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Have you ever played Killer before the flashlight update? That ######### was quite uncomfortable in a dark room.
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Yes.Eveline said:No. -
There seems to be a misconception here, it is allowed to bodyblock someone in a corner to use a power or get a free hit. You are allowed to to uncloak, rev your chainsaw, shock till Madness 3 etc. As long as you don't do it to take the game hostage its all good.
Also Wraith can do it consistently and is by far the best at it. -
She is high tier but not often used right.
Most use all 10 traps on a hook then facecamp as close as possible to defeat the point of her traps completely. -
NOED should remove the Killers red stain and TR completely. If not giving it to NOED then make it a new perk.
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Exactly, not a faster heal status effect of course, but that would be an interesting perk for survivors, like curtting healing by 33% and make it a reverse DW so you can move earlier, at the cost of stopping in a chase and risk wasting your heal.TAG said:
I think OP meant that it's a status condition that makes it so using a healing action of any kind would instead create a Deep Wounds-like bar under your HUD icon that automatically fills up over time and THEN actually recovers one health state once it's full. Kinda like an alternate take on Mangled.HazeHound said:Seems op. Tap button and get free heal while beeing chased or working on generators.
This game is already too easy you know. Take stiptic if you need insta heals. -
I would like to add:PhantomMask20763 said:If you see a survivor being woken up by someone else, go there IMMEDIATELY, drop a chase if you have to because that's 2 more people in your world, besides you can get back to that person after you sleep the other 2.
Remember those who beeline directly to a fellow survivor, they are SWF or use aura reading, therefore you can use him as your bait/drone and keep people asleep even easier.
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Translation: Hold W to win or underpowered.deathsia said:@TreemanXD said:
@deathsia you have to mind game with every killerYes but the difference between other killers and Freddy is that other killers can keep pressure on survivors with freddy they just run to a gen and purposely blow it up in their face or purposely fail and self-heal check and then there goes Freddy's pressure.
On a more serious note: Self caring survivors is what you want. Don't try to leave anyone healthy if you don't have to. Making them waste time IS how Freddy pressures them.
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Sorry but Rancor and Enduring are supposed to help? Don't get me wrong i don't think DS is going to be OP. But in order to for that to work you need to find your Obsession, down and mori him, find the next, hook him, then power through a likely BT, eat the DS, catch him before he runs out, and mori him. And im supposed to do that 4 times till they are all dead? While they can open the gate in 20 sec and counter BW by 99% the gates easily?powerbats said:Hmmn it's almost as if killers don't have tool to help them like mori's, Rancor, Enduring etc and the best one their brains to plan ahead.
4 man takes ds, 4 man activates ds, 4 man gets obliterated by rancor and mori, 4 amns ds turns into double pip.
whiny killers still come to forum and complain because they have something that works and can't use ds as an excuse eanymore.
Ain't gonna happen.
Basements and pallet deadzones are not common enough for Enduring to reliably help. And if we are talking about the current DS, only a part of the animation is affected by the 55% recovery afaik. Its like trying to protect yourself from a gun with just a bike helmet. -
Roma invicta!
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That reminds me of the Hills run red, mostly cause the Killer there has a mask that is VERY similar to Trapper's.
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Hawaii pizza with extra pineapple.
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If you think Freddy is the worst Killer i have bad news for you...e8Lattice said:Killers, because every Multiplayer game needs an easy-mode, hand-held, babied crutch option for all those extra special entitled snowflakes out there.
Bring the nerf, if Killers want a game mode that consists entirely of them looking at a screen in an empty lobby simulator that says "You Win" that's there hang up.
Oh except Freddy - the only fairly balanced Killer in game.
