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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@The_Crusader said:
Allow me to explain the situation here.
Meg is the last person alive. The hatch has spawned. Meg has Decisive Strike. Meg has crawled to a space away from any nearby hooks.
The killer (in this case the Spirit) does not have Enduring equipped, and therefore can not pick Meg up risk-free.
So what we have is a stalemate. The killer does not wish to be stunned and risk the survivor running to the hatch. The survivor decides to crawl to a location where they can't be hooked, so they can either force the d-strike or bleed out on the ground out of some misplaced sense of pride.
So both players sit there for over a minute waiting for the inevitable bleed out.
When people look back on games like Ocarina of Time, Half-Life, Starcraft etc and admire the timeless design, I am confident that Dead by Daylight will be held in the same regard as those games. Simply fantastic design here.
BHVR is known for this, they also came up with the brilliant design called hatch standoff
Players like you don't understand reasons why the hatch must exist.
Would you rather the last player move around the entire end game or you both converge on the same point and one of you can end it pretty quickly.
I'd take hatch every time because I just hit the last survivor because who actually gives a toss about 4Ks LUL
I was talkign about the hatch STANDOFF, not the hatch in general. But keep trashtalking about 4ks, im used that from you anyway
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@The_Crusader said:
Allow me to explain the situation here.
Meg is the last person alive. The hatch has spawned. Meg has Decisive Strike. Meg has crawled to a space away from any nearby hooks.
The killer (in this case the Spirit) does not have Enduring equipped, and therefore can not pick Meg up risk-free.
So what we have is a stalemate. The killer does not wish to be stunned and risk the survivor running to the hatch. The survivor decides to crawl to a location where they can't be hooked, so they can either force the d-strike or bleed out on the ground out of some misplaced sense of pride.
So both players sit there for over a minute waiting for the inevitable bleed out.
When people look back on games like Ocarina of Time, Half-Life, Starcraft etc and admire the timeless design, I am confident that Dead by Daylight will be held in the same regard as those games. Simply fantastic design here.
BHVR is known for this, they also came up with the brilliant design called hatch standoff
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@DaniDa85 said:
In my last 6 games 5 times the killer dc ing. In every game where two BPS active.
I cant understand this...In my last 3 games I had 6 Dcing survivors..... its about time that this is being punished.... such a joke
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Accusing you of using legitimate strategies? How dare you.....
Seriously, just ignore them
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@Bbbrian2013 said:
@Swiftblade131 said:
Just buy a PC?I heard there can be some pretty bad latency using a KB/M on console because of the adapters, plus it wasn't made for one. Why is everyone trying to be PC without being PC?
Some people don't like playing on PC. I don't like Steam so it makes PC a huge turn off for me as a platform.
what so bad about steam?
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@Broosmeister said:
I had a game where the hatch was behind a hill on 1 side of the map. Killer was leatherface and he was literally standing on the hill for LITERALLY 20(!) minutes looking for me after tunneling every hooked survivor. Finally i decided to just run for it because he wouldn't leave the hill so i died. Why doesn't the hatch dissapear and respawn somewhere else after 3 minutes or so? Makes finding and remembering the hatch almost impossible and killer and survivor both can't camp hatch for way too long.
No more hatch standoffs and no more toxic killers who stand on the hatch and toxic survivors who camp the hatch to T-bag the killer.What is he supposed to do? Walk away and let you escape? Pls bro.....
