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@PinkEricka said:
I really LOVE feng min and her new cosmetics but her long hair bothers me, it looks/moves like a wig. I still wear it though. Anyone else feel bothered by it?Why would I be bothered by her amazing beard and stiff as wood skirt?
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@MegaWaffle said:
Depends on how you play Doctor. i play either huge terror radius/sneaky in punishment or sniper Doc. I don't care if people don't scream I still giggle when I shock you so you're not as safe as you think either way.I hate that the forums automatically capitalize your words...I have proper typing skills dammit and I hit my own shift key!!!!
Hate having to constantly re-read everything simply to fix lowercase letters....
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Depends on how you play Doctor. i play either huge terror radius/sneaky in punishment or sniper Doc. I don't care if people don't scream I still giggle when I shock you so you're not as safe as you think either way.
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Current forums analysis
Sound: distant crying, whining and general sobbing.
Taste: salty with a light rotting undertone.
Smell: full of crap and general toxic vomit.
Appearance: still full of beautiful individuals like you
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@rafiksom said:
Why am I punished because being high rank ? Should I derank somehow after next reset ?They lack a proper ranking system (slowly working on fixing it i guess) and a large enough player base for each rank.
I believe, as I've said before, that rank should simply be removed.
New players should for "X amount of hours/matches" have some sort of system to match them with others in the same "X" category but after that its everyone in one big pool.
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@Skorpanio said:
I know that this doesn't count for all of us, but sometimes the community just goes over the line.
Take a step back and think about it, for example.
All of these changes always seem so negative to the community.
And it's not easy running a game when the community only says 'this is bad remove it!'
The exhaustion change may have been needed quite badly, and so they nerfed it.But why such a big nerf?
I think that they make a big nerf to show us how they would nerf it, and here we are to judge it.
Nothing says that it's gonna be kept forever, or maybe it will.As you sometimes say:
The community does sometimes know more than the devs.
Which might be true.
Sometimes.
But please, try and adaps for about 10-15 games.
And if that doesn't work, then you can complain.- Boi
Aside from the usual "the internet hates opinions they don't share" the forums and game have a severe lack of moderation.
If you are not stemming the flow of toxicity then it will continue to fester and rot. -
@samirk98 said:
i Really think dead hard is the most trash exhausting perk on high ranks... like people who uses dead hard are funny you can use it only once but then killers won’t fall for it unless you try to reach to windows or pallets
and after this nerf if became worse(IM ONLY WANT TO HEAR YOUR OPINIONS I DONT ASK FOR ANYTHING I DONT CARE EVEN IF devs NERF ALL THE SURVIVOR PERKS)
You can use it more than once if you play it smart. Yes you will only get the surprise factor the first time (unless the killer forgets) but you still have the option when close to a window/pallet to use it for A: a small amount more space or B: to push yourself to the other side of a pallet where the killer either has to ignore you because he knows you are getting your DH off or risk the hit. It also forces the killer to not lunge at you and adds a few seconds while he gets closer (nothing huge but can make a difference). So the perk isn't completely useless after the first use but you do need to play it smart.
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@AndyMXM said:
Sorry dbd but you're ruining the fun out of this game, you're nerfing survivors way too hard and I don't honestly care but I already have to wait a lot in the lobby ( as stated on player count only 14 000 playing where there used to be over 30 000 ) It's not even fun as a killer, my last 5 matches with hag were 4 man kills with 5 gen active at rank 8 ( a skilled killer is overkill especially if you can place traps midchase)
Not to mention the pain console players go through with the ######### optimisation, yet you re still charging full price and anythingLet me know when you make a game and we can all come and have fun playing it.
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@only1biggs said:
@thomasnut said:
I did report them and block them.. > @M4I3X said:Its not the devs task to show the players how to behave .. if you are streaming or just using the internet you need to accept that there are people that likes to insult other persons and if that hurts so you or your wife so bad then is the internet not the right place for you.
Its hard but you need to accept that and there is no way anyone can change that.
This is the dumbest response to a post i've ever seen in my life. It is not the dev's responsibility to show players how to behave. It is absolutely the responsibility of dev's to address harassment, inappropriate behavior, etc. which are direct violations of their tos. If it where not then there would be no reporting system in the first place or the option to report harassment. I also don't need to accept anything. I'm not going to comment on this reply any further cause it's just the stupidest thing i've ever read.
