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So to sum up.
You want the old DS, just that everybody has the non-obession version and that it cant be dribbled anymore.
Ehm yeah, how about no?
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I will jump in and answer the questions
1) Soon TM
2) Two or one week before the actual patch is scheduled
3) yes
4) no, optimization is a "continous progress"
5)noIm pretty confident that I got the answers right
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@Eveline said:
before they do unsafe unhooking.
Why would they?
All tools for completely safe unsafe unhooks are there.
We have invulnerability during unhooking, cancelable unhooking animation, messed up hitboxes at the hook, Borrowed time (buffed by mending), now we additionally got DS.Did I forget sth?
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@thekiller490490 said:
Enduring makes DS's stun last 0.75 seconds. This means Enduring basically FULLY counters a DS hit.I love it.
Making another perk basically "have to" on the killers side..... I really really dont like that tbh.
guess almsot every killer will run BBQ+ruin+enduring+4th perk soon
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DS definitely needed change, but I dont know whether the current suggestion is the right approach.
Enduring will become necessary, it will be included in any killer build just like ruin and BBQ i guess.
Also 60 seconds is an absurdly long time, that has nothing to do with "anti tunnel" anymore. Also dont underestimate the fact that a killer doesnt know whether the survivor has DS and that you cant dribble to hook anymore / no non-obsession DS anymore.
if you ask me, slugging will increase by a lot (always hated by survivors), camping downed survivors and all that stuff.
I really dont know whether this is the right approach, I wish the devs would ahve completely reworked the perk and came up with something totally new
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M&A, BBQ, ruin, sloppy
If you want to use mori addons or a mori, then you can go for dying light aswell
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@Spork said:
The change to Object of Obsession isn't really fair, if you don't use D-strike with it you'll possibly get the perk taken AWAY from you, by another Survivor if they run D-Strike. Just keep it how it is, if you're not Obsession the range is shortened.OoO has to be reworked anyway, SWF abuse it so much
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@CronaWins said:
@Master said:
You do realize that the number of perk slots is limited to 4 and you simply dont have enough slots to counter all the core design flaws?Even the few perks you mentioned exceed the limit already.... learn and adapt lul
You do realise i said Franklin's Demise for items in my first sentence right?
And everything i mentioned apart from deadhard and DS was an item right?If the survivors bring 4 insta-meds you're not going to bring lightborn are you? lul
You do realize that items can be picked up again?
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@ShrekIsHot said:
@Artisks said:
clown without addons is one of the worst killers lmao.I had Clown at 0 perks, 0 add ons when I first played and got him and I got a 4k lmao. 2 gens done.
Against some survivors it doesnt matter what you do.
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Why would you use no mither and unbreakable
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@DexyIV said:
Only took them 3 yearsFixed it for you
And its not live btw, remember what happened to the hatch closing mechanic
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If will have lots of side effects the devs probably havent thought about yet.
I dont believe its a perfect solution, but we will see once its live -
@ArthurFiNCHr said:
Let's be honest, is there anyone who REALLY thinks that this perk will be used when those changes will be introduced to the game?Why wouldnt it be used? Survivors complain about being tunneled all the time
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@DexyIV said:
Killers tunnel. This is a way to counter it. DS needs a weakspot and a niche instead of a get out of jail free card. This also motivates killers to not tunnel because then survivors will actually be able to use their DS if they do. It's a win win.Thats debatable.
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@Jarmariel said:
Are we be able to use DS twice since now? The description only describes we can use it after be unhooked.No it deactivates after the first try
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Change noed? Why and into what?
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@CrimsonTyd79 said:
Once again you're making it harder on the survivors and making it easier for killers. This makes me regret buying Laurie to get decisive strike.You went through the effort of creating an accoutn to write this? lul
@Orion said:
@Master said:
@CrimsonTyd79 said:
Once again you're making it harder on the survivors and making it easier for killers. This makes me regret buying Laurie to get decisive strike.You went through the effort of creating an accoutn to write this? lul
Initially, it said "Kate" instead of "Laurie". It was hilarious.
