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Just be glad one of these Devs didn't think Ochidos toxic ass was worth a customization.
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@Nightmare247 said:
@Vortexas said:
Still no ones proved me wrong.The last survivor is not entitled to a free escape, which is exactly what the Hatch is considering Bhvr bitc hed out on the close the hatch change, and have NOT mentioned when or IF it will be revisited.
So to prove you wrong, you are in no way "ENTITLED" to a 4k because you killed/camped/ tunneled the other 3 players. So if a team is terrible, but one player isn't they deserve the opportunity to escape. I know this can be abused. Sure, you will have some urban evading Claudette who will camp over the hatch while 2 or 3 of their teammates are on hooks, but there are some legitimately good survivors who solo queue with terrible teammates. They deserve an opportunity, this is the keyword OPPORTUNITY, to escape. You have the OPPORTUNITY to catch and kill them before they get there, so use your OPPORTUNITY to do so.
So how about you find the urban evading player before they get to the hatch? You should not get a free kill because one survivor did objectives and you did yours. As a killer main the hatch should only be removed once the game has a gate opened. That way you don't have someone just sitting on the hatch. Otherwise, hit the survivor and go play another trial.
Most times I actually do.
However last couple of days I've gotten about a Dozen games where someone kills themselves, or intentionally DC's to give the fourth guy the hatch after the team has been totally destroyed.
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Still no ones proved me wrong.
The last survivor is not entitled to a free escape, which is exactly what the Hatch is considering Bhvr bitc hed out on the close the hatch change, and have NOT mentioned when or IF it will be revisited.
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@Global said:
@Vortexas said:
@Global said:
@Vortexas said:
Better idea.You DC you are banned from playing for the rest of the day. No limit to these bans, no stacking of time or increases.
You DC you are done for the day. Intentional or not.
This is a casual game (Even tho you get banned for dcing) so no especially if the reason is just because internet dropped or a plug got pulled.
If you are running on unstable Mexicano internet then don't play an online game.
There are more reason than having a kilobyte a second internet speed that makes you disconnect from a game. You know that right?
Again.
If your internet is unstable please do not play an online game. Your issues shouldn't hinder anyone BUT your fun, and yet it does.
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And nothing of value was lost.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h95bFj8CI-IOP Made a youtube video about this.
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@Sythalin said:
@Vortexas said:
@Sythalin said:
@Vortexas said:
@Sythalin said:
@Vortexas said:
You DC intentionally as Killer or Survivor you clearly are salty, and tilted and need to take the day off the game.This is not the case at all. I'm not going to be a liar and say I've never DC'd a game before, but not because of "being salty" or "tilted". 99% of the time is either:
1.as survivor, killer literally facecamps on first hook (yes I'm aware of the new changes to discourage this) when he knows for a fact no one is around (I see them on the other side of the map)
2. as killer, a SWF (confirmed, I check before I even hit ready) is clearly there just to bully me all game in contrast to trying to keep me distracted (2-3 surrounding to flashlight spam, teabagging at exit for 5+ minutes, etc.)Other times, the game crashes or my IP takes a ######### for like 2-3 minutes. In short, not every DC is intentional because "they're salty".
1 and 2 are literally the definition of DCing because you are salty.
There's a difference between "being salty" (in reference to being mad about losing) and wanting to have a fun game, win or lose, without dealing with children just wanting to make the player themselves miserable "for the lulz" (or whatever stream they're currently running in hopes of being an Ochid0 clone).
To put it into another scenario, it's like going to an arcade (showing my age, I know) to play some fighting game for fun with others and a group of kids show up, ######### talking and kicking your shins the entire time, not caring about playing at all, just to simply piss you off.
If you can't see the difference, then there's nothing left to discuss with you on the matter.
If you are being Face camped, just try to kobe, then die. No DC needed.
Survivors SWF trolling you?, face an exit handle, then go make a sandwhich. No DC needed.
Yes your solution is purely salt driven.
As for the Arcane. That's when you tell the manager or an Employee whats going on and get them kicked out.
1. I've actually started doing this, despite my distaste for the killer being rewarded for wasting my time.
2. Or I can just leave because a) you know full well that said survivors will drag the game out as long as possible even if you don't engage them and b) afking is actually reportable offenseIf wanting to enjoy my time playing is "being salty", then guilty as charged I suppose.
I dunno I usually play pretty stealthy killers like Myers, Wraith, and the Fredster. So I can usually hide somewhere and wait them out pretty easily. Hell it's even gotten me kills when one of the cocky cucks decides to come find me.
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@blue4zion said:
There was a recent rank reset?Yea, but his rank wouldn't have dipped that low.
Some bug with the new way the game loads forgot his rank progression. Therefore LOL time.
