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I am all for making the game a better place but most things people consider toxic is not really toxic l. It just people take it too personally.
Thing like
Constantly clicking the flash light, tea nagging at pallet obviously these kind of think they can outbeat you so go for the challenge and take them out.
negative message, turn the post chat thing off or go in friend mode only. I don’t know if thins is possible on steam. -
That is why I said personally but I see where you are coming from especially if you have bbq to stack bloodpoints.Jack11803 said:@Iceman said:
Jack11803 said:@Iceman said:
Ashkiin said:
There's something wrong. Survivor mains will be survivor mains, they might try the spirit but they won't for long. Specially a killer that hard
I mostly play survivor but I haven’t gone back since the release of the spirit. I actually found a killer that I actually enjoy other than billy,clown, and now the wraith.
Almost every survivor I know would play killer if it means more points. And guess what? It does
Well personally I do not need to play killer for more points, I careless about that.
You're not everyone though.
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Well personally I do not need to play killer for more points, I careless about that.Jack11803 said:@Iceman said:
Ashkiin said:There's something wrong. Survivor mains will be survivor mains, they might try the spirit but they won't for long. Specially a killer that hard
I mostly play survivor but I haven’t gone back since the release of the spirit. I actually found a killer that I actually enjoy other than billy,clown, and now the wraith.
Almost every survivor I know would play killer if it means more points. And guess what? It does
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It’s hard to avoid bt now, for some reason it automatically hit the survivor that is coming off the hook. I normally would hit the saver but now it is a bit challengingMichiko said:
Its not long probably 2 seconds? I had to camp a Nea yesterday for herrassing me with a flashlight as Killer every damn chance she got. When her friends pulled her down I was able to smack her in like 1-2 seconds. Its only a problem when they have borrowed time but if you're able to get em, you'll get em.Darktronik said: -
I mostly play survivor but I haven’t gone back since the release of the spirit. I actually found a killer that I actually enjoy other than billy,clown, and now the wraith.Ashkiin said:There's something wrong. Survivor mains will be survivor mains, they might try the spirit but they won't for long. Specially a killer that hard -
At this point until they introduce her new cool down and other buff you have to know when to use her power and when not to. I have no problem playing with her.Dr_doom_j2 said:OGlilSPOOK20 said:
She's not a bad killer, just difficult. She's the hardest killer in the game. So don't call something you barely played bad... Learn her and I bet she would be a really good killer. I've already seen some killer player dominate with her getting back to back 4k. Choose the right perks and add-ons and she's God like.yeet said:lol spirit is just bad, period
I'm going to need an example that doesn't include her ultra rare add ons. So far i only got 1 4k, 2 3ks, 3 3 2ks, and a Ok. Maybe I'm missing something, but the trade offs her power afford just seem too weak.
I typically use her power when by a pallet if I see scratch marks I know they are running away but if I still see the same one they are still there or else tries to walk away quietly so I jump out of it.
And I have plenty more ways I like to use her power. I plan on giving my feedback later in the balance section
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DrozenB said:
I used to play during the first year since launch, quitted because survivors were dropping all the hooks (that didn't repair at all). During this time there were much more survivor players than killers.
Recently I downloaded the game again, played for a few weeks. It is obvious that the DLC killers are stronger than vanilla killers, anyone who plays a DLC killer (except hag) can kill at least two survivors without any ability whatsoever, now that they buffed the killer so much, there are much more killers than survivors (polar opposite of what was happening a few years ago). They still refuse to make progression faster to make the game more fun and usually don't release patches or new killers without a paywall. The same graphical and gameplay issues continued, little more elements were added and it is still a simple game. Hasn't changed much, they just completely shifted the meta to killers as people tend to pay more money to get them probably.Second time I'm uninstalling, probably the last. It was fun while it lasted, with a player-base dying so fast it won't endure another year.


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This belong in off topic
Anywho this is what happen when you don’t have a lot of creative people in Hollywood. They decide to remake the classics or any movie they feel will bring money
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@TrueLegend
killer have a more challenging objectives than survivors.