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Germany is NOT socialist, how long do you live here and where did you get educated, a clown school? We are capitalists, just more generous. The free market should have told you that by itself.MhhBurgers said:@ChesterTheMolester said:
MhhBurgers said:@CaptainCastle said:
MhhBurgers said:
@brokedownpalace said: MhhBurgers said:
brokedownpalace said: So because you have a ######### set up you're complaining about the game. Sounds about right for a killer main. Nothing is ever your fault. Youre right. It's Not my fault that I won't get a bigger flat. In other games my setup is not an issue, war Thunder, league etc all have decently lighted areas.
Play them, then. Not sure why you expect the devs to alter their game because you don't have a proper way to play it. Everything in life is basically given to you for no effort nowadays, same should go for gaming. Thinking players need good peripherals to effectively play your game is ableism.
Troll confirmed
In germany you get a flat, 416+130+600€ each month for sitting on your ass and ppl here tell me life is hard.
Over one century of welfare in Germany and this is the result ladies and gentlemen.
But atleast you are living proof that socialism and communism doesn't work so i guess you are not completely useless.
"socialism doesn't work". Germany is literally a giant on the world stage right now, maybe don't watch too much alex jones.
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Over one century of welfare in Germany and this is the result ladies and gentlemen.MhhBurgers said:@CaptainCastle said:
MhhBurgers said:@brokedownpalace said:
MhhBurgers said:
brokedownpalace said: So because you have a ######### set up you're complaining about the game. Sounds about right for a killer main. Nothing is ever your fault. Youre right. It's Not my fault that I won't get a bigger flat. In other games my setup is not an issue, war Thunder, league etc all have decently lighted areas.
Play them, then. Not sure why you expect the devs to alter their game because you don't have a proper way to play it.
Everything in life is basically given to you for no effort nowadays, same should go for gaming. Thinking players need good peripherals to effectively play your game is ableism.
Troll confirmed
In germany you get a flat, 416+130+600€ each month for sitting on your ass and ppl here tell me life is hard.
But atleast you are living proof that socialism and communism doesn't work so i guess you are not completely useless.
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R1 Freddy main here.
Focus on causing disruption and stalling over chases, that will naturally cause the chases to be done faster once the pallets are gone and you are able to pick opportunistic downs.
Also that playstyle easily maxes your BP gain, once you get good with him you can look forward to getting 60k BP on average with BBQ. -
Two guides that helped me.
https://youtu.be/0rTtr7pUe-Q
Here is a wall of text guide on Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/92hxzi/how_to_wreck_with_the_power_of_darn_an_indepth
Other tips:
1. Self caring survivors are often better than dreaming survivors, especially when gens are nearby, learn transition mindgames and keep them hurt.
2. Don't commit to huge chases when you don't have to. If a survivor approaches one of those disgusting huge loops let him go, pull others in the dream world and come back later and catch him off guard and hit him, if he runs up to the loop again you simply let him go again for a little while or just bluff a retreat and down him.
If you have Insidious, break line of sight and stay nearby behind cover, surprise them when they leave or heal.
3. Analyse the pallet heavens (lots) and deadzones (few/none). Priotize catching any sleeping survivors in the dead zone.
4. The new surveillance is like gods gift for Freddy.
5. When someone unhooks in front of your face, hit the rescuer first. Maybe pull some others in the dreamworld to deny BT activation while keeping them busy. If there is a third then its sometimes better to let both run off hurt and go for the third while both are waking up and healing.
6. Your main addons will be Dresses, Claws and Range addons. The block addons will deny you the mindgames, they kinda suck.
7. For Freddy, the game is often a war of attrition. Bait pallet drops when pulling survivors into the dream world even if you don't intend to chase them yet. Once their items and pallets run dry they will start getting downed fast, especially when you use Bamboozle.
8. Most perks are good on him, but some favorites include Bamboozle, Pop goes the Weasel, Sloppy Butcher, Brutal Strength, Ruin, Make your Choice, Enduring, Spirit Fury, Nurses Calling, Surveillance and Insidious. You can use most of them in virtually any combination.
9. Stay unpredictable. Thats very important.
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What makes me a good Demoman?Maelstrom10 said:@Judgement said:
Peanits said:, so it would just look like it exploded.