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@Kaldrax said:
In order to encourage killers to go after different survivors, why not give bonus points to killers when they hook a survivor who is not the last survivor they hooked (while lowering the base amount of BP given for hooks)A similar idea was already suggested, but with the difference that the bonus was a genspeed-debuff instead of BP. Guess how the survivors reacted, "tunneling needs to be punished, no killer buffs for ez 4ks"
Oh and btw, a 4k will give you probably more points than a 1-2k with the bonus BP from not tunneling, also it is more time efficient
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@Sleephartha said:
How the heck is this fun for anyone but the killer? Its basically a free win game for Michael. I’d be ok with this if survivors had anything close. How about a suit of impenetrable armor ultrarare? One game where the survivor is unkillable. Or to be fair, one game where all 4 survivors are unkillable? What? The killer would leave because “whats the point? Its an unwinnable waste of time?” Exactly.Not really, it takes ages to collect enough juice
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@Jago said:
@Master said:
@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@Master said:
@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@Master said:
@Dwight_Fairfield said:
He's full of crap. Body blocking is not a bannable offense any more than camping is. Report him for harassment.Thats not harassment actually.
Also you should be aware that falsefy reporting can get you banned too (they said so at least if I remember correctly)
Constantly messaging him saying he's going to get him banned is harassment. No question about it.
We both know what "constantly messaging" means in such a case. And if he really did, then you simply quit the lobby and its over
Oh do tell. What does it mean? Why are you assuming he is messaging him in the lobby?
Because if he is not, then its not BHVRs buisness
@master @doowie There is no lobby chat on Ps4. It's all coming directly in your message box. Since you can report people for being rude / insulting, you can't report harassment based on the Dd report cause Sony don't care about this.
And as he forced to be manipulative with me and non-stop messaging about being banned, yes, I was starting to doubt, and that's why I posted my request here @BigBubs
Well if you dont tell us on which platform you play, then we can only guess.
On PS4 as you said they use the playstation social network to communicate, so its sonys responsibility and not BHVRs. BHVR is responsible for stuff that happens ingame, but if players use the platform to harass each other, then the platform owner has to take care (steam sony or microsoft)
There should be a block button btw, even on ps4 I think
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@The_Crusader said:
They should give us all jobs on the game. Can't be any worse than the people that implemented decisive strike and the old flashlight blinds.Shots fired
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Theoretically its bannable since it is not whitelisted (is there even a whitelist on console?) and you probably need a third party program for that.
However I highly doubt that this is sth you can detect
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Survivors are just skins, so I dont really care tbh
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@Master said:
@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@Master said:
@Dwight_Fairfield said:
He's full of crap. Body blocking is not a bannable offense any more than camping is. Report him for harassment.Thats not harassment actually.
Also you should be aware that falsefy reporting can get you banned too (they said so at least if I remember correctly)
Constantly messaging him saying he's going to get him banned is harassment. No question about it.
We both know what "constantly messaging" means in such a case. And if he really did, then you simply quit the lobby and its over
Oh do tell. What does it mean? Why are you assuming he is messaging him in the lobby?
Because if he is not, then its not BHVRs buisness
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@Master said:
@Dwight_Fairfield said:
He's full of crap. Body blocking is not a bannable offense any more than camping is. Report him for harassment.Thats not harassment actually.
Also you should be aware that falsefy reporting can get you banned too (they said so at least if I remember correctly)
Constantly messaging him saying he's going to get him banned is harassment. No question about it.
We both know what "constantly messaging" means in such a case. And if he really did, then you simply quit the lobby and its over
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@Poweas said:
@Master said:
@Poweas said:
He'd be stupidly overpowered. Nobody would even use the power for anything other then travelling or getting 1 hit on everyone. If they were even just a little bit faster, they'd be able to close the gap after using frenzy and taking the stun.I ask you one thing.
Do you believe that legion with 115% would be stronger than nurse? I doubt that personally
I never said he would. But if he had 115% ms then he'd outshine Hag, Billy and Spirit.
Then I dont see a problem with this
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Shows you how broken DS is
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@lakrits1337 said:
How come when a killer dcs 5 minutes into the game because he is bad I lose a rank point.And how come I can get some bars 5 games in a row but not rank up. I've never seen a more broken system in any game before.
Its just a visual bug, you dont actually lose the pip
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
He's full of crap. Body blocking is not a bannable offense any more than camping is. Report him for harassment.Thats not harassment actually.
