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@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
A lot of people like to argue that Overcharge is a very good perk.A lot of people also have the reflexes of a high school white girl on her phone.
The fact of the matter is, if you can consistently hit Great Skill Checks, then you can consistently hit Overcharge Skill Checks. They are not that hard, and if you think otherwise, it's a simple matter of git gud. Besides, the punishment for failing an Overcharge Skill Check isn't all that harsh. Between the original fail regression on top of the added Overcharge regression, the penalty can be erased in about 10 seconds or less—even without toolboxes, Perks, or another Survivor to help you.
Because of this, I propose a buff to Overcharge to make it actually usable at high ranks.
Overcharge
Overcharge a generator by performing the break generator action. An Overcharged generator regresses 30/40/50% faster and the next Survivor to initiate repairs on that generator will be faced with a moderately/considerably/tremendously difficult Skill Check. If they fail the Skill Check, the Killer is notified and the generator will continue to regress for 5/10/15 seconds, during which it cannot be repaired.While I like the idea in general, it would make the 3-gen situation really annoying^^
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@Orion said:
Until this is fixed, you might want to stop using Self-Care.
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hold down shift, is it really so hard?
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Dont give too much about words, especially when they come from certain BHVR employees.
The number of cote memes is ridiculous by now.And in the end, if DBD doesnt stay alive for 5 years, we can still play civilization
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@EntityDispleased said:
Adapt.Adapt?Turn up the light?
mhm yeah, just a shame that BHVR was too cheap to give us graphic options
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Just the new engine trolling us
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@The_Crusader said:
Master said:The problem is that trying to kobe is an intents mechanic and you can't punish a player for failing a mini game event.
However detecting and punishing dc's SHOULD be an easy thig and we shouldn't even have to talk about thatPartly agree.
Those people who disconnect as soon as they go down in a game? Yes they should be punished, they ruin thr game for others.
Those who disconnect because someone else disconnected and now its 3 people expected to do 5 gens? No, they shouldn't be forced to stay in a crappy game where the odds are stacked against them. They shouldn't be punished because someone else rage quit. Same applies when only 3 people load in. Nobody wants to play those games. You shouldn't depip for backing out.
Lag and being teleported is also another legit reason to D/C, but hopefully the dedicated servers fix that. Can't expect someone to stay in a game where they're getting teleported all over.
They could implement a system that would allow you to exit the game legitimately afetr a DC, a lot of games have that too (overwatch for example). But that would probably too much work and I would gladly take punishment for every DC if we can get rid of these crybaby ragequitters.
And it shouldnt be that hard to just walk up to the killer and suicide on the hook, as survivor you always have a way out
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I wanted to post a nice console meme but didnt find a nice one, take this instead
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@Youkari said:
Jup invinite matchtime the BIG ingame issue killers suffer: if he realizes he can't catch a survivor fast enough he has to make a choice; chasing him wasting time getting a down but giving other survivors time doing objectives... or give up and patrol gens to drive off other survivors in hope getting a easier chase but during that he's giving time to escaped survivor to go for a objective while he bought time for everyone else... Killers can prolong matches with gen defense but for what goal? None, that's why i look forward to "Last Year": that game is balanced in the core mechanics... DbD core mechanics are outdated now and need a rework... or at least a timelimit for survivors to give them pressure killers can utilize just with their presenceYou might be dissapointed.
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@Orion said:
Balance means that a single Survivor going up against the Killer should be crushed.
Balance means that a full Survivor team going up against the Killer should have a 50/50 chance of winning.
Balance means that a Survivor should never be able to put a Killer in a situation where giving up a chase is the most beneficial thing to do.
Balance means that Survivors aren't self-sustaining.
Balance means that Survivors should never feel safe.
Balance means that the game is balanced at the top.Balance means many things.