Yep, well done lads, talking ######### to new users congratulations aren't you just the greatest welcoming committee.
Thanks, I will always trashtalk trashtalkers. If they want to have a reasonable conversation, then they need to bring up reasonable arguments.
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@CrimsonTyd79 said:
Once again you're making it harder on the survivors and making it easier for killers. This makes me regret buying Laurie to get decisive strike.You went through the effort of creating an accoutn to write this? lul
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@Caretaker said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
You could take enduring and practically make it useless
Enduring doesn't counter DS. I don't get why you people think this, but no, it doesn't.
While it doesnt counter the current DS, it seems like it has a bigger impact on the new one
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@Poweas said:
@Master said:
@Delfador said:
If the survivors still stagger, enduring is a hard counter to DS right now, very hard counter.https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/7n9vug/enduring_3_vs_decisive_strike_1/
The reason why it wasn't in the past was because DS 3 gave you 5 seconds.
The new DS 3 gives you 3 seconds just like old DS 1.
As you can see from the clip, survivor can not even reach the pallet if the killer has enduring.
Ah well the new DS has a coutner then at least
OMG MASTER! I can't believe me and you agree for once when it comes to DS. Never thought I'd see the day!
Well in the new video it looks like enduring is a counter to DS indeed.
But lets wait and look at what BHVR releases into the PTB/Live build^^ -
We all wish, but dont get your hopes high.... its BHVR.... only one change at a time
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@TAG said:
@holywhitetrash said:
this change seems like a nerf to every killer obsession perk (except rancor), maxed out your stacks of "save the best for last" and get the obsession dead... and now there is a new obsessionalso now every survivor can Dstrike twice
Potentially big buff to Judith's Journal, though. Imagine getting D-striked, tanking most of the stun with Endurance, being able to rapidly build Evil Within with Judith's Journal since that player is now the Obsession, and then finishing them off with Tombstone Piece. If multiple people have Decisive Strike, that's multiple chances to take advantage of the increased stalk speed.
Interesting, havent thought about that.
Im gonna spend my last myers addons right now and P3 him (just in case ), was overdue anyway^^ -
@Daveer said:
it required skills (Skill check)Good one
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Am I understand correctly that you want to use DS multiple times?
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@ToxicFengM1n said:
@KrustyNuggets said:
Thanks BHVR for ruining yet another survivor perk, did you take into account Enduring will make it a 1 second stun? The fact that slugging will become a thing again? You keep nerfing survivors, the CORE of your player base, and you will kill this game. I hope all the reddit killers and cry baby Tru3 are happy they are helping to kill this game.huh, nerfing one of the most op perks in the game is killing it?
now last piece is killer is the CORE player baseNah it means nerfing HIS playstyle.
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@fcc2014 said:
@Master said:
Im going to practice my slugg builds in the next days, seems like im gonna need them lul
Those SWF hit squads everyone talks about, well this might make more of them. I also think this will hurt weaker killers(the Character not the actual player) who have to tunnel with certain killers to have some success because they can't apply map pressure.
Well you gotta stay in the rank region where you belong as an unviable killer....
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@fcc2014 said:
@Master said:
@Ihatelife said:
The last person who hit you with the DS, will be your obsession. So basically it doesn't counter.You dont understand.
The last DS user will become the obsession which means that the obession will never be scarificed, making dying light completely obsolete. At least thats how I understand it?@Master would it make save the best for last OP?
Mhm I dont know, you just picked up the survivor, he DSed and you would be forced to let him go and search for another one.... if there is someoen nearby, perfect, but if not, then your wasting a lot of time
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Im going to practice my slugg builds in the next days, seems like im gonna need them lul
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@Ihatelife said:
The last person who hit you with the DS, will be your obsession. So basically it doesn't counter.You dont understand.
The last DS user will become the obsession which means that the obession will never be scarificed, making dying light completely obsolete. At least thats how I understand it? -
@Delfador said:
If the survivors still stagger, enduring is a hard counter to DS right now, very hard counter.https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/7n9vug/enduring_3_vs_decisive_strike_1/
The reason why it wasn't in the past was because DS 3 gave you 5 seconds.
