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  • @AshleyWB said:
    The image of the man with the knife i interpretted as he's a psycho because he's lost his mind and he's killing people because he was turning into a wendigo which is why the reflections signified decay into a wendigo. 

    To summarise:
    I wanted something interesting. Just because I didn't see it doesn't disprove my theory being wrong. It just wasn't the one used. 

    You were wrong and your theory was bad. Admit it, embrace it, get over it. Scientists do it all the time.

  • @AshleyWB said:
    My theory of a wendigo was not wrong as it was a perfect fit to the clues. It wasn't wrong in terms of it didn't make sense like you are putting it.

    I tell you what I will make a bio or whatever for the Wendigo at some time just to prove how well my theory could have worked.  

    It fit one clue, which was the map, but it didn't fit any other clues, like the literal picture and name of the Killer.

  • @AshleyWB said:
    Just shows how little you've even taken notice of my theory onion nurse.

    So your reason why my Wendigo theory is wrong is because it's not the killer.

    I know that. What I'm saying is that it was perfectly suited to the chapter pre ptb release.

    We got a picture of the Killer and the name of the Killer pre-PTB, objectively proving you wrong.
    Quod erat demonstrandum.

    EDIT: And yes, the fact that you were wrong means your theory was wrong. I don't know why this is even a thing I have to explain.

  • @AshleyWB said:
    @AshleyWB vs @Orion

    TEST ME - You give me a clue suggesting it's The Legion. Then I say how this supports my Wendigo Theory.

    Only then can you claim I am/was wrong.

    I can already say you were wrong because the Killer is already available in the PTB and it is demonstrably not a Wendigo.

  • @AshleyWB said:
    Test me. If my theory is wrong I wouldn't be able to give an answer.

    Just because you can answer a question doesn't mean your answer is right or even good. Your theory was wrong from the start. Other than the map, everything else pointed away from a Wendigo.

  • @AshleyWB said:
    And my wendigo theory did fit. Test me.

    And the whole thing about how did the legion kill the skiier was a joke. I know he must have done it but you didn't even recognise it was a joke.

    Your theory didn't fit, which has been proven ad nauseam.

  • @AshleyWB said:
    @Crow so making a prediction and defending it screams mental illness to you?

    For your information I am one of the most sane people ever according to me, myself and I.

    Seriously though I was excited as I knew it was possible. You can't seem to tolerate excitement though.  You like many others seem to get a buzz from shooting down people's want for something creative and innovative. 

    The reason why others didn't come up with their own theories is likely down to the likes of you and the others who can't seem to want to cooperate just Shun the whole theory without even wanting to understand. 

    You talk about mental illness or whatever. What is wrong with these people who want to prove me wrong just to feel good? I cannot be wrong in theory because future content is undecided and it's a chapter idea which makes sense to cover.

    You wanted people to comment, which is why the first several comments were just you talking to yourself and any readers. People commented. They just didn't agree with you.

  • @AshleyWB said:
    @Orion I dismissed all criticism which said evidence didn't support my theory. Just like now because it did support my theory. And you're still saying it. They went with another killer but this doesn't prove my theory wrong. Just that the killer wasn't even covered at all. It could turn up in the next chapter and it would fit perfectly.

    Can you explain the dead body of the skier and make a link to this killer? Because with how weak this killer is I don't see the legion killing that skiier to DEATH. Your theory is flawed.

    It didn't support your theory, that's what we've been telling you. You were seeing what you wanted to see and ignoring blatant contradictions. You were demonstrably wrong.
    The dead body of the skier is, you guessed it, someone that the Killer killed. Read the Legion's backstory.

    You are wrong and have been wrong this entire time. You were not dismissing "invalid criticism"; you were dismissing people pointing out how wrong you were.

  • There's stealth. If you want to kill the Killer, that's what F13th is for.

  • @Crow said:
    That's just what someone obsessed with Wendigos would say.

    But I feel the urge to ask, where is that obsession coming from? Is it a mental illness? That would be cool, honestly.

    Could just be trying to artificially build hype, see if the devs give in.

