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@Onyx_Blue said:
So many times i'll have a certain hit and the camera gets pulled towards a gen, pallet, window, wall etc that wasn't even in my lunge or slash vision. I could even be looking slightly down as not to whiff over the survivor crouching of 360ing and it will get dragged to a nearby obstacle. I really think this feature needs to be removed. Why was it put in the first place?Originally it was introduced because devs couldnt get the hitbox detection of the actual weapons working properly.
I dont like this "feature" at all, but removing it would require so much rework. First of all we would need dedicated servers, and thats already sth thats not gonna happen sadly, then 360s would have to be removed etc
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So are you talking about a charity event on twitch or sth brom the BHVR side?
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Its been suggested already and I liked the idea.
The suggestion was remove the brainless hammering while struggling into a continous series of skillchecks that you have to hit (similarly to snaping out)) -
@Okuu46 said:
I mean why is it such a big deal?If a killer main goes into a match, up against a 4 man SWF with purple flashlights and toolboxes with gears; and they know he/she is gonna be gen rushed up the arse throughout the majority of the match; and mocked at the exit gates by the survivors towards the end; why should the killer stay around and feel weak, humiliated powerless and powerless by it?
Or when you start a match as a survivor and you get down three times instantly when a match is only 2 mins in? Why should you stick around sometimes?I dont know, i say If you DC; by all means go ahead, your still getting bloodpoints and stuff out of it; just not the person quitting; i just don't see the big issue with it honestly on both sides?
I hate it when survivors DC to deny me bloodpoints, also I hate when my fellow random mates simply ragequit and leave the team behind.....
When the killer DCs I am usually fine because I keep my items and even get 5k BP for nothing. It only sucks when I used a good offering and the killer DCs instantly to derank....Nevertheless, DCing should be punished in any competitive game (even if you can hardly call DBD competitive)
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@SmokePotion said:
I assume this effects xbox players too... but I can't say for sure.Wiggling the left stick left and right is a bad concept for gameplay for a few reasons.
1: This fast repetative action has a chance to strike the middle button, inverting your controls
2: The action, causes extra wear and tear on the controller.
3: If i play a bunch of survivor games, this action causes my hand to hurt.I also have the game on computer, and was surprised to find out that your wiggle by hitting two buttons. And I was confused as to why we didnt get the same system.
I have tried playing with controller too and I consider wiggling easier on controller than on keyboard
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Because he wants to keep the god pallet ofc. No need to write anymore, everyone understands that survivors prefer god loops instead of the nerfed versions as in the suggestion
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Survivors can farm them easier, even if you neglect queue time
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@ToppingPanic said:
Squad family, any chance you could take a gander at this absolute nonsense? Getting away from the killer up on the shoulder is a bad time, with some minimal win odds. There's a hook every ten feet and the wiggle time is a most un-fresh hour to get away. Please fix, much love.Play killer and you will understand
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@Radiant said:
"nerf SWf pls"lmao
lmao
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@Nick said:
Tunneling isnt even a thing. Its an unwritten survivor rule. Just kill the obsession as quickly as possible. Just """"""tunnel""""""""Tunneling is of course a thing. Some might call it palying optimally, others call it toxic, then others call it using common sense.
All that doesnt matter because you are not bound to some weird survivor codex

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Because something doesnt happen all the time does that make it balanced?
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@aure said:
Is because the amount of bp survivors earn compared to a killer with bbq is ridiculously lowa good game with survivor will earn you and average 20k bp if you escaped, a good game with killer even with 1 or 2 kill and bbq will earn you an average of 50k bp
now take in consideration the amount of time you will get tunneled first as a survivor and end up with 8k bp and the super heavy grind you need to overcome to level up your characters and you'll understand why people only want to play killer to farm fast bp
Devs should make survivors gameplay more rewarding in term of bp and look at the useless "survival" category in wich you virtually never get anything when you don't escape, seriously, in 2500 hours, i think i never ever gor 8k bp in survival without farming with a killer
I agree IF survivors lose their items after every game too