I don’t know about you, but I do love me some explosions.
KERBLOOWEY
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Come on man you had one job. -
I noticed that as well...
Howling Grounds jacket, left to self care.
Shirtless David? Every group heals you at once. -
There is no problem getting paid a lot for sitting on your ass as long as you pay the taxes. Also you better wish he did, then he would have time to play an actual game or two and realize how ######### his games are, the guy can barely tell even if he'd try. CEO's mostly work non stop, don't even see their kids for more than 5 min per day. Thats one of the reasons rich kids are known to be so mentally #########.MhhBurgers said:@ChesterTheMolester said:
MhhBurgers said:@ChesterTheMolester said:
fcc2014 said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@I_am_Negan said:
So why do you get look down upon as a freeloader. I get 1260€/month in Welfare in germany due to false disasbility claims Wow congratulations!
Looks like my taxes are well spent...
If you live in a social democracy then yeah, part of living there is the SOCIAL part.
Lol, wasting money that is intended for people having bad luck, and you wanna explain me the social part while faking a disability? You are an hell of a class act.
Activision CEO earns 28 million a year for sitting on his ass, I think there's bigger fish to fry than me. (never worked as a CEO but I think that's all he does, else gamers wouldn't harp on him)
Also you call sitting on your ass the life fit for a human being so why are so judgemental towards him?
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Lol, wasting money that is intended for people having bad luck, and you wanna explain me the social part while faking a disability? You are an hell of a class act.MhhBurgers said:@ChesterTheMolester said:
fcc2014 said:@MhhBurgers said:
@I_am_Negan said:
So why do you get look down upon as a freeloader.
I get 1260€/month in Welfare in germany due to false disasbility claims
Wow congratulations!
Looks like my taxes are well spent...
If you live in a social democracy then yeah, part of living there is the SOCIAL part.
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I know its licensed but it'd kinda fit John Carpenters The Fog, with the religious theme and smoke/fog.
We need The Fog chapter. -
Better be Jim Jones the Kool Aid man.Orion said:So the killer is a cult leader?
That or my boi Xenu. -
If they would buff the weaker Killers then that may become less of a problem.
Better ask to buff those than demanding people to stop playing Nurse and Billy. -
Looks like my taxes are well spent...fcc2014 said:@MhhBurgers said:
@I_am_Negan said:
So why do you get look down upon as a freeloader.I get 1260€/month in Welfare in germany due to false disasbility claims
Wow congratulations!
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For Freddy? The Pay 2 Wins.
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I mean it kinda depends on who you main and your playstyle, i can imagine that perk rework pissing off a lot of Wraiths, Nurses and Hags while its mostly a pure buff for less tunneling Killers like Freddy, Pig, Legion and Trapper (who are already less powerful than the 2 meta Killers, fair enough).
Since i play a lot of Freddy, Trapper and still relearning Pig i will personally deal with DS a lot less than before so maybe im biased towards it.
Also i believe right now is your standard aperkalypse we get with each chapter, remember when people declared the game is dying cause of Deliverance, Bamboozle, Distortion, Rancor, Breakdown, Autodidact, Spirit Fury, Make Your Choice and BT rework? This perk is basicly just another version of BT but for yourself.
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I agree, all Killers should have one or two addons that change the playstyle significantly to spice things up, and lower than very rare grade if possible. For example we could make speed limiter give Billy unhindered control at the cost of an injure and longer cooldown.
Paint Brush, Amandas Letter etc. need their rarity decreased. -
Thats why survivors can climb trees and rocks on some maps and LF starts a tantrum when hitting something at the very edge of the screen or nothing at all, especially with the guide bar...MegsAreEvil said:@Master said:
The animation is just a visual thing, they have nothing to do with hit detection.And yes, a killer can reach through the window and hit a survivor on the other side, just like in IRL ya know
Wanna see that Spirit or Billy in RL with their specific movement hitting through a window. Would not be possible, they would hit the windowframe instead. And thats the problem: the animation is not logical to the hit. And thats also a problem of hitboxes. Most objects doesnt seem to have hitdetection while killer weapons are "activated" like the chainsaw running through wall corners. For example: Leatherface mostly hitting nothing at all while survs get repelled by the smallest stone on the ground. I tell you: somethings strange in this neighbourhood.
