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@FURIOUS said:
It is already difficult to save with the flashlight and you developers besides nerf the flashlights and their addons that was formerly blindness from what I have seen in several videos, you have reduced the time in which the killer takes the survivor from 4.3 seconds to 3.0 seconds, changed the animations when the killer takes the survivor 2 or more times in the previous updates and this only makes it harder for a possible rescue with the flashlight.
How many hooks and pallets do you have per map? The hooks if removed come back in 3 minutes, but what about the pallets? Not! If a survivor drops a lot of pallets before they fall, when the killer chases another probably will not have more pallets or if they have been away from you.
Those unsafe pallets with opening in side construction are hit free for the killer. If the killer puts you on the hook and decides to camper and tunnel, you probably will not survive because the game is currently more favorable for the killers and their powers, the hitboxes are broken, on the other side of the pallet or window you take the same hit with the green ping this should not happen.
Hunter hitting a hatchet in the air and picks up the hit on the survivor, the nurse is the same, except that the nurse with her teleporting powers is unbalanced, you must know how to play, but even if you play against a The guy who knows how to play a nurse game is fast, especially if the guy is using the advantage of ruining.
It's not enough just this, you've given nerf to loops, pallets, generators, in fact, in several things, I see more nerf for survivors than for killers, now the question I ask of all of you who are reading this post is , is the game balanced? I like to play this game, but, we need to talk about it.It used to be difficult to flashlight save for a few weeks, now its easy AF again.
No survivor liked the slugging meta (probably way before you started palying), so the devs added more hooks to the map and nerfed sabotaging.
Am I understanding correctly taht you want every pallet to be safe?
Not really sure what you are talking about in the end, dont drink and text
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@Delfador said:
DS is balanced when a bad survivor uses it.
DS is unbalanced when a good survivor uses it.
There is not a single perk that is worse than DS in the entire game.
That single use is more than enough btw.Usually one only talks about balance when "somehow competent" players are playing the game because it would be absurd to balance a game around a beginner.......
Also Id like to point out that moris can only be used once too on a surivor and reduce a life
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@PolarBear said:
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@Ihatelife said:
@PolarBear said:
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@Ihatelife said:
Run away if you hear their terror radius.That's not a counter though, if you're working on a gen you can't know where legion is coming from and if you run he/she can still chase after you and tunnel you down with feral frenzy
@Master said:
Legion has a counter, its called spreading and genrushing.
Sure its not fun, but its actually pretty easy to executeThat's not a counter, "genrushing" isn't a thing. "Genrushing" is just survivors doing the objective if the killer can't keep pressure on the survivors. Also with them buffing legion means you need to heal but since you can't be near teammates, you need to run self-care which means there is less choice for perks.
SC was buffed btw
It wasn't a buff, it was a change. If killers are using sloppy butcher and you are using SC, you can just give up at that point.
That's why I use BK
So that would mean I should use both SC and BK and limit my choice of perks some more? I don't see the point in limiting player choice. Do you really have 4 perk slots when 2 of those always have to be SC and BK?
Survivors are not tired of pointing at all the killer perks the killre can use to counter stuff. For example you can "counter" DS easily by using unnerving presence and Enduring
Idk what you are trying to say in your first sentence. Using 2 perks to counter 1 isn't really good for the killers side either, but thankfully you can dribble or just slug the obsession if you don't want to deal with ds at that moment in the game.
YOu can only dribble if you are near a hook and even if you are within range, the DS user can simply tell his mate that you are dribbling and thanks to the absurdly long drop/pickup animation can bodyblock the hook easily, triggering DS.
Slugging has been nerfed significantly, the survivor can heal themselves even up to 95% now which makes the pickup time from the ground THREE TIMES FASTER than it used to. Also slugging (even with knock out) doesnt work against SWF
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Seems like you use facecamping in the terminology "hard camping". Thats fine, but you should know that facecamping used to be the terminology that the killer moves himself in the hitbox of the hooked survivor and thus disables all other survivors from getting an unhook attemp, just to avoid confusion......
A killer comitting to "facecamping" surenders the game, the remaining 3 survivors can simply knock out all gens and leave the game. If you dont wanna do that and throw yourself against the camping killer, then thats your decision
Regarding your suggestion:
First of all, define "near a hooked survivor".