  • @AshleyWB said:
    Lolololol this idiot said the new killer could be a Wendigo when its not. @AshleyWB Lololololol 

    My idea was creative, you just assumed oh a mad man with a knife was the killer in one image and you went with that because you were 99.9% right not because my idea didn't make sense.

    Yes, we all assumed the guy with the sharp, pointy stabby thing was the Killer, because all Killers have weapons, whereas no Survivors have weapons. If anyone called you an idiot, they were wrong to do so, but there was absolutely no reason to suspect a Wendigo after the teaser picture we got.

  • @AshleyWB said:
    Whoever thinks I'm obsessed just because I'm suggesting something and dismissing unfair criticism. I have to question What is it that you are hiding?  You must have something deep down inside you that you feel the need to deflect your feral nature upon an unsuspecting avatarless civilian who is making a suitable prediction.

    For the record I'm not obsessed with wendigos. If the next teaser makes me think oooooh Slender or oooooh Noo-noo from teletubies then I will get excited and look for clues supporting my theory. Especially when I'm the only one making a meal if it. 

    My theory wasn't wrong because my whole idea would have fit. However they didn't go with a wendigo because they probably would have had to put a lot of work into it. This new killer the legion has a more simple and aggressive playstyle which was probably needed. 

    Maybe next year. Or before then would do.

    You're not dismissing "unfair criticism"; you're dismissing any and all criticism pointing out how you're wrong. You literally believed that all signs pointed to a Wendigo, despite the blatant contradiction between that and the teaser picture we got.

  • @yeet said:
    you're not gonna run M&A on legion, you're gonna run distressing

    M&A is better. Get the first hit in a "sneak" attack, trigger the chase conditions, get an increased terror radius for the power's effect.

  • @Vietfox said:
    I think it's because if the new killer was running nurses that would be too broken, survivor would have no chance to escape.
    Survivor doesnt heal? Dying state + notification of survivors location
    Survivor does heal? Survivor's aura is revealed.

    ^This. Deep Wound and Mend do need changes, but this isn't one of them.

  • @springday said:

    @yeet said:

    @twistedmonkey said:

    @yeet said:

    "If you're a competitive person screw you!"

    I rest my case, a clear case of the game should be made for how I want to play, screw the devs and every other player I want it my way.

    competitive balance will ALWAYS be better than casual balance

    Are you aware this isn't a competitive game ?
    There are no means for this to be a competitive game, what Skill you have and others don't ? You are good at running around a car, or wait, you are good at strategicaly defending the hook ? spare me some time

    this game was meant as a casual / have fun with friends game, not for wanna be's go pro dudes

    Then it shouldn't have a ranking system. Clearly, the devs want to split players by skill level, and if they want to do that, they need to balance the game at the top.

  • @Crow said:
    Ashley you are obsessed with the Wendigo as I'm obsessed with plague doctors.

    Next Killer is Plague Doctor confirmed?

  • @twistedmonkey said:

    @yeet said:

    "If you're a competitive person screw you!"

    I rest my case, a clear case of the game should be made for how I want to play, screw the devs and every other player I want it my way.

    When you balance games at the top, players of equal skill have an equal chance to win. This is healthy for the game and doesn't result in frustrating matches.
    When you balance an asymmetrical game at the middle, however, the strong side will be underpowered at the top, resulting in frustrating matches for both sides.

  • @The_Crusader said:
    He doesn't just get deep wound though, he injures them too.

    He's ridiculously strong at that. You can go to their spawn, press M2 and have all 4 injured in 20 seconds. No other killer comes close.

    So the mend is 15/16 seconds, then they have to either heal on top of that which will take forever if they self-care, or they run around the game basically exposed.

    He definitely slows down the game. People are too focused on mend.

    I can tell you as a survivor that due to how quickly this guy can get you it's incredibly annoying having to mend all the time. Add to that the fact that you're always getting injured too then personally I don't think it needs a buff.

    I think they need a small buff, but other than that, it's the Deep Wound and Mend mechanics that need some changes.

  • @The_Crusader said:
    Like how survivors didn't know how to play against Freddy so they cried out for nerfs.

    Now killers don't know how to play Legion so they're calling for buffs that would make him OP?

    Most of the complaints I've seen are focused around the Deep Wound mechanic, rather than the Legion themselves.

