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Everything was fine before the event, even in the first days during the event I got instant queues.
Now that survivors are done with the quest on their side, killer queues are insane.Coincidence?
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@Damarus said:
@Rex_Huin said:
i'm supposing you already filled your killer vial count, otherwise you are soon going to came back crying...
Killer lobbies on PS4 are fine at the moment. Can usually get a game going in a minute or so. As mentioned my problem is time to play.
Don't know what your rank is, but I have to wait more than 10 minutes to get just a single person in my lobby (I am rank 1).
Should have deranked before the event....
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@MongByeolBuddies said:
This Halloween event has shown that adding a secondary objective in addition to the generators is a great idea. However, milking these plants doesn't help survivors in the game and has caused killers to have an easy time of it.So what if instead of these plants, there were 4 shrines to the entity where you can worship -- one for each survivor. By worshipping at these shrines, you remove a penalty that you receive to start the match and receive a random gift and bloodpoints -- maybe a 25 percent bonus for the match.
One idea for the penalty could be 1 of your perks selected randomly each match cannot be used until you worship at a shrine.
Some ideas for the gifts could be the next time you're hooked there's no sacrifice progression for 30 seconds, the next time you're in a chase leave no scratch marks for 1 minute, all of the killer's perks are deactivated for 45 seconds, the next time you're in the killer's terror radius his aura is revealed for 10 seconds.
This objective wouldn't be mandatory so you could choose to ignore it, but you would be handicapped for the match and miss out on bloodpoints and a cool gift from the entity.
What do you guys think?
Generally I like the idea.
But you do realize that its a big joke suggesting the bad effect for survivors to disable a single perk, but the bad effect for the killre would be to completely deny his loadout?
Also it wouldnt solve the issue of genrush games which are still the most optimal way to play. The secondary objective needs to be tied into the main objective if you ask me
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@Blaque_magik87 said:
This event is trash. All the killer has to do is hook me.. i have to juice a plant for 25 seconds... this game is not assymetrical, its purely one sided... the devs dont care if the majority of this games base are survivors... its geared towards making the game easier for killers. Come at me bro.Are you trying to get your killer vials now?
Still easier as killer?
edit damn too slow^^
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@AshleyWB said:
They should have a garunteed match make system which lets you connect with all players online regardless of level and region after 5 mins of searching. Best connection players are prioritised before you complain being put in a match from someone on ugandan McDonald's wifiIt doesnt matter if you search worldwide.
If the WHOLE dbd population is playing the other side, that naturally leads to higher queue times in an asymetrical game.We can only get ping filters if we get dedicated servers, and that will sadly never happen I guess
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@deadwolfwalking said:
@Master - i've lost more kills by ppl saving DS and hitting me with it at the gate more than anything else. I don't consider my suggestion to be a 'buff' in any way. I know that if they went on a hook once, their ass is going on a hook again. Nothings gonna decisively strike me except more bloodpoints. But i'm tired of DS being saved to the last minute or being hit with it after i spent 6 seconds carrying them to a ******* hook. Call it a buff if you choose but i'll sleep better.Ofc there are stupid survivors, nobody denies that.
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@Slaymore said:
@Master said:
@Slaymore said:
If you would honor steam bans/blocks then we could simply block those that are toxic and Voila!, problem solved. No more games with that person. Survivors that don't like facecamping killers, solved. Killers that don't like toxic survivors teabagging and endless looping, solved. If you can't manage to honor steam bans/blocks, then implement your own.Yeah yeah block every good nurse such that you can have ez games.
We know where this is going to lead, thats why its not a thing
Says a salty killer. I don't mind being killed if the killer is good and plays by some level of sportsmanship - doesn't camp for example. If they go out of their way to be toxic then yes, I want to ban them. I've had threats from killers who I block on steam - this game should honor those blocks, plain and simple. Even with the poor killers if I die, I just move on to the next game. My post was about removing toxicity - if you think you're going to be banned by every survivor then maybe you should examine how you play.
"says a salty killer"
With that sentence you disqualified yourself to have a proper argument.
