 survivor busy, the other gens can get done in another 80 seconds.
That's just 160 seconds for ALL gens to get done.
so we are well under 3 minute games and maybe 2 or 3 hooks for the killer while the survivor only have the gates left to do.
So good survivor can finish the match in 4 minutes.
That's insane.
@Wolf74 @Master
Don't forget that killer has to be blind and deaf to allow survivors to finish all gens in so little time.We are talking only about the objective times and you cant deny that there is a big gap between the killers/survivors objective time. It takes 2 minutes until a single survivor dies on hook, but it doesnt even take 2 minutes to complete all gens. Sure, the killer will patrol and force one survivor out of the gen game, but dont forget that the killer has to go through endless looping until he actually gets a hooked (+second chances)
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Optimization coming soon.... hehe
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@TheKillerNun said:
I was playing with three other survivors and the one survivor in the lobby were friends with the killer and they worked together through out the whole match killed the three of us then farmed off one another for points. I feel this deserves a ban however the ban system is not in effect so they get away with itI am pretty confident that there will be a bann system on console next decade
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@Blaque_magik87 said:
Ok. I could get on here and complain about the MYRIAD of REAL issues with this game, i wont, first off i am survivor main, matter of fact, i have maybe played 3 games as killer, (i have a fundamental problem with the killer mindset) i am devotion rank 2 so i have played A great deal of DBD. That being said i have a real problem with how close the hooks are, tonight my gf and i were playing, gasheavan i believe it was (almost all maps have this problem) when she was downed and hooked for the last time, i was also down right next to her, so obviously i crawled into the far corner in hopes that he would have to carry me further and id have chance to wiggle free, knowing the hook she died on was down, he proceeds to pick me up walk past said hook and about 20 meters away was another hook, whats the point of wiggling and breaking my sticks to wiggle if there are hooks 20 meters apart... not to mention there are what 7 gens on each map, and about 10 hooks or more on the bigger maps... its kind of ridiculous... im just really tired of the bullcrap with tjis game all around, devs will lose me when this year is up. Much better less infuruating games to come, HOW DARE YOU PUT $99 WORTH OF Auric cells in the store when your game is really half ass and lacking real depth and balance. Chime inI ask you one question.
Do you like bleeding out on the floor, crawling around like a fish on land waiting for your misery to end?
Also, a devotion 2 player with 3 games played as killer.... classic
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@Redplanet said:
@lasombra1979 said:
Before I offer opinions to your suggestions, I would like to inquiry about what rank you have progressed to playing killer. The reason I ask is playing killer at the lower ranks is much different than games against more experienced killers. The same I would like to ask of what rank you have made it to as survivor.Good point. I've run killer and survivor both at primarily rank 10-11.
EDIT: No sorry, forgot not shared ranks. Survivor 10-11 / Killer 13-14.
Explains a lot
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@JanTheMan said:
Hag:
Trap set time 5 seconds to 2
Trap teleport distance 32 to 40
= Top tier killerStill not even close to nurses and thus not top tier
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@LCGaster said:
So, I was playing on Xbox the other day and went against a Doctor, it was going fine but then I noticed something. When survivors screamed I couldn't see the bubbles indicating where they were. Is this intentional or a bug?Thats a bug for ages now. But its a killer problem. so ya know......
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@RSB said:
@SmokePotion said:
@RSB said:
Not like I was doing it with Wraith, but survivors tend to hold the game hostage when you AFK, often making it like 30-40 minutes matches.I can see that. probably sitting in the TR for free Bold points.
@Master said:
@RSB said:
Not like I was doing it with Wraith, but survivors tend to hold the game hostage when you AFK, often making it like 30-40 minutes matches.Play freddy, he is the only killer they cant bully (the irony though....)
No, they just hide/stay in the match for 30-40 minutes, even if they haven't found me, they just don't want the match to end.
Thats only the case if you try to find them and they can bully you.
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@florke said:
Hiya.I'm from Germany, Central Europe. Currently rank 2 killer, when I try to play as survivor, I get a lobby instantly. However recently, it's been so bad that it takes me literally 30-45 minutes to get a single instance of survivors joining my lobby when I try to play killer.
That's just no fun experience, and given the fact that the devs mentioned they'd roll out a new matchmaking system (which I don't think is in place just yet), it's still extremely bothersome and just ruins the experience for me.
Is there anything I can do and does anyone else experience this?
There have been multiple complains alredy.
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@RSB said:
Not like I was doing it with Wraith, but survivors tend to hold the game hostage when you AFK, often making it like 30-40 minutes matches.Play freddy, he is the only killer they cant bully (the irony though....)