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Oops.TAG said:
Wrong add-on. I was referring to Amanda's Secret, not Amanda's Letter.ChesterTheMolester said:
12m and still halves your stalling potential even with last will. Wraith gets 16m with no downside at a lesser quslity and its not even close to his best addons (Ghost, Windstorm, Swift Hunt and the Clappers are way more benificial as Wraith is a good tracker by default).NuclearBurrito said:
Doesn't seem that bad. You'd never have to patrol the boxes with it since it effectively patrols for youTAG said:
It's at that rarity because it's "Very Rare" that you'll ever want to use it. :PHatCreature said:@TAG said:
I see your bet and I raise.And it's ''Very Rare'' SO COVETED!
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You know you gotta wait till the animation ends, if you time it right you can still free him before the Killer can really move.nararatu said:@ChesterTheMolester said:
So you know it works, and still complain?
Your timing is just bad, its your git gud problem.I see you're having problem reading the original post. Therefore I will just ignore you.
If you can't do that then its your problem.
A git gud problem.
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So you know it works, and still complain?
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You are a crybaby yourself, you complain about a crutch perk which only real counter was a borderline exploit and call BBQ out for being OP despite having a ton of counterplay and have the nerve of calling everyone else babies not caring about balance.e8Lattice said:@yeet said:
@e8Lattice said:
DC can be countered by just chasing down the target again. . . Come on people it's not hard, and you even get chase points for it!Currently DC is a waste of a perk slot because it's a one off single use through away perk.
Once this killer hand-holding nerf goes live it will only turn Survivors onto better perks they should be taking over DC anyway so it'll just focus the Killer /crybaby brigade onto those and inevitably get them nerfed too.
It's all a part of the greater plan of turning dbd into an empty lobby simulator with a screen with big text saying "You Win! - and in small print: "because your a special snowflake"
On the subject of actual toxic stuff that's eating away at the game from within, when's BBQ Cheese getting nerfed again? oh wait it isn't because the special snowflake killer /crybaby brigade would burn down the forum with their tears of napalm I forgot about that one.
get some sense, the only person crying like a baby here is you
Hey if your fine with your game dying because of massive power imbalance that's fine by me.
Get some sense you hypocritical clown. -
You can usually pick them up regardless, i play Freddy a lot so that happened a couple times.
Looks like it wither bugged you or BHVR managed to indirectly nerf Fredboi again. -
Good news for us Freddys (and Pigs) though, we will never be affected by DS anymore.PhantomMask20763 said:I thought survivors hated tunneling? Isn't this a good option to help prevent it?
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Something being OP or broken does not necessarily mean its popular.Cymer said:It's truly funny and the camps in survivors are split in half.
One side is acting like their life blood is getting taken away, the others are saying they don't even use DS.
So either DS was so overpower that too many rely on it or it was in an ok state and nobody really uses it.
In both cases a change was necessary.
If it's a core perk in every survivor build it is clearly too strong and needed adjustments.
If it wasn't that strong and barely someone took it, why will it be missed?
Are the survivors really upset or is it just the human mind who entirely dislikes any form of change, be it good or bad.
For example in CSGO the SG553 was mechanically so beyond any other weapon in the game that it was, before i quit broken.
But nobody used it because of the meta that most who dislike thinking for themselves immediatly jumped upon and the meta was so religiously abided that you got kicked nearly immediatly for buying itevrn thouhh nobody really recognized its potential.
