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@Gamzello said:
Many people can agree that rank is pretty easy to rank up (or down.)Do you feel as if ranking should take a lot longer to rank up? Why or why not? Just wanted to hear some opinions from both sides (survivors and killers)
It should take longer and it should be harder to rank up.
Why?
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@ToxicFengM1n said:
breaths in can you guys please, give us bill on console, I know about valve and things, but please, find a way to get bill on console, he was a fav on l4d2There is a way how you can play bill....... get a PC
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@AgentTexes said:
They're laggy because they're 7 thousand miles away from you.I've played against killers in china before and even watched their streams and quite a few have better internet than some people in the US.
No offense, but that's kind of a low bar. The US has what is probably the worst Internet in the developed world.
as an Australian i can tell you that that statement is incorrect
I think it depend on the plan. When you paid more, you will have better internet service.
Maybe you can try 100 Mbps plan or higher. Even 1000Mbps is affordable nowadays.australian internet is some of the worst in the world, 1000Mbps is a pipe dream and even 100Mbps is difficult to get
Up or downs dont matter. When it comes to gaming, then the only thing that matters is latency
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
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@akbays35 said:
I find this perplexing on both a design and balance state. Trapper already has counterplay against his power with both sabotage, small game, and just looking down and disabling traps. Why does he step in his traps? Why does he have this in his design?THere are some killers that are hated by BHVR with a passion..... =(
Like who?
Trapper and freddy would be the prime examples here.
Doc has received several nerfs lately too, might aswell add him to the list^^ -
@akbays35 said:
I find this perplexing on both a design and balance state. Trapper already has counterplay against his power with both sabotage, small game, and just looking down and disabling traps. Why does he step in his traps? Why does he have this in his design?THere are some killers that are hated by BHVR with a passion..... =(
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@Star99er said:
Make it to where Survivors don’t get notified that the killer has the perk until the killer gets their 1st token for it. Instead of just getting notified after survivors hits their first skill check on a gen.There doesnt need to be a notification AT ALL.
Why is everything handed to you in this game? Why not make them use their own brain and notice that skillchecks appear slightly earlier than they use to.
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@TheBretzel said:
First off all, Hello (1rst post), It's nice to use theses new forums and I hope that they will be very active over time !With that said, I was wondering what everyone would like to see on a personal stat screen that you can see in-game, in the future. I am aware it might take a while until we have it, but giving some ideas is a nice start.
So, what would you like to see on a personnal stat screen?
I know for my part I'd like to see theses for huntress :
-% hatchets hit
-longest hit
-hatchets used/match (and possibly per MAP)Would be nice, but I would prefer if the devs actually worked on the real problems of the game before even considering stuff like this
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@Warlock_2020 said:
I fear many don't understand what dedicated servers are going to do to the killer community. Right now, we host games and the game is based on our internet speed. So we may notice a few people "skipping" about due to lag, but the survivors are being yanked all over the field. When dedicated servers kick in, that won't work anymore. We will suffer our own lag, but the survivors won't as long as their connection is good.I played 2 survivor games with my wife last night. The Trapper (I love facing my own killer!) was on a really bad net speed. I ran from the gas station to the bus, then got yanked back to the gas station where I was right next to the killer. #########! Then I start working a gen and BAM, I'm back by the killer shack where I left from 10 seconds ago. It was impossible to try to loop this killer due to lag. I kept getting yanked all over. He was a good player, but his lag made the game impossible. We talked afterwards (in a polite conversation, no toxicity) and he stated that his internet is not very good. This guy is going to HATE dedicated servers. His lag will be too bad to even consider playing killer.
Keep that in mind people. Get your net speeds worked out before dedicated servers. It will no longer work in your favor, it will be paralyzing as killers.
Just imagine how its gonna be when you cant hit a 360ing survivor in real-time on your own "server machine" anymore, but instead you have to deal with latency. (this will be noticeable even with perfect internet)
I dont even wanna think about what its going to do to huntress.....
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@ModernFable said:
I assume it’s a bug.Insidious shouldn’t work with any power being actively used.