Second of all the chsae detection is completely broken and is thus a really bad condition for such a mechanic. For example at the tree loop in the corn, you lose chase over and over again even though you are running after a survivor within a few meters.By the way, the first PTB featured anti camping mechanics, but survivors abused the ######### out of it such that the devs had to drop this idea.
You say genrush isnt a thing, just a survivor doing his objective, but isnt a camping killer doing his objective too? :sarcastic:
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@Faceless said:
Decisive strike is balanced by the fact that it can only be used once per game.Only this fact, and the fact that there is a hook per square meter in that game, makes the DS balanced. I do not understand why the main killer cries so much for this perk. And you can still put the survivor on the floor, to '' bug '' DS.
If the DS changes, I want you to nerf Noed too, removing the killer's additional speed. This is tense, you try the whole match for the final killer who did nothing in the match get extremely fast and bring down on a hit.
So noed and DS is balanced and have counter. Don't need changes. They are two perks that benefit enough killer and survivor
How do you counter DS? Just curious...... asking for a bad killer friend
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@se05239 said:
@Master said:
@Dead_by_David said:
I do not think they should be able to give up when ever they want, this will be abused. It should give the option a certain amount of time after gates open though.Abused in what way?
Survivors would have less fun being dicks to killers.
I see
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@PolarBear said:
@Ihatelife said:
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@Master said:
@PolarBear said:
@Ihatelife said:
Run away if you hear their terror radius.That's not a counter though, if you're working on a gen you can't know where legion is coming from and if you run he/she can still chase after you and tunnel you down with feral frenzy
@Master said:
Legion has a counter, its called spreading and genrushing.
Sure its not fun, but its actually pretty easy to executeThat's not a counter, "genrushing" isn't a thing. "Genrushing" is just survivors doing the objective if the killer can't keep pressure on the survivors. Also with them buffing legion means you need to heal but since you can't be near teammates, you need to run self-care which means there is less choice for perks.
SC was buffed btw
It wasn't a buff, it was a change. If killers are using sloppy butcher and you are using SC, you can just give up at that point.
That's why I use BK
So that would mean I should use both SC and BK and limit my choice of perks some more? I don't see the point in limiting player choice. Do you really have 4 perk slots when 2 of those always have to be SC and BK?
Survivors are not tired of pointing at all the killer perks the killre can use to counter stuff. For example you can "counter" DS easily by using unnerving presence and Enduring
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@PolarBear said:
@Master said:
@PolarBear said:
@Ihatelife said:
Run away if you hear their terror radius.That's not a counter though, if you're working on a gen you can't know where legion is coming from and if you run he/she can still chase after you and tunnel you down with feral frenzy
@Master said:
Legion has a counter, its called spreading and genrushing.
Sure its not fun, but its actually pretty easy to executeThat's not a counter, "genrushing" isn't a thing. "Genrushing" is just survivors doing the objective if the killer can't keep pressure on the survivors. Also with them buffing legion means you need to heal but since you can't be near teammates, you need to run self-care which means there is less choice for perks.
SC was buffed btw
It wasn't a buff, it was a change. If killers are using sloppy butcher and you are using SC, you can just give up at that point.
We are talking about survivors spreading and healing with SC, of course SC was buffed in this situation
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@PolarBear said:
@Ihatelife said:
Run away if you hear their terror radius.That's not a counter though, if you're working on a gen you can't know where legion is coming from and if you run he/she can still chase after you and tunnel you down with feral frenzy
@Master said:
Legion has a counter, its called spreading and genrushing.
Sure its not fun, but its actually pretty easy to executeThat's not a counter, "genrushing" isn't a thing. "Genrushing" is just survivors doing the objective if the killer can't keep pressure on the survivors. Also with them buffing legion means you need to heal but since you can't be near teammates, you need to run self-care which means there is less choice for perks.
SC was buffed btw
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@Dead_by_David said:
@Master said:
@Dead_by_David said:
I do not think they should be able to give up when ever they want, this will be abused. It should give the option a certain amount of time after gates open though.Abused in what way?
I can see people quiting straight away if totems are found or they get a map they do not like and maybe just to annoy people. I am not saying everyone will do this and I do think that there should be an end game quit button once the doors are open as the end game is rubbish as a killer.