Why do you or your wife care what some random idiots think on the internet or in a game? Get a grip and get on with your life. It's just words. Move on.
Its not about caring what the other person is saying (although if you want to talk ######### to me that's one thing but bring my wife or child into the mix, that's another) but by not working to prevent this behavior in their game the Devs are allowing it to grow.
If you don't warn/punish people who go out of their way to spew hate and harassment you allow the behavior to rot and fester into an environment no one will enjoy.
So again its not about getting "hurt feelings" about what someone said but working towards a community we can all enjoy without that behavior.
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@thesuicidefox said:
@Shipthebread said:
@thesuicidefox said:
@Jesya said:
thesuicidefox said:@Shipthebread said:
@thesuicidefox said:
Just [BAD WORD] hit him. It's been going 4 hours because your ego is too big to take a 3k even if it's a 2 pip.
For the person streaming it's actually getting him views and donations and subs since people are sympathizing with his struggle. No one who isn't using it to their benefit should do this, if anything that survivor is dumb as hell.
Seriously 4 [BAD WORD] hour standoff means you have your head too far up your own ass. If he's milking people for money on top of that he's a scumbag as well. I have no sympathy for him.
I guess you must be a greedy offender on the wrong side of his blade.

seriously though you seem pretty mad over something that doesn’t affect you. You don’t have to watch.
Because it's mind boggling how greedy some people are. The fact he streams it and gets paid is even more abhorrent. Everyone in this thread is sympathizing for him when he can just hit the guy and still 2 pip. But oh no, because he is killer we should feel bad for him. I don't sorry. He came here looking for sympathy (and to promote his stream which is against forum rules IIRC), I'm all out.
Why do you watch people stream? I watch to see people do things I can't / won't do. So if he chose to do a stupid standoff, I laugh and support that nonsense.
Also dummy, he didn't promote his steam, he is Portuguese and fairly well know streamer, someone else posted it. He wouldn't self promote you knob
Still doesn't change the fact he is milking people for money by doing nothing on a stream for 4 hours. RIP OFF
Can't "milk" people who are choosing to watch this for 4 hours. They lose nothing by watching it and lose nothing by not watching it. By your logic everyone everywhere are being "milked".
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@thesuicidefox said:
Just [BAD WORD] hit him. It's been going 4 hours because your ego is too big to take a 3k even if it's a 2 pip.Could say the same to the survivor who waited 4 hours just to escape.
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@Tizzle said:
This is frustrating I'm sure but in no way shape or form is it taking the game hostage.There are several tools in the game to prevent this and your job as Killer is to find the Survivors.
If they are engaging in gameplay that doesn't go towards ending the game (not doing gens to escape/only hidding) that's taking a game hostage. Its just like if you have a Doctor who is sitting next to all 3 gens doing nothing but shocking people and never going for a hit, that too would be taking the game hostage.
If that survivor who was hiding at least attempted to get a little progress done on a gen then hide while sneaking to another, they are at least attempting to play the game meaning its not taking anything hostage. When the intent is to simply prolong the match with no benefit to yourself then you are forcing everyone to stay or forfeit the match, meaning taking the game hostage.
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@ILuvCampingRec said:
@Orion said:
@GolgiNea said:
@Orion said:
@GolgiNea said:
Yep, so both sides shouldnt be able to see eachother. Killers complain so much about survivors and act like their opinions mean more than survivor based opinions. I play both sides & I would much rather not see the little worms before trial lol.
Asymmetrical. As in, "non-symmetrical". What you want is symmetry in information, and information is power. Survivors should not be as powerful as the Killers. The lobby should stay as it is.
I want this game to be fun for both sides. Thats all.
Not allowing Killers to see items would effectively make Franklin's Demise either worthless or ubiquitous. Many Killer perks require the Killer to be able to see the Survivors and their items. It's that simple.
why do you think franklin is worthless then? as survivor you have to take sabotage vs trapper also based on luck, why should this here be different? i just see you crying every time someone talks about a equal gameplay. just because youre killer main.
Sabo can also break any killers hooks so its not useless. Its rare a survivor will go to a chest and pick an item up if they didn't bring one in making Franklin's useless. All the survivor perks have functionality aside from countering a killer allowing them to work regardless of who you get.
