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  • You should not blur out his name he has no right to privacy over the internet
  • Good job on learning how to utilize him efficiently 
  • Maximus7 said:

    They won't buff him because with Frank's Mix Tape he can actually down survivors. They balance killers to be reliant on add-ons. And he's extremely reliant on his add-ons. So even if he's trash at base, they won't change him.

    Really? Cause I’ve done well with brown add ons, even NO add ons.
  • @DaRealxFactor
    no one wants to hear about your positive experience using Legion, can’t you see we’re all trying to get him to be a 4K Killer every game??
    Somehow not wanting a killer that is worse than freddy and has to tunnel like a ######### to get more than 1k against survivors who are playing as intended = wanting to 4k every game. Btw I got adept after 2 tries (which basically means being peerless at r1), he's ridiculously easy to play but anybody with self reflection knows that he didn't outplay their enemies on legion.
    Why am I not getting your notifications??
    Legion=Viable 2019
  • Doultime said:
    Agreed love to play legion is one of my fav killers with pig atm
    Same
  • It’s a different way to kill, and introduces a new p,aynstyle. Maybe some people just aren’t good with him. I wouldn’t say he is meant for everyone to be amazing, because then he would play too similarly to other killers, or wouldn’t provide the new play style. I’m super happy they introduced a new mechanic, and definitely feel like it adds a fresh play style to the game.

    Thanks behavior!

    This exactly. Legion takes some thinking to use and strategize with, it makes you learn to play different than, “chase, stab, get looped, break pallets, get looped some more, down survivor and hook” that every Killeen is used to. I love him/her already almost 2nd prestige with them. 
  • @DaRealxFactor
    no one wants to hear about your positive experience using Legion, can’t you see we’re all trying to get him to be a 4K Killer every game??
  • @RotBb But Legion is broken though he’s not capable of doing well against anyone much less getting a kill 😂
  • One game proves nothing. I'm sure the survivors weren't playing optimally anyway.

    wHaT aBoUt nOw mR, DiD i PrOvE sOmEtHiNg nOw??



  • Mr_Myers said:

    Wow 1 game, what a good way to judge a killer!

    Just so you know most people on these forums judged the killer and never even played the PTB
  • Hmm let’s compare Myers Evil Within II to most other killers:

    Myers EWII:
    Terror radius: 16 meters
    Speed: 115%

    Most other killers:
    Terror radius: 32 meters
    Speed: 115%

    He’s most certainly already stealthier even with the same speed, being able to switch back and fourth would make him too strong tipping his balance to the top of the list of killers. At evil within III he has a normal Terror radius of 32 meters with the exception of increased vaulting speed and able to one shot you. Need I say more?

  • So technically hit boxes are in the killers favor, I see.
  • assuming you're using consoles, you have to make your brother's console your "home" console and he has to do the same for yours. You will then be able to share games, DLC's, memberships, etc.

  • Simple thing, can we have anti map offerings. That way if we do a certain playstyle, or just really dislike a certain map, we don’t have to play it. 

    I would love one for haddonfield specifically, i get that map in over 40% of my games and its honestly quite annoyingg.
    Tbh after playing this game for so long it seems like the maps are predertermined to some degree in favor of the killer, respectively.
    I hardly ever get Coldwind Farm with Myers, but I’ll get it more with Billy than any other Killer. 
  • Who.
    Cares.

    Let's get Cheech and Chong as DLC characters.

    I’m down for that 😂
  • Basically it’s not worth the perk slot, much better off using adrenaline 
  • Tsulan said:
    Now we have Freddy 2.0 but at least he can vault pallets!
    Killer being able to kill? Go away with this nonsense!

    We got the killer the survivor community asked for. Someone who gives the thrill of a chase without being an actual threat. Someone who can't even tunnel. 