The perk descriptions states "By standing still for 4/3/2 seconds, you reduce your Terror Radius to 0 metres and thus become stealthy until you move or act again."
So insidious should indeed stay active if you hold M2, no matter whether you do that as leatherface or huntress. It should work as huntress too and if it doesnt, then its a bug
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@Febb3 said:
Every time when I start a game all the survivors left maybe because the clown is overpowered? Does you guys know?No, kinda weak actually
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It will never be possible.
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@Arroz said:
@Zarathos said:
Arroz said:It's funny how killer main complain about SWF teams with voice chat... But the game is nominated as "best with friends" at the steam awards .. what a coincidence,...
Its mostly becaise the game was built around solo play hence why bond and aftercare exists. Having an swf on comms has spme serious imbalances. You can run a object of obssesion uav drone that hangs around an obnoxious loop and constantly update your team on the killers position.
Gens are done faster as the team awares each other of any gen that are close to being done that a solo survivour could miss. Adrenaline is devastating on a co-ordinated team. If one survivour spots a hex totem everyone knows where it is. The list goes on but the point is swf still needs some tweaks. It shouldnt be removed.
The co ordination and advantages of swf should come with consequnces i.e. slower gen progression a single use mori for killer. Maybe two hooks states im spitballing ideas but its undeniable that swf is a little to strong and needs to be toned down in some way that gives the killer a chance.
The problem is voice chat and devs can't do anything because they are Third-party programs..
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@redsopine01 said:
Now people have no excuse to just dc to be a jerk / clearly working with a killer and having people camped out the game lol I've had that 2 times it's not funAnd here we go.
BHVR being flooded by masses of falsefy reports.....
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@Yamaoka said:
If a pig totally loses the game and thus gets mad enough to slug and tbag that last survivor for 4 minutes / till he bleeds out (with a reverse bear trap) who didn't manage to escape even though said survivor didn't play cheeky in anyway and simply played the game without trying to be toxic - will the survivor get banned for disconnecting after being slugged for let's say 3.5 minutes or will the killer get banned for holding the game hostage and trolling? The survivor in question couldn't escape via the hatch as one of the other survivors decided to check for all the chests on the map.When a survivor is bleeding out, then there is a timer and thus its not a hostage situation.
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@Beckzfeehan7 said:
No I don’t this game is going to out right “Die”
Especially not on PC.
But for Console however. I think unless there’s drastic changes. There’s not long left.
Ive wrote up a few questions and topics and have had some good conversations but have not got told any definitive answer from somebody important.
Not on Twitter, not here, not on the game streams.
But ive checked Twitter. Read a lot of players tweets about the waiting times on console. It’s [BAD WORD] shocking. The amount of people tweeting the DBD page BEGGING for the game to be fixed is terrible.
A lot of people are in the same place I am. Inches away from leaving the game for good.
The waiting times aren’t the only problem.
You cant find a survivor game without waiting 20 minutes. So you try killer. Play a game or 2 and outta nowhere your frame rates drop and it becomes unplayable.
The game is in the worst condition I’ve ever seen it in and I’ve played it since day one of console drop.
But hey at least we’ll have an event to watch PC players take part in on YouTube cause no chance it’ll work at all for console 🙄🙄Actually im surprised how long console killers endured under such circumstances.
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@ThirdSealOPplzNerf said:
Trapper starts with all the traps on the map.
Trapper can reset disarmed traps.
Traps hitbox and trap size needs an increase.
Escaping from a trap will no longer be rng but take 10 seconds freeing yourself or 5 seconds with a teammate.
Trapper no longer steps in his own traps. (How tf does he steps in the traps he places? Really stupid)
Dead hard no longer works on traps. (How does some dash to evade a lunge magically make your foot invulnerable from armed bear traps #########?)
Trapper gets a 10% movement speed for 5 seconds when a trap is triggerd or disarmed.If all those changes are implemented, then I will take a look at him again.
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@JohnTed said:
Every time, when the killer is chinese, almost 90% will use cheating program. For example, the ping would suddenly rise to very high.Sigh....