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@Vietfox said:
Orion said:@Vietfox said:
1- Dedicated servers. U know why.
2- Killers shouldn't be able to see us in the lobby and what items are we taking with us. Same way survivors can't see the killer.
Thx.
2 is not reasonable. Killers need the information in order to select their loadouts.
Then i want to know who is the killer so i can pick small game to counter the trapper or the hag
Then you would have 4 survivors just countering every killer every match. You can still run small game as its also effective vs Totems and if you're lucky killer too.
People seem to forget this was meant to be a horror game where you enter an unknown realm and fight together to survive. You are not to be spoon fed all the information you need so you can enter the match armed to the teeth and get your easy escapes.
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@Vietfox said:
1- Dedicated servers. U know why.
2- Killers shouldn't be able to see us in the lobby and what items are we taking with us. Same way survivors can't see the killer.
Thx.killer is stalking survivor. Its only right Killer gets to see what you 4 are bringing in so they can plan their perks accordingly. Its 1v4 Killer needs that little bit of information.
Honestly the only reason survivors complain about this is because of lobby dodging. If the power surge of SWF didn't exist, lobby dodging would be a relic of the past. Remember we are all trying to have fun. In most cases full SWF groups are not fun to go against. -
1- I'm pretty sure your aura is blocked but they will see the survivor healing you 100% yes.
2- No if someone rage quits/DC's it will not count towards your sole survivor. -
@Lordkazu said:
Bye ppl with this new update is too boring play survivor i hope u still enjoy this game, i played this game since beta but know i get tired of this game.Bye.
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@SenzuDuck said:
All the killer mains making stupid posts.
Now the survivors get to complain.
And the vicious cycle continues!
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@Vortexas said:
What is Exhution?Cut him some slack Vortexas, he plays survivor.
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@swenpai said:
Hey people,
What's your favorite map?
In both most fun to play in and how good looking the map is.
Mines the new one, Crotus Prenn Asylum, Father Campbell's Chapel.
It's such a great take on the old map, being colorful but still kind of creepy + zombie horse, what can you ask more?My favorite map for looks and enjoyment (aside from playing Nurse) is Lery's Treatment Theater.
I play a ton of Myers and he is the master of jump scare on that map.My least favorite map would be Rotten Fields. As killer 100% corn vision is just lazy design and boring gameplay. As survivor I say the same, 100% corn vision is just lazy design and boring gameplay.
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@Orion said:
@MegaWaffle said:
Hag traps that once triggered all move towards their target with EW3's power.That makes no sense.
You pop a hag trap, the apparition appears and then lunges at you rather then needing to be teleported too and its lunge has Myers Evil Within 3. What makes no sense? This was just for fun remember.
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As fun as this video was lets all remember how the full version ends....

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@feffrey said:
If you want easy wins play these killers for a easy winDoctor
Freddy
Wraith
Hill billy
Leatherface
Clown
These killers here take zero skill to use
Most players that use them just hold spam their abilityConsidering the internet is full of prove to disprove your point I'd still like to see evidence to support your claim.
If you are referring to lower ranks then yes anything works on lower ranks. If you are referring to all ranks then again please do provide evidence."Feelings are not facts."
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@Feyard said:
Maybe I'm just dumb, but: Is there any reason to use Padded Jaws?
I'd really like to know in which cases this add on shines, cause if my understanding is correct it's just a bad version of any common offering (50% more bp for all actions of a category), in addition it takes up an add on slot and actually weakens you (by not injuring the trapped victims).It is meant only as a BP farming method. It is not an add-on you bring into a match with the intent on killing. During Double Bloodpoint weekends it might be worth using as often you will get groups of people farming.
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Hag traps that once triggered all move towards their target with EW3's power.
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It is an improvement although anyone else feel like having everyone know when the obsession is being chased is just wrong. I play a ton of solo survivor and even I don't like that I can tell when they are being chased on the other side of the map.
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Sorry should have added a TLDR so here it is.
TLDR: Just read it dammit!
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@Countfunkular said:
Okay now here's the thing. For every 10 bad nurses I fight against on PlayStation 4 there's at least one God tier. And by that I mean there's no in between. So my question would have to be. How exactly this one played the nurse on PlayStation 4?The reason I'm saying this is because eventually I'm going to have to actually play the nurse. I've played every other killer and have them to level 50. Everyone else but the nurse which is now sitting at level 6 because that's back when I started playing the game in new from what I saw on PC that she was supposed to be the most powerful killer.