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@Soul_Consumption said:
@Master said:
@KillJiggy said:
I had about 1/3 of my matches yesterday end in a 3k where the last guy got the hatch, wasn't too happy about it.
In each match I found the hatch first and just left it because I don't have time to be fighting for it, but still.Try slugging the 2nd survivor while searching the last one.
Sure they can always DC, but atm this is the most reliable method if you want to 4k
This
most reliable
Unless you have whispers, then slug and hunteven with whispers, its the better strategy if you want that 4k
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@PatchNoir said:
@Master said:
As long as survivor fall for the bait, camping will be a thing.Once survivors start using their brain and do gens instead of suiciding, nobody will camp anymore.
Right now, survivors are so used to non-adapting that we are already ages in that "camp meta".
Ofc it is tunneling if you tunnel the obession with dying light. Tunneling is a word that describeds a certain strategy and with dying light, you obviously you want to tunnel the obession. I mean thats your whole gameplan?

if you re in solo survivor the camped guy kill himself and everyone dies too, isnt that simple
Why would the camped guy himself? Guess he wants to screw you over...?
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As long as survivor fall for the bait, camping will be a thing.
Once survivors start using their brain and do gens instead of suiciding, nobody will camp anymore.
Right now, survivors are so used to non-adapting that we are already ages in that "camp meta".
Ofc it is tunneling if you tunnel the obession with dying light. Tunneling is a word that describeds a certain strategy and with dying light, you obviously you want to tunnel the obession. I mean thats your whole gameplan?

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Are you using NOED or how do you manage to collect salt with such a high rate?
Teach me senpai

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I only have slightly lower fps with doc (probably due to the shock animations)
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@ModernFable said:
Well, despite all of the issues that have been plaguing this event. I hope that BVHR will able to salvage some sort of data regarding secondary objectives.The game definitely slowed down and I like secondary objectives. Although I would want them to actually have a tangible effect, rather than just blood points.
I just don’t want the whole idea scrapped because of how this one event went down.
I hope they dont salvage any data from this event, at least even BHVR should have seen that the event has just caused a gigantic farm/suicide session.
Maybe they understand now that secondary objectives need to be tied into the main objecitve, but then I look at hex totems and well......
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@KillJiggy said:
I had about 1/3 of my matches yesterday end in a 3k where the last guy got the hatch, wasn't too happy about it.
In each match I found the hatch first and just left it because I don't have time to be fighting for it, but still.Try slugging the 2nd survivor while searching the last one.
Sure they can always DC, but atm this is the most reliable method if you want to 4k
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@Giche said:
@SenzuDuck said:
I’m a stalker too!!! Hey master, want me to get the comment where you said you rage quit every match you don’t get someone after 2 gens are done?
Still this bad habit of ganging up on people huh ?
Should we keep track of Master's number of "LOL" to see if you're all at it again ?
Just ignore guys who only get personal instead of having a proper argument.
They will push you down to their low level and beat you there because of there bigger experience of trashtalking.I always feel vindicated when someone is insulting me if they run out of arguments

Says the guy that goes into my twitch clips to try and say I don't play killer, please tell me who is personal.
I didnt insult you in any way.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
I only searched for clips as I said.
Ofc I dont go through thousands of hours
What happened in the games I linked though. You were playing one of the strongest killers and yet lost considerably, just a bad game from you I guess?

Yes, people have bad games, it's not an issue. I really don't understand your point here?
Also the clip is from nine months ago it means literally nothing, I had a bad game NINE months ago.Regarding your timesteps.
First timestep - survivor waiting at the first pallet.... clearly not competent, next one
"hey this match doesn't matter because I don't think this player is competent"
I don't think killers that get looped for 5 gens at bloodlust three are competent but here you are, telling us how bad the game is.Second timestep - survivor is afk? Not sure how that hit in the shack was possible, maybe he just picked up the phone lul?
Why are you grading my matches? You're here to refute I play killer, acting as if I shouldn't have a say because I don't play killer, lol.
I see where this is leading.
I am not claiming that you cant beat any SWF, I am claiming that its the competent SWF that break the game.
What you're claiming is that players that are better than you shouldn't beat you because you're the big bad killer and you should pwn everyone.
Now that im typing this I am curious what rank these survivors were at because they were that horrible that I cant believe that they are rank 1 (even in the busted rank system).
.....OK skipped to the end of the freddy game (you believe that freddy needs no buffs lol?)
What do I see?rank 2
rank 6
rank 6
rank 15Uhm ok.... gg easy I guess, time to nerf freddy