The new DS 3 gives you 3 seconds just like old DS 1.
As you can see from the clip, survivor can not even reach the pallet if the killer has enduring.
Ah well the new DS has a coutner then at least
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I dont think that DS actualyl got nerfed tbh.
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@DarkGGhost said:
The new DS have no counter play , yes you can have a Mori or camp them to death but only that. The new DS give no clue if the survivors have DS , you can't dripping them ( it instantly) and the skill check is bigger just why ?
One better way to do it will be keep the new DS but the timer will be 10/20/30 at best the killer can dripping them and for me personally only the first survivor can use the DS all the other survivors will lose it for the rest of the game. But rly now devs how you make it worst what will be next NOED that give you 1% speed for every gen done, no exposed effect and you can lose it from the start of the gameWelcome to the slugging meta.
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@Delfador said:
@Master said:
Yes there needs to be done sth about that, especially since rank is so irrelevant and it can easily happen that some p3 players verse guys with perks at lvl 1/2.I wish ranking would mean more and the game wasnt all about the BP grind
I might be wrong but I think he talks about unlocking killers with shards, not BP/Perk grind.
I agree with Senzu on this one, it shouldn't be easy and it is okay the way it is now.
Oh that one, but that takes too long aswell if you ask me.
its literally impossible to get enough shards within3 months to get both killer and survivor -
Yes there needs to be done sth about that, especially since rank is so irrelevant and it can easily happen that some p3 players verse guys with perks at lvl 1/2.
I wish ranking would mean more and the game wasnt all about the BP grind
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@Poweas said:
@Orion said:
@Poweas said:
@Master said:
@Poweas said:
@Master said:
@ToxicFengM1n said:
@BACKSTABBER said:
Peasant said:I honestly see nothing wrong with this.
It is a technique exploited by Legion to avoid hook rescue. It obviously should have priority unhooking more than mendself, since ur in front of the hooked for some reason lol
So you want us to buff camping and proxy camping?
Cause thats what you are asking forSurvivors wanted the BBQ aura to get nerfed aswell, so..... sometimes they really dont know what they want
What? Stop assuming survivors want BBQ nerfed. Most survivors don't even care about it anymore since they got lockers.
I dont need to assume, we have a long history of BBQ nerf posts
They don't show up anymore do they
16/02 - https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/46805/bbq-c-has-ruined-dbd
They show up very regularly.######### I don't even notice them.
The brain filters them out after some time, just like some background noise
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@IamFran said:
@friendlykillermain said:
@Master said:
Welcome to the life of an unviable killeri just want my trapper to be viable hes too much fun and having him be so weak is sad
Make more noise. Maybe one day in the future the devs will finally notice that Stitched bag should be in the base kit.
Even that wont really help him if we are honest.
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Welcome to the life of an unviable killer
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@Poweas said:
@Master said:
The animation is just a visual thing, they have nothing to do with hit detection.And yes, a killer can reach through the window and hit a survivor on the other side, just like in IRL ya know
You keep saying that but can Hag reach me when I'm about 3m away with her tiny hands? Answer is no. It's a hitbox thing.
And yet again, the animation is only visual.
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@brokedownpalace said:
You literally can't even point out a bug without these people making it a killer vs survivor conflict. The only thing stopping you from unhooking should be being hit or grabbed. Even in madness 3 you can unhook.How old are you, @Master? Grow up.
Who says that it is a bug and not a feature?
See looping e.g.
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@Poweas said:
@Master said:
@ToxicFengM1n said:
@BACKSTABBER said:
Peasant said:I honestly see nothing wrong with this.
It is a technique exploited by Legion to avoid hook rescue. It obviously should have priority unhooking more than mendself, since ur in front of the hooked for some reason lol
So you want us to buff camping and proxy camping?
Cause thats what you are asking forSurvivors wanted the BBQ aura to get nerfed aswell, so..... sometimes they really dont know what they want
What? Stop assuming survivors want BBQ nerfed. Most survivors don't even care about it anymore since they got lockers.