I know what guys like you mean when they talk about "sportsmanship"Have fun in your own bubble, I will leave you alone now
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@Zarathos said:
@Master said:
@Wolf74 said:
@Master said:
@Wolf74 said:
@Master said:
@Wolf74 said:
@powerbats said:
So now there's this huge population imbalance of too many killers.Can we please stop spreading that urban myth?
There are technical issues that need to get fixed.IF this would just be the unbalance in player playing one side, it would fix itself, because all the killer mains switched to play survivor, because we do not get any lobbies!
You cant play a normal game anymore, the only players that are playing currently are those farming for the event.
And ofc, switching the sides in a 1:4 game leads to higher queue times (16 times longer), that should not be hard to understand.Its funny though how every "main" played their prefered role first, maxed it out and now wants to play the other side.
Can you read?? Like serious. I am a killer main and I have not maxed out my killer vials, because I CAN'T FIND LOBBIES!
Should have done your vials while survivors were farming theirs. bad luck if you had no time in the beginning of the event^^
This is from the start of the event you ...
Ah yeah somehow I managed to complete mine really fast.... must have been a queue hack I guess
Early bird catches the worm. Unfortunately I chose to do my survivor vials first to help my struggling friends. Now i regularly have queue times of 20 mins for killer. : (
Didnt you just claim that this was an issue "from teh start of the event"?
Well....
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Fact is that they have´nt even presented an idea how to fix rank system, SWF balance or dedicated severs.
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@MisterCremaster said:
Neither of the "this is business" excuses make sense. Maybe the did a cost benefit analysis of whether dedicated servers would increase profits, and the answer was "no", but to just say "they're making money, why bother" is a ridiculously over simplified idea of how businesses operate. Dedicated servers could very well increase profits by bringing more people into the player base and increases profits. Dedicated servers cost money, so if you AREN'T giving money to them, there is no chance they'll happen.We haven't seen their code, but there is no reason to believe that changing to dedicated servers should be an impossible task. You already have 4 of the 5 participants connecting to a remote host, you switch and have the killer do the same thing and you got dedicated hosting.
Dedicated servers are not that expensive nowadays anymore.
The expensive part is paying the programmers for doing their job of redoing their spaghetti code. Sure, its not impossible but it will not be easy to change something as fundamental as netcode.The player base keeps growing, money still comes in, but the devs still ignore the biggest issues of the game and prefer focusing on lore etc
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@Jack11803 said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@Jack11803 said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@Jack11803 said:
@MhhBurgers said:
Survivor perks are supposed to be weaker than killerperksIf you’re gonna count all survivors as a collective, know that WGLF gives points to 1/4, while BBQ is points to 1/1. Yeah, you’re stupid 1/4 doesn’t work here...
Giving WGLF ANY effect in addition to BP bonusgain would be OP. Want those bonusBP? Sacrifice a perkslot for it. I'm all for giving WGLF through stuff like saboing a hook while a killer with a survivor on his shoulder is near n stuff like that but WGLF doesn't need a BBQ like secondary effect.
Oh, I want token buffs too. Hello my friend
I think the 100% BP increase is already fair enough, BBQ also just gives 100% so why would WGLF give you more esp if we'd make the conditions easier to meet.
I meant keep it 100%, make it easier to get 4 tokens. And even though it SHOULD be easier IN THEORY, it’s much harder to get consistently 4 stacks of WGLF. Meanwhile I get 4 bbq every game
Not in a genrush game though
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@Radiant said:
Ahahahahahahahhahaah"Pls remove legs from survivors, they move too much"
you forgot the xD and you didnt use "babykiller"
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@deadwolfwalking said:
I'm a killer main but i'm not totally against DS. I just wish it wasn't an 'obsession' perk. Nor do i think it should be 'saveable'. It should be a one time use during your first 'pickup'. One and done. No more dribbling. No more 1/3 wiggle bullshit.So you just want a straight up buffed DS?