You have to slow down gens from being done
Hook a survivor 3x to get a sacrifice
complete a chase
vs
cleansing totems
doing gens
saving hooks
opening exit gates
run from killer if caught .... these are all easy task
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I guess to waste perk slot for people who like to grind for blood points.KingB said:Not asking for much, but why not roll WGLF and we'll make it into one perk? WGLF does nothing but give bonus blood points so why not give it a use? This would be a good and balanced perk rework. -
I actually like the spirit sound at first it was very odd but that’s with anything when you hear it for the first time. I remember people found the clown laughing annoying but we got over it and immune to it. They are both uniqueProfoundEnding said:Okay, I hated the Spirit's grunts as much as everyone else when she was first released but now they're kind of growing on me. Anyone else think the same? -
I disagree, if a gen is done after I hooked a survivor. I know if some one is near since their location is revealed to me. I caught people healing with this perk.Eninya said:It's a poor man's NOED/Devour Hope. I think it's a wasted slot, since it does next to nothing until the end of the game.
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I have a problem with trying to snatch the survivor who is going for the save. I will go into the animation as if I am about to snatch that but it turns it into a hit instead. Then the hooked survivor gets off. So I am not able to snatch any one but only once.
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I just hit P1 the goal is to get her to P3 this weekend. Also I want to P3 Adam.TheDarkLycan said:Anyone else have P3 spirit yet? Been farming with Freddy since last night, I get almost 210k a match -
Oh snap I forgot all about that 😂😂😂, well it is still fun in my opinion knowing that the killer can come after you toward the end of the game.BigBlackMori said:@Iceman said:
MegaWaffle said:@PigMainBigBrain said:
@projecteulogy said:
Not Sole Survivor.
I can't seem to find any counter to it. At all. With the exception of SS... And telling anyone to run this trash perk is like telling a Wraith or Mikey to run Distressing...(unless you're purely farming BP)
It took them how long for Calm Spirit to help counter The Doctor... but.. I'm sure I'm going to regret asking any type of questions regardless of my playtime. I feel like the dev is constantly kicking Solo players in the nads while doing nothing to SWF as both Killers and Solo players have mostly crappy games when paired against SWFs(the sandbagging etc)
The counter to rancor is to get the hell out...immediately. Don't dance around at the gates, don't go back looking for boxes, when the gates open leave. Counter it the same way you counter noED...LEAVE!
NOED can be broken and even if you are hooked you can be saved. Rancor cannot be broken, reveals everyone for 3 seconds and allows you to be moried instantly.
I never use obsession perks and for the most part some random player using D-strike will get it, but I have had games where I was never even seen until the VERY END of the game and instantly got moried because I randomly got selected for obsession. I do feel like it seems unfair if you become the obsession without having used any obsession perks.
I don't think the perk is over powered just a very anti-climatic/un-fun thing to have happen to you during a match. Something that can instantly kill you simply because the game chose you as obsession. Its different if you bought d-strike in and gambled with the possibility.
I find the perk to be fun trying to guess if the killer has this perk. Also wondering if it is worth saving the other survivor. This bring a great side to game far as horror.
You don't have to guess. You can see the Killer every time a gen is completed, and thus know for a fact he has it.
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@ItsTurboAlex
You can dodge her hatchets. And she can only carry up to one hatchet unless they bring an add on to have to more. The idea you have in mind you might as well just not use the add on if that is the case. -
I find the perk to be fun trying to guess if the killer has this perk. Also wondering if it is worth saving the other survivor. This bring a great side to game far as horror.MegaWaffle said:@PigMainBigBrain said:
@projecteulogy said:
Not Sole Survivor.I can't seem to find any counter to it. At all. With the exception of SS... And telling anyone to run this trash perk is like telling a Wraith or Mikey to run Distressing...(unless you're purely farming BP)
It took them how long for Calm Spirit to help counter The Doctor... but.. I'm sure I'm going to regret asking any type of questions regardless of my playtime. I feel like the dev is constantly kicking Solo players in the nads while doing nothing to SWF as both Killers and Solo players have mostly crappy games when paired against SWFs(the sandbagging etc)
The counter to rancor is to get the hell out...immediately. Don't dance around at the gates, don't go back looking for boxes, when the gates open leave. Counter it the same way you counter noED...LEAVE!