    I hope survivor mains buy this chapter. Because I doubt that killers will.
    I’ll just leave this here   https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/33761/do-you-think-you-ll-buy-the-new-killer-with-these-new-changes#latest
  • I approve of OP’s idea, solo survivors have it hard enough.
  • It’s from not hooking everyone 3 times I believe. The only way to overcome that is by using a Mori
  • I only play it on maps like Game and Lery’s. If you play it at high ranks on any other map it’s almost a joke.
  • Poweas said:

    This is a pointless thread (sorry mate)

    How? It obviously wasn’t meant to be part of the game. If anything it requires a mod tag
  • Malakir said:
    No ######### sherlock
    It’s important though, I’ve caught multiple people at high ranks trying to be sneaky, apparently not everyone is aware.
  • Yeah I will buy him, so will my SWF groups. $$$

  • Orion said:

    @Speshul_Kitten said:
    I believe it’s for the standard 32 meters. You can usually distinct the killers radius by the intensity of the heartbeat. 

    And if the Killer is engaged in a chase?

     A hooked survivor can tell if their teammate is being chased, at least I can and if it’s within approximately 32 meters of the hooked survivor then of course it’s not camping, you’re securing your asset. 
    I think what most survivors are trying to get at is when the killer is simply patrolling the area within the standard terror radius and not bothering to check other parts of the map, aka “proxy camping.”
  • Wolf74 said:

    @Speshul_Kitten said:
    Tsulan said:


    Vietfox said:


    Tsulan said:


    The_Crusader said:


    Tsulan said:

    Survivors used to dodge lobbies to play together with their friends, before SWF was introduced. They did it because it wasn't fun to play normal. 

    Now killers do the same and survivors scream for temp bans and time outs.

    Ironic 

    A small number of people who wanted to do that did it for what, a month or two before SWF was introduced?

    That totally justifies most killers doing it for over 2 years because solo survivors just happened to load in at the same time as other solo survivors or they had a cosmetic or item the killer didn't like.

    But some people can't understand that the killer is also a human being who wants to enjoy the game. 

    @Tsulan
    So by the same premise i guess you never camp without reason, because it's not fun for survivors either.

    Define camping. 
    Because I've seen survivors call out a face camp from 20 meters distance. 
    Or complain about camping, when MYC triggered. 
    Or when the gates are powered...

    Everything the killer does is considered camping. 

    I believe the term for when a killer’s terror radius is within the hooked survivor is loosely as “proxy camping” or proximity camping.

    With Distressing? With M&A? With Insidious? While cloaked?

    I believe it’s for the standard 32 meters. You can usually distinct the killers radius by the intensity of the heartbeat. 
  • Tsulan said:
    Vietfox said:
    Tsulan said:
    Tsulan said:
    Survivors used to dodge lobbies to play together with their friends, before SWF was introduced. They did it because it wasn't fun to play normal. 

    Now killers do the same and survivors scream for temp bans and time outs.

    Ironic 
    A small number of people who wanted to do that did it for what, a month or two before SWF was introduced?

    That totally justifies most killers doing it for over 2 years because solo survivors just happened to load in at the same time as other solo survivors or they had a cosmetic or item the killer didn't like.

    But some people can't understand that the killer is also a human being who wants to enjoy the game. 
    @Tsulan
    So by the same premise i guess you never camp without reason, because it's not fun for survivors either.
    Define camping. 
    Because I've seen survivors call out a face camp from 20 meters distance. 
    Or complain about camping, when MYC triggered. 
    Or when the gates are powered...

    Everything the killer does is considered camping. 
    I believe the term for when a killer’s terror radius is within the hooked survivor is loosely as “proxy camping” or proximity camping.
  • Seriously, it’s just a loop fest.