Which, by what you guys say they're clearly an SWF and therefore should have been unbeatable, right? a rank 2,6,6 & 15? Clearly an overpowered team of four SWF communicating communists with unlimited power get 3Kd by a freddy?????!!??!?!?!?!!?!?! WHAT?!??!?!?! that... that should be impossible, no SWF is beatable, especially against freddy?
competent SWF I said, COMPETENT
But never mind, I think we can stop now

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@Blueberry said:
@Jack11803 said:
SWF > Killers > Solo SurvivorsI'd still say if you had 4 competent solo players they are still quite a bit above killers.
Impossible with the current rank system, so this is one of the few times I agree with @Jack11803
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@Giche said:
@SenzuDuck said:
I’m a stalker too!!! Hey master, want me to get the comment where you said you rage quit every match you don’t get someone after 2 gens are done?
Still this bad habit of ganging up on people huh ?
Should we keep track of Master's number of "LOL" to see if you're all at it again ?
Just ignore guys who only get personal instead of having a proper argument.
They will push you down to their low level and beat you there because of there bigger experience of trashtalking.I always feel vindicated when someone is insulting me if they run out of arguments

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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
Just remembered that you are a streamer and checked your channel.
Opened your clips and were only able to find 2 killer clips from this year. Seems like you mostly play survivor, but maybe your viewers dont clip killer moments, I dont know.I found a few killer clips though:
https://clips.twitch.tv/DoubtfulDeadNewtYee
https://clips.twitch.tv/AgreeableQuaintBeanDxCat
https://clips.twitch.tv/ElegantPatientDumplingsOhMyDog
Then a clip where you 4k with nurse, nice, but seems like you struggle a lot, even with billyMaybe you are just not a good killer if you dont manage to 4k all the time, I dont know

I've never claimed I'm good, I also don't need to 4K every match to have fun - I've always said winning isn't about 4King
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/320518169?t=05m58s
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/319718948?t=12m33s
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/319718948?t=26m02s
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/319718948?t=42m52sBut there you go, my internet has been down so not been playing DBD but I guess it only took me seconds to find those - you clearly didn't look hard enough.
Again - I don't think 4King means anything + I've never said I was good....
also like to add all your clips are from months and months ago, one of them was like the week freddy came out - hilarious.
I only searched for clips as I said.
Ofc I dont go through thousands of hours
What happened in the games I linked though. You were playing one of the strongest killers and yet lost considerably, just a bad game from you I guess?

Regarding your timesteps.
First timestep - survivor waiting at the first pallet.... clearly not competent, next one
Second timestep - survivor is afk? Not sure how that hit in the shack was possible, maybe he just picked up the phone lul?I see where this is leading.
I am not claiming that you cant beat any SWF, I am claiming that its the competent SWF that break the game.
Now that im typing this I am curious what rank these survivors were at because they were that horrible that I cant believe that they are rank 1 (even in the busted rank system).
.....OK skipped to the end of the freddy game (you believe that freddy needs no buffs lol?)
What do I see?rank 2
rank 6
rank 6
rank 15Uhm ok.... gg easy I guess, time to nerf freddy

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@only1biggs said:
@Master said:
@only1biggs said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
Just throws bad light on the devs as usual.
But I dont care anymore, if they will never balance voice comms, thats fine and I will live with it, you can always derank or lobbydodge and avoid most of itThey've honestly done nothing but buff killers recently I have no idea what killer mains have to complain about, you make it like you've never beaten an SWF squad before.
Just keep in mind that Master came here to ask for help, as he was being looped for 5 gens WHILE STACKING BLOODLUST 3. Think about how bad you have to be to not catch someone with the old bloodlust speeds.
Yes that was at the time where jungle gyms spawned everywhere and you needed to break almsot every pallet.
Luckily these times are over now

If you couldn't catch someone with BL3, that's on you, as was established in your thread