  • @SinfulOne said:
    Begs the question, if you don’t have a job, how do you not have time to grind the shards?

    The developers spend money on the development of this content by paying the employees and such, they need to make money back to do so. Which they are already taking a large chunk of that out of their pocket by even offering the shards payment method.

    Also, 16 is the legal age to get a job for Americans. Forgive my ignorance on other parts of the world, but if you’re American, why not get a part time job or something?

    Non-adults without jobs usually have classes.

  • @dennis said:
    As Killers said the previous patch, ADAPT, sweeties

    Every time Killers adapted, Survivors cried out for nerfs. Shows what you know about DbD's history.

  • @Avariku said:
    lmao. this whole thread just proves that the community is pathetic. I've had lagswitchers on xbone as well.  I don't dc, but thats usually cause I still want whatever points I've been able to get. 

    meanwhile, people are actually defending lagswitching. lmao. 
    can't wait for the " It'S a LeGiT sTrAtEgY" comment. 

    even if you're not defending lagswitching specifically, just seems like you're arguing to argue. 

    DC if you want, but understand there will be consequences for it. its stupid in this situation, but having bhvr trying to determine when a dc is warranted or when it wasn't is going to be difficult and there's many other things they should be focusing on.

    (like banning lagswitchers to begin with)

    Who was defending lagswitching in this thread? Please point them out to me, along with the comment where they're defending lagswitching.

  • @The_Crusader said:
    What do you mean?

    I remember one guy (banned now, I think/hope) who said he lagswitched when Survivors looped for too long or were in SWF. He said something along the lines of "If they don't play fair, why should I?"
    People will always find ways to rationalize doing things they know are wrong. They don't just want to do it; they want to feel good about doing it. OP, lagswitchers, they're all the same in the end - justifying behavior they know is wrong.

  • @The_Crusader said:
    Its funny when you loop the guy for ages and its all smooth and then all of a sudden the connection goes to crap and he hits you when you're teleporting all over.

    Very suspicious.

    They justify it to themselves, just like OP did.

  • @purebalance said:

    @Arsoul said:

    @Orion said:

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    @Arsoul said:
    Stop being to petty, you know exactly what they are saying.
    Like it or not, you DCing on a lagswitching is still breaking the rules (right or wrong) it is what it is

    No they already broke the rules with a more serious infraction. Try again. So you're just supposed to sit there and take it if someone assaults you because you think they'll claim assaulting them back is a crime? Yeah no it's self defense. Try again.

    You were not assaulted, and this isn't real life. Your analogies and reaction speak volumes about your current state of mind, so I recommend you take a chill pill and sleep it off.

    My account was assault by having someone cheat against me. I'm allowed to do what I need to do to prevent it. Your analogies are the ones that are baseless and mean nothing. But hey keep trying to act like you're right when you're completely wrong and just an illogical person in general. I can't wait for someone to hit you in real life and see what you do since assaulting someone is illegal and according to you, you cannot assault them back.

    When you're assaulted, what you do in response becomes self-defense. However, there are still limits to self-defense. But thanks for wishing harm upon me just because I pointed out that you're just as wrong as the lagswitcher.
    When someone is cheating, DCing is still DCing.

    Except it isn't. It's getting away from the cheater without rewarding them. Go take a nap yourself. You're ranting the same wrong bullshit over and over. Disconnecting from a lagswitcher is self defense.

    Except it is. It's rewarding the lagswitcher with your ragequitting instead of reporting them.

    You can report after, but lie more. Now you're changing goal posts. Weird that it's perfectly legal to [BAD WORD] on the hook rather than dc. But hey you're going to make more and more claims that are wrong. Get out of this thread already and go exercise rather than sitting and producing fallacious accounts and lies. You're also missing the point earlier that reports do nothing on console and that their intent is to go for DC before anything as they've laid out.

    I said from the start that you should just wait until you die (go AFK, don't give them any satisfaction) and report them afterward.
    No, I didn't know you could report them afterward. Unlike you, I don't have enough experience with DCing to know it.
    Why are you being so hostile?