I agree with you fellow killer main
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No, you just got lobby dodged.^^
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@Peasant said:
If you dropped five bloodpoints between a Meg and a Nea they would fight to the death over it.True dat
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@douggie123 said:
I here a lot of complaints about the game and I really don't understand why. Imo the gameplay is fine better than a lot of games I have played, also the event is fine no issues with it apart from very minor things which aren't too bad. There are a lot of people picking on killers add ons and perks and it's not fair especially considrconsit mostly comes from survivor mains. As for the spirit when she first came out people said she was going to be bad but now I have heard people complain about her and not just on the forums. Give the devs a break.Dedicated servers, ranking system, SWF balance
Pick one
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Watch a movie series in the background, you will be surprised how fast survivors join and maybe it will be even so fast that you actually miss the game^^
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@Wolf74 said:
@Master said:
@Wolf74 said:
@Master said:
@Wolf74 said:
@powerbats said:
So now there's this huge population imbalance of too many killers.Can we please stop spreading that urban myth?
There are technical issues that need to get fixed.IF this would just be the unbalance in player playing one side, it would fix itself, because all the killer mains switched to play survivor, because we do not get any lobbies!
You cant play a normal game anymore, the only players that are playing currently are those farming for the event.
And ofc, switching the sides in a 1:4 game leads to higher queue times (16 times longer), that should not be hard to understand.Its funny though how every "main" played their prefered role first, maxed it out and now wants to play the other side.
Can you read?? Like serious. I am a killer main and I have not maxed out my killer vials, because I CAN'T FIND LOBBIES!
Should have done your vials while survivors were farming theirs. bad luck if you had no time in the beginning of the event^^
This is from the start of the event you ...
Ah yeah somehow I managed to complete mine really fast.... must have been a queue hack I guess
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@ConclaveHighOverlord said:
@Master said:
@Slaymore said:
If you would honor steam bans/blocks then we could simply block those that are toxic and Voila!, problem solved. No more games with that person. Survivors that don't like facecamping killers, solved. Killers that don't like toxic survivors teabagging and endless looping, solved. If you can't manage to honor steam bans/blocks, then implement your own.Yeah yeah block every good nurse such that you can have ez games.
We know where this is going to lead, thats why its not a thing
hardly any nurses around like there once was... everyone takes it as a negative idea... its not to block good players its to block the toxic crap some killers or survivors feel theneed to bring into the game.
But thats how its gonna be used.
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Flashlight blinds need to be nerfed
look at this, its ridiculous
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@Slaymore said:
If you would honor steam bans/blocks then we could simply block those that are toxic and Voila!, problem solved. No more games with that person. Survivors that don't like facecamping killers, solved. Killers that don't like toxic survivors teabagging and endless looping, solved. If you can't manage to honor steam bans/blocks, then implement your own.Yeah yeah block every good nurse such that you can have ez games.
We know where this is going to lead, thats why its not a thing
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@Slaymore said:
BBQ is really 2 perks (aura and points). W'e're Going To Live Forever only awards points for survivor so why not split that BBQ into 2 perks? Or, remove the aura for those already hooked once.Also, when only survivors are left, it's a bit OP - possibly remove the aura at that point if the above isn't done.
Most killers SAY they only run it for the points so splitting it, or removing the aura for those hooked once should be acceptable to all.
Do you want to be camped?
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@HP150 said:
You are fuelled by unexpected energy when on the verge of escape. Instantly heal from Injured State/Injured State/Injured or Dying State and sprint at 150 % of your normal running speed for 3/5/5 seconds when an Exit Gate opens
I wasn't aware that being in the dream world or not was considered an "injured state". Does it also bring Survivor's madness level to 0 against the Doc? Remove Hemorrhage/Mangled/Exhaustion/Blind/etc/etc? Why specifically Freddy?
Adrenaline is meta now even when not in SWF. Bond is getting there. Self Care is still going strong as ever. The cards just seem to be getting more and more stacked against Sweater Boi. I'm more just genuinely curious about this design choice.
Because freddy is not meant to be viable.
Its one of those killers and the devs simply dont like him
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@Radiant said:
Babykillers cheering for the unbalanced update are getting instant karma with 20+ mins lobby.Maybe u guys can start killing each other.
Ask the devs, they will probably satisfy u as usual.
