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4 - What's the meaning of life?
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They use the same forum site as ESO forums, and they dont have the ignore feature either. So you'll just have to deal with people you don't like.
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"On top of that, having BW activated as long as someone is on the hook, as opposed to a one time use for the first hook for 60 seconds is also real nice."
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Ask for Marilyn Manson instead xD
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Jack the Ripper wouldn't fit AT ALL in this game.
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You know red lights were made so people can have some sort of light while still being used to the darkness, right?
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@Aziux @chemical_reject it's the typical gold sink from video games. I don't really think we will ever be able to see that.
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You started with "i get more points", something tells me that it's your main priority.Eveline said:So I'm selfish if I keep the killer busy? Ok lol. -
Weren't you the one complaining about teammates being selfish?
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Post this in general discussions, killers DC as well.MEGISTHICC said:Hi Dead By Daylight
I really love your game but I'm sorry to tell you that like this but you really have to do anything about disconnecters
i saw you did anything for the guys who don't join the game but for the guys that disconnect in the game there is the problem.
It's just like impossible to escape when a man just leave at start of the round there is nothing to stop em!
I suggest to make that these guys are temporaly banned(like 15min for the first time) to make these guys stop just ragequit
Thank you if you read that
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Slug the 3rd and go kill the 4th one
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It is possible, check on profile-notifications
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Meg and Feng ftw
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Could be because profile is pretty new, but life has taught us that these people exist and are capable to create an account just to complain about this, so i dont know.chemical_reject said:
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Sure, i never said "don't touch any of these things".HellDescent said:Buff Leatherface. He's too addon dependent.
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Finally someone understands.fcc2014 said:@RSB said:
Okay, how can I adapt to something I can't see, but they can hear? How can I adapt to someone, who has more tools to juke me, than I have to juke them? How can I adapt, when once they just walk away, and I miss, I need to get looped for at least another 20 seconds, before my power recharges? How can I adapt, when to use my power I need to spend good 2-3 seconds standing in one place, when they can just run, use window/pallet and boom, my power is destroyed?
With this logic, we can say "just adapt" to people playing Wraith and Freddy. They are not bad, people just need to adapt. It is quite sad, that "just adapt" thing does not goes both ways...
Change up your perks and addons. Do you have predator?, Addons show Blood, You seem that you want this too be nice and easy. It shouldn't be easy you are playing with new mechanics. Adapt or Die!
I've played in different games which changes were a common thing, you might like them or not, but at the end there's alway a way to adapt to them, like the people who adapted to the red stain and the ones who keep complaining about it.
Obviously not everything can be perfect but big issues will be fixed eventually. Besides, we are talking about the PTB, so... -
We dont know if another one is gonna come over to complain as well. Just leave the popcorn inside the microwave.Tsulan said:@Vietfox said:
George_Soros said:Lol at this point weÍ're positively offing the hell out of this thread. @Vietfox just say the word and I'll shut up :chuffed:
It's just a topic close to my heart
Lol, i dont mind. Some of the killer mains i was talking about got exposed already. Thanks for that anyway xD
Does that mean you are finished? Or should i go for more popcorn?
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Lol, i dont mind. Some of the killer mains i was talking about got exposed already. Thanks for that anyway xDGeorge_Soros said:Lol at this point weÍ're positively offing the hell out of this thread. @Vietfox just say the word and I'll shut up :chuffed:
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Yeah, i create a discussion telling something in a proper way, without messing with anyone in particular and got some nice replies from killer mains. Then @Giche comes over calling me a troll and assuming i'm an ochido fan but hey... He fights toxicity!pauloandrade22 said:@Mc_Harty said:
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What is wrong with fighting toxicity? i think thats great personally.Social Justice Warriors.
They typically have a habit to push agendas against things they perceive as toxic.
For example - Feminist and Toxic Masculinity
Men's Right Activist and Toxic Femininity.Both sides off the same coin that keep pushing #########, calling each other toxic. Just nothing but fights.
Trust me when I say I'm talking from experience here. If you dedicate your time on the forum just to fight whatever you perceive as toxic, it quickly becomes a slippery slope.
Thats the extremist part of the equation only.
Extremism is always bad.The good ones want both to be equal for one.
And i want people to not insult others in the forums for two . Thats one of the reasons i am as polite as possible . To fight it you know.
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You got that wrong, @Mc_Harty meant that it's ironic cause @giche is the toxic and salty onepauloandrade22 said:@Mc_Harty said:
@Giche said:
To fight the said toxicity.Not letting peoples spewing lies and non-sense to keep the game unbalanced (worked well for them sadly)
To try to not get another Freddy's fiasco.
