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I hate survivors that camp together with the killer. In such a case I usually suicide on hook.
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@ad19970 said:
@Tsulan said:
ReneAensland said:@Tsulan said:
Raccoon said:
Tsulan said: ReneAensland said: @Tsulan said: ReneAensland said:
@Tsulan said: ReneAensland said:
30 minutes ago. 2 minute video proving Face Camping exists. It's Toxic. And Baby killers DC just like DS users. faCe cAmpiNg wAs reMovEd doNt geT caUghT iTs thE suRvivOrs faUlt
Unhooked = no face camping. lol OooOoOOoooookay. Whatever you say buddy.
Want a dev stream where the devs explain what face camping was and how they removed it? lol No thanks, I don't want to be told what's Face Camping and what isn't by Rank 20 Devs. Thanks though. Oh really? What a surprise! You claim something, I disapprove, want to give you solid facts, and it's suddenly not interesting anymore. Yeah it's hard to face the truth after telling bullshit. His feelings and randomly capitalized letters were no match for you! I even searched the video and prepared everything to crush his dreams...
sigh
You're [BAD WORD] hilarious.
Reading this entire comment section is a breath of fresh air, but I'm guessing people like you have to be in the opposition even though a crap ton of people in this comment section agreed with the OP.
"I think you just got to be in the "out" group. Whoever's on top, whoever's in power, whoever's successful, you gotta be on the other side or you don't feel like the smartest guy in the room. All you are, my dear, is a contrarian."
This defines people like yourself.
You forgot the people that agreed with me.
You can call a dog a "cat" as often as you want. But it will still be a dog.
Why on gods earth are you two even discussing the definition of a word? Like what kind of time waste is that? Who cares what exactly facecamping has meant back then, and what OP means with facecamping and if he is using the wrong term. I think it's pretty obvious that with facecamping OP means a killer that is camping a hooked survivor, standing right by him and not leaving the hook. Who cares if this isn't actually facecamping? Especially since the removal of facecamping didn't change a lot anyways. Doesn't really have anything to do what the OP was getting at.
Are you joking?
Back in the days you were actually able to secure a kill via camping. Nowadays you cant bodyblock away from the hook while survivors can bodyblock you from the hooking prompt. ALSO, nowdays they got BT, unhook invulnerability, swivel hooks AND the faster unhook animation -
@No_Cluie_Louis said:
@ReneAensland said:
@Master said:
@ReneAensland said:
@Master said:
@ReneAensland said:
30 minutes ago. 2 minute video proving Face Camping exists. It's Toxic. And Baby killers DC just like DS users.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNUVH0vPYO8
faCe cAmpiNg wAs reMovEd
doNt geT caUghT
iTs thE suRvivOrs faUltYou clearly got off an unhook, so what are you trying to show with this video?
In a situation where I didn't have my Flashlight with me.....what do you think would have happened?
She would have been Face Camped to death.Face camp means that the killer bodyblocks you away from the unhook prompt.
If billy facecamped, I ask you how you managed to get an unhook without the unhook prompt?When a killer gets a hit you can go through him.
He got a hit on the hooked Nea and I managed to get the unhook.
There.Face Camping in todays world is exactly what this video proves it to be. NO ONE who is playing now knew ######### Face Camping was back then, so no one cares.
THIS is 2019's version of Face Camping.
@ReneAensland put it perfectly. Sure, just because face camping used to mean that, doesn't mean it can't be given a new meaning. Like seriously, people like @Master and @Tsulan , you're using that as your argument, when you know exactly what i mean, and are failing to give any argument against what i'm saying other than i used the wrong terminology.
Sure, I can give tunneling a new meaning too. Tunneling is now defined as a killer walking through a tunnel.
Voila
We already have terminology, its called hard-camping.
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@SmokePotion said:
I see your hotfix, very nice. One of the unvaultable windows on badham fixed. That's a very needed fix.Now, how about the hook in front of the house that traps the killer in it when they hook a survivor?
How about that stairwell to the boiler area of the school that catches killers when they run up it? (this one has been around since i started playing, and hasn't been fixed)
And since you are fixing maps... how about the fence section on Haddonfield you can't vault?
How about the snow's brightness covering scratch marks/ making them harder to see at the ski lodge?And how about people kneeling behind the killer and stopping the hook animation? Can this PLEASE be hotfixed too?
You confuse survivor related bugs with killer related bugs.
THere is a hook in haddonfield where the killer has been blocked since the dawn of ages, but the devs didnt bother fixing that.