People can already do that right now because DCing isnt punished properly, so thats not a reason against a concede option
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@LegitAdventurer said:
"Noo how dare you counter my counterless perk. Ugh I'm quitting"HE ragequitted because he missed the skillcheck btw
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@Peanits said:
Master said:@Unnamed_Freak said:
Actually you can get banned by disconnecting, but at the moment it's only available on PC. The devs are trying to implement the system on console.
Yes if you have an absurd high rate CONSISTENTLY over a big time period.
But if you only ragequit every game you are "tunneled" (i.e. every 4th assuming all survivors are as toxic as you), then you are fine
It's not as absurdly high as you might think. The exact number is not out there, but disconnecting from a quarter of your games is a bad move.
Going back to the original post, we do punish excessive disconnecting on PC currently and will be doing the same on consoles as soon as we are able to. We are currently in the process of extending our ban system to the console versions of the game and hope to have them available soon.
My point still holds, one of your fogstreamer used to derank by DCing (still does it? not sure) and has not received a bann till today afaik.
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@TwistedRusty said:
LegitAdventurer said:
TwistedRusty said:Well, that depends, because I had to catch myself from quitting. If they were hooked 2 times and ongoing to three, I wouldn't blame them for leaving. Why watch what you already know is gonna happen? Or what if their internet is acting dumb? Or what if they had to go? Or what if someone unplugged their ps4? There's more to it than just a "rage quitter".
You should blame them for leaving. Why, when you know whats going to happen? Not only are there hundreds of scenarios, from wiggling out, teamates body blocking, teamates with flashlights or fire crackers, to simply just wasting the killers time, actually having to pick you up off the ground, walking you to a hook and hanging you. Precious time your teamates have. Every second in this game counts. It also basically steals points from the killer, which is just rude tbh.
They get a quitter bonus.
All 4 survivors DC, you get 2,5k YES 2500 BLOODPOINTS for compensation AND lose ALL addons + the offering
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@LegitAdventurer said:
Unnamed_Freak said:Actually you can get banned by disconnecting, but at the moment it's only available on PC. The devs are trying to implement the system on console.
We NEED this. I don't camp and generally try not too tunnel as killer but people still quit constantly. Get downed to early? Disconnect. Get downed for last hook? Disconnect. Get chased and hit? Disconnect. And as survivor, killers quit constantly. Destroy their ruin? Disconnect. Do more than 2 gens? Disconnect. Can't catch a survivor? Disconnect.
I'm honestly appalled by the amount of try hard babies on this game lol
As a PC player I can tell you that no PC player is scared to DC; the current system is a joke
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@Dead_by_David said:
I do not think they should be able to give up when ever they want, this will be abused. It should give the option a certain amount of time after gates open though.Abused in what way?
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Legion has a counter, its called spreading and genrushing.
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@weirdkid5 said:
Poweas said:@weirdkid5 said:
Solo players don't need more tools than they already have. With the myriad of perks in the game, one would think buffing the less popular perks would be better rather than buffing the perk that is already most picked.
Solo survivor doesn't need more tools? They have no chance against an ideal killer (Billy, Hag and Spirit. The rest are weak or OP).
Play solo survivor and play SWF and see the difference, sunshine.
Fam I've been playing the game since Day 1 and I've played to Rank 1 Solo without any perks or items. It isn't hard to be good at this game dawg.
Not as long as the rank system is such a joke, yeah......
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@Poweas said:
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@Poweas said:
@MandyTalk can you please close this post. This will 100% cause a lot of arguements.ARguments is what this forum is about
True. But this one will cause major salt from survivor and killer mains alike.
Isnt major salt always auto-included when playing or talkign about DBD?
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@Poweas said:
@MandyTalk can you please close this post. This will 100% cause a lot of arguements.ARguments is what this forum is about
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@IronWolf115 said:
So I have been playing Trapper a lot recently and I enjoy playing him, but I think there are some issues with him. One of the biggest for me though is that he is, to my knowledge, the ONLY killer in the game that can be negatively hit by his own power.Now beyond just convenience of him not getting caught by his own traps, I think this buff would open up more mindgames for the Trapper. For example, imagine that you are chasing a survivor and they head for a loop, you have a trap placed around that loop. As it is right now you have to walk around your trap and so the survivor might be able to catch on to the fact that there is one there, but with the buff you would be able to walk right through it and they might not be any the wiser and then will get caught by it on their way around.