Also you should be aware that falsefy reporting can get you banned too (they said so at least if I remember correctly)
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@Poweas said:
He'd be stupidly overpowered. Nobody would even use the power for anything other then travelling or getting 1 hit on everyone. If they were even just a little bit faster, they'd be able to close the gap after using frenzy and taking the stun.I ask you one thing.
Do you believe that legion with 115% would be stronger than nurse? I doubt that personally
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It would be broken if it was a normal perk.
In my opinion all hex perks need a rework btw, there must be some kind of benefit if it get cleansed
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@powerbats said:
@Master said:
It should be impossible to escape 3k hour guys who play this game as their living unless you are playing a SWF with 4 guys on the same level. Thats my opinion about this
3k hour people shouldn't be facing noobs just for easier games so they can brag about stomping said noobs. If you want to use that 3k hour example then they should only be playing against people with similar playtime.
Unfortunately the rank system has not been designed for that.
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@Orion said:
@Master said:
@Orion said:
@Master said:
@Orion said:
@Master said:
@Orion said:
Just have the filter automatically hold all comments containing any Chinese characters for review. Nobody else is using them.Every other language besides english is not allowed in general anyway, so I would suggest to automatically put threads in other languages up for a review
Not allowed? Since when?
Since the beginning, thats why we got other-language sections (which are not complete, I know)
It sounded like you just want to ban all languages besides English, which is both impossible to accomplish with an automated system and absurd.
Not bann, I suggested that they get put up for a review.
There is already a system doing that, scannign for specific words and holding back the thread until a mod takes a look at it. (or the forum might just be bugged, idk)
Here's the thing: there is no automated system in the world that can do that with any significant degree of precision, due to the prevalence of the Latin alphabet. That's not like blocking/identifying characters used exclusively in one language, such as what I suggested.
Google does a pretty good job with its free translation software, but of course they could take the approach to search for certain characters too
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@Orion said:
@Master said:
@Orion said:
@Master said:
@Orion said:
Just have the filter automatically hold all comments containing any Chinese characters for review. Nobody else is using them.Every other language besides english is not allowed in general anyway, so I would suggest to automatically put threads in other languages up for a review
Not allowed? Since when?
Since the beginning, thats why we got other-language sections (which are not complete, I know)
It sounded like you just want to ban all languages besides English, which is both impossible to accomplish with an automated system and absurd.
Not bann, I suggested that they get put up for a review.
There is already a system doing that, scannign for specific words and holding back the thread until a mod takes a look at it. (or the forum might just be bugged, idk)
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@Orion said:
@Master said:
@Orion said:
Just have the filter automatically hold all comments containing any Chinese characters for review. Nobody else is using them.Every other language besides english is not allowed in general anyway, so I would suggest to automatically put threads in other languages up for a review
Not allowed? Since when?
Since the beginning, thats why we got other-language sections (which are not complete, I know)
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@Cetren said:
Master said:@throoh27 said:
what would be the best way to do this ?
I recommend afking as freddy. You cant be bullied in the dreamworld, so the survivors will get bored eventually and leave. (The irony eh?
)Of course you can DC, but if you do that too often you will get punished, so thats probably not a good idea.
You can also try slugging everyone (not picking them up, bleeding out on floor), but thats not a guaranteed depip with the emblem system
This honestly. Fortunately or unfortunately, there's no great way to derank without a loss of time or risk being banned for DC.
Well you shouldnt be staring at the game if you derank by afking. Just do it while cooking, watching a movie or even playing a round of civilization
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@Vietfox said:
@Master said:
@Orion said:
Just have the filter automatically hold all comments containing any Chinese characters for review. Nobody else is using them.Every other language besides english is not allowed in general anyway, so I would suggest to automatically put threads in other languages up for a review
We are talking about characters, not languages.