I know that there are other Veteran down here WAY BETTER than me at this, but hey, i can still try to help.
You cannot be serious....
That's sad. I'm fighting toxicity.
I can't even laugh at that it's so depressing.
You have my condolences buddy.
What is wrong with fighting toxicity? i think thats great personally.
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Please no more posts about this topic xD. They are getting what they were looking for.slingshotsurvivor said:It's ART deal with it. -
You talked about ochido fans, in my discussion, talked about trolls and assumed i was a troll as well, so yeah, can be easily related.Giche said:@Vietfox said:
Do you think i like Ochido or his gamestyle?
I don't know you, how is it relevant to what i say ?
You could, since the majority of survivors i face ingame are wannabe Ochidolings or are acting that way without even knowing him.
Because the game allow them to.
And like with childrens, spoonfeeding a part of the community while ignoring the other create entitlements and toxicity.
Logical.
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You are right.powerbats said:@Giche said:
What i get from this is this is simply a matter of principles.
You can describe the "art of trolling" (lul) as much as you want, it doesn't make it a good thing for me, and still hate it.
What is particular to this game is the fact that the devs have cattered to this troll majority, for the majority of the game lifespan, and only STARTED to fight it recently.
In an healthy game and community , disgusting peoples like OchiPedo would have NEVER been so popular.
And his hardcore fanbase is not better than him, i affirm this without shame.
Hate me all you want for this, but of course never question yourself for defending these kind of peoples.
So when you see numerous serious feedback thread being plagued by those kind of "lighthearted joke xP ", knowing that the devs will certainly LISTEN to this kind of trollish answer, it's just a normal thing to do to not let them destroy the game even more.
Devs have made a lot of money on this toxicity.
Principles again, but for me, hunger should not justify the means.
They solded their souls to the toxic survivors mass, and are trying to get it back lately.
I'll respond later but there's a lot wrong here, especially with your assumptions. I don't like Ochido for one nor his followers. There's pther things but I'll add those in later.
Last messages were about killers by killer mains and i was the one hosting them, and i absolutely don't mind!! I let them talk (because why not? It looked like they were having a nice talk between them) while i was typing somewhere else, but i guess that for some people we are trolls no matter what we do, oh, and ochido fans of course. Gotta admit that the Ochido thing triggered me xD. -
Do you think i like Ochido or his gamestyle?Giche said:@powerbats said:
**There's always trolling on this forum, but the flame war insults go over the top, scrubvivor really? I'm also not talking about just hat post but others as well. The art of trolling is actually quite fun when done right and no one gets offended because there's always certain lines you don't cross.
Some good biting sarcasm within a well reasoned post is a great way to zing one or more while keeping it still this side of civil. I don't see killers feedback as whining anymore than survivors. But what I do consider whining is when the killer isn't even out a full day and the rant threads popup.
What makes it so extremely hilarious is these come from sometimes along with the usual posters who when something negative will affect survivors. They say the exact same thing to them we're saying, it's only been less than a day. We tell them the same thing they said to survivors complaining, wait and see how it works out.**
I know this game and his community at least as much as you do (i assume too), don't tell me how to react to it.
I'm not telling you how to react to it, just warning you of the consequences of one of your choices you've chosen to follow. Since given the direction this thread has gone I'd give it less than a day may'be two before the mods become involved.
Also i still haven't figured out where are the insults in my posts.
I mean legit one.
They're there, you just can't see them since you're so used to using them.
Scrubvivor maybe, but isn' it considered like a "lighthearted joke" like the numerous "Killers just want EZ 4K" and other happy things i see regulary down here ?
Saying killers want EZ 4k isn't on the same level as calling everyone who plays a survivor scrubvivor then repeating it.
I saw that some peoples like to be quite sensitive over this aspect on this forum.
**This is funny since the moment someone calls out some of the killer mains on here they go ballistic. It's not that people are sensitive on here, it's that they're tired of seeing the same mindless mudslinging from the same few on both sides.
If you and the rest really want to have a flame and insult war go get your own private forum and have at it.**
Some weren't on the Steam forum back then, and still aren't on Reddit, quite weird ?
Some don't bother with the cesspool that is Reddit and Steams just as bad now. I've got one of the original accounts from back when Condition Zero was the 1st release from Valve long before Steam was even out. I've had a Reddit account since they were out as well
But Reddit has become the new 4Chan and Steam forums aren't far behind with the COD crowd infesting it. So the fact some refuse to deal with that type of 6 year old behavior means nothing in the context of where they post.
What i get from this is this is simply a matter of principles.