In Killing Floor 2, the Berserker (melee perk) has a weapon called the Eviscerator, it lead to most Berserkers who are basicly melee tanks to play as sharpshooters that would completely ignore the purpose of their class and be useless to the team, IT WAS NOT OP but still had to be nerfed to the ground to stop that meta and those players from basicly being unwitting griefers. -
12m and still halves your stalling potential even with last will. Wraith gets 16m with no downside at a lesser quslity and its not even close to his best addons (Ghost, Windstorm, Swift Hunt and the Clappers are way more benificial as Wraith is a good tracker by default).NuclearBurrito said:
Doesn't seem that bad. You'd never have to patrol the boxes with it since it effectively patrols for youTAG said:
It's at that rarity because it's "Very Rare" that you'll ever want to use it. :PHatCreature said:@TAG said:
I see your bet and I raise.And it's ''Very Rare'' SO COVETED!
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Killers can't dribble anymore as the skillcheck appears during the pickup.MyNamePete said:The new DS change and nerf is cool and I can 100% see where the devs are coming from. I play killer more than survivor but I fear that this perk would be useless against the higher ranks. (red/purple/maybe green).
If i get downed as soon as I get unhooked, theres a high chance I would be dribbled back to the hook. If i get downed I could easily just be slugged until the perk
deactiviates.Idk if they said enduring wouldnt work with it now, but if they didnt then it shouldnt. The stun would only last about .75 seconds which would actually make this perk useless unless you have survivors to take hits for you.
I really dont know what else they could do to fix problems like these. Against skilled killers this perk is almost like “hey remember when you kept getting slugged and didnt enjoy it? Well this perk slugs you for a minute!”
Either increasing the timer or making it so you get freed if the killer hits “drop” but DS is consumed. Its like thinking of buffs for The Legion as I feel like this wouldnt help anything. Many people are happy about this change and to you guys I hope you enjoy it and im glad DS finally got changed, I just wish they put a little more thought into it.
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Also if the Killer is really bent on keeping you slugged for 60s straight he can lose 2-3 gens easily in the process, remember that those 60s do not include the time it takes to pick you up, and bring you to a hook and even that does not include the time to redown you if you get back up. So don't worry about that. -
Its not bad if you have Surveillance since you know when awake survivors passed that skillcheck, put him in the dream world to and kick it again.
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You still pretend that they either took an idea without debate or testing straight out of the forum or worse, invited someone in the forum to make that change. That is not how anything works, no "random guy" did take a Dev position, if anything he tried to find a solution that'dwork from their perspective.Angelicus23 said:
1. When did I say devs are devil? I just said that a random guy shouldn't take a dev position to make any change to game.ChesterTheMolester said:1. "Evil devs listening to feedback! [BAD WORD] EM"
2. No change has to be approved by the community, we do not own DBD.
3. Skillchecks aren't hard, you get a warning that is absolutely gigantic by video game standards, in any other game taking that long to react will end in defeat 95% of the time.
4. "######### is illegal, does that mean all sex is illegal?"
5. I did not see that many people defending DS, and even if so what? They don't matter. Argumentum ad populum.
2. In case that someone from the community changed the game because yes, I think the rest of the people will have something to say abot, because news didn't say where did the idea came from and not many people saw the comment of the image on the top (this is why I made this discussion)
3.Yep, you're warned when the skillcheck is going to appear but I remember you the succeed range of it.
4.This joke is absolutely out of sense. Survivors are called like that because of something, but It looks like they have to survive every path to keep playing.
5. Then you must be living in a cave because in just a few hours instagram, twitter, discord servers,... were destroyed by memes and things like 'press F on this chat for DS' or 'RIP emote for DS here'. Argumentum ad populum like the one you used on point 3? Skillchecks sounds are gigantic videogame standard, but the ones you played.
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1. "Evil devs listening to feedback! ######### EM"
2. No change has to be approved by the community, we do not own DBD.
3. Skillchecks aren't hard, you get a warning that is absolutely gigantic by video game standards, in any other game taking that long to react will end in defeat 95% of the time.
4. "######### is illegal, does that mean all sex is illegal?"