Dont worry, killer queues will be fast when the event is over again
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As long as you throw money at them, there is no reason to go through the trouble of reworking their spaghetti code in order to enable dedicated servers. Too much time and effort would be needed and thats expensive too
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@Sheldor said:
@Master said:
I thought geting killer vials is so easy, wasnt that what all survivors complained about?Btw, the original plan was to have only 15 vials on each side, so consider your suggestion to be carried out already since you can gain 30 only on survivor now
Getting killer vials so easy ? Are you joking ? You get max 2 games per hour. Now most survivors don't even bother taking event offerings so you are stuck with the 3 hooks you get by default and your own offering which makes it 2 games per vial necessary....and then you even get tryhard teams who even try to bodyblock you out of your well deserved event hook....give me a break
I am not joking.
Right at the start of the event, countless of threads poped up claiming that its a killersided event, farming vials as killer would be so easy and that it is so unfair for the survivors
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@Eight said:
@Master said:
Its a joke that the event lasts 2 weeks, but who am I to complain.Be fair, not all of us can play enough (even over a weekend) to collect 60 vials super quick.
IN the meantime I play other games and enjoy survivors crying on forum how hard it is to get killer vials
Hahaha.
Only the most dedicated players should be able to benefit from the full event potential. Thats how it works in other games too.
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@Wolf74 said:
@Master said:
@Wolf74 said:
@powerbats said:
So now there's this huge population imbalance of too many killers.Can we please stop spreading that urban myth?
There are technical issues that need to get fixed.IF this would just be the unbalance in player playing one side, it would fix itself, because all the killer mains switched to play survivor, because we do not get any lobbies!
You cant play a normal game anymore, the only players that are playing currently are those farming for the event.
And ofc, switching the sides in a 1:4 game leads to higher queue times (16 times longer), that should not be hard to understand.Its funny though how every "main" played their prefered role first, maxed it out and now wants to play the other side.
Can you read?? Like serious. I am a killer main and I have not maxed out my killer vials, because I CAN'T FIND LOBBIES!
Should have done your vials while survivors were farming theirs. bad luck if you had no time in the beginning of the event^^
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@The_Crusader said:
Master said:@DarkFox85 said:
There have been some great SWF groups that are very sportsmanlike, but why, as consumers, should this sort of thing be allowed?
I've reported both and have a full video of the entire match but nothing will come of it. I swear to Christ I didnt even camp - which is good for the Hag. Something needs to be done about SWF. End of. It makes me want to hit back. Have a pop at all survivor mains. Be toxic myself.
It's not helpful...
[EDIT: Forgot to mention. Checked them out - all 4 are friends]
Thanks for the laugh
But tbh, its your fault for going into a game like this. The devs gave you the power to lobbydodge those games until they figure out a solution.
Lobbydodging isn't an option right now when it takes 10+ mins to get a lobby.
I think survivors are aware of this. I've seen 4man SWF more kitted out morr than usual.
Why would any killer play anymore?
You should be done with your vials already as killer main. Either you do survivor vials now or you maxed both already and are playing a different game.^^ -
@c_firavel said:
Killers are too powerful. Even with some of the best perks as a survivor, they can find you as if you're standing out in the open.Finding a survivor is the easy part.
If you dont know that, then you need to git gud
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@Gurpsmeister said:
So at the end of a match I hear it constantly. I get called names because I looped you hard. I get called immersed and an ######### for stealthing and evading. I get called a tryhard gen rusher if I'm working on gens.I'm a little confused here.
I mean if I'm camped I usually take it as a compliment. To ME it means that I was enough of a pain in the butt to earn the company. I have no complaints about the tactic and anyone who claims tunneling is a thing doesn't understand the game.
I'm just super confused that as a survivor it seems no matter WHAT style I do, I'm a jerk for doing it? What do you want Killer mains? YOU'RE TEARING ME APART!
Doesnt matter what you do.
If you do well in your job, thats a problem because the game has been designed for casual "fooling around" instead of players actually trying to win.Blame the devs for that
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@Wolf74 said:
@powerbats said:
So now there's this huge population imbalance of too many killers.Can we please stop spreading that urban myth?