    He's wrong and he knows it

    Except I'm 100% right and you both know it and you're just arguing because you lagswitch and want free kills. That's what I'm getting from this. "Just endure getting lagswitched so I can get my points and on console I don't get banned and they're going after DC first so yay" Yupp I'm totally the wrong one. Lagswitch more.

    I don't lagswitch. Even if I was prone to cheating, I can't be bothered. I also don't own the game on console. Hell, I don't even own the console itself.
    Yes, you are the wrong one. You're literally throwing out false accusations because you can't just admit how wrong you are.

  • @Orion said:

    @twistedmonkey said:
    Orion is offering an olive branch, take it and take turns playing both sides.

    Most PTB's everyone want to try the killer, survivor lobbies generally pop faster for that reason, its just how it is, there is also no incentive to play the PTB for a lot of people when they can just play the normal game and keep farming, if they rewarded every person who played a certain amount of time to help test with 250k bloodpoints I would bet a lot more would play it.

    They won't take it. I've suggested this countless times, even opened threads, but nobody ever replies back.

    Yup. KYF group suggestion is mentioned, OP vanishes into thin air.

  • They usually fix issues, but Rin was released in an unintended state.

  • @Orion said:

    @LvGamer34 said:

    @Orion said:
    Everyone wants to play Killer. Get a group that you can play KYF with and rotate who plays Killer.

    You don't get what i'm saying.... NOT everyone can.

    Wrong. Nobody wants to. I've made threads during several PTBs, asking for groups to play with. I commented in threads just like this, and people always ignore the "group" suggestion.

    Another OP bites the dust after the KYF group solution is mentioned.

  • @Arsoul said:

    @Orion said:

    @purebalance said:

    @Orion said:

    @purebalance said:

    @Orion said:

    @purebalance said:

    @Orion said:

    @purebalance said:

    @Arsoul said:
    Stop being to petty, you know exactly what they are saying.
    Like it or not, you DCing on a lagswitching is still breaking the rules (right or wrong) it is what it is

    No they already broke the rules with a more serious infraction. Try again. So you're just supposed to sit there and take it if someone assaults you because you think they'll claim assaulting them back is a crime? Yeah no it's self defense. Try again.

    You were not assaulted, and this isn't real life. Your analogies and reaction speak volumes about your current state of mind, so I recommend you take a chill pill and sleep it off.

    My account was assault by having someone cheat against me. I'm allowed to do what I need to do to prevent it. Your analogies are the ones that are baseless and mean nothing. But hey keep trying to act like you're right when you're completely wrong and just an illogical person in general. I can't wait for someone to hit you in real life and see what you do since assaulting someone is illegal and according to you, you cannot assault them back.

    When you're assaulted, what you do in response becomes self-defense. However, there are still limits to self-defense. But thanks for wishing harm upon me just because I pointed out that you're just as wrong as the lagswitcher.
    When someone is cheating, DCing is still DCing.

    Except it isn't. It's getting away from the cheater without rewarding them. Go take a nap yourself. You're ranting the same wrong bullshit over and over. Disconnecting from a lagswitcher is self defense.

    Except it is. It's rewarding the lagswitcher with your ragequitting instead of reporting them.

    You can report after, but lie more. Now you're changing goal posts. Weird that it's perfectly legal to [BAD WORD] on the hook rather than dc. But hey you're going to make more and more claims that are wrong. Get out of this thread already and go exercise rather than sitting and producing fallacious accounts and lies. You're also missing the point earlier that reports do nothing on console and that their intent is to go for DC before anything as they've laid out.

    I said from the start that you should just wait until you die (go AFK, don't give them any satisfaction) and report them afterward.
    No, I didn't know you could report them afterward. Unlike you, I don't have enough experience with DCing to know it.
    Why are you being so hostile?

    He's wrong and he knows it

    That's my hypothesis as well.

  • @purebalance said:

    @Orion said:

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    @Orion said:

    @purebalance said:

    @Orion said:

    @purebalance said:

    @Orion said:

    @purebalance said:

    @Arsoul said:
    Stop being to petty, you know exactly what they are saying.
    Like it or not, you DCing on a lagswitching is still breaking the rules (right or wrong) it is what it is

    No they already broke the rules with a more serious infraction. Try again. So you're just supposed to sit there and take it if someone assaults you because you think they'll claim assaulting them back is a crime? Yeah no it's self defense. Try again.