NOED can be broken and even if you are hooked you can be saved. Rancor cannot be broken, reveals everyone for 3 seconds and allows you to be moried instantly.
I never use obsession perks and for the most part some random player using D-strike will get it, but I have had games where I was never even seen until the VERY END of the game and instantly got moried because I randomly got selected for obsession. I do feel like it seems unfair if you become the obsession without having used any obsession perks.
I don't think the perk is over powered just a very anti-climatic/un-fun thing to have happen to you during a match. Something that can instantly kill you simply because the game chose you as obsession. Its different if you bought d-strike in and gambled with the possibility.
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I rarely counter any campers unless I am with a survivor with team and they are constantly taunting the killer. Either way it is not toxic to camp. It is only toxic when you receive rude message from a survivor or killer.MakoFenrir said:Maybe it's just on xbox, but why is rank 1-5 full of toxic kids? The amount of killers face camping is unreal, don't get me started on the prestige 3 Claudettes... I hoped the higher ranks would be better, these actions just makes me want to go back to rank 10+..
Also so far as prestige Claudette, yeah some people think they are invincible that is why I make sure I look really good when searching because her clothing is hard to detect. -
I had two survivors left in the game. And I found my obsession but he hasn’t been hooked the entire game. I was going to hook him but I dropped him after the other survivor finish last gen. He dc’d because I was going to mori him but I realized after the game that I didn’t use rancor it was dying light 😂😂😂. So I wouldn’t even be able to have mori him in the first place.Orion said:@Jack11803 said:
@Orion said:
@Jack11803 said:
@Orion said:
@Jack11803 said:
When you have no obsession perk but still got rancor.FEELSBADMAN
Bad RNG. Someone has to be the obsession.
When it’s 3 games in a row.
FEELSREALLYBADMAN
Play Killer. You can't be the obsession then.

Honestly, I’ve used this reasoning to play killer on PS4; in that, I can’t lose progress from a killer closing app like a ######### if I’m killer
On PC I had to deal with an Obsession who DC'd just as I was trying to use Rancor's Mori on his ass. It's such a cool animation, I dunno why Survivors DC.
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Most of my obsession died because they tried opening the exit gate. Wait til every killer have this perk 8-)
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Buff leather face
and leave Billy alone he can only move in one line unless he has add ons that will allow him to steer more smoothly. It is really fun playing against him. -
He does need a rework on his power. At the moment he is boring to play and boring to play against.DeathGripp said:freddy does not even need a buff. I main Freddy and I can tell you that I never lose a match. he's just really hard to use, harder to use then the nurse. I have to say that I enjoy playing him exactly the way he is very much. If he needs anything it would be making it harder for survivors to wake up. take away the wakeup on healing and self care skill checks. make it only gens and other awake survivors that can snap them out of it. and make the skill checks slightly less frequent and the wake up slightly longer. and change his difficulty to very hard instead of hard.. maybe sum other things buffed, maybe.. but when you get really good with Freddy and you know when to sleep them, chase them, hit them and hook them he is absolutely terrifying. and He is my absolute favorite killer. SO NO ON THE REWORK OF HIS POWER
When the exit gate is open and you have a survivor down there is nothing you can do when the survivor is hook. And you are not able to slug them because other survivors will heal.
And the rework they have in mind is really good. Freddy getting stronger as he put each survivor in a dream.
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@Judgement
I wouldn’t mind this idea, however I think it should cost a lot of auric cells. This will discourage people from using it as pay to win for people who will buy a lot. Also it would be nice to have boost to get extra shards.
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Here we go again with the millennials comment 🙄Dwight_Confusion said:I liked it to where if the killer closed the hatch... they survivor was F'd... unless they had a key or could do a gen to reopen it.
THey are terrified to upset the millennials on the hatch closing thing.
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@Nickenzie
ooh I definite like the idea of the scratch mark being brighter when phase walking. You should mention this in the balance feed back.