Yes but the same thing could be applied for languages too, general chat is english only anyway
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@Gamzello said:
I'm the kind of person who doesn't like to hold up on my BPs like as soon as I get enough I usually spend it pretty quickly. But I feel like survivors don't get as much bps? Regularly about 19k or 23k at the most WITH offerings and if survivors didn't farm and actually survived. Dying in games as survivor you get like 9k or less regardless if you thought you did a lot of work.I feel like there should be more daily rituals at least or other ways to get more BPs other than constant farming of a few extra games.
I've literally stopped using offerings that include affects in-game like an extra chest or one less of a hook because it doesn't really do much of a difference. Someone WILL get hooked either way, and yeah there's extra stuff everywhere but still like? Idk. BPs are so much more better than a preference of how the match will be like despite the little affect EXPECT FOR FOGS. I kinda like them.
Anyways yeah, we totally need more daily rituals maybe separate ones or killers or survivors too so they don't mix up? Or picking a preference on which ones you would like more? Idk that would kinda be neat.
The mayor advantage of killers is BBQ.
On the other hand, killers lose their addons every game while survivors keep items+addons after an escape. Additionally they can even earn items ingame and escape with them.Also a lot of killers are addon dependent by design
And yes, there should be more quests, weekly rituals, maybe evne monthls ones. The daily ones are way too simple too
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@Orion said:
Just have the filter automatically hold all comments containing any Chinese characters for review. Nobody else is using them.Every other language besides english is not allowed in general anyway, so I would suggest to automatically put threads in other languages up for a review
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They are taking a well deserved break after breaking the game before holidays. Just BHVR things...
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@throoh27 said:
what would be the best way to do this ?I recommend afking as freddy. You cant be bullied in the dreamworld, so the survivors will get bored eventually and leave. (The irony eh?
)Of course you can DC, but if you do that too often you will get punished, so thats probably not a good idea.
You can also try slugging everyone (not picking them up, bleeding out on floor), but thats not a guaranteed depip with the emblem system
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@tempest said:
I translated their crazy posts, and they're all about advertising on cheap online degrees at a Chinese university. I don't see a way to report other users on their profile.Can you guys implement a captcha or something that'll clean up this mess?
No captcha, thx
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@xllxENIGMAxllx said:
I like how no mither is but i want a buff. Simply add a survival BP bonus and i'm happy.True, me too
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This is due to DS being a lot more frustrating (even if adrenaline can be frustrating too).
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@Kind_Lemon said:
@Vietfox said:
Just because someone uses DS and some veggie loses that survivor doesn't mean it's gamebreaking. It might be a guaranteed escaped if used when the gates are open, but that means that survivor didn't have to use it during the whole match.
I've destroyed several killer's momentum through DS and made them lose everything halfway through the match. Cheers to another year of unbalanced gameplay!
Shame on you..... stop abusing it pls, killers are humans too :sarcastic:
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@raquelambersantiago said:
@Master said:
@raquelambersantiago said:
This has probably already been posted a ton but I don't have time to sort through all the threads. However, when surivors dc, killer gets points, BUT when the killer dc's survivors get nothing...….Now the role is reversed and nothing is being done about it until the servers go live in Summer…..Not balanced when you do that.Lets get some real numbers:
all 4 survivor DC => Killer gets 2,5k BP and loses both offerings AND addons
killer DCs => EACH survivor gets 5k BP, loses offering AND KEEPS items+addonsI wish DCing would be punished so that we didnt even have to talk about this crap....... lets hope that they get their shiat together with dedicater srevers
Wait...are those suggested numbers> Cause yesterday I had 5 killers dc back to back at start and we were all messaging each other going well we all lost a lot and no bp for any of us....ANd we all lose our party streamers and we were not in SWF but we all became friends fast on steam...
Suggested numbers? Not sure what you mean, but thats how the situation is when the game is terminated in a proper way (esc, leave game). I know that there is this thing on console that happens when the ps4 app is closed, but thats a different story
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In 3vs1 I had one of my most enjoyable games
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Did they "nerf" huntress again?
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Better than what? PC? No
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@Orion said:
@Master said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
2016 was more funI second this, even if the game was really broken, survivors didnt abuse it (at least not against me that much^^)
Infinites?