If anybody has any type of tips please let me know because I don't want to just only use the pocket watch with enduring on. It gets kind of stale but then again I suppose I wouldn't know.
Try your best not to be a smart-ass please.
Practice makes perfect!
A few tips I used to learn the Nurse was to not use any add-ons what so ever. You want to get use to her normal blink and not become depended on add-ons that are of limited quantity. Become more familiar with the default blink speed and distance and you will notice a huge improvement in your games.
I would also recommend getting "shadowborn" since you play on console. It by no means is needed but with the fps and slower controls console players have it goes a long way to helping.
Even when you are getting your butt handed to you STAY IN THE MATCH! If you come across a survivor who knows how to pull some mindgames on your Nurse blinks and you simply can't catch them do your best to keep trying. Forget the rest of the match, this survivor is now here to train you as you practice! Try your best to figure out what maneuvers the survivors is pulling that cause you trouble and try to adjust your style to catch them off guard. Soon you will be far less likely to be taken by surprise with their "silly" juke attempts.
Don't cry when you see Lery's treatment theater. This map is horrible for the Nurse because a ton of your blinks will simply get canceled out due to the sheer amount of object clutter. I'd suggest doing your best during the match and crying once its over. At least this way you might still get a few Bloodpoints.

When stalking/looking for survivors don't double blink everywhere. The fatigue time is much longer and the second blinks distance isn't worth it if you're not sure someone is there. Traveling by single blink (again unless in a chase) is still pretty fast and less fatigue means more time for your eyes to scan the screen and not the ground.
Get use to the new vertical blink mechanic. You can have a fully charged blink at the ready and a pesky survivor will run right towards you knowing you will blink far past them. However if you look downward you will decrease the distance traveled and can catch them off guard with a short blink using this method.
As you get better with Nurse you will start to notice how "lax" survivors become when they realize who they are facing. Since most Nurse players are not good on console most people relax and think "gg, too ez". Use their ignorance to your advantage. Maybe miss an attack on purpose so they think you suck and then surprise them when you crank it up to 11!
I too play on PS4 and spent a few weeks getting the hang of Nurse. Currently she is one of my favorite killers and aside from the damn hospital I can bring some true terror to a match.

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@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
I think if you’ve got Addons for the Doctor that make Survivors hear a fake heartbeat (Calm series+Iridescent King), then they either shouldn’t be notified or receive a fake alert when they’re affected by a Perk that causes penalties when within the Doctor’s TR. it completely nullifies the fake heartbeat.“Oh, I hear the hearttbeat, but I’m not suffering from Coulrophobia, so I’m all good.” See what I mean? It’s counter-intuitive. Add the layer of irony that one of Carter’s signature Perks is one of said TR Perks. I think it should be buffed.
Either remove TR Perk notifs when Calm/King is equipped or give them false ones when the fake heartbeat triggers.
I don't think perks should be shown to you at all.
Let me clarify: If you are using Unnerving presence I as a survivor shouldn't be given a huge icon saying "LOOK WHAT PERK YOUR AFFECTED BY" but instead should have to come to the conclusion through trial/error.
I also believe that if a survivor is using Boil Over the killer should not be notified by this icon either.
It doesn't make sense that everyone is imediatly notified of these things simply by being close to someone.
Also Lullaby should not show up as ruin does. Its ok that they show Ruin's icon because no other perk causes gens to act that way so its pretty easy to figure out whats causing it, but lullaby can't take you by surprise if on the first unaffected skill check it tells you they have it...As for the Doctor's fake terror radius it would be cool if it would also falsely trigger spine chill on occasion or proc premonition (don't induce the cooldown but the audio notification would be enough to startle some people).
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@Countfunkular said:
@Mrrgle_the_Mediocre
I won't lie I envisioned an old old concept.What I Envision is the teacher. Think about it if you go to the Wikipedia there are Files about her but for some reason the dead by daylight team never really acknowledged it. Even if she's fake I think it will be interesting to have a teacher as a killer.