Yeah we established in this thread that it was my fault for trying to chase the optimal survivor and I was told that I should go for a weaker one.
I remember that one very well
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@SenzuDuck said:
@ZombieGenesis said:
Good Killers beat Bad Players. Good SWF beat Good Killers every time. If you dispute that as a fact there's really no reasoning with you.It absolutely isn't a fact at all, lmfao.
And using this example, not every SWF is good, so they're perfectly beatable, but again - lets pretend they're all OP and unmatchable.Also love the good old "if you don't agree with me theres no point discussing it" - what a cop out.
Just remembered that you are a streamer and checked your channel.
Opened your clips and were only able to find 2 killer clips from this year. Seems like you mostly play survivor, but maybe your viewers dont clip killer moments, I dont know.I found a few killer clips though:
https://clips.twitch.tv/DoubtfulDeadNewtYee
https://clips.twitch.tv/AgreeableQuaintBeanDxCat
https://clips.twitch.tv/ElegantPatientDumplingsOhMyDog
Then a clip where you 4k with nurse, nice, but seems like you struggle a lot, even with billyMaybe you are just not a good killer if you dont manage to 4k all the time, I dont know

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@only1biggs said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
Just throws bad light on the devs as usual.
But I dont care anymore, if they will never balance voice comms, thats fine and I will live with it, you can always derank or lobbydodge and avoid most of itThey've honestly done nothing but buff killers recently I have no idea what killer mains have to complain about, you make it like you've never beaten an SWF squad before.
Just keep in mind that Master came here to ask for help, as he was being looped for 5 gens WHILE STACKING BLOODLUST 3. Think about how bad you have to be to not catch someone with the old bloodlust speeds.
Yes that was at the time where jungle gyms spawned everywhere and you needed to break almsot every pallet.
Luckily these times are over now

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I never had such queue time problems until survivors starting to farm killer vials.
I will be highly surprised if the situation stays the same after the event.Killers complain because (unless you play nurse) you always go into a match, knowing you might not even have the chance to win if the survivors are just good enough.
This together with the toxicity...... wellI suggest one thing. Check out jendenise channel a bit and look what she does to killers with her SWF. Now imagine playing the other side.
She is a pretty good survivor, but she actually doesnt try to just play optimal like the depip squad, check a few games of them and you might understand even better.Trapper needs a complete rework if you ask me, SWF does so much damage to him....
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@friendlykillermain said:
FIX THE HATCH its not fair if i find it first and have no way to disable it. not salty just frustrated at the broken mechanic.Devs tried it but the their idea was not "satisfying" enough, so it got dropped just like the SC/DS rework.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@Peasant said:
SenzuDuck said:@AgentTalon said:
How many of us would opt into a "no SWF" playlist? I'm seriously asking because I would actually prefer to play against a smaller group of even a few hundred in total than see another SWF group who uses voice chat.
Obviously, because why play the "harder" mode, lol.
Still, pretending SWF teams are impossible to beat seems to be the consensus and it simply isn't true.
Most SWF groups aren't as bad as most generally assume. I've had several games where if I hadn't checked profiles a SWF duo would've gone unnoticed by me. It's just the handful of nightmares like the De-pip squad and the few others that use comms like a SWAT team that warrant concern.
Sure, a lot of SWF are compltely potatoes because they boosted each other to a rank where they dont belong.
But even if I 4k a toxic SWF, I simply dont have fun in those games and will do my best to avoid them now.
And against the "SWAT" SWF, well sometimes I go afk and start a deranking series if sth like this happens^^
The game isnt built around optimal play which is quite sad if you ask meThe game isn't built around bad killers that need their hand held at every opportunity to be honest. You'll rarely get a "SWAT" swf team and even if you do you're getting angry at an intended mechanic because you're having a hard time dealing with it.
Because something happens "rarely", it is balanced?
because you shouldn't be balancing a game around something that happens in probably less than 5% of matches, just like they shouldn't balance things around facecamping/camping because it happens in less than 15% of matches.
And yet they adress facecamping/camping: Why do they do that? Because it is annoying AF to play against and will ruin your day even if it only happens once every day. Same applies to those SWF. Am I supposed to DC in those games where the game isnt balanced? Just a question