    You were not assaulted, and this isn't real life. Your analogies and reaction speak volumes about your current state of mind, so I recommend you take a chill pill and sleep it off.

    My account was assault by having someone cheat against me. I'm allowed to do what I need to do to prevent it. Your analogies are the ones that are baseless and mean nothing. But hey keep trying to act like you're right when you're completely wrong and just an illogical person in general. I can't wait for someone to hit you in real life and see what you do since assaulting someone is illegal and according to you, you cannot assault them back.

    When you're assaulted, what you do in response becomes self-defense. However, there are still limits to self-defense. But thanks for wishing harm upon me just because I pointed out that you're just as wrong as the lagswitcher.
    When someone is cheating, DCing is still DCing.

    Except it isn't. It's getting away from the cheater without rewarding them. Go take a nap yourself. You're ranting the same wrong bullshit over and over. Disconnecting from a lagswitcher is self defense.

    Except it is. It's rewarding the lagswitcher with your ragequitting instead of reporting them.

    You can report after, but lie more. Now you're changing goal posts. Weird that it's perfectly legal to [BAD WORD] on the hook rather than dc. But hey you're going to make more and more claims that are wrong. Get out of this thread already and go exercise rather than sitting and producing fallacious accounts and lies. You're also missing the point earlier that reports do nothing on console and that their intent is to go for DC before anything as they've laid out.

    I said from the start that you should just wait until you die (go AFK, don't give them any satisfaction) and report them afterward.
    No, I didn't know you could report them afterward. Unlike you, I don't have enough experience with DCing to know it.
    Why are you being so hostile?

    Awwww calling you out on your ######### is being hostile? What are you Huffington Post?

    Going afk gives them 100% satisfaction because they get their 4 kill they didn't deserve. Also I had two games this week where people were point farming with the killer and mad I finished the gens so they'd stand there with the killer and down me and heal me. Explain WHAT I could do there other than DC? You expect me to wait an hour for them all to get their points? Bullshit.

    I'm just wondering why you're actively going out of your way to insult me in every comment even though all I've been doing is pointing out that DCing is just as against the rules as lagswitching. I don't really care that you do it, I'm just curious.

  • @purebalance said:

    @Orion said:

    @purebalance said:

    @Orion said:

    @purebalance said:

    @Orion said:

    @purebalance said:

    @Arsoul said:
    Stop being to petty, you know exactly what they are saying.
    Like it or not, you DCing on a lagswitching is still breaking the rules (right or wrong) it is what it is

    No they already broke the rules with a more serious infraction. Try again. So you're just supposed to sit there and take it if someone assaults you because you think they'll claim assaulting them back is a crime? Yeah no it's self defense. Try again.

    You were not assaulted, and this isn't real life. Your analogies and reaction speak volumes about your current state of mind, so I recommend you take a chill pill and sleep it off.

    My account was assault by having someone cheat against me. I'm allowed to do what I need to do to prevent it. Your analogies are the ones that are baseless and mean nothing. But hey keep trying to act like you're right when you're completely wrong and just an illogical person in general. I can't wait for someone to hit you in real life and see what you do since assaulting someone is illegal and according to you, you cannot assault them back.

    When you're assaulted, what you do in response becomes self-defense. However, there are still limits to self-defense. But thanks for wishing harm upon me just because I pointed out that you're just as wrong as the lagswitcher.
    When someone is cheating, DCing is still DCing.

    Except it isn't. It's getting away from the cheater without rewarding them. Go take a nap yourself. You're ranting the same wrong bullshit over and over. Disconnecting from a lagswitcher is self defense.

    Except it is. It's rewarding the lagswitcher with your ragequitting instead of reporting them.

    You can report after, but lie more. Now you're changing goal posts. Weird that it's perfectly legal to [BAD WORD] on the hook rather than dc. But hey you're going to make more and more claims that are wrong. Get out of this thread already and go exercise rather than sitting and producing fallacious accounts and lies. You're also missing the point earlier that reports do nothing on console and that their intent is to go for DC before anything as they've laid out.