You can describe the "art of trolling" (lul) as much as you want, it doesn't make it a good thing for me, and still hate it.
What is particular to this game is the fact that the devs have cattered to this troll majority, for the majority of the game lifespan, and only STARTED to fight it recently.
In an healthy game and community , disgusting peoples like OchiPedo would have NEVER been so popular.
And his hardcore fanbase is not better than him, i affirm this without shame.
Hate me all you want for this, but of course never question yourself for defending these kind of peoples.
So when you see numerous serious feedback thread being plagued by those kind of "lighthearted joke xP ", knowing that the devs will certainly LISTEN to this kind of trollish answer, it's just a normal thing to do to not let them destroy the game even more.
Devs have made a lot of money on this toxicity.
Principles again, but for me, hunger should not justify the means.
They solded their souls to the toxic survivors mass, and are trying to get it back lately.
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Yes, please devs, listen to this.
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I totally get your point, but we shouldnt give them that much of attention.
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From steam and have played it for less than 2 hours? yes. Though there might be some stuff which can't be refunded.
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It should, it's just another debuff.
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Sorry but @245_Trioxin is completely right. You already got the power role because you can do something that survivors can't do, which is to kill, but just because you are the power role doesn't mean you should be fed with a spoon. Even a 1v1 in an asymmetrical game, if the survivor is skilled enough, should be rewarded and not punished no matter what the survivor does.Orion said:@245_Trioxin said:
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Stalling is not outplaying.I've seen this stated a few times recently, and it's a pretty confusing statement. Can you please elaborate on this?
Basically its when i know you are running in the same exact places that millions have ran(and i know your routing too by the way) but my character (a non nurse killer basically can't counter it unless they [BAD WORD] up ) just to stall me without any attempt to lose or outplay me . Its very frustrating. Especially when people say that that is outplaying the killer(its not).
No, I know what looping is. I want you to explain to me how stalling the killer and getting them away from the other survivors that are doing gens is not outplaying the killer.
Because it is outplaying the killer. You're not seeing the forest for the trees. If a killer gets "stalled" while multiple gens are completed, then the killer got outplayed. It's like playing chess and only watching the moves of one pawn. There's a larger strategy there (that doesn't even need to be communicated, so don't bring SWF into this) that the killer is missing.
So the Killer lets the opponent he should crush 1v1 live, goes to chase another one, boom, looped again. Goes for the third one, boom looped. Fourth one, looped. Oh, wait, all gens have been repaired because looping has no downsides.
Nope. Put pressure on the gens, making the game take longer, chip away at the survivors and force them to make mistakes instead of waiting for them to, and take advantage of those mistakes in order to get the sacrifice. Like I said, it's like chess. I see a lot of talk about mindgames, but it never extends past a pallet or jungle gym.
Don't let the survivors control the pace of the match, take control of the match and force them to make poor decisions. Every time you try to "crush" the survivor by chasing them down through multiple pallets, you're playing into their game.
At the end of the day, you are getting outplayed simply by chasing any one survivor for too long.
Now another question: does it strike you as balanced that the Killer has to consistently lose chases (which are 1v1, where the power role in an asymmetrical game is supposed to crush the opponent) to win the game?
Maybe it's more that your fundamental concept of "my power role is based on crushing opponents" is flawed.
Maybe, just maybe, the idea that "the job of the killer is to kill" is false. Look at it from a different angle. The job of the player is to win. So, if we instead look at it that way, the killer is supposed to, before anything, mitigate gen progression, in order to increase match time and pressure on the survivors, which brings the end result of capitalizing on this combination of time and pressure in order to get sacrifices.
Here's the problem, so long as you let the survivors dictate the rules of the match, you don't have the power role. This isn't something the devs can fix, or the survivors. Only you can fix it. The killer in most matches is submissive, chasing instead of forcing.
Learn what an actual power role is, and become it.
Are you saying that in an asymmetrical role, the power role isn't supposed to be able to defeat the number role 1v1, regardless of what the number role does?
No, I'm saying that your definition of power role is flawed. You can easily defeat any survivor in a 1v1, mechanically. You can down them, hook them, and sacrifice them. None of these things can be done to you by the survivor. But, if you, as a player, cannot beat the survivor because you can't take your blinders off and be the actual power role on the entire map, then you are submitting yourself to the survivor and handing them the power role.
A power role isn't mechanics, it's psychology and strategy.
I hope you're never in any position to affect the development of an asymmetrical game.
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@fcc2014 you might wanna share your opinion here as well.
