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@Judgement said:
Make her able to infect Survivors within TR for x seconds after Vile Purge, or while charging Vile Puge, perhaps? But don’t turn her into Doctor 2.0. She’s already Huntress 2.0.
That sounds much more balanced
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The hero we need but not the one we deserve
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This would be awesome, it would further enforce the aspect of The Plague, right now she is not infectious AT ALL, it takes too much effort to spread this ok debuff. But if you naturally slowly got infected through the TR and puking made it go up it would be like Doctor yes but it would also make her more of a plague killer.
If they keep the insta heal fountains though the Survivors would be cleansing and thereby healing all the time.
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Day 2 has also change my mind on her. Yesterday I was focusing too much on how she should be played i.e infecting everything. But today I focused on how she is played, getting close and puking to Break them, down them etc like you said. I didn't know you got points for puking on objects though, that's really cool and good for her Deviousness. I made a guide on how to play her effectively and hopefully that helps everyone get a grasp on what kind of Killer she is.
Honestly even after learning how she is played I am still disappointed that she doesn't play the way she was presented, instead she's like you a mix of Huntress but I also want to say Leatherface purely because that they can both get to a person charging their power and one hit down them.
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Playing Survivor is not as hard or stressful as playing Killer, I play both sides. If I want a relaxing game I play Survivor, if I have time for a dominating game that I can focus on I play Killer. Notice the words I chose for both sides, those are my honest feelings about both sides, I have more time to play Survivor because playing Killer requires more attention, thereby stressful to play Killer. You screw up as Survivor you have 1 or 2 more chances, you screw up as Killer which is very easy to do, you lose.
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Clown is anti-loop, Plague is for easy-ish downs, if you already own Clown I would say level up Plague for her perks. If you don't own Clown I would ask what play style sounds more fun?
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@AshleyWB said:
Did I mention for each generator repair complete, the obsessions field of view becomes slightly reduced too.
So it becomes sort of like an extreme stealth perk for hunting the Obsession, neither of you can hear the other, the Obsession gets smaller vision throughout the match and your Red Stain is harder to see. This is great towards the Obsession in particular, I can see this pairing with the new Dark Devotion giving them your TR and then everyone suddenly becomes just like the Obsession for 20 seconds.
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I think the first one is as good as it can get without it being too strong and becoming a totem. I do want this perk to have usage outside of the beginning of the match but then again this is the very first perk in what could possibly be in a new line of Start Game Perks in contrast to the End Game Perks we have so that's interesting if that's what they're going to do.
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Exactly, her power is basically an instadown so setting it up and keeping it around when needed you give yourself control. This is also the same way I play Freddy but instead of CI I use Sloppy Butcher.
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I think Ruin and CI together is quite powerful, they have 3 Gens they can't do and there's Ruin which slows it down a bit.
But I can see how closing off 3 Gens means that if you place traps around the 4 open Gens you're setting up your traps to get disarmed. And if you trap the Gens that are closed off you're wasting more time setting up an area on the opposite side of the map.
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I like the idea of the change but it doesn't really go with the name of the perk. The whole idea is that an individual of importance is slowly dying, things are getting worse and worse for them.
But I really like your idea by itself, it makes the Obsession and the Killer have an actual rivalry where they are equal to one another and those two are the most dangerous when pit together.
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Dark Devotion could work well on Freddy. If your Obsession is the only one in DW then you smack him and as he's running away people think he's being chased but you're actually on the other side of the map and SURPRISE, you're next #########! No TR means you won't be getting silly Survivors trying to hide and they'll be out in the open.
Freddy--Dark Devotion, Corrupt Intervention, Surveillance, Discordance
Dark Devotion on Pig means she can get to Gens stealthily with normal movement speed since she won't need to crouch.
Pig--Dark Devotion, Unnerving Presence, Surveillance, ''Free Perk Slot''
Has anyone tried Dark Devotion on Legion? How does this effect their FF and tracking?
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Complex, I really enjoy lots of room to create my own play style with the Killer but if they're too simple, like Clown, then it's just straightforward.
Trapper is a simple Killer BUT he is a strategic Killer that relies on route prediction and herding so he isn't as simple as Leatherface.
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I think the most accurate stance on her strength is that if you play her straightforward, in your face with Vomit and hit them when they're Broken, she's strong.
If you play her the way the game presents her with spreading the sickness to as many people, then she's weak. She can't be played well the way she should be played which is ridiculous.
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@feechima said:
Of all the farming done by teammates, Megs seem to take the cake. I don't encounter the ones that crouch, but walk to conserve SB. As soon as I'm off the hook they run away to leave me to the killer's tender mercy. Or, if the killer is near they are usually crouched behind a tree or rock, run up and get me off hook then don't take a hit and run away while I get slugged meters from the hook.
Yeah that sounds like Meg lol
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In a chase she is powerful, like Legion if The Plague wants you down you're going down in 1 hit.
Other than that she has no map pressure because it takes ages to spread the infection and by the time it gets to that point that Survivor has usually cleansed them self so it's not spreading, and it takes 5 seconds to cleanse.
So she can't spread the infection through Survivors, she can infect objects, for 15 seconds. Add-ons increase this time but you'd be better off using other add-ons which increase the rate of the infection.