There are technical issues that need to get fixed.IF this would just be the unbalance in player playing one side, it would fix itself, because all the killer mains switched to play survivor, because we do not get any lobbies!
You cant play a normal game anymore, the only players that are playing currently are those farming for the event.
And ofc, switching the sides in a 1:4 game leads to higher queue times (16 times longer), that should not be hard to understand.Its funny though how every "main" played their prefered role first, maxed it out and now wants to play the other side.
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@SasukeKun said:
I've been trying to do my Killer event tasks but cannot because it takes about 20 minutes or LONGER to find survivors with like over 20k playing. Is this a bug?Switching both sides in a 1vs4 naturally leads to 16 times longer queue times, thats easy math.
Then additionally there is the fact that survivors can farm vials faster than killer, so they have finished earlier.What about all the posts " killer sided event, kilelrs have it so easy this event". Not relevant anymore?
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@Rex_Huin said:
15 for survivor and 15 for killer.All done in a few days, one nice outfit, grind done and back to normal?
Now everyone is having a moan and a grizzle basically because its going on too long.
I think they were pressured into making a poor choice.
I was done with 30 on both sides 2 days ago already.
It was a weekend event basically.Its a joke that the event lasts 2 weeks, but who am I to complain.
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I thought geting killer vials is so easy, wasnt that what all survivors complained about?
Btw, the original plan was to have only 15 vials on each side, so consider your suggestion to be carried out already since you can gain 30 only on survivor now
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@DarkFox85 said:
There have been some great SWF groups that are very sportsmanlike, but why, as consumers, should this sort of thing be allowed?
I've reported both and have a full video of the entire match but nothing will come of it. I swear to Christ I didnt even camp - which is good for the Hag.
Something needs to be done about SWF. End of.
It makes me want to hit back. Have a pop at all survivor mains. Be toxic myself.
It's not helpful...[EDIT: Forgot to mention. Checked them out - all 4 are friends]
Thanks for the laugh
But tbh, its your fault for going into a game like this. The devs gave you the power to lobbydodge those games until they figure out a solution.
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Usually you get placed against low rank killers, even though there is a chance you verse a higher ranked one too (unlikely though)
One of the reason why killers hate SWF so much
From my experience, a SWF containing ranks 17,12 and 6 will play against a rank 15-12 killer usually
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@Doctor_Derek said:
Boring 1 shot mechanic. Shouldn't be able to stack with the belt if it's going to be in the game.insta heal is too strong.
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@Zavri said:
1 game: No one gave a ######### about the nectar and played a "normal" match. Match result: 3k 1 trap door.4 games: All the survivors didn't give a ######### about anything but getting me my hooks asap. They then proceeded to do their nectar pools, i allowed. they then let me kill them to end it. No gens done. < wraith, billy, freddy >
44 games: With only obvious tells ( bell ringing, saw reving, melee swinging etc ) at hooks or watching them grab nectar, these games allowed me to get "most" of my hooks while grabbing all of the nectar pools. < billy, wraith, freddy, nurse >
51 games: At the start if they get caught at a pool they continue to harvest, i play normally and grab and hook. they still try to show farm signals but i play normally. they spam flashlights and whatever but I play normally while grabbing event hooks when I can. At end of game I get called all sorts of names like tryhard, ######### cuck, can only rank during a farming event, etc.
< Mostly nurse but some billy and clown >
after this ######### i realized it's best to pretend the event doesn't exist and just play normally while realizing the flowers are basically a gen.
I only needed 30-40 matches to realize that I will quit DBD until the event is over
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@greenzebra64 said:
Survivors can just milk their cankers and kill themselves while killers have to wait in terrible queue times and if the survivors put enough offerings, they can get a full vial.Still survivors believed it was a killer sided event at the beginning.
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@George_Soros said:
@Sheldor said:
20 Minutes minimum per killer lobby and then enjoy a tryhard group of survivors looping and jumping the same places over and over again denying you any event hooks. Can't get more than 1 vial per hour waited in the lobby (and played 5-10 minutes per game)Same here, except I got my 30 killer vials early so that's not an issue. But 20 minutes and then getting tryhard SWF-s (not caring about nectar either)... such a pain in the ass.