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We might agree with the fact that op is overreacting, but that's not the best way to convince people of your point.Vankruze said:This is a game, take your feminist and political agenda elsewhere you're not wanted or welcomed by anyone with this pointless hot garbage post!
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Yes they are social problems but i cant see how a video game is making it worse to those problems.BROWN said:@Vietfox said:
BROWN said:@Vietfox said:
For point 3:
Do you usually read books? The more details we have the more immersive is the story.
I dont think the video is unpleasant for the vast majority, it's you being too sensitive. Just compare the trailer with other movies.
"Many Asian women are actually subjected to domestic violence"... I dont actually get this point but, guess what, not only Asian women.
Games, movies and books have all sorts of real stories as a background, so i'm not sure what you mean.
For point 1 and 2 i'm just gonna quote what @chemical_reject said: Lol where were u when shirtless David came about?
Did you read my article? It is quite possible to make a real case motif. but Social issues that victims still exist in all media should not be taken lightly. If the Jewish character that was slaughtered by the Nazis in this game came out with the wound, would not it have been possible to avoid criticism? It is a wrong act to describe the perpetrators' actions as much as necessary, even if that is the purpose of criticism. Hag and HillBilly were all victims, but the damage was never described in detail. Do you think it's right to portray the murder process more than you need and to concentrate on the father who murdered character rather than character?
And, I said the intentions of exposure were different. You should read Point 2 again.
If you dont like it just dont play it. You are overreacting for pointless things.
I didnt notice any exposure till you mentioned it, and probably will forget about it because my mind is not that dirty.
PS: are you american? Just curious.I am Asian. I think English is poor, but I still have to say something. Women 's human rights and commercialization of femininity, domestic violence and murder committed by men are important social problems. Without criticism, there is no development. I think that these problems can be sensitive.
You think people take less seriously this issues because they are shown in a video game? Damn, i didnt even think about domestic violence till you said it, and i'm pretty sure no one else but you did. -
Your keyboard is hard to condrco as well.DarkGGhost said:The new killer is hard to condrco and have an easy counder ( if you know how to play)
She give us one peks that help the devs to not nerd DS, one perks to help with the hex totems but not effective and one perk who rewarding but plays.
Survivors get new skin
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Nice salt mine attempt, have a nice day sirthomasnut said:just have to share this to show how bad survivors are getting. I had one of the last two survivors quit the match on me last night. Here is why.
I killed two of their teammates. The last two needed to pop two gens so there were four left. Three of them were close together and one far off on the other side of the map. So i decided to sacrifice the far gen and patrol the last three. One of which was about 90% done. So what counter strat did they decide to use. Well they dc'd of course. Their excuse you ask?
They actually said they didn't want me holding the game hostage.. rofl. survivors are just getting plain worse and worse.
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If you dont like it just dont play it. You are overreacting for pointless things.BROWN said:@Vietfox said:
For point 3:
Do you usually read books? The more details we have the more immersive is the story.
I dont think the video is unpleasant for the vast majority, it's you being too sensitive. Just compare the trailer with other movies.
"Many Asian women are actually subjected to domestic violence"... I dont actually get this point but, guess what, not only Asian women.
Games, movies and books have all sorts of real stories as a background, so i'm not sure what you mean.
For point 1 and 2 i'm just gonna quote what @chemical_reject said: Lol where were u when shirtless David came about?Did you read my article? It is quite possible to make a real case motif. but Social issues that victims still exist in all media should not be taken lightly. If the Jewish character that was slaughtered by the Nazis in this game came out with the wound, would not it have been possible to avoid criticism? It is a wrong act to describe the perpetrators' actions as much as necessary, even if that is the purpose of criticism. Hag and HillBilly were all victims, but the damage was never described in detail. Do you think it's right to portray the murder process more than you need and to concentrate on the father who murdered character rather than character?
And, I said the intentions of exposure were different. You should read Point 2 again.
I didnt notice any exposure till you mentioned it, and probably will forget about it because my mind is not that dirty.
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Wrong.SovererignKing said:
1 - i dont lobby dodge cause there's no way to know who is gonna be the killer or what the killer is going to do during the match.
2 - what makes you think i use MLGA?
3 - if a get a nurse, camper, etc i just deal with it mate. Remember, this is a game and shouldnt be taken too seriously.
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For point 3:
Do you usually read books? The more details we have the more immersive is the story.
I dont think the video is unpleasant for the vast majority, it's you being too sensitive. Just compare the trailer with other movies.
"Many Asian women are actually subjected to domestic violence"... I dont actually get this point but, guess what, not only Asian women.
Games, movies and books have all sorts of real stories as a background, so i'm not sure what you mean.