Plus even if the survivor did know the trap was there, they would still have to avoid it while you can go straight through and you might catch them sooner on the loop.
I think Trapper needs some love and I think this would go a long way to helping him.
Trapper needs a complete rework.
It cant be real that survivors can fit beside your trap but if you take the same pathing, you screw yourself. That and SWF killed trapper for me tbh -
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Don't get me wrong, a lot of changes are good and I know that the devs had holidays.
I'm just stating out that the PTB should have much more changes because with this speed it takes to long till we fix major issues. I expected the following:- Trapper setting up traps without picking them up first
- Endgame rework with hatch, especially the idea one of the devs explained in a live stream
- farm maps rework (see this for details: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/40510/farm-maps-need-rework#latest)
- Legion counterplay (for example: getting stunned if he misses a frenzy attack)
- obviously DS rework
- obviously freddy rework
What did we get...... a vault buff.... nice
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@Raccoon said:
It seems pretty ridiculous, given that windows are already very powerful, particularly shack/double windows.I may be jumping the gun, but this seems like a huge nerf to most M1 killers.
Buff looping => more camping
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@slipttees said:
Why PTB only on PC?Because sony and mircosoft have no easy tools to provide test builds while steam supports that.
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@Rex_Huin said:
And number 6 unlocked the other one?What would happen?
Interesting, definitely interesting
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@Orion said:
[insert obligatory "face camping doesn't exist any more" here]Camping is counterable. If the Killer camps and ends up with more than one kill, that's on the Survivors who fed him.
You dont need to coutner camping
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@GroundZero said:
24 games done, in 12 games the killer would hang someone and just stand there within ONE METER and camp till he was dead. Then get the next and so on.I know it is allowed but come on developers... ZERO BALANCE in this game.
The time for people to repair the generators in time (all 5) when the killer camps people is almost null. Best situation there is ONE survivor who can escape.
Either de-buff the killer big time when he camps someone so it is easier to rescue someone, or punish the ######### with zero spirit for "fair & fun gaming" by boosting the survivors.
Other then that, great game but a serious lack of content (I mean base game content, stop pushing out DLC's that should have been part of the base game) and please, for the love of god upgrade the graphics or let us use the Steam workshop to make a mod for better graphics because the graphics look like a game that was released 10 years ago.
A single generator takes 80 seconds. Camping a single survivor takes 2 minutes.
DO the math
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@Milo said:
Okay then?
But how does that work on WhispersCant even remember the last time ive seen whispers tbh
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@mgs2020 said:
@Master said:
@mgs2020 said:
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@mgs2020 said:
@bloxe said:
mgs2020 said:Why are killers so against the hatch mechanic and 1 survivor having a chance to escape? I don't get it.
Because IT PUNISHES FOR BEING A GOOD KILLER. Its hard to understand??
And if youre with 4 randoms and you are an amazing survivor but they do nothing that survivor is still punished Youre more team dependent as a survivor.
You should not be able to do well in a teamgame if your team is horrible, just my opinion though
So the killer has complete control. If killer is good and the survivor is great but has 3 crap teammates he is still punished and killer is rewarded. That doesn't make sense. Hence the hatch mechanic. If you go to the other thread I accidentally made on the same subject, someone else made a great suggestion IMO for the hatch mechanic fix.
Yes thats how it supposed to be in a teamgame.
Because it cant be real that the killer only has control if the survivors are badBut giving one person the chance at escape only if the survivors due ok and get atleast 2 gens done isn't taking control away from the killer. Its giving a potential reward for survivors not being terrible. If the escape mechanic for 1 didn't exist this game would have %60 or higher games where the killer gets a 4k, survivors all get 10k or less bp and killer ends up with 30k or close to. I feel the hatch mechanic could use some tweaking for preventing stand offs and long drawn out games because of slugging which is what I'm suggesting however the removal of the mechanic where 1 survivor gets the potential chance to escape would result in a major drop in players forsure.
Yeah yeah major player drop..... that kind of guy you are, I see
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@mgs2020 said:
@Master said:
@mgs2020 said:
@bloxe said:
mgs2020 said:Why are killers so against the hatch mechanic and 1 survivor having a chance to escape? I don't get it.