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@SmokePotion said:
So, I'm trying not to end up rank 1 again. At least not for a while. And I can play killers I'm bad with to lose rank sure. But let's be honest.That's not really fun is it?
Getting your brown button pushed for ten minutes, over and over. Not my idea of fun.So what do I need to do to depip with killers i'm good with?
What i'm asking is the emblem thresholds for depip, black pip, and 1 pip. So I can try to keep a running tally of my points in a game, and "keep them low"
In case you want to know why I don't want to rank up. It's simple. I'm not a towel, I don't need that much sweat in my life.
The devs made ranking up too easy. If you wanan depip, you cant play normally anymore.
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@PhantomMask20763 said:
@Master said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What do you plan to spend your double bps on? I'm planning on prestiging my Spirit because she has remained lvl 50 for FAR too long. I'd like to Prestige Legion as well but only once since I love Susie especially with Joes mask
. Freddy and Pig are my only p3 killers so far and I'd really like to get someone else prestiged even if it's just once. Clown will forever remain at lvl 50 tho. Santa Clown is coming and that'll forever be my main cosmetic for him (Even if it'll seem outta place in the summer) Anyway what do you plan on spending your bps on?Probably prestiging spirit too since legion is......
I love Legion but they're so frustrating to play sometimes....
I just dont like being bullied and the feeling when the survivors dont even bother to heal because you are such a joke.... well thats not why I play killer
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I would have prefered a gen rework too, but that wuold probably require some (too much?) effort
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@PhantomMask20763 said:
What do you plan to spend your double bps on? I'm planning on prestiging my Spirit because she has remained lvl 50 for FAR too long. I'd like to Prestige Legion as well but only once since I love Susie especially with Joes mask. Freddy and Pig are my only p3 killers so far and I'd really like to get someone else prestiged even if it's just once. Clown will forever remain at lvl 50 tho. Santa Clown is coming and that'll forever be my main cosmetic for him (Even if it'll seem outta place in the summer) Anyway what do you plan on spending your bps on?Probably prestiging spirit too since legion is......
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First legion, now this..... sigh
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Seems like another 10 days break of DBD, then we will see whether im in the mood for double BP
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@Orion said:
@Janick I had an idea that could very well solve the majority of frustrations from both sides. It would require hard work from the devs, but I truly believe that if the game is to be truly fixed for both sides, it needs more than band-aid solutions like Hex: Ruin. The game needs to become more complex so that it can be properly balanced.This idea would:
- Revamp the Survivor gameplay to make it less boring.
- Put SWF closer to solo players.
- Make the solo players' success almost completely independent of their team's ability, thus eliminating the need for the hatch.
- Make Killer less frustrating.
- Eliminate the so-called "death efficiency problem"/snowball effect.
- Eliminate genrush.
The idea is simple: give each Survivor something different to do during the trial. Let me explain:
- Each Survivor would have a unique set of goals they'd need to complete in order to escape. This could replace generators entirely or add to them.
- Survivors who successfully completed all their goals would be able to unlock the exit gates and escape the trial.
- Survivors who did not complete all their goals would not be able to unlock the exit gates or escape. Even if they went to the exit, the Entity would block their path. This means that Survivors could no longer be carried by their team.
- Survivors could work together to accomplish their goals, or they could choose to focus on their own goals. Naturally, this carries the risk that those who have not completed their goals will not be able to escape if the Killer catches them working together, but it also means that they can complete their goals more quickly if they work together. However, Survivors would not be able to complete each others' objectives unless the person to whom the objectives belong is working on it at the same time.
- Auras of all the objectives would be visible to the Killer, color-coded to differentiate between what each Survivor has to do. For example, say there are 3 things each Survivor must do; this means there will be 3 objectives with the same color, another 3 objectives with a different color, and so on.
I know this seems like a lot of work, but I think it'd be worth it in the end. I know you guys (devs) read this, and I know you rarely reply, but if I could get some feedback, I'd appreciate it.
Sure, the new goals need to be more specific of course, but gernally I agree. I always fall asleep when playing survivor. The gen mechanic is an insult for the survivors intelligenec (but maybe they like it that way, I dont know)
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Its sad, especially since I played a non-viable killer and 4ked without a single gen done. Guess the survivors will never change^^
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@douggie123 said:
Ok I have just had a really good match as a killer no camping and no tunneling. Four survivors to begin with one rage quite in loading screen (fair enough). Three left I find all survivors hook each of them evenly after downing them all they start getting unhooked to the stage where they were all on last hook. No gens done. I go for one survivor who is last hook down them they rage quit. Hook and kill the other two I message the rage quitter from the match and ask them why there response "Three of us and five gens to repair". Is this community full of salt.The answer is yes.