    Survivors loop. And, if they’re good enough, you can’t mindgame w/o spirit. If you try to chase and hook one, boom! 3 gens, right there. And with DS we have to catch them twice to actually get them. And most loop, causing those last 2 gens to pop. Then there are flashlights. Loop, slam. Blind. This toxic behavior is unacceptable.
    I had a spirit chase me for 4 gens until they finally gave up last night, and this was at Rank 1. So to be honest it’s really just your skill as a killer.
  • Must be why Adam screams like a girl 
  • Is it me or does “Stage 4” seem to be the one that goes on most of the game?
  • fcc2014 said:

    @Speshul_Kitten said:
    I use them when I get SWF trying to last second switch on me like this

    How did you get matched against them?

    Idk console match making is broken right now 
  • I use them when I get SWF trying to last second switch on me like this

    How would you do that though? If they switch at the last second?

    3 decisive strike? Must be a fake screenshot because people on here have told me that "nobody brings DS anymore" :lol:
    4 P3 Megs came into the lobby at the same time and didn’t ready up till last 8 seconds, I had a hunch what they were gonna do 3DS 3 Purple Flash and a key just in case lol
    Oh yeah that. Yeah that does sound pretty indicative of a switch.

    Surprised they didn't rage quit. Then again they probsbly get lobby dodged a lot so were willing to settle with any game.

    I find if I use a mori or black ward often not all survivors will load in lol.
    Yeah seriously lol
  • I use them when I get SWF trying to last second switch on me like this

    How would you do that though? If they switch at the last second?

    3 decisive strike? Must be a fake screenshot because people on here have told me that "nobody brings DS anymore" :lol:
    4 P3 Megs came into the lobby at the same time and didn’t ready up till last 8 seconds, I had a hunch what they were gonna do 3DS 3 Purple Flash and a key just in case lol
  • I use them when I get SWF trying to last second switch on me like this

  • More like: 
    Ruin
    NOED
    BBQ
    Blood Warden

    he's more useful end game if anything.

  • I've asked the developers to higher the time penalty when they leave.
    If you leave a lobby, start the penalty timer from 5, to 30 seconds, to 1 minute to 2.


    I’m not sure if there are enough players for them to start penalizing. They might feel the player base they have would get discouraged and stop playing for a while or for good. We as a community are still trying to grow and only really respond to serious offenses.
  • Blueberry said:

    @Speshul_Kitten said:
    Blueberry said:

    @Speshul_Kitten said:

    redsopine01 said:

    Speshul_Kitten said:
    
    
    
    Blueberry said:
    
    @Speshul_Kitten said:
    
    Blueberry said:
    

    @Barron said: @Blueberry said: @Barron said: @DarkWo1f997 said: Blueberry said: Sounds reasonable and makes sense to me. Survivors needs a reason to heal against him, otherwise they all just stay injured and make him look stupid. I think making him a burst killer would be really fun and unique, but he feels like a gimmick right now and when the illusion of your power making a difference shatters, he just loses his appeal. He does basically nothing.  Yea, but would it be fun to play against. You realize people need to have fun to play a game and to continue to play it, right? With the changes he sounds pretty fun to play against to me. I read your posts. One of the most biased individuals on these forums. I most certainly don't respect your opinion or what you would consider "fun". I find that quite ironic since you were the one that asked me a question. Regardless, I am not biased at all, I play both sides at rank 1 regularly. However, I doubt you could say the same.

    Look who it is accusing people of not playing both sides. Sounds like you need to get put in your place again 🤨
    
    
    
    Oh you mean I need to put you in time out again?
    
    You already got taught a lesson that you didn't learn last time, let's not embarrass yourself more
    
    
    
    @Blueberry: I’ll just pretend to play both sides and diss people who have an opinion against killers, then I’ll make them show they play both sides to get away with it, since they won’t do it anyway.
    
    forum member: shows proof they play both sides
    
    @Blueberry :
    
    Grins look up redsopine1's live dbd game (I pay both and constantly live stream games just have 3 typo f13 games with dbd on them but I got proof there for you more killer but now doing more survivor to balance it out)
    

    Proof doesn’t matter to @blueberry he just taunts players into it thinking they won’t show proof, then when you do there’s nothing he can say.