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@Sythalin said:
@Aari_Piggy66 said:
Now how exactly would you put outplayed the killer into context. Because if you're one of those people who urban evasion around and do absolutely nothing you shouldn't be rewarded for that shine or technicality unless the killer is lucky and happens to bump into you, you won't actually in be found by them but it's still not something you should be rewarded for.Using Urban Evasion to just run around the map until everyone else finishes the gens for you? Clearly not, and that would be represented by lack of progress on the other emblems. I use UE myself and still do gens and rescues while escaping unseen. That is what I consider as being "outplayed" and "successfully evaded the killer".
If you REALLY want to bamboozle a Killer throw in Dance with me, and Lilthe with UE.
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@Sythalin said:
@Vortexas said:
@Sythalin said:
@Vortexas said:
You DC intentionally as Killer or Survivor you clearly are salty, and tilted and need to take the day off the game.This is not the case at all. I'm not going to be a liar and say I've never DC'd a game before, but not because of "being salty" or "tilted". 99% of the time is either:
1.as survivor, killer literally facecamps on first hook (yes I'm aware of the new changes to discourage this) when he knows for a fact no one is around (I see them on the other side of the map)
2. as killer, a SWF (confirmed, I check before I even hit ready) is clearly there just to bully me all game in contrast to trying to keep me distracted (2-3 surrounding to flashlight spam, teabagging at exit for 5+ minutes, etc.)Other times, the game crashes or my IP takes a ######### for like 2-3 minutes. In short, not every DC is intentional because "they're salty".
1 and 2 are literally the definition of DCing because you are salty.
There's a difference between "being salty" (in reference to being mad about losing) and wanting to have a fun game, win or lose, without dealing with children just wanting to make the player themselves miserable "for the lulz" (or whatever stream they're currently running in hopes of being an Ochid0 clone).
To put it into another scenario, it's like going to an arcade (showing my age, I know) to play some fighting game for fun with others and a group of kids show up, ######### talking and kicking your shins the entire time, not caring about playing at all, just to simply piss you off.
If you can't see the difference, then there's nothing left to discuss with you on the matter.
If you are being Face camped, just try to kobe, then die. No DC needed.
Survivors SWF trolling you?, face an exit handle, then go make a sandwhich. No DC needed.
Yes your solution is purely salt driven.
As for the Arcane. That's when you tell the manager or an Employee whats going on and get them kicked out.
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You answered your own question son.
Because consoles are for children. PS4 especially.
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@Lowbei said:
Vortexas said:@Lowbei said:
Dreamnomad said:
@Vortexas said: No Solution is perfect, and to be frank if your ISP going down is an issue you have to deal with regularily, then your internet is too unstable to play an online game. Maybe not, but there is reasonable and unreasonable. Your "solution" is unreasonable. wait, what is unreasonable about people with unstable internet being told not to play online competitive matches?
if your internet sucks, thats your problem, not everyone elses.
D-Did we just become best friends?
we always have been
EXCELLENT!
Coke and Hookers at my place at 7.
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@Vortexas said:
@DemonDaddy said:
I use stealth every game of survivor cause I don't use the traditional looping perks. It really is just a matter of staying out of sight and nearby. Not often or anything, but I have received a few iridescents just for being sneaky that way.It's really not that hard to do.
Hell in low to Mid Ranks killers are like T-Rex's don't move, and they won't see you.
We need a Meme Smith.
Photo Shop Dr Grant from Jurassic Park's head into Claudettes on the scene where he's holding a flare out infront of the T-rex. Shop the T-rex's head to any killers.
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@Sythalin said:
@Vortexas said:
You DC intentionally as Killer or Survivor you clearly are salty, and tilted and need to take the day off the game.This is not the case at all. I'm not going to be a liar and say I've never DC'd a game before, but not because of "being salty" or "tilted". 99% of the time is either:
1.as survivor, killer literally facecamps on first hook (yes I'm aware of the new changes to discourage this) when he knows for a fact no one is around (I see them on the other side of the map)
2. as killer, a SWF (confirmed, I check before I even hit ready) is clearly there just to bully me all game in contrast to trying to keep me distracted (2-3 surrounding to flashlight spam, teabagging at exit for 5+ minutes, etc.)Other times, the game crashes or my IP takes a ######### for like 2-3 minutes. In short, not every DC is intentional because "they're salty".
1 and 2 are literally the definition of DCing because you are salty.
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@DemonDaddy said:
I use stealth every game of survivor cause I don't use the traditional looping perks. It really is just a matter of staying out of sight and nearby. Not often or anything, but I have received a few iridescents just for being sneaky that way.It's really not that hard to do.
Hell in low to Mid Ranks killers are like T-Rex's don't move, and they won't see you.