I dont need to assume, we have a long history of BBQ nerf posts
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@BACKSTABBER said:
Don't change the subject, BBQ is fine, just hide in lockersDevs fix that clear exploit
Read again
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@Artisks said:
hope every gen would be pretty much op, for example if you play against huntress or hag, they have pretty much no chance to catch you.Not just pretty much, with 3% more movement speed you are actually not able to catch up, considering the hitbox exploit also called looping
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@Huad said:
I want passive skill for survivors play easyPlaying survivor is already easy enough
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@HavelmomDaS1 said:
We have more serious problems with DbD than wasting time for easter eggs right now..Exactly
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@ToxicFengM1n said:
@Master said:
@ToxicFengM1n said:
@Master said:
@ToxicFengM1n said:
@BACKSTABBER said:
Peasant said:I honestly see nothing wrong with this.
It is a technique exploited by Legion to avoid hook rescue. It obviously should have priority unhooking more than mendself, since ur in front of the hooked for some reason lol
So you want us to buff camping and proxy camping?
Cause thats what you are asking forSurvivors wanted the BBQ aura to get nerfed aswell, so..... sometimes they really dont know what they want
Wow, I am a survivor main and I find that to be a terrible idea for a bbq nerf, BBQ is a balanced perk and I am not lying
Well then think about your idea.
If mending doesnt disable survivors from unhookign anymore, then this means that legiosn will have to stick closer to the hook. Do you want that?No, I said that It would promote camping, I dont want it
Oh never mind, I confused you with @BACKSTABBER
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@CronaWins said:
Easily counter-able. Franklin's Demise for items.Toolboxes? Run ruin.
Flashlights? Run Lightborn
Deadhard? Wait before swinging
Medkits? As stated, Franklin's Demise. Normal metkits? Sloppy butcher.
DS? Enduring or dribble to the hook.
Not sure how anything you mention is even remotely toxic since these are items in game.
Learn and adapt.
You do realize that the number of perk slots is limited to 4 and you simply dont have enough slots to counter all the core design flaws?
Even the few perks you mentioned exceed the limit already.... learn and adapt lul
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@LegitAdventurer said:
Not only do the SWF's get every single perk in the game, not only do they ALWAYS have an endless supply of purple toolboxes and literally infinite Brand New Parts, not only does every single SWF group start with 4 obsessions every single match no matter what, every single SWF ALSO has at LEAST 4 instaheal medkits, they ALSO all have Dead Hard and AT LEAST 6 flashlights every single game no matter what. THEY ALSO KICKED MY -BADWORD- CAT.SWF is defintely as toxic as the media portrays them to be. Make DBD great again. Remove all the survivors from the game devs. Please. Thank you.
Just lobby dodge until the devs balance stuff, but with such trollposts you will achieve nothing
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@ToxicFengM1n said:
@Master said:
@ToxicFengM1n said:
@BACKSTABBER said:
Peasant said:I honestly see nothing wrong with this.
It is a technique exploited by Legion to avoid hook rescue. It obviously should have priority unhooking more than mendself, since ur in front of the hooked for some reason lol
So you want us to buff camping and proxy camping?
Cause thats what you are asking forSurvivors wanted the BBQ aura to get nerfed aswell, so..... sometimes they really dont know what they want
Wow, I am a survivor main and I find that to be a terrible idea for a bbq nerf, BBQ is a balanced perk and I am not lying
Well then think about your idea.
If mending doesnt disable survivors from unhookign anymore, then this means that legiosn will have to stick closer to the hook. Do you want that? -
@The_Crusader said:
I can't wait until we get the DS nerf. I hear it's coming soon™Probably right aftre the patches with the freddy rework, the SC rework and the hatch closing mechanic
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@ToxicFengM1n said:
@BACKSTABBER said:
Peasant said:I honestly see nothing wrong with this.
It is a technique exploited by Legion to avoid hook rescue. It obviously should have priority unhooking more than mendself, since ur in front of the hooked for some reason lol
So you want us to buff camping and proxy camping?
Cause thats what you are asking forSurvivors wanted the BBQ aura to get nerfed aswell, so..... sometimes they really dont know what they want