Because IT PUNISHES FOR BEING A GOOD KILLER. Its hard to understand??
And if youre with 4 randoms and you are an amazing survivor but they do nothing that survivor is still punished Youre more team dependent as a survivor.
You should not be able to do well in a teamgame if your team is horrible, just my opinion though
So the killer has complete control. If killer is good and the survivor is great but has 3 crap teammates he is still punished and killer is rewarded. That doesn't make sense. Hence the hatch mechanic. If you go to the other thread I accidentally made on the same subject, someone else made a great suggestion IMO for the hatch mechanic fix.
Yes thats how it supposed to be in a teamgame.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@ShowMeUrBirb said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
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@MegChicken said:
Just a heads up, some Pig player is trapping players in the basement and is stalling the game until players leave the game.He’s done this 3 times after I blocked him, luckily I managed to recognize him and his playstyle.
There is nothign wrong with that, maybe doing an achievment or sth
yea the achievement for taking the game hostage and forcing DC? I love watching you guys justify basement blocking survivors in, my fav.
There is nothing you need to justify, its allowed behaviour and you cant be banned for that
Blocking survivors in basement untill they DC is holding the game hostage and is bannable offense.
Edit: A wordNot if there is a timer running (like the rbt)
none of this was mentioned in the post, do you always add things to arguments to make your side seem more reasonable?
I still can't believe you try and justify this play style, it's a joke, it's taking the game hostage. Stop trying to make it seem like a fair thing to do.
from the OP:
"Just a heads up, some Pig player is trapping players in the basement and is stalling the game until players leave the game. "
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@UncleBughy said:
I would like to know if you can buff the wiggle off timer to 10-12 seconds instead of 15 seconds? I think it will reduce from the saltyness of the survivor player base and will be a good adition to the game. It is stupid to be able to carry a survivor on the shoulder for 16.8 seconds if you have iron grasp guys. I just have some games that were very (and I mean VERY unpleasant) because of the wiggle mechanic.
PS: It is not necessary to buff the base wiggle timer (even tho it would be nice) you can try to rework the Boil Over perk to be a perfect counter for iron grasp (75% wiggle effects and 12% reduced time to wiggle off instead of the distorsion of the hooks that are in the proximity)
Please consider this opinion or at least explain to me why you cant buff it (if it is not possible to be buffed)I would like to ask you one question.
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@Morfedel said:
So, from what I understand, when you prestige, you are starting out your character from scratch, with the exceptions that you get a bloody piece of your cosmetics, and... improved bloodweb results?I'm trying to determine if its really worth it. I don't care about the cosmetics. Some from the store I like more. What I care about is, if, in the long run, it's going to be giving me better blood web results? Its frustrating when a character I have is level 49 and I'm getting mostly crap on the blood web.
Also, how does it effect teachables? Do I have to relearn the teachables from the main character to make it re-available to everyone else?
Anyway, other questions aside, and ignoring cosmetics, is prestige characters worth it in the long run?
Not really, unless you really want the prestige cosmetic^^
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@Boss said:
How would people feel if the Doctor would be able to prevent Survivors from using the hatch if they're in Madness III?
This is not a suggestion btw, just wonder what everyone's mindset is on this. (I like making stuff up.)The hatch needs a rework in general
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@ShowMeUrBirb said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@MegChicken said:
Just a heads up, some Pig player is trapping players in the basement and is stalling the game until players leave the game.He’s done this 3 times after I blocked him, luckily I managed to recognize him and his playstyle.
There is nothign wrong with that, maybe doing an achievment or sth
yea the achievement for taking the game hostage and forcing DC? I love watching you guys justify basement blocking survivors in, my fav.
There is nothing you need to justify, its allowed behaviour and you cant be banned for that
Blocking survivors in basement untill they DC is holding the game hostage and is bannable offense.
Edit: A wordNot if there is a timer running (like the rbt)
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Those are some pretty hefty changes
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@fluffybunny said:
@Master said:
@fluffybunny said:
It's weird when someone with a lot of skill and a lot of hours magically end up never leaving rank 20.
I know someone who admitted they cheated to achieve that. Is there any way to detect such things?I heard of a way to set your rank from 1 to 20 on console, not sure if its still possible though
Someone I used to play told me he did that. He told another friend to not d/c and just cheat, but surely there has to be something that can be done to detect such things. It ruins the experience for newbie killers.