Balance means that a single Survivor going up against the Killer should be crushed. - not DBD
Balance means that a full Survivor team going up against the Killer should have a 50/50 chance of winning. - not DBD
Balance means that a Survivor should never be able to put a Killer in a situation where giving up a chase is the most beneficial thing to do. - not DBD
Balance means that Survivors aren't self-sustaining. - not DBD
Balance means that Survivors should never feel safe. - not DBD
Balance means that the game is balanced at the top. -not DBDWell according to this definition, DBD is the most unbalanced game
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@alefmts said:
For this game have a long life time, developers should focus on a chapter to take care the game's health doing a task force to put the majority part of the team on it like was made in Rainbow Six. Why release new content if the game doenst run well? What is the difficult of the managers and team leaders understand it?The difficulty in this is that you cant sell a "health DLC"
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@Orion said:
Too true, but that myth helps keep consoles in the market, despite their obvious inferiority.
I was so disgusted with the PS3 and its overheating issues that I never bought a console again after that
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@MegaWaffle said:
@brokedownpalace said:
Orion said:@brokedownpalace said:
Such a clown thing to say that gets said at least once anytime someone complains about camping. Form an original opinion.
Unoriginal complaints get unoriginal responses.
Congratulations. You probably thought that was pretty clever. Complaints don't need to be original. Do you think businesses that get the same complain many times simply say "Sorry, we only acknowledge original complaints?"
EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Bungie hell even Blizzard now!
@MegaWaffle said:
@brokedownpalace said:
Orion said:@brokedownpalace said:
Such a clown thing to say that gets said at least once anytime someone complains about camping. Form an original opinion.
Unoriginal complaints get unoriginal responses.
Congratulations. You probably thought that was pretty clever. Complaints don't need to be original. Do you think businesses that get the same complain many times simply say "Sorry, we only acknowledge original complaints?"
EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Bungie hell even Blizzard now!
A part of me died during that blizzcon.....
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@Unicorn said:
Fictionalname said:There's already an optimization patch it's called: Get a pc
Please stop posting ignorant things like this, not everyone is fortunate enough to pay $1000+ for a PC.
You dont need a battlestation to run DBD, its really not that expensive
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I dont get the balanced landing one
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There is a reason why every gamer prefers the steam platform, its the only one thats working properly.
I admit, the battlenet platform is decent too, but steam is still a lot better. -
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@donato said:
It's so easily counterable when it's on the obsession and it's very unlikely to activate when it's on a non-obsession player. How exactly is this perk too strong?it doesnt as long as NOED exists as it is
Every killer would trade NOED for ds immediately because NOED is a joke compared to DS
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@Morfedel said:
I've just recently started playing killer (full disclosure, not the greatest survivor either lol), and this one group of survivors kept body slamming into me and getting hit.I understand the idea is to slow me down from the hooks so the one on being carried can wiggle free, but all it did was get everyone injured and my victim still on the hook.
Now... I'm rank 20. I started playing killer like 3 days ago. Been playing survivor since halloween. These guys seemed to have the idea of the tactic down, but I never really understood it, since it just seems like you end up with a whole team of injured. Were they just screwing it up, or is there an actual viable tactic there?
The idea of this strategy is that this way, they can protect survivors you already hooked. If you have to 2-hook everyone before you get a kill, then you are losing the game due to gentime.
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Yes for some reaosn they gave an insane buff to BT.
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@RedTail said:
so i was in a game with some friends and i got saved while in the killer terror radius. my friend who saved me had borrowed time. he got downed while saving me so i wanted to take a hit in order to get the speed boost. the killer hit me and i got downed. i think borrowed time is bugged. please take a look at it devs. thanksDo you have Footage?
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@Morfedel said:
I've noticed that if I'm with other survivors and the killer find us, if I'm playing Jeff he almost always chases me first.Now, Jeff is a big guy. Makes me wonder, would killers unconsciously go after the bigger targets first, like Jeff and David, leaving the smaller ones to be less likely to be chased?
Curious.