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Well why would dedicated server change the way how DCing is punished?
Also dedicated servers will introduce a lot of other issues, I wonder how 360ing will turn out
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Even if it's a free win (and that's only the case vs plebs) it still is not enjoyable for a lot of killersLaakeri said:@Crizpen said:
@LegitAdventurer said:
A message to all killers. I never understood why people are afraid to fight any sort of survivors. Are you not a confident killer? Do you think you're bad? I don't get it. I understand killers have almost instantaneous wait times but survivors do not. I can't tell you how annoying it is to wait 10-15 minutes to find a game just to get dodged, sometimes 3 or 4 times in a row.Stop being afraid of SWF groups, half the time i get dodged I'm only a group of 2 people. Sometimes people join up all at once, regardless of them being in a SWF together or not. Ontop of killers being afraid of specific survivors (???) I still dont understand that stigma. "Ope nope. I can't kill them, they have a claudette on the team. Time to dodge"
So TLDR killers, please stop dodging us. We understand you find games instantly but we do not.
-sincerely,
survivors and our ridiculous wait times.I'll dodge a SWF team that comes in with four flashlights. Obviously, they're looking to frustrate me as much as possible, which means I'll have to play extra sweaty to counter it. It isn't a matter of confidence, it's a matter of annoyance. Particularly considering if I'm facing a SWF team, I'm far more likely to burn my best add-on's, but get the same or fewer points as my reward.
But SWF are a pain in the ass anyway. In solo queue matches, if I catch a survivor at my totem, or they happen to loop me past it, only that survivor knows where it is, and I can focus extra attention on them. In SWF, everyone knows. This goes for trap placement and perks as well. If I surprise one survivor with Spirit Fury, I can still use that against the next survivor, and then the next... except in SWF. Once it's used the first time, all the survivors know and will throw pallets earlier to nullify my perk. The same can be done to nullify Make Your Choice and many other perks which, more or less, depend on survivors behaving in particular ways. With traps, since one person seeing it placed means everyone knows, the other members of the team can move in behind me and disarm or remove the trap they never would have otherwise known was there.
Furthermore, relatively few SWF groups are what they should be. If I'm a rank 10 killer, for example, and a SWF team joins in, I may be facing two rank 1's, along with a 15 and 10. Obviously, for less experienced killers, the match is going to go very differently and far more frustratingly than against four players with more or less the same experience and skill as himself.
What's really funny though are how many survivors, who play SWF primarily, complain that they face Nurse, Billy and Spirit in almost every match. The killer may not have planned to play those killers, but to counter SWF, they are the best choices.
Of course, you know all this, because these are the advantages you enjoy while playing SWF. That you're complaining that another player may not want to play against that demonstrates just how little empathy you have for other players. I'd recommend you stop complaining about being dodged, and make suggestions for how to make matchmaking better, or how to give Killers some other balance when facing SWF teams, or at least an incentive to play against them.
I would take 4 flashlights over even 2 toolboxes any day. You know they are all flashlight fkboys and you are going to have easy game.
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Survivor queue times on PS4 are already kinda insane. Soon we get dedicated servers which will put killers into an even less favourable position.
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Without swf indication and with the new lobby system I ask you, how Iß the killet supposed to know whether you are solo or a 4 man squad?LegitAdventurer said:
I'm defintely not a toxic tryhard. I just enjoy playing this game?micsan said:SWF dodging is going to kill this game, it almost already has...The fact that SWF is so toxic right now is a result of SWF dodging.
Most people who are casual players have already quit because SWF is not an option. Who in their right mind will continue to play a game with 10-15 minute queue times? Only toxic tryhards that don't care about the wait time.
If SWF is not an option, I'm not going to play killer, not going to play solo, not going to play duo, I'm going to play something else.
I keep coming back to these forums in hopes of learning that these issues will be fixed, but this very thread makes me think that this is not in the near future.
If I do SWF i generally only do a 2 man group. Very rarely do I do a full 4 man squad. I think everyone needs to stop pushing everyone into a box.