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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@Peasant said:
SenzuDuck said:@AgentTalon said:
How many of us would opt into a "no SWF" playlist? I'm seriously asking because I would actually prefer to play against a smaller group of even a few hundred in total than see another SWF group who uses voice chat.
Obviously, because why play the "harder" mode, lol.
Still, pretending SWF teams are impossible to beat seems to be the consensus and it simply isn't true.
Most SWF groups aren't as bad as most generally assume. I've had several games where if I hadn't checked profiles a SWF duo would've gone unnoticed by me. It's just the handful of nightmares like the De-pip squad and the few others that use comms like a SWAT team that warrant concern.
Sure, a lot of SWF are compltely potatoes because they boosted each other to a rank where they dont belong.
But even if I 4k a toxic SWF, I simply dont have fun in those games and will do my best to avoid them now.
And against the "SWAT" SWF, well sometimes I go afk and start a deranking series if sth like this happens^^
The game isnt built around optimal play which is quite sad if you ask meThe game isn't built around bad killers that need their hand held at every opportunity to be honest. You'll rarely get a "SWAT" swf team and even if you do you're getting angry at an intended mechanic because you're having a hard time dealing with it.
Because something happens "rarely", it is balanced?
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@SenzuDuck said:
@SadonicShadow said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
Just throws bad light on the devs as usual.
But I dont care anymore, if they will never balance voice comms, thats fine and I will live with it, you can always derank or lobbydodge and avoid most of itThey've honestly done nothing but buff killers recently I have no idea what killer mains have to complain about, you make it like you've never beaten an SWF squad before.
Yes they have fixed a lot of the broken loops, but they have not touched the SWF balance at all.
Of course I have beaten several of those you can beat, but since I dont play billy/nurse, I have faced several ones where I didnt stand a chance
As I said, I accepted that the devs will never change that and are acting accordingly now.
Its one of those problems you gotta live with if you wanna play DBD, just like the peer to peer which is a huge joke aswell
What exactly do you want them to do to "balance" around SWF? They've only made killers stronger, what else do you want, shotguns for your killers?
If they were smart they would give all the survivors an optional in game voice and text based chat so that there was no disparity between solo and SWF then buff the killers around that advantage. Instead we get cookie cutter changes that dont address why SWF is so overpowered. The devs seem to be adverse to taking the simplest and most efficient path in solving this issue.
SWF isn't overpowered though, you can quite easily beat SWF teams without blinking an eye I don't get why it's "overpowered" I have never dodged a lobby because of items, offerings, swf and I reach rank one every season it absolutely bewildered me how people say it's "overpowered".
Its not a secret that things like the depip squad exist.
Sure, there are a lot of palyers at rank 1 that shouldnt be there because of the laughable ranking system, but that doesnt change anything.Does the depip squad still accept challenges? Maybe you wanna verse them and you will understand what were talking about
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@Peasant said:
SenzuDuck said:@AgentTalon said:
How many of us would opt into a "no SWF" playlist? I'm seriously asking because I would actually prefer to play against a smaller group of even a few hundred in total than see another SWF group who uses voice chat.
Obviously, because why play the "harder" mode, lol.
Still, pretending SWF teams are impossible to beat seems to be the consensus and it simply isn't true.
Most SWF groups aren't as bad as most generally assume. I've had several games where if I hadn't checked profiles a SWF duo would've gone unnoticed by me. It's just the handful of nightmares like the De-pip squad and the few others that use comms like a SWAT team that warrant concern.
Sure, a lot of SWF are compltely potatoes because they boosted each other to a rank where they dont belong.
But even if I 4k a toxic SWF, I simply dont have fun in those games and will do my best to avoid them now.
And against the "SWAT" SWF, well sometimes I go afk and start a deranking series if sth like this happens^^
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@Tsulan said:
I'm still waiting for the patch that punishes survivors for staying close to a almost repaired gen.Please don't camp and tunnel gens.
Please don't camp and tunnel your fellow teammates.It kills the fun.
Btw. Have you tried deceit? There the monster can insta kill you and the match took less time than the loading screen.
Now THAT'S frustrating. Not the 40 second chances you get in DbD.Seems interesting, the ingame pics actually make you feel like you play an horror game.
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@The_Crusader said:
That's obvious now after playing it for a while.What however can the devs do to remedy this situation? Camping isn't fun for whoever gets caught first and causes people to de-pip purely for the mistake of being first hooked.
I feel like I'm just gonna have to start disconnecting everytime I'm against the Pig at this rate.
The devs will never understand hwo their changes will actually affect the game because they dont play the game on their own.
Just DC everytime, and the devs will allow you to take a break from the game, apparently you need one

