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@Misa22 said:
I play killer and I complain lol.
For me, it shouldn't have that stupid speed boost, the 1hit ko is way too good as it is.
The movement speed is why its good, without it you will just be looped like during the game
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@Countfunkular said:
When it comes down to your idea that would make the killer antiloop but we already have an anti Loop killer. The clown.
The way I look at his power I believe that it's going to involve around the Mist that's being produce. I believe the mest might cause some sort of status effect due to the fact that what he's holding is a incense burner. To be quite honest I'm a little worried and how the power might work.
Just that clown doesnt do well against loopers, the only one able to do sth about that is nurse
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5 games in a row now. I literally have started my game seeing the killer run straight at me the moment I get control of my character this many times so far.
I bet you were holding down shift right after you spawned and the killer saw you over half the map in your yellow cosmetic......
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@artist said:
wallhacks in exchange for wasting time doing nothing? maybe its just me but I'd be fine with thatOrion said:@artist said:
do people actually have a problem with survivors wasting their time in lockers?No, they have a problem with an exploit that provides wallhacks. Did you even read the OP?
So yuo are telling me that it would be fine for a killer to wallhacks, but he is not allowed to mvoe while his hack works?
Ok then.....
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Mind games? Strategy? Deductive ability? Mechanical precision? A chase isn't conceptually or mechanically difficult and doing generators isn't hard.
The difficulty of playing killer:
Learning how to play strategically (when to slugg, tunnel etc)
Learning the mechanics of nurse
Difficulty of playing survivor:
Communicating with your team (remove if SWF)
Squeezing as much time out of the loops as possible
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Because wow am i getting tired of hearing this it's so far from the truth. Legion is not weak in fact i'd say with his good add-ons they are Nurse Tier.
I highly doubt that he is nurse tier, I have never seen a player do as good with him (feel free to prove me wrong with gameplay), personally I prefer playing against other killers, legion is kinda anooying if you ask me
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@KiraElijah said:
Calling poor tree man a forehead is no way to accept needing to learn map pressure
Then explain it to me, how do you do that?
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As long asyou can disable it, sure why not
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@MhhBurgers said:
Be toxic and break the gme's rules live on twitch.
If only it wasnt true....
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@MhhBurgers said:
NOED will not be changed and a 4% ms perk would be absolutely broken.
But sprint burst is fine? :smile:
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Classical BHVR way to introduce new stuff.
Instead of testing it in some internal builds, just release it and look what happens.
First matchmaking,. now the forum....
I just hope that dedicated servers wont be like this
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@GrootDude said:
@Master he is saying YOU need to learn gen pressure.
Ah he was talking about map pressure. gen pressure comes from the survivor side, its also refered as to genrushing.
And yeah I know the meme, just apply map pressure 4head
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The killer always has to play the full round, the survivor dies earlier.
Killers are addon dependent, survivors not
Killers lose stuff every game, survivors keep stuff when escaping
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@KiraElijah said:
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@TreemanXD said:
@Toxicity23 rank one lower tier killers exist and destroy.They destroy the boosted survivors that shouldnt be rank 1, but they will be destroyed by the competent ones. Thats exactly why they are low tier
If you actually know how to play Killer you can win against most survivors
Yeah just not against the competent SWF
G e n P r e s s u r e
Exactly, its the biggest problem for most killers
Gotta learn how to do it and not complain because you can’t
Uhm its not that hard too hold M1 and hit occasional skillchecks. Might be hard for beginners, but since its the only thing you need to mechanically learn, its sth you learn kinda fast
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@KiraElijah said:
@Master said:
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@TreemanXD said:
@Toxicity23 rank one lower tier killers exist and destroy.They destroy the boosted survivors that shouldnt be rank 1, but they will be destroyed by the competent ones. Thats exactly why they are low tier
If you actually know how to play Killer you can win against most survivors
Yeah just not against the competent SWF
G e n P r e s s u r e
Exactly, its the biggest problem for most killers
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@KiraElijah said:
@Master said:
@TreemanXD said:
@Toxicity23 rank one lower tier killers exist and destroy.They destroy the boosted survivors that shouldnt be rank 1, but they will be destroyed by the competent ones. Thats exactly why they are low tier
If you actually know how to play Killer you can win against most survivors
Yeah just not against the competent SWF
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@Bravo0413 said:
You realize when you run NOED you can just hit the savior right? BT is designed to help against camping so..Just that we got DS in a few weeks
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@TreemanXD said:
@Master prove ME wrong me and other low tier killers go against good survivors at rank one, maybe you should get better at killer?Ok, watch the official tournament. The only killer that managed to do sth was nurse.
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@TreemanXD said:
@Master you think that, but you’re wrong.Prove me wrong
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@The_Bogeyman said:
@Master said:
Summer will bring dedicated servers which hopefully will enable the devs to finally punish DCingKilling yourself on hook ain't a dc, bud. Devs should ignore this stupid thread.