And I saw a post from Janick stating that she is getting a buff and he also mention that they are going to lower her cool down.
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Awesome, I love when a survivor is working on a gen and they don’t notice me until the bell and try to escape but can’t lolthekiller490490 said:
Buddy, the only thing that could get you banned like this is too many salty survivors complaining about the fact that you are playing wraith exactly the way you should.Iceman said:So I just started playing the wraith since his new rework and K actually enjoy playing him. I just have one question lol
There is a technique that I started to use with him, while cloak. I will body block a survivor at a palllet, door, or sometimes at a generator. This allows me to get a quicker hit than when I normally would after unlcoaking.
Are these bannable? Also is making the pallet unusable an exploit bug with the wraith?
@peanits
@not_queen
Any one else is free to answer this question
ThanksFrenziedRoach said:No, body blocking is allowed as long as you aren't pinning somebody in a dead-end then going afk.
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Those are no excuse to dcThisNotIt said:How can you expext people not to DC with all the trash in this game.
Frame rate dropping during skill checks.
Big ass bubble that takes up the whole screen when someone is hooked.
The spam from the doctor and hag.
Vaulting over an obstacle, both get hitting the ground and still getting hit.
Makes sense why people d/c a lot
1. Stop playing that game
2. It help prevent you from seeing the killer the same way if generators are done you will not see the survivors.
3. Those are killers who make the game a bit more challenging but could be annoying (not a valid reason to dc) sound like anyone who complain about this just don’t want to be stealthy or want an easy win
4. Vaulting, a killer can hit through a window. The window is not suppose to automatically protect you once you go through it
I had three people who dc the entire game, they didn’t want me to mori them. So funny because the last one who dc had done all generators and refused to escape. However soon as find him he dcHellDescent said: -
8. trying to eat while working on a genbrokedownpalace said:
What does this even mean?Dragonredking said:@Rootlo said:
If you blow up a gen then it should be too hot to touch for like 15 seconds forcing you to either wait or go and search for a different gen.As it is now, if you blow up a gen you only lose 4 seconds. Its not punishing enough, especially since most gens are by windows/pallets so even if the killer does come I can escape easily.
People are still failing skillchecks?
Jesus...
1. Constantly new players
2. Sometimes a loud noise (like a hook) will mask the sound
3. Not everybody blares their volume and stares at the screen without ever looking away
4. Perks and powers that make skill checks harder
5. Skill checks that pop up as you're letting go of the gen
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I haven’t played much survivor since the new release of the new killer lol. I like the concept of her a lot definitely can not wait to see the buff for her in mid patch.
On on the road to prestige 3
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His power is getting reworked.davidps4DBD said:I don't want him buffed. I want the devs to rework his power. He has so much potential, and is a classic killer.His power lowers so much of his point potential as well. Killers can outmatch him easily.Rework his power, make him fun! Don't buff a boring killer when you could fix a boring killer instead
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The forum was downPeasant said:Just checked my phone, looks like it has sorted itself out.
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Where in the forums did they say this?LRGamer said:
I forgot the Audio Cues but they already said that they’re going to buff herOrion said:All of those together would just turn her into the Wraith. What she needs depends on what the devs want to do with her.
Do they want her to be a mindgame Killer who uses (or pretends to use) her power mid-chase to trick Survivors? If so:
- Her ability needs to activate more quickly.
- She needs to move more quickly (115%).
Do they want her to be a stealth Killer who can interrupt Survivors? If so:
- Her power should not have any cues (audio, visual, or otherwise) except a medium-range (40m) audio cue to indicate that she has begun to use it.
Do they want her to be able to cut off Survivors through the use of her power during chases? If so:
- She needs to be able to see Survivors while she's using her power.
Right now I'm not sure what the devs want her to be able to do, but it seems to be some combination of the three. This simply won't do with her current kit.