Usually I remove survivors first from the game that annoy me (flashlight clickers etc). Also if you wear a bright skin, chances are high that I go for you
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@LegitAdventurer said:
So during beta testing everyone was screaming that Legion was OP. And now everyone is saying he's useless, worst killer, etc.I'm currently enjoying him a lot. I played like about 8 game's with him and 5 of them were all 4k matches. And I had at least 2 others i had at least 2 picks. And these were in top tier matches.
Now ive deranked because of the season ending, so I dont really count these current game's as a real test of skill. But not only is Legion really good, but he's a TON of fun to play. Especially if played properly. I've been watching streams of these "NUMBER 1 LEGION PLAYER IN THE WORLD I'M THE FLIPPING BEST LOOK AT HOW GREAT I AM" type streams, and they just play him like any other killer. And I'm like ??? You're playing him wrong lol. And then they just tunnel until they down a person. Which...is fine I guess? But when you're spamming your ability to catch and slap the same person over and over you're really not using Legion efficiently. You're supposed to be disruptive and all over the map.
So why don't YOU like Legion? What are your thoughts?
Uhm the community complained during beta that he is too weak, just like we are still complaining since the devs ignored us.
So why do I dislike legion? The answer is simple, I dont like killers that are not designed to kill but rather to waste everyones time. Even if versing him should result in a win with competent mates, the playstyle isnt fun at all if you ask me
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The problem is that trying to kobe is an intents mechanic and you can't punish a player for failing a mini game event.
However detecting and punishing dc's SHOULD be an easy thig and we shouldn't even have to talk about that -
Maybe because that's how you play the game optimally? Just like survivors continue repairing a single gen instead of switching to another one after they repaired to 66%towhead said:HellDescent said:Didn't read the whole thing, but if you're new, you're probably still in the lower ranks. 90% of the games you will get camped, since killers don't pip and just stay there. Rank up a bit, green or purple ranks are way better.
lmao. better for tunneling. i got to rank 3 and all i saw was tunneling. lotsa fun though, really. -
@Sandt21 said:
Wait, you think the game SHOULD be unfair for the killers???Oh, what I’d give for the LOL button right now...
Here you go
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@Stvn494 said:
hello everyone,
I came to this forum to say that facecamping ruins the game. It’s not fun, it doesn’t matter if you have decisive strike or not, and there is no way to counter it. I suggest that when you are being facecamped, you get sacrificed WAY slower. I think this is the only way, because banning obviously doesn’t work!!!
Sincerely, a guy who is pissesIt was fixed ages ago, it has been removed completely from teh game
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@th3beardedbaron said:
@Master said:
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Sth needs to be done about toxicity for sure, but tunneling and camping is not toxic. Actually guys like you prevent the system to work properly by spamming false reports
And yes the rank system is a poor joke
I'm curious if you feel as though survivors can't be toxic either. This topic is a revolving door. I say it's toxic to tunnel and camp, as a result every survivor runs with DS and purple flashlights. Technically, neither side is "illegal" but just garbage playing in my opinion. Survivors are penalized for grabbing other survivors off of hooks, to discourage farming, but does a killer receive the same penalty for re-hooking so quickly? If a survivor dc's, the killer gets awarded points for the dc. The survivors however are now at a disadvantage trying to finish 5 gens with 3 people. No points are given for a dc to a survivor. If a killer dc's, survivors lose their offering and are safe from a depiping but again the rank doesn't matter so the killer doesn't lose anything whereas depending on the offering, survivors could lose a couple thousand BP on an offering they never actually got to use.
The tunneling/camping problem could be solved the same as it is with a survivor standing still for too long. If a killer sits inside (say a 15 meter range) of a hooked survivor for too long, they get penalized. Similar to a survivor getting crows over their heads. If a survivor gets penalized for farming someone off a hook, the killer should receive a similar penalty for rehooking the same survivor within say 10 seconds of being taken off.
This still allows the killer to down the survivor if they choose, to go back to them after 10 seconds, but gives the survivors an opportunity to make a play to save them. If that is too much, then give the survivors the ability to reject someone who is clearly going to farm them, I'd rather stay on the hook for additional time if it means when I do get taken off, I'm a little bit safer.