    I stream on twitch, would you like me to go live right now so you can see my hours, rank, and game play of both sides? You talk a lot of smack with nothing to back it up, I've got all the proof behind my claims.

    You didn't show me anything on the last thread, a couple pictures of you at rank 1 means absolutely nothing. I stopped responding because you've made it quite clear your lack of IQ has lead you be unable to follow any coherent train of thought, not because you proved anything.

    Lastly, "diss people who have an opinion against killers" I have done nothing of the such and your hypocrisy is glaring. You literally even came to this page to comment on me about absolutely nothing to do with the thread but to try and taunt me.

    Stop being a crybaby, you asked for proof of Rank 1 on both sides and I gave it to you, completely disregarding 90% of everything you said in that post. When I did you were nowhere to be found. 
    I’ll link it since you like that kind of stuff: 
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/33071/why-does-bbq-deserve-a-buff/p1

    Stop crying long enough to reread those posts and see what I actually said. All you provided was rank 1 killer proof and that is not what I asked for. "When I did you were nowhere to be found." Once again, reread my posts because I've already answered this, you're just failing to follow along. Keep up.

    You’re a funny guy, I’m more amused by your low intelligence than anything on these forums tbh.
  • Blueberry said:

    @Speshul_Kitten said:
    redsopine01 said:


    Speshul_Kitten said:


    Blueberry said:

    @Speshul_Kitten said:

    Blueberry said:

    @Barron said:
    
    @Blueberry said:
    
    @Barron said:
    
    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    
    Blueberry said:
    
    Sounds reasonable and makes sense to me. Survivors needs a reason to heal against him, otherwise they all just stay injured and make him look stupid.
    
    
    
    I think making him a burst killer would be really fun and unique, but he feels like a gimmick right now and when the illusion of your power making a difference shatters, he just loses his appeal. He does basically nothing. 
    
    
    
    Yea, but would it be fun to play against. You realize people need to have fun to play a game and to continue to play it, right?
    
    
    
    With the changes he sounds pretty fun to play against to me.
    
    
    
    I read your posts. One of the most biased individuals on these forums. I most certainly don't respect your opinion or what you would consider "fun".
    
    
    
    I find that quite ironic since you were the one that asked me a question.
    
    Regardless, I am not biased at all, I play both sides at rank 1 regularly. However, I doubt you could say the same.
    

    Look who it is accusing people of not playing both sides. Sounds like you need to get put in your place again 🤨

    Oh you mean I need to put you in time out again?

    You already got taught a lesson that you didn't learn last time, let's not embarrass yourself more

    @Blueberry: I’ll just pretend to play both sides and diss people who have an opinion against killers, then I’ll make them show they play both sides to get away with it, since they won’t do it anyway.

    forum member: shows proof they play both sides

    @Blueberry :

    Grins look up redsopine1's live dbd game (I pay both and constantly live stream games just have 3 typo f13 games with dbd on them but I got proof there for you more killer but now doing more survivor to balance it out)

    Proof doesn’t matter to @blueberry he just taunts players into it thinking they won’t show proof, then when you do there’s nothing he can say.

    I stream on twitch, would you like me to go live right now so you can see my hours, rank, and game play of both sides? You talk a lot of smack with nothing to back it up, I've got all the proof behind my claims.

    You didn't show me anything on the last thread, a couple pictures of you at rank 1 means absolutely nothing. I stopped responding because you've made it quite clear your lack of IQ has lead you be unable to follow any coherent train of thought, not because you proved anything.

    Lastly, "diss people who have an opinion against killers" I have done nothing of the such and your hypocrisy is glaring. You literally even came to this page to comment on me about absolutely nothing to do with the thread but to try and taunt me.