Not to mention that it would be fun to have another alteration of that one school map that is just mostly School. Even if they remake the game into a school map that would be interesting
Ask for the powers. You might want to give me some time to figure that out.
She can have a similar power to Freddy's where she pulls you into another dimension. The difference is you are not in any danger here but cannot escape until you finish all the old assignments you never did in school. Coming from someone in their late 20's I think I might be in there awhile.
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@Techn0 said:
Well the next killer is a female if we follow the devs pattern. So I'm hoping for something spider-like or has something to do with mirrors. No clue why, I just think the devs could do something cool with mirrors.Maybe while being blinded by a flashlight her mirror like scales redirect the light back at the assailant!
I'm thinking some sort of feminine beauty who took the idea that "looks are everything" too far and in the process has mutilated her body in such a way as to become "perfect" yet in reality its just a true reflection of the fragile shallow nature of human kind. Some sort of creepy doll/human hybrid. -
@ItzSoulz said:
PLS Dedicated Server PLSThey already said they are looking to get some set up/tested. I'd imagine we still have some waiting to do but they are on the way.
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@IronWolf115 said:
Real quick here, does anybody feel that the killers natural FOV should be increased, rather than forcing you to use shadowborn?They announced increasing the natural FOV but said they need to fix Shadowborn first because during their tests it was causing you to see the insides of your shoulders on the edges of your screen.
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@pauloandrade22 said:
Unlike other killers stalling does not work on her.I undestand its too much to ask but you have to use mind games with her to win.
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You said "we", how many? I play solo and have been getting into games almost instantly. Played a few killer matches too and got several full SWF games. That might be the problem, if everyone is running SWF groups your queue will be longer. Play more solo.
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I feel bad for the Entity. He feeds on hope but all he gets is salt.

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@Fengminni said:
@MojoTheFabulous said:
If you buy a character with Shards or Auric Cells you only get their default outfit. Any extra cosmetics they may have are tied to the Chapter as a whole.The Devs should really get this info out there properly because far too many don't know about it and I only know about it due to people experiencing this.
Thanks for the reply, yeah I now got the bun, I had to buy the DLC
so I wasted all my shards for nothing when I bought Feng Min with them
. It really sucks that this info is not out there. I had been searching the whole internet to get info on the bun and how to get it because even on the dbd website there is no info on it, they really should include it in the character's bio how to get certain outfits.Perhaps see if you can appeal for a shard refund, seeing as you purchased the DLC and the Devs have not be clear in what comes with what when bought. Just be polite and appeal the situation.
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@TheXenoborg said:
Imagine signing up for a job where you start your days by getting bitten by snakes. It's part of the contract and you have to do it. And you absolutely hate this job but you knew what you were signing up for.Same goes to you actively readying up with SWF survs in your lobby. You signed up for it. You could have dodged but you didn't! While SWF is literal poison, it's wise to stay away from it.
The problem here is not every SWF could be considered a "cobra". I have had a few bites from some grass snakes and honestly I can bite harder.
Some of us Killers are sadistic in nature and a nibble here and there isn't so bad.
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@Khroalthemadbomber said:
Potentially the hardest is Hag. At least currently. Reason being all three of her perks have the potential of being removed leaving you a perkless killer vs an onslaught.Easiest probably Billy. Protection from pallet stuns, flashlights, and either a faster saw now or no terror radius for 12 seconds come next patch, he's got a lot going for him.
I'd put Hag right after Nurse (console) since it all depends on the map selection and how well the totems have spawned in. That being said she can easily have a nightmare of a match if the two above reasons are not in her favor.
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@MegMain98 said:
Going for the trophies/achievements for using the killers three unique perks are A LOT easier on some than others. I have gotten Adept Trapper, Wraith, Doctor, Shape, and Nightmare...all of which were not too difficult to accomplish. Who do you guys think are the easiest and hardest killers to get a 4K using only their three perks?I play on console so my two choices may vary from PC players but I would peg Nurse as the most difficult to adept on console and Hillbilly as the easiest.
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@AshleyWB said:
I think it's just showing the killer that I intend to have fun rather than teasing the killer. I often get tunnelled whenever I press crouch in succession. No flashlight or ds just trying to weird the killer out frequently gets misinterpreted as a toxic survivor.I think it depends on the situation at hand. With me if a survivor t-bags at a pallet it might have been simply trying to get my attention. If it continues like this I assume they are simply being toxic.
