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@Global said:
You see, I get your point but. "Without killers you have no game" is flawed as no survivors also equals no game. So if we all quit then who really wins this stupid "mains" war.For every Killer that quits, 4 Survivors have one less lobby. For every 4 Survivors that quit, Killers have one less lobby. It's an asymmetrical game.
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@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@lionsou said:
@wisdom said:
What exactly is wrong with just using offerings?they're talking about base chance, not map offerings. The problem I see is that people are consecutively getting the same map and they are finding it boring to play. If there was more of a chance to get other maps then people may be more inclined to continue playing.
There could literally be a billion maps, and some people would still be getting the same maps several times in a row, because that's how probability works.
when there is 5 maps for the 3 original ones and all the others have less than 5 five and i dont get those but get the one with the majority more then there is a problem
No, that's just probability.
not when the numbers are there
You said you get the realms with more maps more often than the ones with fewer maps. That's probability.
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@ReneAensland said:
@Orion said:
Would you like to be part of a group to play KYF in the PTB? Queue times will be much faster, but you'll have to rotate who plays Killer.I do that on Console.
It's really fun. =]No PTB on console.
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I've added you.
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I am, since, at the moment, I'm the only member of the group. Every time I mention the idea, people seem to become more tolerant of absurd queue times and leave their complaint threads.
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Would you like to be part of a group to play KYF in the PTB? Queue times will be much faster, but you'll have to rotate who plays Killer.
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@ReneAensland said:
How? I'm a dick sometimes and I haven't been asked to chill.
What do you have to do to be put on time out?People who are jailed always did something to deserve it. However, it does seem like the mods have been quicker on the trigger as of late.
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I did, and I think you're grasping at straws when it comes to name changes. You're essentially hand-waving away the differences to make it fit.
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@akbays35 said:
@Orion said:
The reason the Legion feels underwhelming has little to do with their power or stats. Similarly to the Doctor when he was first released, the problem is the Deep Wound mechanic that their power relies on. Deep Wound is simply not that great.Changes to the Legion will not fix the problem. Deep Wound is what needs fixing.
Legion actually needs his double stun fixed, after that maybe some other tweaks (faster base recharge on his power since he moves so slow?) honestly I think an interesting change would be to survivors having a cooldown on their adrenaline hit run since that gimps Legion and was probably never looked at on a developer standpoint for a multiple hitting killer.
The Legion do need some changes to their base kit, IMO, but even if they were to remain the same and Deep Wound were changed instead, they'd be fine.
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@altruistic said:
@PiiFree said:
@Avariku said:
I'm genuinely curious how you can "have fun" staring at someone hanging on a hook for 2 minutes.That's not really funny but let me hit you with the reality: You won't be looking at the hook for 2 minutes, you'll be looking at 3 survivors that desperately try to help their friend. And that's incredibly funny sometimes ;-)

Have to punish behavior when it's called for. Gee Gee

Wow, you're part of the 1/10 Survivors who don't reward camping.
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@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
@Orion said:
@lionsou said:
@wisdom said:
What exactly is wrong with just using offerings?they're talking about base chance, not map offerings. The problem I see is that people are consecutively getting the same map and they are finding it boring to play. If there was more of a chance to get other maps then people may be more inclined to continue playing.
There could literally be a billion maps, and some people would still be getting the same maps several times in a row, because that's how probability works.
when there is 5 maps for the 3 original ones and all the others have less than 5 five and i dont get those but get the one with the majority more then there is a problem
No, that's just probability.
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@Carpemortum said:
I've been saying this and people just disregard it and complain about legion again.Reminds me of when I say that people need to group up in KYF to play the PTB. Everyone either ignores the comments or straight-up vanishes when I mention it. The few that respond then mysteriously disappear when it becomes clear it's a very real and simple possibility.
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@PiiFree said:
@Avariku said:
I'm genuinely curious how you can "have fun" staring at someone hanging on a hook for 2 minutes.That's not really funny but let me hit you with the reality: You won't be looking at the hook for 2 minutes, you'll be looking at 3 survivors that desperately try to help their friend. And that's incredibly funny sometimes ;-)
Indeed it is.