Runing a flashlight isnt toxic, but if you click with it for example, thats toxic
If you say that its toxic to camp and tunnel, then thats your opinion but the devs stated pretty clear that those are legit strategies.And yes, DCing needs to be strictly punished, it completely ruins games.
We already have an emblem penalty for camping btw, just liek you suggested
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@Sn0wJob said:
Like, listen guys I love ya but when your player-base unanimously decides that a new killer is weak and you respond like this it just has no positive outcome.
Add to that the fact that other bugs are running rampant , I think a lot of us want you to slow down and contain chapter releases to twice a year.
If your whole plan is really to go the distance with a five year plan, you can not overburden yourselves with releasing new chapters every 3 months.Was that during the devstream?
Im not against it, they have to completley kill their own game first before the appropiate balance changes can happen
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@ItsTrixinity said:
We all know they implemented a little QoL addition where the survivor that just got unhooked won't take any damage for like a second or two to prevent the survivors from getting downed immediately after getting unhooked but it isn't shown on screen or really that useful as most of the times, killers' hit still register and back on hook the survivor goes.Disclaimer: This is not exactly a nerf towards killers. It has been implemented at the moment but not as effective and thus, some changes to this effect which is suggested below will at least make it more viable.
Balance Changes
- Immune Effect applies onto the unhooked survivor after being unhooked.
- Immune Effect lasts for 2.5 seconds. (Starts ticking after unhooked survivor lands on ground)
- Unhooked survivor takes no damage when Immune Effect is active.
UI
- New Immune Effect is shown on the right of the screen where other effects take place to better indicate immunity.
That's all for now.
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@thekiller490490 said:
With so many people reporting huge crashes on PS4, should I even risk my system and start DBD with 2.4?I mean.... are you that desperate to play legion? :sarcastic:
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@ShyN3ko said:
Why is it a totem perk?
Survivors get a notification, when the killer use this perk.
And they can destroy it.
So maybe it shouldnt be a Hex perk?
Or survivors shouldnt get a notification?
Or both?PS: Sry, for my bad english.
The english is good, the only bad thing is the perks design
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######### happens when there are no graphic settings
Pretty good job BHVR
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Yes it's difficult nowadays. Swf has ruined both, survivor and killer, for me sadly and I play a lot less than I used toAvariku said:I might go back to it after dedicated servers become a thing, but I can not [BAD WORD] stand playing survivor.
every round is 1 of 4 things.
1. Camper
2. Killer with ######### signal that puts you at a blatant disadvantage
3. DC leaving you at a blatant disadvantage.
4. Legitimately skilled killer that kicks the teams ass.
yes, there are the occasional rounds where I'm not matched up with potatoes or run into a killer who genuinely doesn't get sweaty for kills... but you mix all of this with the lack of bloodpoints and the current bugs in the game, one of which refuses to accumulate my co-op actions for the daily ritual and its just one frustration after the other.
and yea, I could go on to list the myriad of bugs that plague this game, but a quick browse through this forum and you'll see it laid out for you.
the devs have done a great job in many ways, I won't pretend that the game isn't good, but the cons weigh out the pros far too horribly.
seriously bhvr, you need to fix this game, as it is it just feels like a shameless money grab from your customers. -
Yes bugs and glitches....
Killer melee weapons don't have hitboxes, we have hitcones as the devs described in a recent stream
BP are independent of the emblem system
You are not rewarded for looping because it's the goal to lose the killer (which is rewarded)
Sth needs to be done about toxicity for sure, but tunneling and camping is not toxic. Actually guys like you prevent the system to work properly by spamming false reports
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@AshleyWB said:
Not my opinion but I'm gonna make it anyway.Omg Legion is 4 different people. That's like 12 killers plus another 4.
Dbd has over 1000 killers if you include variations in cosmetics. Each with a potential of 3600 different perk combinations, 18 different offerings and 16 different add ons per killer.