    I said from the start that you should just wait until you die (go AFK, don't give them any satisfaction) and report them afterward.
    No, I didn't know you could report them afterward. Unlike you, I don't have enough experience with DCing to know it.
    Why are you being so hostile?

  • @purebalance said:

    @Orion said:

    @purebalance said:

    @Orion said:

    @purebalance said:

    @Arsoul said:
    Stop being to petty, you know exactly what they are saying.
    Like it or not, you DCing on a lagswitching is still breaking the rules (right or wrong) it is what it is

    No they already broke the rules with a more serious infraction. Try again. So you're just supposed to sit there and take it if someone assaults you because you think they'll claim assaulting them back is a crime? Yeah no it's self defense. Try again.

    You were not assaulted, and this isn't real life. Your analogies and reaction speak volumes about your current state of mind, so I recommend you take a chill pill and sleep it off.

    My account was assault by having someone cheat against me. I'm allowed to do what I need to do to prevent it. Your analogies are the ones that are baseless and mean nothing. But hey keep trying to act like you're right when you're completely wrong and just an illogical person in general. I can't wait for someone to hit you in real life and see what you do since assaulting someone is illegal and according to you, you cannot assault them back.

    When you're assaulted, what you do in response becomes self-defense. However, there are still limits to self-defense. But thanks for wishing harm upon me just because I pointed out that you're just as wrong as the lagswitcher.
    When someone is cheating, DCing is still DCing.

    Except it isn't. It's getting away from the cheater without rewarding them. Go take a nap yourself. You're ranting the same wrong bullshit over and over. Disconnecting from a lagswitcher is self defense.

    Except it is. It's rewarding the lagswitcher with your ragequitting instead of reporting them.

  • @LvGamer34 said:

    @Orion said:
    Everyone wants to play Killer. Get a group that you can play KYF with and rotate who plays Killer.

    You don't get what i'm saying.... NOT everyone can.

    Wrong. Nobody wants to. I've made threads during several PTBs, asking for groups to play with. I commented in threads just like this, and people always ignore the "group" suggestion.

  • @purebalance said:

    @Orion said:

    @purebalance said:

    @Arsoul said:
    Stop being to petty, you know exactly what they are saying.
    Like it or not, you DCing on a lagswitching is still breaking the rules (right or wrong) it is what it is

    No they already broke the rules with a more serious infraction. Try again. So you're just supposed to sit there and take it if someone assaults you because you think they'll claim assaulting them back is a crime? Yeah no it's self defense. Try again.

    You were not assaulted, and this isn't real life. Your analogies and reaction speak volumes about your current state of mind, so I recommend you take a chill pill and sleep it off.

    My account was assault by having someone cheat against me. I'm allowed to do what I need to do to prevent it. Your analogies are the ones that are baseless and mean nothing. But hey keep trying to act like you're right when you're completely wrong and just an illogical person in general. I can't wait for someone to hit you in real life and see what you do since assaulting someone is illegal and according to you, you cannot assault them back.

    When you're assaulted, what you do in response becomes self-defense. However, there are still limits to self-defense. But thanks for wishing harm upon me just because I pointed out that you're just as wrong as the lagswitcher.
    When someone is cheating, DCing is still DCing.

  • Everyone wants to play Killer. Get a group that you can play KYF with and rotate who plays Killer.

  • @purebalance said:

    @Arsoul said:
    Stop being to petty, you know exactly what they are saying.
    Like it or not, you DCing on a lagswitching is still breaking the rules (right or wrong) it is what it is

    No they already broke the rules with a more serious infraction. Try again. So you're just supposed to sit there and take it if someone assaults you because you think they'll claim assaulting them back is a crime? Yeah no it's self defense. Try again.

    You were not assaulted, and this isn't real life. Your analogies and reaction speak volumes about your current state of mind, so I recommend you take a chill pill and sleep it off.

  • @purebalance said:

    @Orion said:

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    Uh no he deserves nothing so the 625 is all he gets. Has NOTHING to do with rationalizing and everything to do with justice. Go make me a sandwich since you're doing nothing with your worthless comment.

    "Justice" is not "Everyone needs to accept my reasons for doing something I know is wrong". Don't blame the guy cheating at Monopoly for you setting the board on fire.

    lol so lagswitching is ok? Yeah keep thinking that. Stop posting because you're clearly and provably wrong.