I never said that, I am talking about real DCs
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@MhhBurgers said:
So, can ppl tell me the ACTUAL counters to NOED?I wonder if we can add anything to this list.
-Doing the totems during game
-Small game to find the totems
-Finding the lit totem in endgame
-Simply leaving teammates behind instead of going altruistic
-Hope gives a higher speedboost than NOED altho it still doesn't make you faster than the killer you can loop more effectively till the totem is found.Any more counters that come to mind?
You forgot DCing once a mate is oneshoted.
The killer cant NOED you if he cant hit you
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early autumn or "almsot summer"
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Summer will bring dedicated servers which hopefully will enable the devs to finally punish DCing
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@deathsia said:
In the past i've downright removed this game from my steam account(as in I had to buy it again in order to play it) due to the playerbase being so toxic that every match left me fuming, especially later rank matches where players would abuse every single mechanic to its fullest and so often that it often boardered on if this should be considered a legit form of cheating.I've encountered players who I swear to god throttled their ping/connection on purpose so they could PERFECTLY time that pallet drop knowing that it would occur a full 5 seconds later due to lag.
Then there are those who will LITERALLY STAND AROUND juking your swings with a flashlight in hand WAITING for you to pick up a downed survivor knowing that the killer is framelocked and unable to dodge. (This one REALLY urks me alot and I know why it hasn't been patched out, the survivor mains would riot so hard since their guaranteed cheap shot is gone.)
Then there are the players who will literally FARM THE KILLER FOR POINTS! And its not like we can just "avoid" having a pallet dropped on our heads since anyone who is toxic enough to farm a killer with the gates open knows how to bait even the most pro of killers into a pallet drop.
Players wonder why some of these killers facecamp or use one-shot down builds which are often looked at as toxic builds, well if survivors would stop using tactics that boarder on cheating, maybe the killers would as well!
Its not the players fault for using the stuff the devs gave them, you have to blame BHVR.
Not really sure what you mean with throttling the connection to perfectly time the pallet drop? Usually a bad connection messes up your timing^^
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@Watery said:
Master said:@Watery said:
gen tapping is fine. if we can stop regression, you can go damage it again for even more progress
Damaging it does only starts a really slow decay of progress. The animation of the damaging is so long however that you can run behind a survivor in a loop and he always taps the gen, you damage it again, and this can go on forever
i think gentapping is the least of our problems rn, run PGTW, or ruin, or something. IDK, maybe overcharge
Ahh and once again being forced to take a perk to fix a design flaw. You heard about this mystery that the killer only has 4 perk slots?
Btw ruin is countered by gentapping
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@LCGaster said:
@Master said:
You feel punished for picking himbecause you are.
He is one of the weakest killers.If you can bring someone to the basement and trap up the place really good, then you can make sth happen (assuming the survivors are overaltruistic)
I usually manage to get 4ks with him, but the traps are usually pretty useless, I can maybe catch one or two in them during a match but that's it. Sometimes I do get crushed tho.
4k with trapper means that the survivors were bad.
You even admit it, the traps are useless and he is a M1 solely.He needs a rework as desperately as freddy, since the SWF introduction he simply is not viable anymore
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@The_Crusader said:
But some killers were tunneling so much it really sucked the fun out of the game for a lot of people.Just slug if you bump into them. Slows survivors down but they dont take a hook. Its good for both sides. I used to slug when people got unhooked in front of me anyway. It stopped me from being hurt with genrush but it also gave that survivor a second chance.
And slugging is more fun for the survivors?
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@Watery said:
gen tapping is fine. if we can stop regression, you can go damage it again for even more progressDamaging it does only starts a really slow decay of progress. The animation of the damaging is so long however that you can run behind a survivor in a loop and he always taps the gen, you damage it again, and this can go on forever
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You feel punished for picking himbecause you are.
He is one of the weakest killers.If you can bring someone to the basement and trap up the place really good, then you can make sth happen (assuming the survivors are overaltruistic)
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@JAWS_BDSM said:
survivor is in the corner - you stand as much close as you can. hes blocked, congratulations! BTW I did this block like 1-2 times on a hatch standoff when a survivor kept BMing while standing on a hatch. I know its bannable (for 1 day LUL), yet these people deserve to end up like this, cuz they want killer to let them escape and they dont respect him at the same time. BTW is it bannable, if I block survivor in basement when he has reverse Bear trap active? Hes going to die in less than 3 mins anyway...It is only bannable if you bodyblock someone without any timer running. Bodyblocking the basement with RBT is totally ok to do (but kinda a jerk move
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I have never jumped into a locker by accident instead of vaulting? Why? Because I dont hammer it miles before
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If you cant base a matchmaking solely of rank, then this is a alarming sign that there is something wrong with the rank system.
What should one do in such a case?
Add bandaid fix? FOR ######### SAKE NO, you fix the actual problem
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@Chaotic_Riddle said:
I’m sure it’ll be fixed soon, especially with the rework coming to Decisive Strike and the Obession mechanic.Yeah Soon TM
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@PwnyFish said:
Ofcourse they can balance it towards SWF, #########?
