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Same but it would increase playerbase and it has some nice ideas and chars
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Curious to see the results.
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Replace Quentin with a loot box
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Runs slower but needs 3 hit to go down
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Doesnt work properly either ways
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I am happy to update the table and the graph if anybody feels like I left something out.
This of course a quantitative representation, and not a qualitative one.
Some of the nerf\buff can ofc have more weight than others on both sides but I wanted just to represent objectively the number of interventions without any subjective "rating" to each one.
So we have the raw data of what happened.
There are still some trends and consideration we can make and questions we can ask, like:
- Are killers usually too weak when they are first released? Given the amount of improvements needed - look how many time the wraith have been buffed in 2 years - it looks like something is wrong with that.
- Was the game generically too unbalanced towards survs 2 years ago?
- while the surv nerf\buff is "gently" leaning downward (currently around-15) the killer nerf\buff ratio looks like growing exponentially: what does that mean?
- Is the surv playerbase getting better faster than the killer playerbase so a constant nerf to surv capabilities is and will always be needed?
- In this framework, it appears like it will never be possible to touch some big issues like: hitbox, lag, vacuums and so; since those are generically killer advantages they would heavily impact the game with the inevitable following need for many more survivors nerfs to balance back.
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Soooo many times they get the hook thanks to the vacuum...
¯_(ツ)_/¯ they will never touch it
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@alivebydeadight said:
@Radiant said:
They are just 5 totems, no need to do that even for solos.but if your in solos, how would you know if all 5 totems are cleansed
if i want to nullify a noed in advance, I usually go around the map: broken ones are pretty visible.
time consuming but can be worth it. -
So... how are things going?
Still lobby issues?Unfortunately not even BP event is really working...
Still denying that people didn't really like the surv nerf?
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lol
there is no even reason to do this, we all know the outcome of these matches.Camping is the safest way for killers to play this game (pgj)
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Spirit = I ignore totems = nub surv runs happily to do totems
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Alien and Goku in Teletubbieland
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They are just 5 totems, no need to do that even for solos.
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No wonder the game is where it is now with such baby killers....
I blame it in devs anyway, not on frustrated teenagers used to Assassin's Creed-like unchallenging games... -
They are afraid of the post-event, post-nerf shitstorm so they just made a recorded video (discussing other topics) and probably (hopefully) working hard to recover from the failure before going live again.
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@HP150 @SoulBagel lol
Typical killers main full of hate.
Get over it, survs have lost the fun and they are nit playing as much as they used to.
The additional obvious proof is the BP event right after another BP event: they try to have players back.
During the event "is a bug"
Then devs said no bug "is the event vial cap"
Then they removed cap "is the event, wait until it finishes"
Then the event finished "is a bug"
Rotfl guys, rly...
Let's hope i am wrong, what to say... -
Nice necro.
Thriller screenwriting is not just using a lot of suspension marks to give thrill.
You know that right? -
Is. The. Nerf.
Get over it guys...Need another proof?
The bloodpoint event right after the halloween event (that gave BP too) to try to call back some surv... weird, no?STATS
- From July, when the exhaustion nerf happened (together with other nerf to surv and killer buffs), the playerbase has decreased steadily (ring any bell?)
- "Last drop" Patch happens on 16 Oct and then...
- Saturday 20 Oct: peak 51k players
- Saturday 27 Oct: peak 44k players
- Saturday 3 Nov: peak 34k players - when everybody was supposed to come back after event
10k less players per week after the patch.
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"it's a bug!" - random killer main
:silenced:
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Terrible event.
It screw the game instead of improving it, very killer sided:
- Cosmetics only for killers (don't try to say that Claudy and Dwight ones were half decent)
- Killers had to do same objective
- Killers were getting free kills = free rank = free BP
- Not possible to sabo event hooks = even easier game for killers
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Well, event is more than finished now and still long killer times with people complaining on forums.
Killer changed their answer from "is the event" to "is a bug".
Amazing.
Guess I was right... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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aka "remove teachable perks" (to which I agree).
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I disagree.
I paid and I want only well thought and well tested features.
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Looking forward for the event survey.
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@AntiJelly said:
@Radiant said:
Hope it was just an intern.Please. Think before you speak. Keep in mind this is literally BHVR's first ever own IP video game, and on top of that, this is the first time they messed with the idea of a secondary objective. It's a learning experience for them.
They should pay ######### testers instead of using us.
I like bhvr, the game and the lore of this event, but they should fire the guy, it ruined the game for everyone. -
Glad to see some killer mains r cooling down a bit.
I can now start to distinguish grown ups from babies.
Is killer lobby time still bad anyway?
Lots of posts popping out... -
Uuu space would be nice too!
Also egypt!
And red forest shoul have two more maps. -
Candy Crush community is much worse
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Wasnt this solved because"is all event fault"?