"We dodge because EVERY SINGLE SURVIVOR WITH ABSOLUTELY NO EXCEPTION is a teababbing p3 claudette who is 4 man SWF with a flashlight and decisive strike!!!!"
Like...per example the other day I was a 3 man SWF and the 4th player, the random, was teabagging the entire game. While, my SWF group is not toxic teabaggers.
He will assume the worst, it'd really easy.
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I always play claudette and I almost never get dodged.LegitAdventurer said:
I don't use meg. or claudette. I don't use items. Or decisive strike. Yet I get dodged constantly lol. Back to the whole "invisible rulebook" thing lol.MegMain98 said:Some people don’t want to face lobbies with 4 P3 Claudettes and Megs with flashlights and Decisive Strike. My friend group has been lobby dodged MANY times and we’ve waited an hour for games at certain points, but do I blame the killer? No. Not many people want to get demolished by a 4 man SWF group.
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It will be worse for killer, but better for survivorsKaelum said:@Slyther83 said:
Here's the thing- I actually work in the industry. Dedicated servers will provide better latency for all players averaged out- people will ping 50-75 across the board, during the game (not fakenews lobby latency), rather than the killer pinging zero and survivors at the mercy of thei killer's personal connection and rig (current status). I appreciate your trying to make a counterpoint, but what you said about increasing the overall latency is 100% false. If people have a poor connection, then it will affect only them (also, it's THEIR problem) not the other players who have a stable connection. I genuinely don't care what quotes you have about BHVR- whether or not you're quoting them directly or not. I manage a 55,000 sq ft. datacenter and provide infrastructure as a service for enterprise customers exponentially larger than BHVR. I know what I'm talking about- and this isn't even a complicated/debatable topic.This is not a data center issue, it is a physical location issue, and I am 100% correct. The P2P latency we currently have is much lower than the client-server-client latency that we will experience once the switch to dedicated servers is made. It’s simple math, instead of a single line between survivor and killer, we have 2 lines. This is why BHVR said the EXACT same thing, this WILL NOT reduce the overall latency, it will be at the very least, slightly worse. I’ve been writing software for over 40 years, 99% of that software communicates over long distances, and globally. I think I know what I’m talking about, and not just blowing numbers out of my ass.
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The Freddy buff is a killer issue so bhvr takes their sweet time as usual.TheReptileManPhil said:i guess that freddy buff/rework the devs had talked about in 3-4 of their live streams back to back is never happening (PS i won't be replying or even see any notifications for this post because i don't stay on the forums so moderators feel free to turn off chat or even remove this post)
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Swf is still in the game, so yes trapper is still garbage. But even against solo player , doesn't perform well.....it hurts when I remember the days when trapper was fun
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Explain it to me again please, how do I counter a pallet blind for example?LegitAdventurer said:I don't understand why people get so mad over flashlights, they're one of the survivors worst items. They are very easy to counter as a killer, not only with perks, looking at walls etc etc but they also make survivors play really stupid and careless. They also put them in really vulnerable positions. On top of it all, while those flashlight survivors are hugging their tunneled friends, that's time spent doing absolutely nothing. They could be doing gens but instead they're just crouching in the grass waiting for you to slug them.
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Not reallyAgentTexes said:@Master said:
Take a spirit break until the devs fixed soundThey fixed it in the recent patch.
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@Brawler said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system#latestI'm just gonna show you. Game bans have come to PS4 and XBOX.
And now?
Now you are not gonna get banned for DCing, just like on PC
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Because.... because....: BHVR
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@Frumpbeard said:
A 5 second cooldown is not enough of a punishment for taking the matchmaking into your own hands.Perhaps, for each dodge in a certain timespan (day, week, or month), the cooldown increases further. To max of 5 minutes, or, even, to a 1-day ban.
Though really, it should probably be 5 minutes from the start, because there isn't any real reason why you would dodge a full lobby and then immediately requeue, unless you did it on purpose.