    Stop being a crybaby, you asked for proof of Rank 1 on both sides and I gave it to you, completely disregarding 90% of everything you said in that post. When I did you were nowhere to be found. 
    I’ll link it since you like that kind of stuff: 
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/33071/why-does-bbq-deserve-a-buff/p1
  • Vietfox said:
    Acromio said:
    Have fun versing Nurses and Billies 24/7 when you get out of the scrub ranks.
    Not on consoles 😜
    He’s got a point. Nurses and even billy’s on console are not as common. On Xbox, the most common are pig, Myers, hag, trapper, and somehow, Freddy. 

    The most common killer on Xbox since I last played is Pig. And Xbox has some very scary pig mains. I am one of them. ;) 
    Pig and trapper? At what Rank? The most I see at Rank 1 on Xbox is Myers, Doctor and Spirit is coming up a lot recently too.
  • Also killers shouldn’t be allowed to look at a survivor for more than 10 seconds at a time, it’s rude.


    Ok
    It was a joke 
  • Johdude said:

    @Speshul_Kitten said:
    Things you’ll need:

    •P3 Claudette
    •Purple Flashlight (green+yellow battery)
    •Red Forest or Autohaven Wreckers offering
    • DS (decisive strike)
    •SB (Sprint Burst)
    •SC (self care)
    •Adrenaline
    dont forget to teabag during the game and switch to this class 6 seconds before the game starts!

    good luck!!

    How do you estimate the distance between you and the killer?

    Tbh I have to drop the pallet early. (Usually around the second time you loop it, 3rd time max if you have Dead Hard or Lithe)
    It saves me from getting hit and gives me enough time to move onto the next obstacle. If you can’t make a vault, you’ll have to get close enough to trick the killer that you’ll vault but that’s when you actually 180 and vault the other window. Just hope the killer isn’t smart enough to see it coming.
  • Also killers shouldn’t be allowed to look at a survivor for more than 10 seconds at a time, it’s rude.


  • Things you’ll need:

    •P3 Claudette
    •Purple Flashlight (green+yellow battery)
    •Red Forest or Autohaven Wreckers offering
    • DS (decisive strike)
    •SB (Sprint Burst)
    •SC (self care)
    •Adrenaline
    dont forget to teabag during the game and switch to this class 6 seconds before the game starts!

    good luck!!

  • Orion said:

    @TheGodfather said:
    They won't add dedicated servers cause ita too hard and expensive... Excuse me but how a game with 2 years old can't have dedicated servers and deathgarden can??

    Because one was made with dedicated servers in mind and the other one wasn't. This is like replacing a human being's entire nervous system after they're fully grown. It's complicated.

    Except one is impossible the other one is not.
  • Blueberry said:

    @Speshul_Kitten said:
    Blueberry said:

    @Barron said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Barron said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:

    Blueberry said:

    Sounds reasonable and makes sense to me. Survivors needs a reason to heal against him, otherwise they all just stay injured and make him look stupid.

    I think making him a burst killer would be really fun and unique, but he feels like a gimmick right now and when the illusion of your power making a difference shatters, he just loses his appeal. He does basically nothing. 

    Yea, but would it be fun to play against. You realize people need to have fun to play a game and to continue to play it, right?

    With the changes he sounds pretty fun to play against to me.

    I read your posts. One of the most biased individuals on these forums. I most certainly don't respect your opinion or what you would consider "fun".

    I find that quite ironic since you were the one that asked me a question.

    Regardless, I am not biased at all, I play both sides at rank 1 regularly. However, I doubt you could say the same.

    Look who it is accusing people of not playing both sides. Sounds like you need to get put in your place again 🤨

    Oh you mean I need to put you in time out again?