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Evan is just American. They don't even have the same last name.
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It will probably come simultaneously, yes. I don't think the updated engine is a coincidence.
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@Carpemortum said:
Ahh maker sense. Still, I'll hit follow and check you out soemtime!Thank you. I'm going out tonight with my mod (he's also my BF :P), so no stream today. There might be one tomorrow, assuming the program I have to leave running in the background for a physics experiment doesn't overwhelm my system.
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If you don't mind wasting time, open up lobbies with the Nightmare and then just go AFK.
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I get more Yamaoka Estate vibes from it than Red Forest, TBH. Your map looks good, though.
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Jake Park is Korean. Archie and Evan MacMillan are American.
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@Tzeentchling9 said:
Not sure how the Doctor's original release compares with DW. Original Doctor's problem was that madness didn't actually do anything without add-ons and switching modes was too punishing.And the Legion's problem is that Deep Wound doesn't actually do anything and using their power is too punishing.
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@βLAKE said:
Then you need to work on your jokes because that made no one laugh. Especially when you have to defend your jokes.I'm pretty sure you were the only one who thought the chart was meant to be serious.
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@DemonDaddy said:
Know what's not fun? A game where the only direction is a straight line. Let people have a choice in how they play the game. Face camping sucks but its not every game and i have yet to see a camper go uncountered. Mandatory play styles will hurt in the long run. You can't have an engaging experience if the action only takes place when its the least threatening. I don't want game mechanics to hold my hand.Agreed. That's why games that are too easy (where the strategy you employ is irrelevant because you're virtually guaranteed a win) or too restrictive (only a handful of strategies can be used if you intend to win) are boring.
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@Well_Placed_HexTotem said:
Dedicated servers? Nah.
Console optimization? lul
VR? You betchaConsole optimization is coming, VR isn't. Maybe read the thread?
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@purebalance said:
@Orion said:
@purebalance said:
@altruistic said:
Some gamers are going to catch, and make sure the survivor dies on hook. Doesn’t matter the survivor, the day or time.I don’t care about Killing. I also don’t let people go for free.. Unless there are 2x Party Streamers and I’ll consider it.
Take it as a compliment. If someone is camping you to death, they’re afraid they won’t catch you again.
My favorite games are when people hard camp, they get 1 kill and 7.5k points. Meanwhile everyone else escapes. Then they say you’re noob gen rushers L u L 🙂
Which is why campers are trash players. They can't get someone more than once. If I max bold points in a single chase and go down, I'm 90% sure the trash is going to camp. It's epidemic from rank 20-8 and honestly needs to be addressed. It's the reason for most of the DC's and hook suicides in the game.
So trash that you're the one who lost.
Lost? lol ok if that's what you call taking 10 minutes to down 1 survivor. Yeah that is THE definition of trash. Rank 1 killer and I never take long enough to fill a survivor's boldness points. But hey be aggressive trash because you're always wrong.
You died, so yeah, you lost. You couldn't even win the chase and failed at stealth.
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@purebalance said:
Up to 6 occurrences today and still nothing be done about it. But hey let's have another ban wave for survivors who dc and not perma ban killers using this exploit.Killers who DC get banned too. Why are you pretending it's just Survivors?
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@Speshul_Kitten said:
@Orion said:
The Killers are immortal and invulnerable to any real harm. The Avengers are not.Then why do pallets seem to hurt them so much?
A simple stun, nothing more. The Hulk can also be stunned by a hard (surprise) punch to the face, doesn't mean the punch will do him any real harm.
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The Killers are immortal and invulnerable to any real harm. The Avengers are not.
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@purebalance said:
@altruistic said:
Some gamers are going to catch, and make sure the survivor dies on hook. Doesn’t matter the survivor, the day or time.I don’t care about Killing. I also don’t let people go for free.. Unless there are 2x Party Streamers and I’ll consider it.