Cheating can get your account instantly perma banned while DCing will only get you a short bann after you reached an absurd,stable high DC rate.
Honestly, ruin the experience of all the newbi killers. At some point they will realize that they cant play without killers^^
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@Timo425 said:
Just give WGLF stack even if you are not the one doing the saving but are just in close proximity of the save. Also why not make We'll make it part of WGLF?Also why not make ruin part of BBQ?
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@se05239 said:
@Mister_xD said:
clown is alrready a strong killer, i dont know how much of these buffs he could take without being broken... and if the gas was really going to force slow vaults, that would be pretty op imo...
i still like all of these ideas!Ironically, most games I have against clown ends up with him getting 1 to maybe 2 kills.
I don't deny that he's strong, its just that he's easily punished if he cannot keep his momentum up.Clown is a killer built to counter looping, but he cant properly counter it with his gas. Thats his problem.
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
I feel like these 3 Killer could use some buffs, i chose these 3 because i feel like small changes for those 3 would make them a LOT better. Trapper:-Starts with 2 Bear Traps, one Bear Trap is removed from the map to compensate.(Buff)
-The ability to quickly reset disarmed Traps on the ground. (QoL)
-Escaping Traps is now a fixed channel, affected by perks and addons.
(QoL, i think that affects both sides positively) Wraith:-Increase the Speed Burst to 1.5 seconds OR increase the Uncloak movement speed to the point where he can consistantly get close hits in the open with his speed burst after uncloaking (Buff).
-Is now completely invisible outside of 32m range (Buff / Affects SWF the most). Clown:
Travel speed of bottles increased
(Many maps are painful for him because of slow travel, especially when multiple options or a lot of cover is involved)Movement slowdown and attack cooldown upon throwing is removed.
-Gas now affects pallet vaults
- Red Stain is removed while intoxicated or the Clown is within the gas himself.
Trapper sure, but he will still be trash after that
Wraith, interesting
Clown, yes to everything except the pallet slow vault. First of all such an animation doesnt exist yet (too much effort for BHVR lul) and 2nd it would be too strong probably. The other stuff is fine though
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@fluffybunny said:
It's weird when someone with a lot of skill and a lot of hours magically end up never leaving rank 20.
I know someone who admitted they cheated to achieve that. Is there any way to detect such things?I heard of a way to set your rank from 1 to 20 on console, not sure if its still possible though
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@Demoth said:
@ThirdSealOPplzNerf said:
Hahaha docter op sure.Did you even read what I wrote?
Doctor is weak without addons. He becomes insanely strong with very rare addons, and the right perk build to accompany it. The fact he needs addons to not get ######### on by survivors is a huge problem with how a lot of the killers have been balanced.
Both doc and spirit are not even close to nurse, even with best addons. Thus they are not too strong
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@DarkGGhost said:
@asanandic said:
@DarkGGhost said:
sorry mate the devs make it so that work that way.I mean there can be a balance for it i think. Dont you agree with my point tho?
well it's a form counter play and the survivors are the "week" in this game so i don't think that will change any time soon and yes i think you should be able to move your head
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@asanandic said:
Hello all,As a new player (52hrs in game) The SWF groups are really taking all the fun out of the game. I am still learning that is granted but getting 4 generators under 2 minutes is making any learning or Blood point gain impossible. On top of all they are clearly using voice comm so if I am chasing some one they all know it.
Just we need an option in game for killers below rank 5 to chose to accept SWF groups in the loby or not
If they manage to do 4 gens in 2 minutes, then you are doing sth wrong. It should only be possible to get 3 done by the 2 min mark. (Its sad I know)
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@sorrowen said:
Legion is in a particularly special buff position as they can easily be over powered. However you under buff them and they will remain pretty trash. But legion also busts the game so I don’t know but whichever part of the dev team made Legion should stay far,far away from making killers.P.S. I don’t wanna hear anymore well just play nurse and hillbilly if you wanna win in dev streams If that is the excuse for making a killer like Legion I don’t wanna hear it. Sure don’t win just make both survivor and killer bored as hell which Legion does.