I play a bit of survivor, but survivor is just too easy, plus, half the time killers want to farm which I hate. Sometimes I try to help them out because they're so desperate, but it's boring.Here's what I did though: reinstalled Bioshock Infinite after a long time and going through it. You guys should do the same
Playing the new oxygen not included patch and gwent atm
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@SilentBread said:
It takes me all of 10 min to find 4 other survivors (if they're SWF, if not probably longer). Yet, when I play as survivor I get into a lobby almost instantly.######### happens when the 1:4 community suddenly switches sides, math suggests that killer lobbies take 16 times longer now.
Additionally, farming the event is way easier on survivor, so you are faster done on this side.
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You sold your pc to buy a console I'm order to play one console exclusiv?ApacheLand said:I didn't have enough to keep my pc and get a one x and red dead isn't on PC
feelsbad
Well that'ß been a bad decision if you ask me^^
I wouldn't play dbd on console either, but at least you got rdr now?
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I like balanced landing even though dad hard is probably better in a lag free games
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There are other games than Civ and death garden
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Why would you switch from pc to console
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The event was a huge farming session that ruined the actual gameplay.
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Basically you are right, but don't forget that you will have better latency to a server than to another random player in the p2p systemShowMeUrBirb said:@Kilmeran said:
@Peanits said:
Dedicated servers are not such a clear cut best option. Just a couple, for example:1: More lag for killers. Right now, everything is handled on your end. When you should get a hit, you get a hit. With a dedicated server, there's going to be a delay on everything you do. If someone vaults a window and you hit them them, you might not get a hit because by the time that command gets to the server, they're out of range and safe. It's important that the killer is able to consistently get hits, and missing a single one due to lag can buy the survivor a significant amount of time.
I will call this one out. If you're going to run 30-tick servers, then yes. This is why you run 60-tick servers, which is why they are run in FPS games. It's to take that lag to an absolute minimum.
It's also why you run region based servers, otherwise, you run into the other issue you mentioned, which is exactly why Paladins is such a trash game if you're not U.S. based.
I've looked at BHVR as a company at their website. They certainly don't seem to be a small company. It just seems like they'd prefer not to make the necessary investment for servers in DBD.
Ticks work only on server-side. If you're having 200 ping, tick-rate doesn't matter. We already have players with 200-ish ping on P2P connection. Servers would crank this up for them by next 20-50ms.
I'm not an IT tho, I might be wrong.
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I do play with the new skins, no fps difference for me, but optimization isn't good in generalrafajsp said:@Master said:
@rafajsp said:
I'm noticed a huge drop on number of players on PS4.
I know lot of people are playing killer, but everytime i get into killer, i find almost the same survivors again and again.
Also, on my friends list, there are a lot of guys who don't play anymore or playing very rarely (even the hardcore ones).
We always know BHVR don't care about console, so maybe this is deserved.
Reasons players get away:- Pallet nerf
- Healing nerf
- Vault nerf
- Event patch made FPS worse for Killers (playing with skins is like restarting the game every 5 matches)
Ps.: I am a Killer main, before someone say "You are crying."
FPS is the same as before for me.
As survivor I barely see a difference except that some of the broken loops are closed now
Play with new killer skins and reply this same sentence.
Well, i feel worst fps, maybe its me only.
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@rafajsp said:
I'm noticed a huge drop on number of players on PS4.
I know lot of people are playing killer, but everytime i get into killer, i find almost the same survivors again and again.
Also, on my friends list, there are a lot of guys who don't play anymore or playing very rarely (even the hardcore ones).
We always know BHVR don't care about console, so maybe this is deserved.
Reasons players get away:- Pallet nerf
- Healing nerf
- Vault nerf
- Event patch made FPS worse for Killers (playing with skins is like restarting the game every 5 matches)
Ps.: I am a Killer main, before someone say "You are crying."
FPS is the same as before for me.
As survivor I barely see a difference except that some of the broken loops are closed now