Take it as a compliment. If someone is camping you to death, they’re afraid they won’t catch you again.
My favorite games are when people hard camp, they get 1 kill and 7.5k points. Meanwhile everyone else escapes. Then they say you’re noob gen rushers L u L 🙂
Which is why campers are trash players. They can't get someone more than once. If I max bold points in a single chase and go down, I'm 90% sure the trash is going to camp. It's epidemic from rank 20-8 and honestly needs to be addressed. It's the reason for most of the DC's and hook suicides in the game.
So trash that you're the one who lost.
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@Mister_xD said:


i had to.
forgive me.So you're saying Frodo should've hid behind generators on his way to Mordor?
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@iTz_KilLaZ_x said:
These devs aren’t just bad though. They’re so bad it’s laughable lolLike the vast majority of devs. People who make games are rarely good at playing them.
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All devs of all games are worse at playing the games they made than the players.
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@Mister_xD said:
oh wow... i was expecting something else, but you are actually right with this. if the deep wound status effect was more threatening, the legion would be way better immediately.just make the timer tick down during a chase too, its not that hard... .-.
The timer should not tick down during a chase for the same reason RBTs don't. I laid out some suggestions here: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/32396/deep-wound-mend-and-legion-changes
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@thesuicidefox said:
@G0odNess said:
OMG please understand the legion's base speed is 110% so, please, explain to me how the [BAD WORD] are they supposed to catch a decent survivor without their "power", do the killer just plays "ring around the rosey" 'till the survivor feels like stoping???I putting this in big text for everyone to read...
THE SURVIVOR MUST STOP TO MEND
They have to. Immediately after the chase ends, they must do that before ANYTHING else. It's not like RBT, or Madness, or normal healing even, where you can choose to do other things for at least some time before doing those actions.
It's this moment where Legion can close the gap on you, and if you are close enough the 5% less movement speed is irrelevant.
Or they can keep looping, because the timer will not go down during a chase.
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@RSB said:
@ReneAensland said:
Tru3 said he has potential to be the weakest killer.
I watch him daily.Yesterday he played against his R15 minions, and he was amused how "OP" the Legion is. Today he got wrecked a couple of times and already changed his mind, quite funny.
He's a professional streamer. His job is to entertain, so the opinions he expresses, for the most part, are simply what will be most entertaining at any given moment. If you want real opinions, you need to look for someone who doesn't get paid depending on how entertaining their opinions are.
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@RSB said:
@Orion said:
@Visionmaker said:
@Exerlin said:
@Visionmaker said:
@Exerlin said:
@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
That's pretty lame. They should try to get good players like Monto and Tru3 to show off the new killer's capabilities when every party knows what they're doing.
Or they could just choose the devs that have actually played the game for a while to do it...
In case people forget, we actually have those.
Honestly, the only person that's part of the company I've ever seen play well is Queen.
There is an employee that played like 3000 hours somewhere too.
I have one on my friends list who has played for almost 9000 hours.
So where are they? Why did they put the R20 players (and Queen) to show new content? They embarassed themselves.
My guess is they're doing their job.
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@I_am_Negan said:
@Orion said:
I'd think it's dumb. If anything, it should stun the Survivor (stop wiggle progression) for a short period. Have you tried wiggling off of someone's shoulder after said shoulder gets hammered into your stomach? It's not easy.Add also getting smacked upside the head twice before going on the shoulder
I was ignoring that bit, but yeah, getting smacked twice and being literally minutes away from death.
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@Visionmaker said:
@Exerlin said:
@Visionmaker said:
@Exerlin said:
@RSB said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
What was it about???About the new, famous quote made by M. Cote - "Legion has trouble finishing the business (downing the survivors) and it's fine!" - they literally said he should be weak, because they don't want another Billy/Nurse tier killer.