If a survivor t-bags when they are trapped in a corner or realizes they just got outplayed as I turn the corner I assume its "friendly". I also never find anyone shaking their head up and down or side to side to be toxic as i too as a killer will do it.
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@RotBb said:
Sadly, that title is true. Soon enough, killers will be gone and survivors won’t be able to get lobbies. The element of Survive With Friends throws off the dynamic of the game. Totem spots are awful. Looping is a skilless strategy that the killer can hardly beat. I was in a loop on Coldwind (the one with the fallen water tower, forgot the name) where I couldn’t even get my bloodlust up from how to loop was made. My ruin was destroyed one minute into the match, and my NOED was destroyed as soon as it spawned. The ranking is awful. I’m a rank ten killer, but because the group was Survive With Friends, the one rank twenty survivor in the group pulled the rank one three and four survivors were put into my lobby. SWF destroyes the fun the killer can have. Three or more SWF can be detrimental to what the killer can do. You need a certain perk set up just to secure ONE kill against a good group of SWF. I’m a good huntress, not the best, but good enough, I’ve gotten the adept achievement without even getting her to L50; but, that’s because I wasn’t going against SWF. Being put into a lobby with survivors way out of my league makes it nearly impossible to play. I need to camp to get a kill against a good group. I hate camping as a killer and survivor. It’s not fun for either side.
The game isn’t only bad on killer side. I have to play survivor to have fun now. I’m a P3 Feng with every perk and every adept achievement (for survivors). Playing with rank twenty survivors when I’m much better is annoying. The ranking system needs to be fixed. Rank One doesn’t mean much anymore. The way the ranking system should be is by Player Level + Ranking. A six devotion survivor shouldn’t be able to get into a lobby with a rank twenty level five player. It should be how it used to, where the survivors and killers could see the player’s ranking. A killer should not have to go against a rank one survivor if they’re not at least rank five.
Here is my list of things that need to happen:
•change the way players match up
•Fix totem spots
•allow the killer to see if the survivors are SWF
•Fix hitboxes
•Reduce Loops
•Remove the spin when survivors drop pallets
•Fix flashlight saves
- change the range required to get the save
- make the possibility to counter the save
• Show actual percentages
-Hindrance effect with huntress add-on
-Flashlight add-ons
-Medkit add-on
-Trapper trap add-ons
-Wraith add-ons
-Hag add-ons
-Bloodhound
-Shadowborn
-more that I can’t think of
•Rework “Surveillance”
-don’t make it only 16 seconds
•Buff Freddy
-Change the sleep transition to five seconds
-Make survivor’s repair/heal/sabo/exit speed 75% slower
-Increase power range
-Remove the movement speed reduction from the “Red Paintbrush”
-Make the “Black Box”’s obsession spawn away from other survivors (trump shrouds)
-Make a generator-like explosion sound when and where a survivor wakes up.
-Allow him to grab awake survivors out of the hatch
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Not sure what else from there, please add to it or share your opinion.Remember everyone "Feelings are not facts"!
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@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@MegaWaffle said:
Sad this thread died...I thought that last one was good.
The way these forums work any and all threads can be revived as long as they’re not drier than the Hag’s tits.
Then i guess its time we suckle on them and get these great pickup lines back into the public eye!
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I'm normally in my house when I play but I'm not sure what sort of wood my current floor sits upon...I'm guessing a "pine" platform.
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@Mr_Jay_Stark said:
Honestly it’s rare and random but I like when you can have a conversation (after the match) with either a fellow survivor (or a survivor you’re up against) and or killer and you guys joke around or give each other advice/compliments it’s nice! Especially on this forum some of the people are pretty cool and understanding of one another (emphasis on some)Honestly if you don't take everyones anger at face value most people just want the game to be fun. There are hugely different opinions on what that means to people but at the end of the day its just passion and frustration towards a game we all love.
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Sad this thread died...I thought that last one was good.

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@Lowbei said:
I like Dead by DaylightAfter reading so many posts I was worried I was the only one.

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@Detective_Jonathan said:
I mean, it has to happen at some point.It ends once you finish following John Crammers rules.
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I'd say Git Gud but I've also suffered from this...

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These two above me are the reason I can't watch adult films anymore. They just don't have the same effect.