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Mori this thread
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Plz remove weapon from killer
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Very true.ToastfaceKilla said:It's not viable in the game that we all play. Aside from in specific circumstances. (Gates open, hookswarm, Tunnelling for Dying light, etc.) It was viable in that Tournament, because of the rules they used. That decision, which was regarded by the community at the time as being really stupid, for this exact reason. It has no real relevancy on the game we actually play.
While I understand the ratio in the choice - there was 15k USD price if I recall and they had it to appear "pro game" - removing the perks make it a very different game.
But would have they play differently? Maybe trying hook save in 4 aggressively with instaheals?
But vs a very skilled killer with purple/pink addons, would you try a camped hook save?
And with BnC would the killer camp? Or just nurse-blink like crazy ending the mach in 5 mins?
Is there any tournament they played allowing perks and addons to be used? A serious one not with baby players.
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You guys are unbelievable... rly.
Have you at least read what I wrote?
Have you at least seen the video from the tournament?
lmao playing killer rly messes with braincells....
whatever ¯\_( ͠° ͟ʖ °͠ )_/¯ -
plz format
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I love when they just answer without reading anything...
p.s. she was using also Yakuyoke Amulet
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@Michiko said:
Radiant said:
Plz make claudette hot?Why is she not hot? Because she has darkskin and coarse hair? I'm seriously curious.
Ehm... no.
Because she simply looks not hot.She looks more like this:
Than like this:
Does this answer to your racism-suggesting question?
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@Master said:
Actually I have a master degree in maths, funny that you mention this
You claimed that the survivor hitbox is 3 times bigger than the actual survivor, clearly your image disproves that.
I am sorry dude, really.
Maybe you should give back the master you invented... ever heard of 3 dimensions?If looking at the Meg standing on the XY plan already takes 1 additional Meg to fill the capsule, how do you think that Meg looks from the side (Z axis)?
3x Megs to fill up that capsule... sorry.
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Thanks @Nos37 for explaining something you made up in your mind.
Next time take the disturb to read the thread before dropping casual sentences.Best
(hint: "... I stopped some time ago..." if you focus I bet you can understand the underlying meaning)
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So many triggered killers without reason....
My point is: A mediocre killer wiped away 3\4 of survs without chases due to a very rare (not ultra) addon.
So many touchy babies...
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Hi killer mains, I welcome you all to another topic you're trying to hide under tons of useless answers.
Kisses.
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I am sorry for you. I hug you dearly.
Here, come poor fellow player, I teach you something now.HITBOXES
SURVIVORS: they are all capsule shaped and are the same size for every character.
Amazingly they don't change in shape when you do a gen or a totem (!!!!) so you can basically be hitten 1 meter above your head.
They reduce slightly when you crouch, but that is all.
CURRENT HATCHET: the big sphere is the hitbox of the hatchet, if any part of the sphere hits any part of the capsule, you go down.
See that small sphere inside, near the hatchet handle? Well THAT is the hatchet collision to the other objects of the world.
If THAT small sphere hits a tree then the hatchet hits a tree, otherwise you go down.
This answers to "I got hit behind a tree" or "around the corner!". This is why.
REWORKED HATCHET this is the rework they tried to apply to the hatchet, with hitbox and collision of the same squared shape and size, more similar to the actualt shape of the hatchet.
Complaints from the killers where so loud they had to rollback to the above.
So, dear @Master, maybe study the above math and STFU?
Hugs
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@Michiko said:
chococri said:Make Claudette white plz
Please stop. I’m sick of seeing this. She is the ONLY dark skin female in this game, let her be that. You sound prejudice and look bad. Claudette is BLACK not WHITE, deal with it or uninstall.
Plz make claudette hot?
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Zero skill.
I can tell you cause she couldnt get me even once.
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@Malakir if you come from any serious FPS you find killer side of this game so easy that is unchallenging and useless to play: find, hook, repeat, 4k.
That's why I stopped some time ago and I only use killer for dailies now with embarassing ez matches without perks or addons.
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Let's do some math:
Wrong capsule-shaped surv hitbox that is 3x times bigger than the actual surv and doesn't change with any movement (except crouch)
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Huge spheric shaped killer hitbox that can hit in any direction in 90% of the lunge movement
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Lag due to p2p connection
IS EQUAL TO
Counter-intuitive collision system you have to get used to after hundreds of hours of play (if you're a surv, if killer is just a gift).
THEREFORE
Just get used to this #########, is not gonna change: when they tried to rework the huntress hatchets to a more realistic one they made a mess cause suddenly they had to aim (lol).
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Look at thiss...
many killer babies crying about good survivors.So cute
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Bhvr is trying to say they are not involved as they are two separate companies, but you should really put this on bhvr as they advertised and gave rights for the mask replicas to the company and those where in their merchsndise shop.
Ask money to bhvr and they should be asking back to the shady producing company.
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Insidious is meant for babycampers. Have fun in the basement with that on Leatherface.
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Nice post with interesting ideas.
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@Sinner don't bother replying babykiller mains around here.
Let's see what BHVR is willing to do...