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@Mushwin said:
Did he/she have a normal job? family? how did he/she become the entity? what is their back stroy like the killers and survivors have? did he/she have a loved one? what turned them evil?The entitiy was born devil
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@Entità said:
No comments... very strange: the forum is full of bizarre proposals on revolutionary mechanics, and I agree: I would just like a corner where the Community could try these changes to test their beauty and feasibility.
THe problem is that this would require so many changes from the code side that they will never do that (sadly).
Dont forget how the proceduarl generation works, if you mess with a few variables or allow weird ranges, then there will occur a lot of issues that needs to be adressed. Take for example the gens, the whole code will probably break if you tell it to generate with 8 instead of 7 gens -
@Ray_Penber said:
I got a warning over this comment for "name and shaming". It was also removed."If you happen to be playing with Silverlink10 on the ps4 now I will not save any of you once the exit gates are powered. I am absolutely tired of people leaving me behind after I have done most of the gens or have ran the killer around the entire game. So you want to screw me over then I will do the same. Thanks for making me salty and selfish."
Now since the devs haven't answered my question I decided to post this back in the forum so as to understand why this comment is bannable. First devs, Silverlink10 is my name on the PS4 not somone else's name in case you misread the comment. As for the shaming, people in this forum shame nonspecific people all the time. I read a comment just yesterday shaming people for using noed calling them noobs or sucky killers with no skill. Also people shame you for making the legion the way he is. It's nothing new. Now, if I do get banned for reposting this comment, please explain to me this. Am I getting banned for shaming myself or shaming nonspecific people like everyone does in these forums all the time?
For someone skippign through your text, it might have appeared as a name shaming issue.
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@TeambossFloze said:
@fcc2014 said:
@Negi said:
I don't know how people can say there aren't enough killers, I was getting INSTANT lobbies as solo survivor about a month ago (before, during, and even for a bit after the event). You don't lose THAT many killers out of nowhere, it has to be the matchmaking changes slowing things down.It could be people took a break after the previous event. We had those awesome bloodwebs and double blood points. People may have played other stuff they got after xmas.
Its a lobby + matchmaking issue for sure
Then explain how killers have insta queues.
If it was a lobby problem, then both sides would have to wait, but since only one side has to wait for the other to fill up...... -
Do you think killers are OP? => Survivor main
Do you think survivor are OP? => killer mainDO you think the game is balanced? => BHVR main
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@NoShinyPony said:
I can't imagine that the devs are not aware of this issue. If the reason for the queue time was a buggy matchmaking, don't you think they would have said something like "we know there's a bug, we are working on it" by now?
If it was buggy matchmaking, how is the killer side geting insta queues then?
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@CronaWins said:
I avoid Nurse and Billy every game and just DC. Games are just boring vs'ing the same 2 killers over and over again when there are 14 killers in total.Unfortunately, Billy and Nurse are way to high of tier and are unbalanced compared to every other killer, not to mention they are the easiest killers in game and take absolutely no skill to play.
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@brokedownpalace said:
HavelmomDaS1 said:
ToxicFengM1n said:wow, they really don't want to face a nurse, nurse is a fun killer they just want easy-wait is that a long life flashlight and insta-heal, wow they really dont want to face a nurse, but you should blur the names out
4x DS aswell, 3x adrenalin for genrush clutch and unbreakable to counter slugging. These guys definitely want to bully but they know they can't against a nurse
Using perks = bullying? Or are you just making assumptions and causing drama because they are SWF?
Are we playing the same game?
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@ReneAensland said:
@Master said:
@ReneAensland said:
@Master said:
@ReneAensland said:
30 minutes ago. 2 minute video proving Face Camping exists. It's Toxic. And Baby killers DC just like DS users.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNUVH0vPYO8
faCe cAmpiNg wAs reMovEd
doNt geT caUghT
iTs thE suRvivOrs faUltYou clearly got off an unhook, so what are you trying to show with this video?
In a situation where I didn't have my Flashlight with me.....what do you think would have happened?
She would have been Face Camped to death.Face camp means that the killer bodyblocks you away from the unhook prompt.
If billy facecamped, I ask you how you managed to get an unhook without the unhook prompt?When a killer gets a hit you can go through him.
He got a hit on the hooked Nea and I managed to get the unhook.
There.Face Camping in todays world is exactly what this video proves it to be. NO ONE who is playing now knew ######### Face Camping was back then, so no one cares.
THIS is 2019's version of Face Camping.
Do you sometimes read the comments you are responding to?