That's 135,000 different killers in dbd. And what that there's gonna be more wahhhhh.
This point hasn't been made for a while, what do you think about the ever increasing numbers of killers?
I dont trust this math
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Well the devs promised to buff freddy and technically (even though he got nerfed this patch too) he is not as weak compared to other killers than before
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the survivors can finish all gens in a bit less than 110 seconds (assuming only good, no perfect skillchecks, no toolboxes)
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Officially more than 30 hours? Show me the official medal of that
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@alivebydeadight said:
consume the yellow snowfixed it for you
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@Atralus said:
Just a quick idea. There should be some way to customize the basement per person so that when im playing killer i can show off my cool basement to survivors i hook down there.I like this idea
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de-optimization would fit better
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@Kemosabe69 said:
So this is a topic that I've always been curious about but have never seen a real direct answer, so hopefully somebody can clear the air for me. I think everyone is familiar with the whole basement stair scenario, where someone is rescued from the basement hooks with borrowed time, and the killer stands at the top of the stairs for a chunk of time until the effect wears off. This has been in the game for a very long time, and I've never heard any news about making any changes, but is this something that was intended by the devs? It seems a little broken to be able to hard counter a perk like that without any real mechanics. Is this something that is a reportable offense? I'm not trying to sound like a whiny survivor main, just hoping to get a clear answer about something that brings me much frustration.Bodyblocking to let the BT timer run off is definitely intended design.
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Well performance on PC isnt even that good.
Im nor surprised that this is the result when you play on a low performance machine -
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@ReneAensland said:
My guys plays pretty intense. He moves from survivor to survivor. The last thing you want as Legion is a Shroud that makes all players spawn separately. You want to herd them together.Just a pitty that the clever survivors will split automatically during their genrush^^
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@MisterCremaster said:
@Master said:
Camping is actually a really bad and weak strategy. Once you stand 2 minutes afk in front of the hook, all gens should be done and the other 3 survivors should have an easy escape.
IN reality however, the entitled survivors throw themselves at the hook and crying about "noob strats" afterwards, but if you are using your brain (apparemtöly you've played games long enough to make logical conclusions), then you see that its the survivors who make this a viable strategy.
Now we can ask ourselves why that is the case. My answer to this is sad, but the devs have catered to survivors for so long (look this dlc for example) that they have been never forced to adapt and refuse to do so if they can get "camping fixed" for example by crying enough.
Thats why there is so much negative input if you request a "camp fix"That is only the case in a SWF group though, or one where the hooked survivor just happens to have Kindred. A non-SWF group will almost ALWAYS spend too much time trying to figure out if the guy is being camped. And, for better or worse, most non-SWF groups don't want to just let some random guy die on the hook, so they do spend more time waiting to see if the killer will leave, or assume that the other survivor is doing generators. The hook gymnastics is not known to everyone, and a lot of players assume that it means "COME SAVE ME!"
A lot of issues with camping would be resolved if Kindred was removed as a perk and just part of the base kit. Would even the gap between solo and SWF. As the original OP appears to be running as a solo-queue survivor, camping is harder hit on him.
As a solo survivors I disagree, usually its very obvious when a killer camps.
And by the way, its usually the SWF groups that are too entitled to do gens and suicide for their mates.
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@Poweas said:
It isn't but I dont think it should be since it'd kinda kill legion.At this point you might aswell beat the dead horse, doesnt make too much of a difference
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@Unicorn said:
I feel like this community is never going to be satisified with any future killers as well. Happens everytime a Killer is released. I feel bad for BHVR.Well the devs themselves stated that not every killer is supposed to be viable against competent survivors.
Now they hammer anotrher one of these killers out and say taht we should stick to billy/nurse if we want to play "competitively"-Of course the communtiy (killer community) is not satisfied with this. I dont feel bad for BHVR and I hope that they notice this in their sells
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Survivors got what they asked for. I could have told you this before, but apparently they need to feel the pain after they shot themselves in the knee.