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Naw I respect his thoughts as they tend to make more sense then most
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@Bryan said:
IMO, there are 3 type of Legions players.
1) "Normal Legion"-The one that the devs were thinking all would play like, hit 1 or 2 different people with his power at most and chase a person like a normal M1 killer. These are the players that get rip-apart, gen rush and call him the weakest killer in the game. (by this playstyle, the Legion is)2) "Break Chase/Moonwalk Legion"-They look down, up or turn around players and walk backwards. They will hit you 1 or 2 times in his power but follow the blood/marks until they get close to hit you normally or until your bar goes down. Try to mend? Sorry he will walk into you and hit you with normal M1 if you do that. Stay by pallets, windows when mending? Will not manner, Legion will just break/hop over and resume the "fake" chase.
3) "Tunneling Legion"-The Tunnel Legion players that will like most Legions, respect pallets but more then normal, use the power to vault over pallets and stuff and if you try to loop (abuse his respect by looping the same pallet again) with go to what I said about the "Break Chase Legion" or will in the middle of the loop active the power when you are on the other side of the pallet so they can hit you with his power to down you and you cant get back to the pallet in time. His addon "Frank's Mixtap" makes the tunnel take less time to do this annoying unfun method. I do see gens getting done with tunneling Legions but the person being chase will go down and you just take turns on the hook until you all go down or have a team that does gens and some get out. But how fun of a match is that? The chase is a post to be the best part of the game but others will tell you facing this Legion, they would rather sit on gens. How fast you will go down is by just how well the tunnel Legion is timing his power to active on a loop.
There is always a problem with killers for rank 16-20s vs rank 1-8s ect, makes Legion the most annoying unfun on both sides and brain dead killer. I don't think I ever seen a killer that can be called weak but broken at the same time. But it happened. He needs a bad rework. His power in a way needs to be redone all together like Freddy. How to get into/get out of chases needs a rework as well Go to more popular DBD Youtubers/Twitch Streamers (and they will tell you he unfun, broken and boring killer to play/face.) It all comes down to how good is the player and playstyle. That is what it comes down to. Overall, the power is the center of the problem. If this stays how it is I bet Legion wins one time on Xbox or PS4 next DBD tournament. PC will still be Nurse. RIP the Billy players

O.o just cause someone’s popular doesn’t mean what they say means anything thou... and they don’t speak for me.
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@purebalance said:
No it is 0 bp. Hence the exploit. Read the damn thread. I'm not going to say how they're doing it since I got a warning for doing that, but they are doing it by doing something other than normally leaving the match. It's 0 bp.
Is this your first multiplayer game?
Record a video of it and everyone will see your point.
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@PiiFree said:
We all miss the LOLs
+1 lol for u pilfree. U do make funny comments =p
So be happy man
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Does it thou? Ever think it’s just trying to make the game fair for everyone else?
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Don’t we all want dedicated servers?
I’d say we agree on that lol
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So umm why respect the 4%?
Honestly what’s the story behind that?
Also I get told things that isn’t respectful a few time a day at least.
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I get ya. Remember thou the next killer could be awesome for killing. After legion that is. Also the devs see this as splatoon and not black ops
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Yay

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You know I came up with a honestly fair way and no one even replied to it....
1 when a key is brought into a match hatch spawns as normal. Or when found it spawns as normal so keys can still be a thing.
2 hatch only spawns when the the 3rd person is removed from the game. With 2 gens done
3 at that point the survivor gets the exposed status
4 survivor uses stealth and skill looking for hatch.
5 as a killer do your job and find that last survivor turn off audio of hatch for killer
6 if a survivor camps the hatch longer then 5 seconds it closes making 3 gens to be done before u can exit
7 if killer camps for longer then 5 seconds grab is disabled and hatch and killer is show to the survivor for 10 seconds. -
I use if I need to kill someone for daily. Or if I just have a bad day lol also

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Umm how about his black box add on with dying light with a mori and any other 3 perks that suit u.
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I don't get why people are so upset... Just don't play him if no one plays him then fun or viability won't matter.
I'll stick to my predator style killer ty -
But yea u all cry over 2 mins go camp something for 16 hours and then tell me 2 mins is honestly comparable.
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@ReneAensland said:
You can try to justify your camping all you want but,
If you camp, you're [BAD WORD] trash.@ReneAensland said:
@Laddy said:
@ReneAensland said:
@Laddy said:
@ReneAensland said:
You can try to justify your camping all you want but,
If you camp, you're [BAD WORD] trash.Exactly the type of snarky attitude that most survivors have. Nothing you said was a constructive rebuttal of my OP. Deep down you know I'm right.
I'm not a survivor.
I. Am. Not. A. Survivor.
I'm a killer, I'm a casual survivor.I'm a Killer main.
Then you have been letting the opinions of others sway the way you play your game. I still have not heard a constructive rebuttal to my OP.
No one influences how I play, I'm a hunter not a camper.
I do not need to explain why camping is pathetic. You're waiting, for someone to walk by, to get a free grab, or a free kill.
Might as well play Call of Duty, or why not bring a tent for that camping.O.o camping didn’t start in cod it started in final fantasy 11. were u kill normal monsters from 2- 18 hours after death for a chance at a respawn as only 1 spawns people would camp for it as only 1 has a chance at a drop.
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Reposting info I just got....
I called mr face and asked yo man why camp?
No one likes it .
This was his official response...
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@Carpemortum said:
Peanits said:No. What they're doing is essentially camping, which is not against the rules.
I thought blocking stairs to prevent gameplay was holding the game hostage/exploit? Hes not just camping, hes straight preventing someone from even attempting an unsafe unhook.
Umm someone’s gonna die vs all 4 there none hooked blocking just for the sake of it.
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I contacted mr face and asked why camp. he sent me this as his official answer....