Of course you suggest punishing the other side instead of balancing the game aroudn voice comms
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If the ranking system worked properly, then it should be basically impossible to become rank 1 as freddy
The problem with the idea of making the ranking system actually a skillbased rank system is that then the wholel game would fall apart due to balance problems. Now they are kinda hidden besides all the potato players at rank 1
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@Gorgonia said:
225 gens for 9 pieces of cosmetics... that would be 45 games if you do all 5 gensIf you completely ignore the lanterns yes
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Take a spirit break until the devs fixed sound
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@Laakeri said:
@Poweas said:
@Master said:
@Poweas said:
Honestly, camping isn't all that bad. Tunnelling is the problem. And the logic some people on this forum have said baffles me. One time someone said to me when a killer breaks a gen and you go back on it that's 'tunnelling a gen'. The equivalent to tunnelling is teabagging. Looping and camping are part of the gameJust like tunneling is part of the game.
Face it, its simply the time efficient solution to focus down on one survivor.Tbagging has no gameplay impact btw, its just toxic
[BAD WORD] tunnelers. It's acceptable when they tunnel you when there's 2 gens left, I won't get mad at that. But when one guy [BAD WORD] tunnels you when they have 4 gens left or for the whole game, it seriously pisses me off. It's a scummy way to win. I only accept tunneling when the killers got less time to secure kills.
Btw you're not getting me to change my mind on tunneling.
If somebody dies when there are 4 gens left survivors farmed their team mate off the hook, how is that killers fault?
As a killer you are supposed to play bad intentionally if the survivors are bad
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@Gardenia said:
Anyone here 18+ who would like to be in a few swf matches with me? Also we'll be in discord too. So hopefully you're a bit social lolThe whole game is 18+ btw
Yeah I know its hard to believe
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Uhm the event hasnt even started yet?
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@Gorgonia said:
AgentTexes said:Lol A survivor whining about lobby dodging is hilarious when you don't lose anything and can literally join a new lobby in seconds where as the killer has to wait minutes.
Have you been playing the game lately at all?
@Gorgonia said:
AgentTexes said:Lol A survivor whining about lobby dodging is hilarious when you don't lose anything and can literally join a new lobby in seconds where as the killer has to wait minutes.
Have you been playing the game lately at all?
@NekoGamerX said:
@Master said:
@Gorgonia said:
Ehmmm... it’s not like I don’t requeue...I do, that’s why I’m complaining. I was mad yesterday but I understand some of the points stated here. But when you get 10 lobbies that are dodged one after the other it gets frustrating.Try to work out why you are getting dodged, and avoid that.
Just a tip
but people dodge because of cosmetics I mean I understnd the bloody cosmetics but I feel like they dodge because of other cosmetics.so we can put cosmetics on we want because some swf ruined it?
Well, the less reason you give them to dodge, the faster you will get a game.
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@Peanits said:
artist said:To be fair, if all four survivors use a brand new part, nothing has changed. Each provides 25% progress even before the update for a total of 100%.
I'm curious to know how it's all calculated too, if anyone has one without BNPs.
here without BNP, it takes 13.6 secs
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@Mochan said:
Should be super easy to do. I don't get why solo queue needs to be punished for this SWF problem? We're not talking to anyone about the killer's build. As I am still learning a lot about this game I find it very helpful to be able to see the killer's build after he kills me, so I can figure out what happened and how he caught me, and adjust my play for the next time.I'm all for blocking the build for SWF, but this is not necessary for solo queue players.
Why should the killer be punished for a game being balanced around solo playeres?
As a solo player you can still git gud and join a navy seals squad, as killer you cant do thatBtw, solo players can join platform voice comms or text message each other too
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@HawkAyeTheNoo said:
If killers are going to lobby dodge my medkit or my toolbox (hook daily) or god forbid my bloody face thats fine but everytime i see a mori my applications getting closed. Enjoy your 3 man. Works both ways.I know, your mates will thank you
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@ThatOneGuy said:
why do u camp and then laugh at ppl when they get toxic towards you. That in itself is being more toxic than the ones messaging you because u instigated all of it. Something needs to be done about camping it’s a no skill cheap tactic for killers who don’t know how to actually win chases or kill anyoneIf the killer dont know how to actually win chases, how did you get camped in the first place?