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@ReneAensland said:
@Master said:
@ReneAensland said:
30 minutes ago. 2 minute video proving Face Camping exists. It's Toxic. And Baby killers DC just like DS users.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNUVH0vPYO8
faCe cAmpiNg wAs reMovEd
doNt geT caUghT
iTs thE suRvivOrs faUltYou clearly got off an unhook, so what are you trying to show with this video?
In a situation where I didn't have my Flashlight with me.....what do you think would have happened?
She would have been Face Camped to death.Face camp means that the killer bodyblocks you away from the unhook prompt.
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@ReneAensland said:
30 minutes ago. 2 minute video proving Face Camping exists. It's Toxic. And Baby killers DC just like DS users.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNUVH0vPYO8
faCe cAmpiNg wAs reMovEd
doNt geT caUghT
iTs thE suRvivOrs faUltYou clearly got off an unhook, so what are you trying to show with this video?
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@HavelmomDaS1 said:
Cuz survivors can just suicide on hook and killer can go afk (and get some chasing points meanwhile if survivors farm).Imo the devs have two better options to combat the current "DC meta":
They need to realise WHY people DC in the first place and fix the issues
Give the players more motivation to keep trying in an unfun match (more rewards for example)
Punishing DC's with bans is just a workaround and probably doesn't even work cuz people DC legit with suiciding on hooks etc.
The sad part is when you realize that suiciding on hook is actually a step foward from out current DC situation.
And since suiciding on hook is actually part of intended gameplay, I dont think that BHVR will do anything about this
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@ToxicFengM1n said:
@Tsulan said:
Face camping doesn't exist anymore.
"Killer mains" should know that.It does, I faced a pig, leatherface, hillbilly, and trapper that did it in rank 6-5
Facecamping is when you move the killers hitbox into the hook hitbox so that survivors cant get a unhook prompt. It does indeed not exist anymore
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@akbays35 said:
@Delfador said:
The reason why different playstyles are not preferred is not because they are totally crap but the genrush meta is by far the best option.You can try to save someone spending 5 minutes saboing the hooks or you can finish the gens as soon as possible and give him his adrenaline. I think that the preferable choice is obvious here.
I think that with the recent buffs to sabo and the new hook distribution system, they plan to bring the sabo meta back but they will not succeed. The best option for survivors is to finish the gens as quickly as possible, even more important than the healing.
As long as they don't do anything about the genrush, there will be no different playstyles.
yeah but if they buff sabotage in a meaningful way where the team can utilize it outside of swf that would make it functional as well. > @Master said:
@akbays35 said:
I think the problem with this perk is that it requires team knowledge and teamplay to be effective or just godlike prediction of where the killer is heading. My suggestion is to have sabotaged hooks have their aura revealed for survivors so they can run towards there as a safety and utilize what their teammate is doing.What would be a compensation buff on the killers side?
having survivors do something outside of gen rushing? Killers still get a notification when survivors are sabotaging maybe a 2 second aura or something.
Offering an alternative to genrushing is not a buff, either it doesnt change the situation at all or it is a survivor buff, depending on the alternative.
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@thesuicidefox said:
Could be lag. I've had laggy survivors that seem to run crazy fast but it's really they are jumping frames.When they are lagging, then they are stuttering, but they are not moving faster than you in general.
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@Poweas said:
@ReneAensland said:
@Master said:
Sucks when no killer wants to play with you anymore, guess now you realize that you cant play the game with your own
Funny how you vote up your own comment.
And ######### are you talking about.These are queues you idiot.
I'm also bringing up factual evidence of a console issue that many players have and you want to come at me with th at smartass remark?Why don't you open your mouth for something more productive you troll.
Why are you insulting them? Obviously they were joking why are you being so triggered?
I am dead serious. When killers have insta queues and survivors have long queues, then the logical consequence is that there are not enough killers anymore. If you can explain that otherwise, Im curious
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@Might_Oakk said:
Game is janky asf on console. Doesn't retain players like pc. Needs to go free 2 play.They just need to implement cross platform matchmaking
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@Slayer said:
I wasnt even able to see whether i pipped or not and already got wall of text . Do you really prepare to drop the salt before game is over? HAHAHAHAHAHA !Pros have a text file with salt and then copy pasta out of it for faster salt generation
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@TreemanXD said:
So I just played a game as pig, I killed three of them (the fourth one got hatch) then he sends me hate mail basically telling me to kms and then says I was just salty cause I lost. I tried explaining to him that a 3k is still a win, but he kept going back to the you lost and then stopped responding. So is it true is a 3k a loss?If survivors are salty enough to send you hatemail, thats a win in my books
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Clearly they walked into the game with the intention to bully a killer if I look at their loadouts......