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How about this wonderful guy lol

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Hey how about this guy?

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U sure it wasn’t mr leatherface? He’s known to live down there
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@Cardgrey said:
@apropos said:
@Cardgrey said:
U people =p u all should just try having fun.
And u all must be all stars cause I’m happy if I get 3.
If u want to fix the issue why not if the killer wins survivors lose all bp. And if survivors win killer loses all bp. Seems to me u need a I win or u lose screen.lolWhat if... they are having fun
Good point I hope they are. And I respect mr Powerbats.
That said why not have the hatch spawn as is if a key is brought in. Or spawn as is if found in game. Were it doesn’t spawn otherwise until the 3rd is dead . Give survivors exposed. And the exposed goes away if the hatch is camped for say 20 seconds or longer.with both not knowing were the hatch is.
Just a idea@Cardgrey said:
@apropos said:
@Cardgrey said:
@apropos said:
@Cardgrey said:
U people =p u all should just try having fun.
And u all must be all stars cause I’m happy if I get 3.
If u want to fix the issue why not if the killer wins survivors lose all bp. And if survivors win killer loses all bp. Seems to me u need a I win or u lose screen.lolWhat if... they are having fun
Good point I hope they are. And I respect mr Powerbats.
That said why not have the hatch spawn as is if a key is brought in. Or spawn as is if found in game. Were it doesn’t spawn otherwise until the 3rd is dead . Give survivors exposed. And the exposed goes away if the hatch is camped for say 20 seconds or longer.with both not knowing were the hatch is.
Just a ideaHell, sounds good.
honestly this fixes a lot. Only issue I see in this is if the killer looking for the hatch instead of looking for the other player and decides to camp it... I don’t know if taking away grab is a good idea...
Input pleaseCould also make the hatch unseeable by the killer so they focus on the person... idk
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@Croz said:
I think making struggle phase more rewarding while in the killer's terror radius should fix camping. As in if you're being camped and you get to the struggle phase you get enough point to black pip or if you had enough objective at some point it might be enough to pip.This will encourage survivors who are being camped to stay and waste the killer's time. Being camped is not fun and in most cases players just suicide on hook when they realize they're being camped to just go to the next game and that in my opinion is why some killers still do it looking for the one hook kills and easy wins.
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@AnthonyC2014 said:
Okay, so I was having a nice time in Dead By Daylight after I purchased the Halloween DLC, I had played a few rounds of playing Laurie Strode (Who was incredible if you use Decisive correctly)
But then, I decide to play again and the host who I connected to saw me switch to Laurie and disconnected from the lobby...
Does this happen often to other Lauries? I know it's probably because Laurie has Decisive, but if that's the case, then man up and hold your position as killer!Here this is why lol

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@apropos said:
@Cardgrey said:
@apropos said:
@Cardgrey said:
U people =p u all should just try having fun.
And u all must be all stars cause I’m happy if I get 3.
If u want to fix the issue why not if the killer wins survivors lose all bp. And if survivors win killer loses all bp. Seems to me u need a I win or u lose screen.lolWhat if... they are having fun
Good point I hope they are. And I respect mr Powerbats.
That said why not have the hatch spawn as is if a key is brought in. Or spawn as is if found in game. Were it doesn’t spawn otherwise until the 3rd is dead . Give survivors exposed. And the exposed goes away if the hatch is camped for say 20 seconds or longer.with both not knowing were the hatch is.
Just a ideaHell, sounds good.
honestly this fixes a lot. Only issue I see in this is if the killer looking for the hatch instead of looking for the other player and decides to camp it... I don’t know if taking away grab is a good idea...
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@apropos said:
@Cardgrey said:
U people =p u all should just try having fun.
And u all must be all stars cause I’m happy if I get 3.
If u want to fix the issue why not if the killer wins survivors lose all bp. And if survivors win killer loses all bp. Seems to me u need a I win or u lose screen.lolWhat if... they are having fun
Good point I hope they are. And I respect mr Powerbats.
That said why not have the hatch spawn as is if a key is brought in. Or spawn as is if found in game. Were it doesn’t spawn otherwise until the 3rd is dead . Give survivors exposed. And the exposed goes away if the hatch is camped for say 20 seconds or longer.with both not knowing were the hatch is.
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U people =p u all should just try having fun.
And u all must be all stars cause I’m happy if I get 3.
If u want to fix the issue why not if the killer wins survivors lose all bp. And if survivors win killer loses all bp. Seems to me u need a I win or u lose screen.lol -
@IrgendeinIrrer said:
As far as I know there are problems in every competetive multiplayer game.
I think the players are at fault. Everyone thinks it's funny to troll other people, yet when you get trolled yourself it suddenly stops being funny. People like to utterly destroy noobs and make some nice Youtube Videos out of it. In Overwatch for example, some people purposely play bad on a smurf account just so they can stomp through bronce players and make fun of them online.
All that creates a lot of frustration and the players who just wanted to play the game start taking out their anger on other players and the cycle continues.
I think survivors who complain about killers ruining the game are pretty much that bicycle meme where the dude puts a stick in his wheel while driving, falls and blames it on someone else.
Also I can't really blame survivors for wanting to play SWF, if they play properly.
I'm fed up with playing survivor on my own, random teammates tend do disconnect after they get downed once or won't struggle at all on the hook. Now in these cases you can't really blame the killer, it's your teammates who left you hanging.I also think tunneling is a viable way for the killer to play, after all time works against the killer and getting one survivor out of the game asap greatly benefits you. If as a Survivor you tend to get tunneled a lot you can try different perks and strategies to escape the chase and break free.
The only real dick move the killer can make is facecamping the first guy he got.I'm still pretty new to this game but after playing both survivor and killer I think that survivors are the more toxic bunch and have more power to spoil the other ones game experience
U mean this one o.o