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@Lowbei said:
Dreamnomad said:@Vortexas said:
No Solution is perfect, and to be frank if your ISP going down is an issue you have to deal with regularily, then your internet is too unstable to play an online game.
Maybe not, but there is reasonable and unreasonable. Your "solution" is unreasonable.
wait, what is unreasonable about people with unstable internet being told not to play online competitive matches?
if your internet sucks, thats your problem, not everyone elses.
D-Did we just become best friends?
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@Dreamnomad said:
@Vortexas said:
No Solution is perfect, and to be frank if your ISP going down is an issue you have to deal with regularily, then your internet is too unstable to play an online game.
Maybe not, but there is reasonable and unreasonable. Your "solution" is unreasonable.
How so?
You DC intentionally as Killer or Survivor you clearly are salty, and tilted and need to take the day off the game.
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@Sythalin said:
Which is exactly my point in general. You outplayed the killer, avoided detection and escaped yet you are awarded less than if you stand out in the open, loop the killer for 5 min and still die by the end of the game. In the latter, I've personally pulled Gold+ before, thus why I can't wrap my head around the logic of playing better = less reward.Please stand out in the open, it makes it so much easier for me to find you.
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@Dreamnomad said:
@Vortexas said:
Better idea.You DC you are banned from playing for the rest of the day. No limit to these bans, no stacking of time or increases.
You DC you are done for the day. Intentional or not.
That isn't right. If your ISP goes down for an hour and you happened to be in game then you shouldn't be banned from playing the rest of the day. That is beyond your control. A more fair system would be 3 min for first DC, 30 min second DC, 3 hour 3rd DC, 3 day 4th DC.
No Solution is perfect, and to be frank if your ISP going down is an issue you have to deal with regularily, then your internet is too unstable to play an online game.
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@fcc2014 said:
Increased built in time and notification for hexes built in.Thrill of the hunt could be changed to a killer action speed perk the reverse of fire up. Start out faster and slow down to base speed as generators pop. Lets killer apply more pressure early
See I like that too.
Would really help slower moving killers a Great deal!
Alternatively when a totem dull or otherwise is destroyed you loose part of that speed boost as well.
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Better idea.
You DC you are banned from playing for the rest of the day. No limit to these bans, no stacking of time or increases.
You DC you are done for the day. Intentional or not.
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Oh I also forgot.
Bye OP see you next Chapter, because we both know you aren't leaving. You are just Mad that Killers have a perk that works at all levels now, like survivors have had for awhile in DS.
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You could always just k ill yourself on that hook. Then it's gone the entire game, problem solved!
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@Visionmaker said:
Vortexas said:No. The Exit gates should be blocked if the Killer is within 5 Meters of the Gate. Be slick or be dead.
30 minutes of immersion later...
That's why there are two exit gates. Same thing as the Killer hatch campin. Make em move, or get a free escape.
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That'd be neat!
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@Peasant said:
DeadByFlashlight said:@Skrzydlata said:
But Killers can still kick and camp event gens.
Id still like to know how you can camp at multiple places at the same time.
Is there a new killer that has several copies of himself?
Didn't you hear about the new Doctor buff? Now he can teleport to his illusions.
That would actually be a REALLY badass Addon. Say it's negative is he can only spread Madness passively through his terror radius.
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@AnotherRandy said:
Agree, it feels not realisticIt's as realistic as a Man sewing his own intestines back in after getting hit by a chainsaw, then sprint bursting away like Usain Bolt.
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No. The Exit gates should be blocked if the Killer is within 5 Meters of the Gate. Be slick or be dead.
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I am pleased with the NOED changes.
After all, DS gives its break free on every level.
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@Mister_xD said:
so you want to encourage pay2win?
cause thats exactly what you would do: force players to spand money in orer to get stuff they could need for killing / surviving and that is exactly what Behaviour said they never wanted in their game, so yeah. that wont happen.And?
If 4-6 Dollars brings you to the BREAKING POINT then you should probably go back to the foodbank and get line instead of hitting up dbd.
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Underrated Survivor Perk: It would either be We'll Make It and or Kindred.
Overrated Survivor Perk: Sprint Burst and or DS.
Underrated Killer Perk: Bitter Murmur
Overrated Killer Perk: Ruin. I am starting to ween myself off of it since I am playing Higher ranked games now, it doesn't really help all t hat much. Unless I am doing something specific like Tier 1 Myers or something.
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Suggestions:
Save up 100k before Friday (Easy to do)
Take all your favorite Killers and Survivors and get them to one pick from the next blood web on thursday. -
Thats right respect the Leatherface Mafia OG!
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You guys are derailing my protest thread. Piss off.
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Whats your Freddy build?