About their level of gameplay - they wanted to show the possibilities Legion has and how he should be played but... People playing there were R20 players, the killer were missing 5 TIMES IN A ROW WHILE IN FRENZY while he tried to hit the surv, he ended up killing only one survivor by accident, not_Queen literally wrecked him. If that is the level of gameplay of the devs, then I have no doubts why this game is so poorly balanced. In favour of killers and survivors.
That's pretty lame. They should try to get good players like Monto and Tru3 to show off the new killer's capabilities when every party knows what they're doing.
Or they could just choose the devs that have actually played the game for a while to do it...
In case people forget, we actually have those.
Honestly, the only person that's part of the company I've ever seen play well is Queen.
There is an employee that played like 3000 hours somewhere too.
I have one on my friends list who has played for almost 9000 hours.
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@borna_lk said:
Then get lost, this is a post for people who have enough knowledge to know a serious gaming pc costs several thousand dollars while majority of the population work on Apple laptops which aren’t gaming capable whatsoeverThat message was for Slyclone158. Note their posting history.
PS: I don't care that people spend more money than they should on computers, nor that they work with inferior hardware. You're the one who brought it up in the first place. -
It's missing "None" as an option. Faulty poll.
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Never mind, I see you're just a spammer.
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I'd think it's dumb. If anything, it should stun the Survivor (stop wiggle progression) for a short period. Have you tried wiggling off of someone's shoulder after said shoulder gets hammered into your stomach? It's not easy.
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@RuneStarr said:
^Damn, there goes my hopes of playing nurse in VR and vomiting violently all over my living room
Just blink when she does. Easy.
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@borna_lk said:
I’ve boughten all the dlc because I support the game, I don’t buy cosmetics because they’re overpriced to line the devs pockets, not to increase the game quality. I have respect for a lot of members in the community but there’s some complete morons and most of them reside on pc with the same stupid answer to everything. “Buy a pc if you don’t like it,” but no I’m good fam, you can go ahead and spend several thousand on a computer that’ll outdate itself in 3 years. (Don’t bother saying ps will outdate itself in several years, because mine will cost me several hundred in depreciation, yours will cost thousands)My PC costs me about as much as a new console every 5-10 years, sometimes longer. New consoles come out about once every 5-10 years as well. The difference is that my PC will always be better than current-gen consoles, and even if I bought a console, I'd still need a PC to work on.
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@friendlykillermain said:
@Orion said:
@friendlykillermain said:
@Orion said:
That's why I prefer to succeed at being stealthy. Don't get seen, don't get caught, walk out of the gate without a care in the world.
unless of course there is a noed insidious nurse behind that gate
Dark Sense says hello.
but your against a nurse that probaly will be able to sense your plan because all nurses have some 6th sense bullshirt all except for me who will never be good at nurse
And what is the Nurse going to do about it? Can't counter Dark Sense.
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@friendlykillermain said:
@Orion said:
That's why I prefer to succeed at being stealthy. Don't get seen, don't get caught, walk out of the gate without a care in the world.
unless of course there is a noed insidious nurse behind that gate
Dark Sense says hello.
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That's why I prefer to succeed at being stealthy. Don't get seen, don't get caught, walk out of the gate without a care in the world.
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@Judgement said:
@AshleyWB said:
Imagine a killer who collects heads as trophys. Not gonna happen with this game but that would be creepy being the last survivor and the other survivors heads are strapped around the killers waist bobbing up and down. All the eyes jiggling with every footstep. Every attack the mouths open. OooofAlready got the Clown who collects fingers.
Like, fingers are understandable since they're a tiny part of the character model, but an entire head would be harder to excuse from 'vanishing into absolutely nowhere' like the fingers do. Fingers get a pass because they're so small.
Head collector would be dope though.It'd probably get the game banned in India due to similarities with Kali.
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@BACKSTABBER said:
ask truetalent, he also thinks it is so disgusting, and he is an authority of this gameHe is? Since when?
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@RuneStarr said:
Seriously, why don't we have a memes tag or subforum though. Some of us just want a funny escape from all the complaints
Off-topic category: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/categories/off-topic
Meme thread: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/18783/the-meme-pit#latest