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I think people get worked up over a list made in his point of view. Forgetting we all have bias and make mistakes.
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I’d say that vid probably sums up how he is as a player honestly. He even says at one point that how long u are down affects how long it takes u to get up. =p
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@Dreamnomad said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
(aside from nurse being best killer in the game because we all know that is a true fact) it's perfectly fine.Perhaps on the PC. On PS4 the nurse is largely thought of as a joke killer. So your fact isn't really a fact.
@PhantomMask20763 said:
Dreamnomad said:@PhantomMask20763 said:
(aside from nurse being best killer in the game because we all know that is a true fact) it's perfectly fine.
Perhaps on the PC. On PS4 the nurse is largely thought of as a joke killer. So your fact isn't really a fact.
Well yeah, I'm a ps4 player myself, however some people can still play her very well and have mastered the nurse so technically nurse is still top tier she just has a much higher learning curve
@akbays35 said:
I'd like to see Truetalent and Monto have a teir list, I think theirs would be more accurate.@LightsOut88 said:
Goldengeartwo said:Disagree with Hag being so low. Out of the 4 Killers I play (Doctjor, Pig, Freddy, Hag) I feel she's my strongest Killer by a decent margin.
You play the worst 4 killers in the game on everyones tier list man! Lol You must be a masochist
@Nickenzie said:
Might_Oakk said:The real tier list:
S - Nurse
D - Everyone else
Dying right now, I really needed that

@Kaelum said:
Here's a link to TydeTyme dying to a Hag with 4 gens left, while at the same time trash talking No0b3:@Mc_Harty said:
@Cardgrey said:
Here’s a slug vid =DWhat does that have to do with his list?
Look at all these not talking about his tier list....
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About as much as your post there o.o
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Here’s a slug vid =D
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@KingB said:
Best rework for ds: Stun killer in place while filling X% of wiggle bar. Remove killer's ability to drop the survivor or look up while this happens so if someone has a flashlight it's an escape but this rework addresses the biggest problem to DS. There is no true counterplay, dribbling only works if survivor goes down near a hook or someone bodyblocks.The true counterplay would be just flat out slugging them and let it be a day lol
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As a killer main here I wanna say. DS doesn't seem broken to me. Just yesterday. I had a rank 1 game with all 4 running it apparently. Still got 4k. I just treat everyone as if they have it. So I dribble alot lol
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Wraith is #1 except when a camping leather face is a option.
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Thanks for the reply’s thou it’s not about rank . I was just wondering if the penalty stacks
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Well it would tell me if I’m going to need to pull a save out of nowhere or if I can continue to play my generator repair sim.
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@friendlykillermain said:
@AnotherRandy said:
Or they could just implement mouse and keyboard support and work for crossplay. This would benefit all of us in the long runNOOOO GOD PLEASE NO i know it sounds like a good idea in theory but trust me keyboard and mouse on ps4 is a bannable offense for a reason this implementation would absolutely rend those casual controller players and completely upset the dynamic a good idea in theory but in practice a living hell
Lol it’s not bannable go ask blizzard who has been trying since release to do something with it on over watch lol
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@Eight said:
when the killer plays Hex: Ruin but you can't be bothered to find the totemWhy not just work thou it. lol I’d dc if someone would rather look for it vs working thou it.
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Same with me and Mr wraith\myers. I went from 20 to 5 in a day cause of lucky games. but, I honestly lacked the skill of a 5... Hell a 10 even. and all it did at that point was flustrate me. and it was not the survivers fault I was vs people with years of exp and me only have weeks ( mostly survivor xp at that point)
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Art the clown from terrifier... Watch it to understand .
https://youtu.be/mQr6JPh3D10