For point 1 and 2 i'm just gonna quote what @chemical_reject said: Lol where were u when shirtless David came about? -
Yeah we are trolls cause we disagree with you, right...Giche said:@George_Soros said:
You're probably assuming I play survivor, which I rarely do. It's just silly when people want things too easy. Most of Vietfox's list is actually something crybaby killers have been asking for, which is quite ridiculous. Nothing wrong with DS, hatch, SC. SWF is tough for a killer but one can adjust.
And while insults are stupid and sad, trolling people who deserve it IS a lot of fun. It's also good for their character.Would be amazing and all... if it was remotely true.
It's not.
I always see the same scrubvivors (playing it or not doesn't matter, it became a mindset a long time ago) trolling here on a regular basis.
On EVERY thread.
No matter if it's a crying one or a well writed feedback.
You are all just here to troll, like on every DBD forum.
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Yeah i know, that's why i said "some". Just want those people to know how those ideas sound when combined, thanks for the feedbackGeorge_Soros said:
I may be too optimistic, but as far as I can tell, it's only a loud minority of crybabies among killers who keep pushing these. Surv mains too have a number of such ppl among them. I don't think most players are extremely whiny - it's just the ones who are spam forums full of their salty nonsense.Vietfox said:1 - remove the hatch2 - nerf ds, sc3 - nerf looping4 - make other killers as powerful as (or close to) the nurse.5 - make gens to take longer to repair (or gather pieces to repair them)6 - remove SWFDon't you see a big flaw if all of these ideas became real?I personally find it funny when someone asks for all this and yet makes fun of survivors by saying they want ez matches.PS: feel free to add more of these suggestions if you think they have been proposed often.Disclaimer: i've already said that swf needs a especial treatment and some small tweaks would be needed in the game.
Which gives us a great opportunity to troll them, and who would pass up such fun
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Here to bump it, i fell asleep @chemical_reject xD
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But you started 2 hours after release, thought you would get it.ZombieGenesis said:@Vietfox said:
Seriously mate, with all your smart talks judging new content in 2 hours... Do you know what is PTB for?
If devs think something needs to be buffed they will, or you rather have another freddy, pay for the dlc, get the cool features and then getting a nerf on what you paid for within the next 2 weeks?
Geez, some of you are really bitter complaining about everything.It's been 2 hours for going on 11 hours now...Do we ever get to at least hour 3 so some of our opinions can start being valid or will we just always be at that magical 2 hour mark you guys seem so like to much?
And you are no better than any other whining crybaby I've seen on this forum. You are one of a handful I truly wish I could block. All I've seen you do is complain and throw insults around. So...shrug Ignored!
If you think i complain maybe you should look to youself in the mirror, i mean, seriously...
Please, gather all the insults i've thrown around by checking on my comments and report them, i think you will find just one and it's the word "loser".
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You lobby dodge ready check spammers, yoy lobby dodge swf, you lobby dodge cause it's tuesday...Master said:I lobby dodge survivors who do that btw.
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Tag me every time you post this, please. I wanna know.fcc2014 said:It is official
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Mouse included? I'm dying xDbrokedownpalace said:When you hit the skill check you no longer break free from the killer's grasp but for the next 15/22/38 minutes the killer's controls and screen are inverted. -
Seriously mate, with all your smart talks judging new content in 2 hours... Do you know what is PTB for?ZombieGenesis said:Because she's FOR FUN not for competing! Oh...and MIND GAMES!
If devs think something needs to be buffed they will, or you rather have another freddy, pay for the dlc, get the cool features and then getting a nerf on what you paid for within the next 2 weeks?
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I'm not sure if it's op's opinion, troll post or what op read from other people.paramourn said:I hope this is just a troll post. I'm female, and I think the new killer looks amazing.
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If you read the tittle you can read the word "some".Global said:Survivors get mad when ever i bring up them review bombing and they each as survivor main i met has said "yea but i never review bombed the game" so going by your own logic please dont group every killer with what a few say or do
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Thank youNightmare247 said:I am a killer main and I already wrote earlier why some things you are asking don't need addressed.
Sure DS is annoying specifically if all four are running DS, but it is not so game breaking that it needs to be changed immediately.
SC is a viable perk that keeps survivors from doing generators, I would rather them heal then completely finish all 5 generators.
The hatch is a mess, but how about you either hit them and get the points and let them escape or just stand aside versus making it an issue. Sure a 4K is nice, but it is not required. You still get your points to pip, it is just late game and if everyone else escaped that can make it a pain in the butt.
All of the issues you have brought up are quality of life changes. The game is probably in the best shape and condition for both sides that it has been since launch.