Its just bad design, he needs a rework almost as desperately as freddy
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@Drearystate said:
I understand that as with most games you would want the game to be balanced and everyone treated fairly. This does not occur when survivors are tunneled or camped. Anyone that disagrees with this can see the lack of rational thought in a survivor getting hooked and being camped and tunneled to the point where they only get 3k of bp and lose a PIP or even worse. In the higher ranks of this game you think you would see more skill, instead you see more campers and more tunneling, which in turn requires survivors to equip more stealth perks just to balance out that part of the match which then hinders the ability to have other perks that may help with generators or healing or even simply escaping. Theres simple solutions to these issues, create a perk or just a part of the game where if the killer remains within a certain distance of a occupied hook without giving chase to another survivor he is stunned for a duration or blinded for a duration. Or if he has remained in the vicinity of a occupied hook when that survivor has been rescued he is then stunned or blinded. Tunneling is primarily the same hook issue, if a killer chooses to only hook a certain person over and over it wouldnt matter if the previous solution was implemented. Everyones issue is simple, we dont wait 4 minutes to jump into a game we may not get the chance to enjoy and may end in another 4 minutes. Issues like this put this game in a easy 2nd place to any other new games that come out with similar gameplay and I for one can't wait to see another company do it better and actually listen to their audience.Camping = Killer securing a single kill and donating a free escape to the 3 remaning survivors
Tunneling = Killer doing his objective efficiently, just like survivors dont stop repairing after reachign 66%
Also its not the killers buisness to give you a pip or BP.
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@BlackendSea said:
On ps4, a full swf squad takes literally an hour. If killers don’t like swf, just bring mori’s. I don’t see the big deal.Moris are quite expensive, considering how common SWF its impossible to have a mori ready for every SWF
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@LegitAdventurer said:
I'm sorry but if you think communicating with your team is cheating thats just incorrect. Thats like saying call of duty with friends is cheating if the other team isnt using mics. Or Overwatch, or Friday the 13th etc.
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Rebel_Raven said:
Lmao Yeah, no. If you use chat outside the game, you're basically cheating, and people don't like being cheated.
We don't know if you are until we're in the game, but most SWFs do use outside help.
So why on earth should we have to roll the dice on if we're going to get cheated out of a fair game when odds are you are going to cheat us?
What's in it for us? Why should we have to put up with a difficulty spike?
It's getting to the point where I have to roll the dice on if a SWF is going to be filled with #########, sweaty tryhards, and/or people using outside chat. And don't get me started on mixed rank SWFs where you aren't even the same color in rank, and letting the higher rank prey on lower rank killers. I'm not saying you and your homies pull the bullshit I mentioned, but too many others do to instantly have the trust of the killers that dodge you. We care about your wait times about as much as SWF cares about the fun of a killer, and that's slim to none. We can agree to disagree. How is chatting with your team cheating? Lol most everything in this game is discernable with or without outside chat. As someone who plays both killer and survivor, i don't have much of a differenc playing against randoms than I do playing against SWF.
And yeah sweaty tea bagging try hards are annoying to fight but oh so much more satisfying when you down and kill them. Plus, whats the point in pub stomping randoms? Id much rather get better at the game and play against talented, coordinated players. Makes the game much more fun than just, say walking all over easy noobs.
Well technically you are using a third party program (ts/discord) to gain an ingame advantage. Yeah yeah you wont get banned, but you know what we mean.. Fact is that playing against SWF usually is quite unfun, either they genrush you ala depip squad or they throw each other at the hook while clickin at you ala ochido-gang.....
Throwing at the hook can be countered, honestly, i love when survivors do that to me. Easy damage, yeah i lose a hook but i also just gained a huge advantage. And as a survivor I body block hooks wether I'm solo queuing or SWF. I'm not claiming to be the best killer, or survivor around. Suffice to say I'm just pretty causal player but playing solo queue vs playing with teams I play the game exactly the same as I would with randoms than I do SWF's. I dont need to hear "killers on me" to notice that the killer is chasing someone. Especially with so many potential sensory perks on the survivors.
Yes, but even if I 4k such a SWF with ease, I still dont enjoy the game. And fun is what its all about, you cant play DBD competitively.....
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Soon TM (maybe autum?)
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@JawsIsTheNextKiller said:
I've seen a couple of these Killers just stood swinging and swinging. I don't get it. What does the swinging do?Survivors will run into you to farm BP, this way you farm BP too without any effort^^