5. I did not see that many people defending DS, and even if so what? They don't matter. Argumentum ad populum. -
Pig and Freddy are the very last Killers who should tunnel, especially Freddy. Also Make Your Choice is going to be a lot more beautiful now, especislly for Wraith.OrionsFury4789 said:
I don't think they realize that the 4 DS squads just got even worse when they see they can use it just like the obsession if they get tunneled , killers will have to learn not to tunnel to be effective and win the game ( RIP wraith, pig, and Freddy mains) those are always the tunnelers because they don't have much of a choice , it's almost a good thing though @fcc2014 because alot of these killers need to learn how to win without camping and tunneling as their main strategyfcc2014 said:@ToxicFengM1n said:
Nerfing DS like it needed, it was Overpowered now its weaker than before
It isn't really. Here is why. Every killer who tunnels now has to worry about getting hit with DS. They will have to wait 60's to pick them up or waste a perk slot for Enduring. Killers can't even guess anymore by having an obsession. Lots can be done in 60's in this game. Generators, healing up, hook breaking that area, getting in position for flashlight saves, assembling to body block etc... Survivors constantly adapt to changes. Everyone is celebrating on here just like they did for the exhaustion and self-care nerf . Most considered this to be the next step to nerf survivors and get 4k's every match. This just made every killer that tunnels and a large amount(not all do) much weaker as they will have to decide if they want to pick that survivor up or wait. @not_Queen @Patricia @Giddawid I really hope that your team considered the counter play to this.
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Evil Ash as Killer would only work if hes a VERY talkaktive dumbass. Still i love Ash and would love to see such DLC.
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In theory yes, in practice no, a gen takes 80 seconds, and the 60 second do not include the time to rehook you and getting to a gen, you risk 3 gens with a single DS if you tunnel that hard.Gorgonia said:Now, I’m the killer, i see you get unhooked, I could chase you or down you for 60 secs and DS would be useless. The time limit sounds good but in practice it will lead to more toxic killers -
As Freddy, you wanna keep everyone asleep as much as possible, keep them hurt too as self caring wastes significantly more time than a wake up, they will try to heal once you learned the mindgames above, these are very important.
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Two guides that helped me.https://youtu.be/0rTtr7pUe-Q
Here is a wall of text guide on Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/92hxzi/how_to_wreck_with_the_power_of_darn_an_indepth
Other tips:
1. Self caring survivors are often better than dreaming survivors, especially when gens are nearby, learn transition mindgames and keep them hurt.
2. Don't commit to huge chases when you don't have to. If a survivor approaches one of those disgusting huge loops let him go, pull others in the dream world and come back later and catch him off guard and hit him, if he runs up to the loop again you simply let him go again for a little while or just bluff a retreat and down him.
If you have Insidious, break line of sight and stay nearby behind cover, surprise them when they leave or heal.
3. Analyse the pallet heavens (lots) and deadzones (few/none). Priotize catching any sleeping survivors in the dead zone.
4. The new surveillance is like gods gift for Freddy.
5. When someone unhooks in front of your face, hit the rescuer first. Maybe pull some others in the dreamworld to deny BT activation while keeping them busy. If there is a third then its sometimes better to let both run off hurt and go for the third while both are waking up and healing.
6. Your main addons will be Dresses, Claws and Range addons. The block addons will deny you the mindgames, they kinda suck.
7. For Freddy, the game is often a war of attrition. Bait pallet drops when pulling survivors into the dream world even if you don't intend to chase them yet. Once their items and pallets run dry they will start getting downed fast, especially when you use Bamboozle.
8. Most perks are good on him, but some favorites include Bamboozle, Pop goes the Weasel, Sloppy Butcher, Brutal Strength, Ruin, Make your Choice, Enduring, Spirit Fury, Nurses Calling, Surveillance and Insidious. You can use most of them in virtually any combination.
9. Stay unpredictable. Thats very important.
https://youtu.be/68F3N4W2MBc