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@grtf47 said:
until daybreak can fix pallet bugs and fix their servers, I won’t be playing dbd. I also feel that killers like doctor and others with un-real powers is childish and it’s pretty annoying to play against them.Bye.
Hope you find a nice game to play until we see you in a few weeks with the new chapter

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@AgentTalon said:
I recently picked up the Shape and have been working through the perks and builds to see what I like most. I've found Dying Light is my favorite obsession perk and it got me thinking. If I tunnel the obsession for a kill as quickly as possible does it really could as "tunneling" in the sense that the forum would consider toxic?It's literally in my best interest to kill that person ASAP, assuming it doesn't cost 3 or 4 gens of course. So what are the thoughts on that?
Just forget about the survivor codex.
Ofc they dont like it if you are trying to kill them, but thats your job.
Doesnt matter how they call it, tunneling, camping, proxy camping, toxic babykiller or with whatever they come up. If you managed to kill them, you did a great job. -
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
Just throws bad light on the devs as usual.
But I dont care anymore, if they will never balance voice comms, thats fine and I will live with it, you can always derank or lobbydodge and avoid most of itThey've honestly done nothing but buff killers recently I have no idea what killer mains have to complain about, you make it like you've never beaten an SWF squad before.
Yes they have fixed a lot of the broken loops, but they have not touched the SWF balance at all.
Of course I have beaten several of those you can beat, but since I dont play billy/nurse, I have faced several ones where I didnt stand a chance
As I said, I accepted that the devs will never change that and are acting accordingly now.
Its one of those problems you gotta live with if you wanna play DBD, just like the peer to peer which is a huge joke aswell
What exactly do you want them to do to "balance" around SWF? They've only made killers stronger, what else do you want, shotguns for your killers?
Ive said this multiple times.
I want ingame voice comms for survivors such that SWF doesnt have the coordination advantage anymore. Then buff all killers accordingly and rework perks that are useless because SWF has them built in or completely denies them (for example empathy, knockout etc).
Thats the only proper solution to this problem. But ofc you could nerf SWF for example by denying perks, debuffs or sth but that would be insnely difficult to balance properly.
never gonna happen ofc, survivors would literally protest in front of the BHVR central

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@XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
i think survivors are op.who else does and why.Survivors are op, unless I try to play solo survivors with some random plebs, then killers are op.
The real balance difference is SWF
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Devs cant even handle 1 game mode and you are asking for more.
You do realize that it will only make everything worse?
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
Just throws bad light on the devs as usual.
But I dont care anymore, if they will never balance voice comms, thats fine and I will live with it, you can always derank or lobbydodge and avoid most of itThey've honestly done nothing but buff killers recently I have no idea what killer mains have to complain about, you make it like you've never beaten an SWF squad before.
Yes they have fixed a lot of the broken loops, but they have not touched the SWF balance at all.
Of course I have beaten several of those you can beat, but since I dont play billy/nurse, I have faced several ones where I didnt stand a chance
As I said, I accepted that the devs will never change that and are acting accordingly now.
Its one of those problems you gotta live with if you wanna play DBD, just like the peer to peer which is a huge joke aswell
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Might wanna contact support and ask whether they can help you
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@Tizzle said:
Do the devs not realise there is going to be the same damn issue within a day or two?Noone will play Survivor once they have 60 vials because they CANNOT DO THE CANKERS FOR EXTRA BLOODPOINTS, meanwhile Killer keeps getting points for hooks.
I sware, I mean #########.
You were only supposed to get 15 on both sides and the devs lifted it up already.
Btw, I got 30 on both sides easily. Must be a hacker