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Would such ability be able to exist in this world?NoxiousOnnyyxx said:So you know how the hag has her trap where her decoy just pops up....What if survivors had a perk that was similar to that? If you PC players have ever played Dead Realm or watched vanoss and his crew play it, you kind of understand what I'm thinking of. Like all of a sudden you're running you hit the perk and the killer swings, but ends up swinging at the decoy instead of you. Idk just a late night thought. -
Ooh I like the way you are thinking, maybe every time missing a skill check you got like an injury bar and if it’s get full then you get injured (this only would affect if you are in the healthy state) so players can decide if they want to stay healthy or injured.Rootlo said:If you blow up a gen then it should be too hot to touch for like 15 seconds forcing you to either wait or go and search for a different gen.
As it is now, if you blow up a gen you only lose 4 seconds. Its not punishing enough, especially since most gens are by windows/pallets so even if the killer does come I can escape easily.
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A friend is throwing you a party and they order a cake for you from a cake decorator because they do not how to do the special design that they want for your party. However the day of the party the cake decorator says the cake is not ready. Do you blame your friend? In the end they were the one to throw the party.Grimbergoth said:This is a touchy subject in general , If you went to gamestop and preordered a game and then it gets delayed you wouldn't be mad at gamestop because they are just the retailer you would be mad at the sompany making the game . But this isn't the same thing its a DBD product being made by someone else . In other words they are using a contractor to make and ship their product , so in the end yes it is BHVR's job to make sure the product is completed and shipped on time and to explain why not if its not going to be . In the end its their product .
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Thank you for responding back.not_Queen said:@Iceman You can totally ask more questions!
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/11/communication-roadmap#latest
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Also I was wondering if I asked a question a while back and it didn’t get pick could I ask another one?
@Patricia
@not_Queen
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I am so confused I could have sworn a couple a months back I seen a lot of killers saying that there is no point of point blood lust 3. They would rather just see the devs fixed the map.HellDescent said:Bloodlust is gone
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Oh no I understand, I am not sure if they explained her reason in the stream but yeah it would be better off if there was a meaning behind it.1stVampire said:Please don't get me wrong. I really like her hairs!

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Just a wonderful animation that the dev team thought of. I find it to be very unique, one of my favorite things about her. They talk about the development process on their YouTube channel.1stVampire said:Good morning in the shadows!
Finally we can read the story of the Spirit. Pretty cool I think 8-)
But there is one question for me. Why do the hairs of the Spirit flying so crazy?
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Did you get both?TheDarkLycan said:The biggest joke is that it isn't even an exclusive, I bought Adam with shards and I have the same shirt -
Says who?Silas said:Black ripped jeans would've paired nice with that denim jacket. Or a black denim jacket with his blue jeans. We all know blue jeans and a blue denim jacket is a fashion no-no 🤷♀️
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Right, like if we are going to compete with everything?Orion said:@EqMonkVeeshan said:
Oh I am sorry. I guess my being a much much older gamer, I still feel connected to my youth in the fact I just do not want free wins in a game I want the challenge. bare with me as I get used to the Millennial entitlement to be a winner at everything, every time.The ageism, entitlement, and bitterness are real.
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I am not even going to talk about Freddy because he is getting a rework and the ideas that they have seem awesome.NextKillerSpongebob said:@Iceman said:
NextKillerSpongebob said:@PinkEricka said:
EqMonkVeeshan said:
@PinkEricka said: I’d like to take time to show to show my appreciation to this new patch and DLC, and to also show my gratitude to the devs since they don’t get much credit for their efforts! I’m really awed by the effort that is starting to come from BHVR. Thank you. This is truly amazing. I agree putting her in this way makes for very easy escapes props to BHVR for giving us survivors such a lacking killer to go against! I like how I put out a positive post and you have to litter it with a negative comment. Everyone has their own opinion on her. You think she’s terrible? Well good for you. I don’t care what you think nor did I ask you.
You’re ungrateful considering they made the arrangements to release this DLC on ALL platforms at the same time so none of us would be left out. They might be ######### at timing but you can tell they worked hard.
Actually releasing this DLC on all platforms at the same time isn't special. Just because they didn't get that last time doesn't make it something special. It is quite nice that they make a lot of dlc's but this killer is really low tier. Anyone except the survivor players think so because she is ez to go against. She is slightly different than Freddy, in a way that she is already so weak on release that survivors have nothing to cry about so she would get nerfed in the first 2 weeks.