    You already got taught a lesson that you didn't learn last time, let's not embarrass yourself more

    @Blueberry: I’ll just pretend to play both sides and diss people who have an opinion against killers, then I’ll make them show they play both sides to get away with it, since they won’t do it anyway.

    forum member: shows proof they play both sides

    @Blueberry :



    Grins look up redsopine1's live dbd game (I pay both and constantly live stream games just have 3 typo f13 games with dbd on them but I got proof there for you more killer but now doing more survivor to balance it out)
    Proof doesn’t matter to @blueberry he just taunts players into it thinking they won’t show proof, then when you do there’s nothing he can say.
  • Only if killers can’t see survivors items being brought in
  • Watching the cats outside my house fight
  • How about all survivors just spawn on hooks
  • Blueberry said:

    @Barron said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Barron said:

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    Blueberry said:

    Sounds reasonable and makes sense to me. Survivors needs a reason to heal against him, otherwise they all just stay injured and make him look stupid.

    I think making him a burst killer would be really fun and unique, but he feels like a gimmick right now and when the illusion of your power making a difference shatters, he just loses his appeal. He does basically nothing. 

    Yea, but would it be fun to play against. You realize people need to have fun to play a game and to continue to play it, right?

    With the changes he sounds pretty fun to play against to me.

    I read your posts. One of the most biased individuals on these forums. I most certainly don't respect your opinion or what you would consider "fun".

    I find that quite ironic since you were the one that asked me a question.

    Regardless, I am not biased at all, I play both sides at rank 1 regularly. However, I doubt you could say the same.

    Look who it is accusing people of not playing both sides. Sounds like you need to get put in your place again 🤨
  • Malakir said:
    Malakir said:
    Malakir said:
    Malakir said:

    @Speshul_Kitten said:
    Malakir said:


    Speshul_Kitten said:


    Rebel_Raven said:

    @Speshul_Kitten said:

    Rebel_Raven said:

    Ask for a realistic WGLF buff, then? I don't believe a soul is stopping you.
    
    IIRC WGLF was adjusted because it encouraged unhooking people directly in front of a killer, and other potato tactics, though.
    
    Killers need to have fun, or at the least feel like they're accomplishing something in the face of the crap survivors put them through  (Especially SWF having fun at the killer's expense), and it's only going to get worse with the new survivor and aura blocker lockers.
    
    So, yeah, why not make a perk better towards this goal?
    

    There just seems to be so much rant after one measley nerf to BBQ and everyone is losing their minds. Meanwhile, survivors are still farming teammates with WGLF and just adding BT to not lose the points.

    BT is getting a solid adjustment, though. Killers aren't too thrilled. Survivors are.

    It's not a measly nerf either, it removes a hefty chunk of why people use it all together.

    Really, am I the only one who uses it for BP’s?? From all the post I’ve seen most killers use it for BP’s. They must’ve changed their minds overnight.

    but yes BT is getting a buff, all the more reason to farm with WGLF right?? That’s why WGLF deserves more of a readjustment then B.B.Q does right now.

    Ehm just saying, we talk about BBQ because its the most used but these changes in combination with the new perk would easy counter EVERY aurora reading. Nurse calling, random, bitter murmur etc aura perks that INCENTIVES hunting and not camping

    Plus BBQ had already 6 counties before these announced changes, 3 of them perk less. That's why people are pissed. One of the most used and counterable perks used by killers getting even more counties and nerfs so even a child can counter it now not even hiding behind a gen or faking a direction for example

    Now people would heal next to the killer, he won't see you with nurse calling Anyway
    Etc etc

    That's why people are pissed and even me since I have even less interest to play killer than usual if these changes get through. I would see way more farmers and dumb mates at high ranks not for their accomplishments but because its even easier, leading a more frustrating game even on survivor side

    Think like the killers are the ones who should sort it out who deserves to be high rank and good survivors the same for killers. If anybody can rank up even easier would hurt everybody.

    Back to the topic, people get pissed nnot only making aura perks way less useful but also one of the strongest perks that everybody asked for a change, even from survivor side, DS, wasn't changed at all while all aura perks and one of the most counterable and used perk nerfed

    But here’s the thing, would you give up any of your meta perks for this new survivor perk? I sure as hell wouldn’t. Furthermore, if we’re gonna talk about survivors having to use another perk to hide auras, doesn’t the killer have the ability to bring in Iron Maiden as well? Even more, survivors can only use that perk until it runs out of tokens. 