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@NurseMainBTW said:
I'm sorry, I just thought that it was hilarious since they all disconnected together at the first blink in the game.
Hilarious yeah, I hope you stockpiled a lot of addons to compensate for such games
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@Sinner said:
You guys aren't seeing the big picture. Considering how huge the DC problem got, there is clearly something wrong with the game, not with the players.My money is on the ranking system. Balance wise it seems okish. I'd just nerf nurse and billy.
Very rarerly it happens that I get good teammates at rank 1 vs a good killer and it ends up in a 1-2k fun game. Usually I die or get the hatch, cause of bad teammates.
Suggesting to add harsher bans is ridiculous at this stage. They'll have to ban like half the playerbase. What they need to do is fix the ranking system (make it how you do in a chase count like 80% towards pip), rank hacking and boosting and after that see what balance issues they have.
People would DC in any other competitive game too if things were like in DBD.
And no, this has nothing to do with the ranking or matchmakign system which are both broken AF.
Its simply the fact that there is NO punishment for DCing, you can literally do it 20 times a day and still walk away if you just play enough other games -
EAC = Easily Applied Cheat
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@ReneAensland said:
@Master said:
@ReneAensland said:
@Master said:
Sucks when no killer wants to play with you anymore, guess now you realize that you cant play the game with your ownFunny how you vote up your own comment.
And ######### are you talking about.These are queues you idiot.
I'm also bringing up factual evidence of a console issue that many players have and you want to come at me with th at smartass remark?Why don't you open your mouth for something more productive you troll.
Yes its a factual evidence that there are not enough killers on console and thus survivors experience high queue time.
What else can I say about this? Maybe be nice to the other side?
Oh and btw, try upvoting your own comment, you idiot
I'm a killer main.
And no, I'm not desperate for upvotes.
And I don't understand the high headed-ness, you were being a smartass.Well then just play killer if you are a killer main anyway.
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I added a speedhacking survivor that speedhacked twice against me in early 2017. He still plays DBD from time to time
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@ReneAensland said:
@Master said:
Sucks when no killer wants to play with you anymore, guess now you realize that you cant play the game with your ownFunny how you vote up your own comment.
And ######### are you talking about.These are queues you idiot.
I'm also bringing up factual evidence of a console issue that many players have and you want to come at me with th at smartass remark?Why don't you open your mouth for something more productive you troll.
Yes its a factual evidence that there are not enough killers on console and thus survivors experience high queue time.
What else can I say about this? Maybe be nice to the other side?
Oh and btw, try upvoting your own comment, you idiot
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Sucks when no killer wants to play with you anymore, guess now you realize that you cant play the game with your own
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@DevalManson said:
I purely think they need to make penalties for killers that tunnel and camp. Like if a killer got someone down once then goes for them again to soon they get slow down when going for them unless they go for someone else then back to them again. And sitting by the hooked survivor should make them have like a fall asleep cool down. Like they cannot move cause they fell asleep for like 5 sec, each time they stay near the hooked survivor they get a sec added on. It would even that bull ######### out.or they can just lower the bloodpoints for doing tunneling or camping. I mean they added that survivors cannot just keep vaultung through the same window and they changed the way people cannot keep running around things they added more ######### so people cannot run away as easy. They think theres to much for survivors but people survive only 5% of the time out of 100% so this game is not balanced for anyone. Just the killers get everything cause they are put off as a victim of being taken advantage of. But survivors wouldn't be doing that trolling ######### if killers didn't tunnel or camp. So. It needs to be fixed. Tunneling and camping is a form of taking the game hostage. And it makes nothing fun for anyone except the killer which is wrong cause everyone should have fun. Also from many experiences killers and survivors are very picky choosy over characters. Like female characters get more love then males. The killers go for jeff or bill or tapp or adam 99% of the time if they come into view near a female character. Ik people will be like nah thats not it but from my own experiences and most of my friends as well its happened. I just wish they would make the game fair for everyone not just the killers.
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@Lillika said:
I'm currently Killer in a match where there is 1 survivor left. I can't find him anywhere and I left the escape hatch free. What do I do>Record and report
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@PureHostility said:
@Master said:
Well you cant hear slugged survivors since the last patchI leave survivors on the floor bleeding out quite regularly too,
You can of course hear them, there isn't any issues since recent patch regarding slugged survs.