Just curious
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@Gonzalo said:
Change to aura reading to show only healthy or dying survivors.
Injured survivors have no chance to run or hide from the killers.
I know you can counter it with lockers but most of the time you would be in an area
where no lockers are nearby.
It would also help newcomers who haven't got their hands on self care.
What do you guys think?DO you want to be camped even more?
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@powerbats said:
@PiiFree said:
@powerbats said:
But unlike survivors ultra rares the killer gets multiple uses out of them during a trial and is guaranteed to be able to do so. The survivor has to actually escape and escape with their item and it only takes one camper or tunneler or mori and it's goodbye items and addons.That won't stop other survivors from taking and using said item though. The item still exists, it's just not in the hands of the same survivor but from a Killers perspective that doesn't matter, in fact it makes it even worse because even if you finally kill that key-user or flashlight, someone can just run by and pick it up again.
Not really complaining about it, I just want to point out that Survivors items and add-ons are a lot easier to get and to keep compared to Killers
Well that's assuming someone knows where you dropped it and picks it up and also makes it out of the trial with said item though. As far as survivors items easier to get well yeah that's pretty obvious why since it's harder for them t get bp compared to a killer.
For keeping yes it can be easier but doesn't mean it always is though and again teh killer can and usually does make more bp per run then that individual survivor did. On average the killer will make out better on both bp and on items comparatively.
Also the really good players aren't that common compared to the potatoes that make up the majority of the playerbase. Throw in killers that have everything P3'd and are always complaining about having excess bp to spend.
Most of the red rank survivors i solo up with play 4-6 different characters with each having a specific loadout they run depending on who's in the lobby and dailies. For those most also rarely bring items and if they do it's not higher than a green usually.
Well ever heard about this thing called SWF and voice comms? Yeah its a thing nowadays :sarcastic:
Aha, not higher than green? So green toolbox every game is indeed possible, glad that you admit on that now
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@powerbats said:
@Master said:
Exactly, you spend thousands of hours until you stockpile 50 of such. But thats exactly what I was saying, you cant do this every game because you lose your stuff every game and need to spend absurd amount of BP for it.
I never had an issue though earning way more bp though and getting my items back to the point I finally stopped spending bp on her. Had I kept going I'd have close to 500 each of those items instead of spending that bp on other toons.
If you throw in 1.5 or 2x bp events it's insane how much bp you earn to the point you're stockpiled for months if you blow it all on your main.
If you throw in offerings, then you cant even bring a mori every game?
Please are you trying to tell me that you can earn enough BP to use ultra rare addons+offering every game? Then Id like you to explain this to me, I must be doing sth wrong -
Yes it has been removed, but that happened quite some time ago (cant tell yuo the exact update)
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@CptainPotato said:
Same goes with killers that DC when they see survivors put 3 Hooks offering, or when they put a map they don't want to go.Well survivors got to keep their items and addons at least
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@tehshadowman33 said:
So, I know this is old news.How do you interrupt grab someone unhooking if they are trying to mindgame you by rapidly cancelling the unhook animation?
It's really bullshit. I had a SWF swarming the hook. One behind me, two doing that unhooking cancel bullshit. I can't even down the person unhooked because of invincibility frames. It's utter horsecrap. I can't even leave the hook... there's three [BAD WORD] people here.
It was removed.
The devs implemented hook invulnerability and the new unhook animation while buffing BT to make hook rushing even more braindead easy.Honestly, just switch to survivor, then you dont have to deal with this crap. Just make sure you have a few friends that back you up, and ez
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@Bravo0413 said:
Why not try the event first?Because that worked out so well last event?
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@Gorgonia said:
Ehmmm... it’s not like I don’t requeue...I do, that’s why I’m complaining. I was mad yesterday but I understand some of the points stated here. But when you get 10 lobbies that are dodged one after the other it gets frustrating.Try to work out why you are getting dodged, and avoid that.
Just a tip