    I still think if they’re gonna rebuff BBQ then they should also buff WGLF to adjust the BT. WGLF is long overdue.

    First of, why should any killer give up an older meta perk to counter a new broken perk for the survivor side?
    That logic make no sense and I explained pretty well why people are pissed, why isn't a good change while you just say "Well, would you sacrifice something to not make this broken thing get in a live server?".. seriously, you can have a debate or you are just dumb?

    Yes the killer have such strong perk like, if a survivor exit a locker they are exposed for 15s. So to hit them in 15s they are already pretty close to just open the locker itself if I know they are there.

    The other perk is "you can spam attacks while carrying a survivor with no cd and when you get body blocked you won't lose the grip on your prey". This is sooooooo situational you have no idea

    and the last perk "show if 2 survivors works in a gen" so now the survivor have even more incentives to do gen rush correctly, 1 gen per survivor.

    Totally the same thing as:
    Perk that prevent auras 3 times, any auras not only BBQ, any auras that helped SURVIVORS to not be camped and incentives killer to leave the hook

    Perkless mechanic, now you counter auras even without perks staying in a locker. Yeah, even a perkless ability, great. So now I would use your logic. Let's say at the start of the game you all are exposed for 2 minutes, no counterplay, no totems to break. Just first 2 minutes exposed unless you are in a hook. Won't be a perk but would you sacrifice your DS or a meta perk to prevent this change? Now I hope you realize how stupid your sentence was

    A perk that's bond 2.0 (after care). So another aura perk for survivor, which I won't mind, actually I like it and I might use it. The problem is all killers auras are being nerfed, even the ones that were barely viable now would become trash

    Breakdown, i love this one since it opens up more to sabo builds. The problem? punish killers to do hooks, which is bad for one single reason. All the other nerfs that might came up makes the new killer perks laughable.

    All these things plus just to make it even better, a killer that can't kill. Can only Hurt survivor but sucks at actually down them, an actual clown for survivors entertainment. Yeah I can figure out why people are pissed, if you can't you might play just one side or just stubborn to understand what you don't like taking it like a personal attack

    I’m having trouble understanding your frustrated sentencing structure. I think what you’re trying to illustrate is that a killer won’t give up a perk slot for Iron Maiden.  Also, why would the game start with all survivors having the exposed effect, haven you ever heard of NOED?? And why do you bring up Legion when this is strictly a BBQ and WGLF debate, do you really need to reinforce this with outside bias?

    My point still stands, good survivors won’t give up a meta spot for the aura perk. 

    WGLF should be buffed if they’re going to revert the aura locker effect. 

    And to completely disregard your last argument, I already proved I play both sides, as requested
    OK you are right. You don't understand
     If you even can't understand what I'm talking about even using your logic making a dumb statement like you did before, I don't new to keep discussing with you

    Its pointless, would be easier teach a rock to jump.
    Disregard my argument that's Hilarious when you can't understand what I say even if explained it two times and straw man my points. That's cute
    Okay since you’re logic makes absolute sense.
    I at leadt use logic making examples after examples giving you facts like that already existing counters etc

    You just say "no you're wrong"

    I can't talk with someone who uses feeling vs real arguments and straw man mines, I'm sorry
    Yeah cause starting the game wit exposed status effect is a logical way of putting things. 
    I was using you logic there making a dumb example like for me I dumb be that protected from aura effects WITHOUT perks

    As far as I can see you can't understand yet. Don't worry its fine dude, everyone is gifted in different things. You might be very good in other stuff for sure ;)
    Mine is in logic, yours on the other hand might need some work, along with your English. You literally just called yourself dumb lol 😂
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