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Just throws bad light on the devs as usual.
But I dont care anymore, if they will never balance voice comms, thats fine and I will live with it, you can always derank or lobbydodge and avoid most of it -
@Akuma said:
Decisive Strike Buff when? Back to the roots devs, instand skill check for every one, 5 seconds. That's balance!Decisive strike was buffed with spirit release, you must have missed it.
Btw, only the low tier versions of NOED got buffed which is completely irreleveant for most players while DS got a buff on all tiers
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@PatchNoir said:
is it a toxicity ? most of the comments are useless and toxic like "huntress your dirty bunny sit on my face please", and bugs and important balance discussion arent even opened.Dont get mad by this tread
Everything has been discussed to death already, so further discussions are kinda pointless as the devs dont read/care anyway.^^
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@Chi said:
@Tsulan said:
JackieEstacadoWhen said:
Master said:@Sheldor said:
@Master said:
I thought geting killer vials is so easy, wasnt that what all survivors complained about?
Btw, the original plan was to have only 15 vials on each side, so consider your suggestion to be carried out already since you can gain 30 only on survivor now
Getting killer vials so easy ? Are you joking ? You get max 2 games per hour. Now most survivors don't even bother taking event offerings so you are stuck with the 3 hooks you get by default and your own offering which makes it 2 games per vial necessary....and then you even get tryhard teams who even try to bodyblock you out of your well deserved event hook....give me a break
I am not joking.
Right at the start of the event, countless of threads poped up claiming that its a killersided event, farming vials as killer would be so easy and that it is so unfair for the survivors

Those complaints were more towards the fact that killers could farm vials through normal gameplay while survivor's had to go a bit out of their way to farm since unlike other events their currency this time isn't tied to gens.
Most of the complaints were happening during the first 40 hours though and then most survivors figured out how to effectively farm the vials and were quickly done before going over to killer.
Killers having to equip 2 perks (Iron Grip + Agitation) to reach hooks at the other end of the map isn't exactly normal gameplay.
Survivors didn't had to equip anything and could do the flowers together.
Milking the pestulas is not exactly normal gameplay either. As a survivor, I died most of the games because I was milking the pestulas instead of doing the gens. (Which would have been fine, if everyone wasn't milking them.)
Survivors have plenty of time to milk and do gens.
The real problem during the event were farming survivors that only milked and suicided afterwards. For some reason BHVR didnt see this coming or they believed that players wouldnt go for the optimal strategy -
@Wolf74 said:
Did you read my previous post ? I say that the game is killer sided.
When the killer is good, even good swf will loose with the current state.
I'm a 15 hours gameplay killer and i can manage to get 1/2k most of the time and sometimes 3/4k against a really good SWF (one of the best i know actually)...
lol
15 hrs and he things he knows the game.^^
You will NEVER get 3-4K vs a "really good SWF". I know it is hard to hear, but what you think is a "really good SWF" ist actually just trash, because they got killed by a 15hrs killer.
Wait until you meet "real good" player and we talk again.Well as a noob I thought that killers would be OP as ######### too and I started when infinites where still a thing

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Did you read my previous post ? I say that the game is killer sided.
When the killer is good, even good swf will loose with the current state.
I'm a 15 hours gameplay killer and i can manage to get 1/2k most of the time and sometimes 3/4k against a really good SWF (one of the best i know actually)...
Well, you sound dumb, most of the main killers on twitch have no problem to win games. And yes survivors needs a buff atm. Previous state was ok, balanced with 2k in most of the games for rank 1 killers.
But hey, 15 minutes for killers to find a game, and next patch, the devs are going to nerf survivors again so great, every survivors will quit this game, you will have fun waiting 30 minutes for a game.
And those developpers trying to save the obvious calling this long queue time a bug. 1 year there is a bug in your game that you can't fix ? lol, so funny.
Clearly you dont know what a good SWF means.
But I will forgive you because you are still a beginner player.
Go ahead and insult me with your 15 hour gameplay knowledge. I am not offended by this because when I was a noob, I believed that killers were OP too.Show me any twitch streamer that easily 4ks a competent SWF NOT playing nurse, then you persuaded me.
And no, queues are naturally longer during a event where the devs force teh 1:4 community to switch sides, thats easy math