Yeah they were part of the game, but they were not abused that heavily (in my games).
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
2016 was more funI second this, even if the game was really broken, survivors didnt abuse it (at least not against me that much^^)
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@AlwaysInAGoodShape said:
@Supernaut said:
If the cap were removed, I would play as Doctor and the games would never end.
Just saying...But how would you ever enjoy your treasury of blood-points if the game never ends?
Sounds like a double edged sword to me.
At some point the survivors DC and the game is over
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@RavendehGamerGril said:
Maybe if a killer is waiting by a hooked survivor, some penalty appears, immobilizing them for 10-15 seconds to give people a chance to escape?The devs already introduced a camping penalty even though they claimed that its a legit way to play the game (dev diary #3)
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@raquelambersantiago said:
This has probably already been posted a ton but I don't have time to sort through all the threads. However, when surivors dc, killer gets points, BUT when the killer dc's survivors get nothing...….Now the role is reversed and nothing is being done about it until the servers go live in Summer…..Not balanced when you do that.Lets get some real numbers:
all 4 survivor DC => Killer gets 2,5k BP and loses both offerings AND addons
killer DCs => EACH survivor gets 5k BP, loses offering AND KEEPS items+addonsI wish DCing would be punished so that we didnt even have to talk about this crap....... lets hope that they get their shiat together with dedicater srevers
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BHVR has never managed to ge the kick thing going properly
Just watch this video, a pretty good example for this problem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R98e-Y4Lu8wa lil after 1:40
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@ad19970 said:
@Sinner said:
You make some good points, but personally I wouldn't start working on anything until I'd fix the stupid ranking system, which, I've said so many times, should revolve around chases. What's the point of any balance, if your teammates or the killer are at the wrong rank. This has always been the biggest problem of this game. People at ranks where they don't belong.
Right now if the killer chases you whole match, you don't pip. Killer comes and complains on the forum that he is rank 1 and can't catch anyone, than the devs implement unrealistic changes. Meanwhile there are killers like truetalent that it's impossible to escape from, no matter what killer he plays. Yes, big surprise, he is not the only one, he is not Jesus. Go play survivor at rank 1 if you don't believe me.
Meanwhile, there's survivors with urban evasion and empathy, they do gens, chase injured players around the map to heal them to get emblem points, they reach rank 1, can't even drop a pallet or do a proper loop, get hooked and disconnect, [BAD WORD] the whole team over.
Until they fix the ranking system to be about chases and nothing else, there's no point to discuss any balance.Edit: today I had 2 matches at rank 1 vs killers that couldn't get a hook whole match, but they ended up sacrificing 2 survivors and pip because they had noed. Do they belong at rank1? No! Do they think survivors are op? [BAD WORD] yeah!
Yeah you've got a point there actually. The ranking system needs some serious work. Maybe even before they can properly balance the game. And I wouldn't say it's impossible to escape tru3ta1ent, but it's very hard and it shows that killers don't need any more buffs at the moment, no matter what some people say.
It should be impossible to escape 3k hour guys who play this game as their living unless you are playing a SWF with 4 guys on the same level. Thats my opinion about this
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BHVR style
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@ReneAensland said:
I haven't played this map all day, I've been getting pure Autohaven and Lery's, out of my 12 games today the new stupid map comes up and THIS happens.Nice to see a 1.5GIG update to my PlayStation that did absolutely nothing but prevent people from spawning at the new map again.
I cannot stand this map, it's had a bad reputation since it launched, you took it and "fixed it." Well buddy....it's still acting up.
On top of that, the killer was a try hard [BAD WORD] with a Mori, so thanks for the depip.Whoever had the genius idea of spawning less generators with a few people deserves a pat in the back for being biggest troll, only second to our President.
clap
clapSo you want to do 5 gens instead? Did I understand that correctly?
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They should change it into a meaningful action, similar to snapping out.
https://youtu.be/AY8KppNiXVE