If you meant Bill...of course, since his release, his dying state moans are the least audible of all survivors (Ace's injured sounds are the most quiet ones for an example, often not needing IW).Good that you can hear them. Sound is pretty broken on my client....
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Well you cant hear slugged survivors since the last patch
I leave survivors on the floor bleeding out quite regularly too,
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@edogast said:
very nice : )That is because you tbagg in front of him and give him chase points
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@NoReward said:
It happens too often. I think I play so good, so smooth, last generator pops... Then I see the killer idling somewhere. Ups.Or the killer and some survivors team up in the end, hit/heal, for some bloodpoints?
What’s up with that?
-no fun at all-Deranking and shard farming.
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@BACKSTABBER said:
When you die and you are the last surv looking for the hatch, a fast zoom for few secs goes where the hatch wasagree?
Nice to have, but BHVR has to fix a lot of major problems before even thinkign about stuff like this
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@AntiJelly said:
@Master said:
@AntiJelly said:
@Master said:
@AntiJelly said:
@Master said:
@AntiJelly said:
@Master said:
@AntiJelly said:
@Master said:
There will never be two versions of the same game they have to develop, you can be sure of thatHow can you be so sure?
Because then they need to develop two version of the same game? Its a buisness afterall....
It isn't that difficult. They have working versions for each platform, it's not one singular entity that they update. For something like this, they should allow leniency due to different input devices.
No, there are no differences between the PC and the console version.
Yes there are. They have, multiple times, have had different platforms at different states.
Name them
Every update before 2.0.0 they've updated every platform at different dates. This 100% indicates that there are different live builds for each platform.
Yeah sometimes the builds have shipped on different days, but that doesnt change the builds were the same.
Well, to tie back to my original point, since there technically are different versions of the game (Without actually differing) it is entirely possible to have different hitboxes and hurtboxes on consoles. I'm not sure why you think there aren't, but I don't want to drive this off topic any more.
You just said it yourself, there is NO DIFFERENCE. I dont know what else I have to say
Sure its possible to have different versions of the game, but that would mean developing 2 builds and as I said, its a business.....
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Clown is quite bad, but not as bad as trapper and freddy
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@AntiJelly said:
@Master said:
@AntiJelly said:
@Master said:
@AntiJelly said:
@Master said:
@AntiJelly said:
@Master said:
There will never be two versions of the same game they have to develop, you can be sure of thatHow can you be so sure?
Because then they need to develop two version of the same game? Its a buisness afterall....
It isn't that difficult. They have working versions for each platform, it's not one singular entity that they update. For something like this, they should allow leniency due to different input devices.
No, there are no differences between the PC and the console version.
Yes there are. They have, multiple times, have had different platforms at different states.
Name them
Every update before 2.0.0 they've updated every platform at different dates. This 100% indicates that there are different live builds for each platform.
Yeah sometimes the builds have shipped on different days, but that doesnt change the builds were the same.
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@AntiJelly said:
@Master said:
@AntiJelly said:
@Master said:
@AntiJelly said:
@Master said:
There will never be two versions of the same game they have to develop, you can be sure of thatHow can you be so sure?
Because then they need to develop two version of the same game? Its a buisness afterall....
It isn't that difficult. They have working versions for each platform, it's not one singular entity that they update. For something like this, they should allow leniency due to different input devices.
No, there are no differences between the PC and the console version.
Yes there are. They have, multiple times, have had different platforms at different states.
Name them
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@NurseMainBTW said:
... Oh. Guess something is really going on after this patch.Matchmaking has always been horrible, that has been the case years ago already
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@AntiJelly said:
@Master said:
@AntiJelly said:
@Master said:
There will never be two versions of the same game they have to develop, you can be sure of thatHow can you be so sure?
Because then they need to develop two version of the same game? Its a buisness afterall....
It isn't that difficult. They have working versions for each platform, it's not one singular entity that they update. For something like this, they should allow leniency due to different input devices.
No, there are no differences between the PC and the console version.
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@AntiJelly said:
@Master said:
There will never be two versions of the same game they have to develop, you can be sure of thatHow can you be so sure?
Because then they need to develop two version of the same game? Its a buisness afterall....
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@ToxicFengM1n said:
This currently is extremely painful, it takes so long to find matches on console (dont even mention pc right now), I am okay with it but it gets kinda, aggravatingAs survivor or as killer?
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There will never be two versions of the same game they have to develop, you can be sure of that