Currently I use
BBQ and Chili, M&A, Ruin, and Save the Best for Last usually with Class Photo and Paint Thinner/Pill Bottle/Yellow dress add on.
Its fun pinballing around the map putting everyone to sleep really throws folks off at all ranks.
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Don't be afraid to drop a survivor if you need too.
Last night I got a 4k by doing it. Caught a Claud going for a save, and managed to get a chainsaw whip on her as Billy. While carrying her to the hook (1 was dead 1 was on hook) I see the David get ballsy and right past me on his way to unhook my other victim.
He didn't expect me to toss claudette on the ground like a bag of trash, even raged on me after the match claiming I lag switched him, when he didn't drop a pallet fast enough vs a blood lust lunge.
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@Grimbergoth said:
@Vortexas said:
I want p1 on Freddy, but I am too scared to even do it now. I have all the perfect perks for him at rank 3, and don't want to go through the nightmare of trying to get them to appear on my blood web.
I'd Pres my Billy...after the SLOG I had to go through to get BBQ rank 3 on him, that's never happening.
I can say at p3 on freddy you wont have any wants for morri , about every 2 or 3 webs I get one that has 4 or 5 mori in a single web . right now im sitting on apox 30 morri's 9 red 13 green and the rest yellows . Also have about a dozen paint thinners and nancys class photos . the add ons are coming nice , but the perks are sucking . since I seen bbq the first time I have seen shadowborn and insidious 23 and 27 times in the web . I did get noed fairly easy though .
Sounds like you are going to need to do what I did with Billy.
Just start taking perks one at a time. Preferring ones that are rank 2 or 3 over rank 1's regardless, just to clear the back log of possible perks that will pop up.
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@Grimbergoth said:
on freddy I was p3 37 before I even seen bbq the first time , hes still bbq1 and im 33 webs past p3 50 .I want p1 on Freddy, but I am too scared to even do it now. I have all the perfect perks for him at rank 3, and don't want to go through the nightmare of trying to get them to appear on my blood web.
I'd Pres my Billy...after the SLOG I had to go through to get BBQ rank 3 on him, that's never happening.
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@Dreamnomad said:
Obviously the game developers don't want to encourage camping. That's why they make perks like BBQ, MYC, Devour Hope, Pop Goes The Weasel, etc. This is just another very gentle way of encouraging killers to not camp. You still can though. If you want to De-Rank while still killing survivors then they just did you a favor really.Thats not the point.
Most killers (myself included) only break out the camp fire after the exit gates are powered and we have one on the hook. Now we are being told we are going to be punished if we don't ######### off, and let the survivor have a free escape.
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@Grimbergoth said:
@Vortexas said:
I don't think there is much rng to it , I have leatherface and unlocked it leveling . even so I have seen it once on the shrine and in a certain killer ive been leveling I have seen it once there too in 233 bloodwebs .
Blood webs are a whole different animal.
I have literally gotten rank 1-2 in ALL perks minimum if not rank 3 before I got my BBQ on Billy pushed up to 3. Have done about 120 blood webs on Hunterina and JUST got BBQ rank 1.
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@F5arTheB5ard said:
How close to the hook do you have to be to start losing points?8m for heavy loss 16 for a smaller loss.
Basically they are trying to hand survivors free escapes, because they keep being entitled bitches.
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@Lowbei said:
Vortexas said:I intend to spend all of patch day playing Insidious Leatherface just to punish every survivor team I go against for this change.
that sounds fun. ill join you.
Then I formally as an OG in the Leatherface Mafia welcome you! I am glad to see you have Forsaken the Myers Triad.
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I intend to spend all of patch day playing Insidious Leatherface just to punish every survivor team I go against for this change.
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If I could turn the music off, but keep all of the other effects I would.
All you really need is the heartbeat.
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This penalty needs to be removed once the Exit gates are powered.
I should not be penalized for camping the last person I catch to prevent them from getting a free escape.
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I hope not.
Ghostface would be a garbage addition to the killer rooster.
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@AnotherRandy said:
I dont want to pay money for a sh*t killer like lestherface I don't enjoy. I JUST want bbq. It's not only a good perk to locate survivors but also farm BP double as fast as without. I would put this as pay2win even now, because it didn't show up a single time for a year now. And before I'm going to blindly buy all DLC ,the devs have to fix that game first. I'm not interested into more content, I'm interested into a balanced, fun and bugfree game. Before this didn't happen, I won't support. They already got 20 bucks to begin with but yet the core issues of this game are still thereIn all that time you could have simply boughten leatherdaddy and grinded it out for the perk.
I agree though it's been retardedly long since BBQ was on the Shrine, which is why i say we should just remove Movie Survivor/Killer perks from the Shrine entirely.
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It'd be better if disturbing a crow gave you one crow for 5/10/15 seconds based on perk level.