    And your analogy is 100% fallacious. It'd be "Don't blame the guy cheating at Monopoly from you abandoning the match when you see he's cheating" Me setting the board on fire would be me going to the dev studio and blowing it up or going to the killer's house and pulling all of their internet wires from the neighborhood.

    I didn't say lagswitching was OK, so why are you pretending I did?

    You're right, the analogy could use some work. How about this: Don't blame the guy taking money from the bank for you taking money from him.
    Both of you are breaking the rules, and both of you are responsible for your own actions. It's your fault you're disconnecting on purpose, and nobody else's. It's your choice to do it, no matter how much you want to put the blame on the other guy, just as it was his choice to lagswitch.

    DC'ing from a lagswitcher SHOULDN'T be against the rules.

    Your analogy is still awful. Once again it would be "Blame the guy taking money from the bank by taking your money out before he can"

    Shouldn't be, but it is, so you knowingly broke the rules.
    My analogy is fine. Yours just makes you look like the good guy when you knowingly broke the rules just as much as the lagswitcher did. It's no surprise, given the bias you demonstrated.

    Where does it say DC'ing from a lagswitcher is? Sorry, they already broke the rules, you're free to go. Try again. Your analogy is terrible because I'm not stealing from anyone. If anything it would be I'm stopping him from robbing the bank. Just stop. You're trash and wrong.

    DCing is against the rules, no exceptions. There's a certain tolerance for important things like real-life issues, but you did break the rules.

  • @purebalance said:

    @Orion said:

    @purebalance said:

    @Orion said:

    @purebalance said:
    Uh no he deserves nothing so the 625 is all he gets. Has NOTHING to do with rationalizing and everything to do with justice. Go make me a sandwich since you're doing nothing with your worthless comment.

    "Justice" is not "Everyone needs to accept my reasons for doing something I know is wrong". Don't blame the guy cheating at Monopoly for you setting the board on fire.

    lol so lagswitching is ok? Yeah keep thinking that. Stop posting because you're clearly and provably wrong.

    And your analogy is 100% fallacious. It'd be "Don't blame the guy cheating at Monopoly from you abandoning the match when you see he's cheating" Me setting the board on fire would be me going to the dev studio and blowing it up or going to the killer's house and pulling all of their internet wires from the neighborhood.

    I didn't say lagswitching was OK, so why are you pretending I did?

    You're right, the analogy could use some work. How about this: Don't blame the guy taking money from the bank for you taking money from him.
    Both of you are breaking the rules, and both of you are responsible for your own actions. It's your fault you're disconnecting on purpose, and nobody else's. It's your choice to do it, no matter how much you want to put the blame on the other guy, just as it was his choice to lagswitch.

    DC'ing from a lagswitcher SHOULDN'T be against the rules.

    Your analogy is still awful. Once again it would be "Blame the guy taking money from the bank by taking your money out before he can"

    Shouldn't be, but it is, so you knowingly broke the rules.
    My analogy is fine. Yours just makes you look like the good guy when you knowingly broke the rules just as much as the lagswitcher did. It's no surprise, given the bias you demonstrated.

  • @purebalance said:

    @Orion said:

    @purebalance said:
    Uh no he deserves nothing so the 625 is all he gets. Has NOTHING to do with rationalizing and everything to do with justice. Go make me a sandwich since you're doing nothing with your worthless comment.

    "Justice" is not "Everyone needs to accept my reasons for doing something I know is wrong". Don't blame the guy cheating at Monopoly for you setting the board on fire.

    lol so lagswitching is ok? Yeah keep thinking that. Stop posting because you're clearly and provably wrong.

    And your analogy is 100% fallacious. It'd be "Don't blame the guy cheating at Monopoly from you abandoning the match when you see he's cheating" Me setting the board on fire would be me going to the dev studio and blowing it up or going to the killer's house and pulling all of their internet wires from the neighborhood.

    I didn't say lagswitching was OK, so why are you pretending I did?