Why would survivor players want to go against weak killers? You guys are so quick to say survivors want an easy game. There is no fun in always winning.
You guys? I also play survivor. I find it unfun to play vs weak killers since there's no scare-factor. Most of the survivor mains don't agree with that and are only satisfied with nerfs to killers and weak new killers. As you can see with Freddy and now The Spirit. I lean a bit more to the killer side but play a lot of survivor as well.
Far as the spirit she labeled as hard to play. Once she play her you will get a feel of her power. I have seen streams where the player will constantly use her power every time is available
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Why would survivor players want to go against weak killers? You guys are so quick to say survivors want an easy game. There is no fun in always winning.NextKillerSpongebob said:@PinkEricka said:
EqMonkVeeshan said:@PinkEricka said:
I’d like to take time to show to show my appreciation to this new patch and DLC, and to also show my gratitude to the devs since they don’t get much credit for their efforts!
I’m really awed by the effort that is starting to come from BHVR. Thank you. This is truly amazing.
I agree putting her in this way makes for very easy escapes props to BHVR for giving us survivors such a lacking killer to go against!
I like how I put out a positive post and you have to litter it with a negative comment. Everyone has their own opinion on her.
You think she’s terrible? Well good for you. I don’t care what you think nor did I ask you.
You’re ungrateful considering they made the arrangements to release this DLC on ALL platforms at the same time so none of us would be left out. They might be ######### at timing but you can tell they worked hard.
Actually releasing this DLC on all platforms at the same time isn't special. Just because they didn't get that last time doesn't make it something special. It is quite nice that they make a lot of dlc's but this killer is really low tier. Anyone except the survivor players think so because she is ez to go against. She is slightly different than Freddy, in a way that she is already so weak on release that survivors have nothing to cry about so she would get nerfed in the first 2 weeks.
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That’s a good thing, a skill as survivor should come from being able to juke a kille or 360. Not looping for such long period of time. I find a killer missing their hits more fun than anything.PinkEricka said:
I have to admit, we survivor mains had been getting favored for a good awhile now, and I started to realize that when the pallet vacuum was removed and the nerf of the exhausion perks. I guess they’re trying to make things right with Killer mains now but in the process of it all, the devs don’t realize they are, in a way, kind of nerfing us A little over the line by taking away a lot of obstacles.Usui said:@Delfador said:
@Orion said:
@PinkEricka said:
No misjudgement in the distance. Hook placements are just as messed up as totem placements.Screenshot it then, let me see the distance.
I have seen 3 hooks very very close to each other too. I mean, my word is not the law here but I also am killer sided as well. I wouldn't try to defend survivors for no reason.
The main building in the red forest was as much ######### as the barn was. The problem with that map though is that there are not many things to loop, juke the killer. They did a good job shutting it down but they should have added something for the survivors as well.
I'm not in here spewing lies I wouldn't say it if I haven't experienced it. I play everyday, i'm rank 1 every season I have over 2k hours in this game. I see this ALL THE TIME. I disagree, they completely gutted red forest, it's not even worth going to the mid house anymore you're guaranteed to get downed. It used to be about mind games, killer could go up and drop down on you etc to cut you off. Now that's just gone you have nowhere to go. Pretty good job so far.
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Did you play on the ptb? If not then I think you should form your own opinion after a few days of playing her. And even if you did play on the ptb it wouldn’t be accurate enough due to the fact that people was barely able to find a match.dannyfrog87 said:20 second cool down is a joke .... im sorry but her power makes her the weakest by far. and dont come giving me the crap of "mind games" in a chase she can barely catch up. great job on making the weakest killer their is by far minus freddy. probably only good thing about her is her perks ....
However I am not saying you are not entitled to your opinion, just stating the fact that it would be better when you actually given her a chance instead of going based off what others have said
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Some of these streamers I have watch and I find them annoying lol. I shall give the others a tryDelfador said:@Tsulan said:
Where is the list of the chosen streamers?https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19925/fog-whisperers-pilot#latest