You dont need an ingame voicechat, you can already do that and invite the people to a discord server in the lobby.You simply have to give survivors more information about whats happening in the game via the HUD. Its not that difficult to do...
Stuff like, is someone being chased. Is someone working on a Gen. Is someone working on a totem. Even if a survivor is in the terror radius of the killer could be shown via the HUD.
Getting a totem counter. Getting an ingame match timer. These are all things, that would actually make it soooo much easier for the devs to balance the game, since it would eliminate
(Obviously these things would buff survivors and killers would need to be buffed accordingly)But its unlikely that BEhaviour will do that. With the simple argument that it should stay "scary"...
You simply cant compensate real life voice comms with some hud information. Even games that have a live minimap showing everything that happens still separate queues into solo/premade.
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@Tarvesh said:
Chaotic_Riddle said:So...Get rid of the first amendment?
You have no first amendment rights if you live outside the US. You also have no first amendment rights if you live in the US but use a company’s forum for discussion because that company sets the rules for speech on their forum.
You know, there is similar stuff like the 1st amendment in other countries
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@RSB said:
@Master said:
I guess it was the change when killers and survivors got different sized hitboxes which resulted in the exploit (nowadays called feature) looping which means that survivors can cut corners tighter than killers.Additionally it screwed over trapper since survivors can bypass his traps, but he woudl get stuck if taking the same pathing
What was the original purpose of that change though? I cant remember tbh
Eaxactly this.
Do you remember what BHVR was trying to achieve with the change?
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@UwU said:
@Master said:
I assume you are talking about the unhooking invulnerability.I have no idea either why thsi was added, but rushing hooks is even more braindead due to that
I never go too far from my hook anyways, I always just patrol nearby gens unless I know somebodies on the ones further away. I mean you can't expect much balance from a group of developers who are genuinely rank 20s in their own game (if you watch the dev live streams, you can see sometimes they play and they're literally rank 20 soo, lol) but you would think they wouldn't just take advice off angry players who don't know how to counter certain things in the game.
Removing tunnelling would be the equilavent of saying "Can we please make it so you can't run through the same pallet more than once because I keep getting looped in games" lol.
It takes stuff like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R98e-Y4Lu8w&t=2sfor the devs to realize that stuff like instablind are OP.
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The sad part is that this has nothing to do with new player experience. Even at rank 1 you are pretty much powerless in the hatch situation, thats why the hatch closing mechanic got proposed.
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I guess it was the change when killers and survivors got different sized hitboxes which resulted in the exploit (nowadays called feature) looping which means that survivors can cut corners tighter than killers.
Additionally it screwed over trapper since survivors can bypass his traps, but he woudl get stuck if taking the same pathing
What was the original purpose of that change though? I cant remember tbh
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Its a killer issue, so it will need more time to adress than survivor issues.
Its been like that since the beginning of DBD and it will always stay the same.If were lucky, then the chapter patch will fix it, but I doubt that tbh
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@Theninjabizcuit said:
My only qualm with the Ruin hex is if there is only one survivor left with 5 or 4 generators left the hex should break itself. Not fair to last survivor if their team mates sucked so bad no generators got fixed. Feels like the survivor has no chance.Doesnt really matter since as one survivor with 5 or 4 gens left, you are screwed anyway.
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I assume you are talking about the unhooking invulnerability.
I have no idea either why thsi was added, but rushing hooks is even more braindead due to that
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@TreemanXD said:
@Toxicity23 rank one lower tier killers exist and destroy.They destroy the boosted survivors that shouldnt be rank 1, but they will be destroyed by the competent ones. Thats exactly why they are low tier
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Some killers just are not meant to be viable, its sad but it is what it is
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Such a mechanic would be awesome in the original DBD, but unfortunately SWF has spoiled this too....
I like the perks, but ofc they would be "OP", only survivors can have stuff like this
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@SadonicShadow said:
This is some low tier bait.After posts like this you learn how to appreciate high quality bait
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@IronKnight55 said:
I have almost enough Iridescent Shards to buy a killer. Should I get Spirit, Clown or Legion? What do you guys think?Spirit can be strong, but also really frustrating. it all comes down to mindgames and those naturally can fail since the survivor can mindgame you too. I prefer reliable killers tbh.
Clown is just trash, he is supposed to counter looping, but he actually doesnt and he has no map control.
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@shinymon said:
Sometimes, I like to fool around as The Clown and just throw bottles at any survivors I see. Then, they start fooling around as well. Basically, is choosing not kill bannable?I just cheked this link below and I'm not quite sure if it falls under any of that.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system#latestNo, thats totally fine.
Basically the equivalent to "not doing gens and just looping"
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doc skillchecks appear on other positions of the screen
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@PhantomMask20763 said:
Because you blink every now and then therefore not watching it completlyNot correct, you can watch the same match twice if someone streams it e.g., so you will blink at different times