    You're right, the analogy could use some work. How about this: Don't blame the guy taking money from the bank for you taking money from him.
    Both of you are breaking the rules, and both of you are responsible for your own actions. It's your fault you're disconnecting on purpose, and nobody else's. It's your choice to do it, no matter how much you want to put the blame on the other guy, just as it was his choice to lagswitch.

  • @purebalance said:
    Uh no he deserves nothing so the 625 is all he gets. Has NOTHING to do with rationalizing and everything to do with justice. Go make me a sandwich since you're doing nothing with your worthless comment.

    "Justice" is not "Everyone needs to accept my reasons for doing something I know is wrong". Don't blame the guy cheating at Monopoly for you setting the board on fire. You are responsible for your actions, just as the Killer is responsible for theirs.

  • Yeah, just because you feel justified in doing something you know is wrong doesn't mean everyone needs to accept your rationalization. Just go make yourself a sandwich, report the guy afterward, and move on.

  • @Juya said:

    @redsopine01 said:
    You do realize to mend you have to have bt itself equipped right

    Can you show the source? From what everyone says you don't need any perk to mend.

    You don't need any perk to Mend.

  • The Legion is more or less fine; it's Deep Wound and Mend that need some changes.

  • @twistedmonkey said:
    Orion is offering an olive branch, take it and take turns playing both sides.

    Most PTB's everyone want to try the killer, survivor lobbies generally pop faster for that reason, its just how it is, there is also no incentive to play the PTB for a lot of people when they can just play the normal game and keep farming, if they rewarded every person who played a certain amount of time to help test with 250k bloodpoints I would bet a lot more would play it.

    They won't take it. I've suggested this countless times, even opened threads, but nobody ever replies back.

  • @mememanxd said:

    @TheBean said:
    Edit... One more issue is the Devs don't seem to like to inform players when they do the snapshot of the live save files. So you can't plan ahead of time to have 1 million BP before starting the PTB. If you don't have the points then you have to actually earn up some points to spend. So 100% complete waste of time to spend a couple of hours leveling up so you can try a couple of things and get no reward for doing it.

    This part is by far the biggest reason why I don't bother.

    This is so stupid. I still don't understand how they cannot just give everybody every perk, addon and offering in the PTB. And make it unranked. Since there is no risk and no reward, it's just to test things out, why not do that? I mean, how can I test the new killer when I get loaded into the game with (no joke) <4000 bloodpoints. I am playing with 1 perk. #########? At least let me try perk combinations and his addons. Cause I'm not gonna be able to farm them when it takes 30 minutes to get a full lobby.

    Get a group and play KYF. You'll have access to everything. Note how you ignored my suggestion, as per usual with people who complain about this.

  • @Vietfox said:
    Breaking news, hit the others or grab them while performing the rescue.

    Hit, and they can rescue, thus triggering BT. Because the grab can be cancelled before the animation actually ends, there's only one Killer that can reliably grab them (the Doctor), meaning that you'll likely hit them, thus allowing them to rescue, thus triggering BT.

  • @TheBean said:
    Why play the PTB... When you can freely use every good addon / item or offering without losing them.

    You get no points.

    Once you see the content all you can think about is how you'd rather be in the live game so that you can...

    Get points.

    People still try hard on the PTB, so why bother playing try hard in the PTB when you can try hard in regular matches and get.....

    Points.

    No bloodpoints... No rewards.... No point.

    Quod erat demonstrandum, OP.

  • @Vietfox said:
    Breaking news, not camping prevents BT from triggering.

    Breaking news, hookswarming triggers BT regardless of what the Killer does.
    More breaking news, you already knew this and were being disingenuous.

  • @Swiftblade131 said:
    If BT activates, can you still down them like normal? Or does it act like the Frenzy state of Legion?

    Borrowed Time now grants the Deep Wound status effect if it triggers. The Deep Wound status effect is the same effect granted by the Legion if he attacks while using his power (Frenzy).

  • @ad19970 said:

    @Raccoon said:
    Oh, I've made sure that tunneling is no longer an option in my killer PTB games. 

    I appreciate the suggestion and implicit acknowledgment that perks such as Dying Light and Remember Me have received a minor nerf as a result. 

    How were those two perks nerfed?

    Dying Light requires you to focus on making sure one Survivor dies ASAP. Remember Me requires hitting one Survivor multiple times.

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