So infecting objects is pointless unless you're in a chase, she can't spread the infection, the infection is too easy to cleanse and it heals them, outside of a chase on 1 person she has no pressure. Also since she has to go the extra mile to upgrade her power that means she's not good at loops which makes her like Clown who is good 1v1 but not 1vX and no map pressure.
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She looks like she should be able to juggle Survivors and burden them with the infection but she can't so her only real play style is in your face on one person until they're Broken. I'm not interested which disappoints me because I love this type of character but their core mechanics are not good enough for that standard.
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Well that's a damn shame, gonna be a teensy bit harder to track them down but at least we got scratch marks from their ''location''.
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I'm seeing more people defend her but the fact is this is all true, I'm actually tired of explaining it to people, they don't get it. I was REALLY excited for this Killer, I got here when Clown arrived on console so this was my Killer I actually got excited about and I am super disappointed with her. T
he Plague is amazing and I love the theme and mechanics but the execution is not right, why is her actual legitimate play style completely different than how she should be played? She should be infecting everything and spreading her debilitating disease and making Survivors sick and it be a nightmare. But she's just a faster Myers with a normal TR.
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I like your idea Nickenzie, you can vomit on multiple people and force them to go find a fountain and chase someone else. And because of the hidden Auras until fully sick you actually have time to chase someone and have your sickness actually do something. Making them Broken with your sickness is a bonus and getting that CP is just the topping on the cake.
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There's no way to keep everyone infected for very long, if you use your Vile Purge on someone and let them go, you just wasted your time.
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I can't believe everyone in this thread doesn't understand, Plague Has No Map Pressure.
You're Broken, so what? Yeah the Killer got an instadown IF SHE CATCHES YOU, you Red Rank looper champion. But you got a Gen done because you didn't care about being sick and because you didn't instaheal yourself at a fountain she can't get her upgrade.
She can't infect multiple people for very long at all, infect 3 people at 1 Gen and chase 1 of them, the other 2 find fountains instantly and heal then go back to the Gen while you waste time chasing. Or maybe they don't heal themselves and just do the Gen, ''so what I'm injured, I've faced Legion I know what to do''.
The only real strength she has is if she has Corrupted Purge and is guarding her hook, she'll hurt everyone trying to save with her vomit. Yes there are other scenarios but it's dependent on if Survivors feel like they need to cleanse themselves which they don't need to or want to.
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Having the Corrupt Purge an instadown would definitely help her out in making her feel more powerful. I don't like that her VP doesn't really do anything and spreading it isn't efficient or worthwhile. It has no real negative effect on them, being Broken is fine because the fountains are everywhere and you don't even need to use one.
Giving VP an actual sickness that gives negative effects to them is what I thought it would do, it should do that, it should give them a punishment for not cleansing themselves and make cleansing longer. One Jigsaw box is longer than a fountain I think.
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Thought of this
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I think she's used to holding her hand up for a high five and always left hanging because no one's tall enough to give her one, she's always waiting.
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Everyone else has already said what I wanted to say so I'll talk about your rework lol
I like the idea of using his power in the Dream World to actually manipulate the map, that's a Dream Demon power, to literally manipulate their dreams and that's what Freddy does, he is the master of their nightmare.
That said I think the effects of blocking windows should be smaller than Bamboozle so that having the perk is still better than his power and he can still use it. Blocking only 1 Gen at a time is awesome, 80 seconds might be too high since he can do it multiple times in the match while the Perk is 2 minutes at only the start. I think it should be 15-20 seconds so that he can only use it in a chase. But I don't think he should break pallets with his power, there's no way to make the Perk Spirit Fury better than his power so I don't think it should be a thing.
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I was definitely surprised with the buff they made, I get that it's a Jack of All Trades perk when it comes to action speed but the Gen requirement makes it crap. You're only marginally better at everything that doesn't matter at the end of the game, when none of those things matter. All the Gens are done but you can Vault worse than Bamboozle and break pallets worse than Brutal Strength, definitely going to help with stopping those Survivors at the Exit...
It needs a new effect or take off the Gen requirement. Any suggestions for new effects?
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@Master said:
Mhm, true her perks are not that bad.
Has anyone an idea what the obession terror radius changing perk has effects on tier 3. Tier 1 was 20 secs, what about tier 3?
So Tier 3 it has a cooldown of 30 seconds, that's it. The 20 seconds of no TR is always 20, feels bad.
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Yes it needs to be longer, I was hoping the 20 would go to 30 at Tier 3 but nope. All the awesome plays of stealth are out the window, but all the plays for Unnerving, Coulro, Distressing and such is good.
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I haven't been able to play as her but it doesn't look like it would be bad with a controller, of course you can't aim that percisely like you can with a mouse but me personally I can't aim for ######### on anything, console or otherwise.
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I can get Survivor lobbies but not Killer
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The hitbox needs to be smaller but I love it, I lured the Killer down into the tomb and jumped out lol it was awesome. But yeah the hitbox needs to be smaller, really excited to see this in the main game, I love Basement builds <3 and now I know there's a real counter me sticking em down there.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
Does anyone in their right mind even use no mither?
I haven't unlocked it yet but I really want to play No Mither with Object of Obsession, also I love playing No Mither and find out that the Killer has Thana, it's so funny because I know I'm a burden XD
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It's better than having a powerful Killer then get them nerfed because the babies cry about it. If the Killer is weak in the PTB but the babies cry it's OP the Devs know they're being trolls and need to get diaper changed with sandpaper.
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@NoodleLegs said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/351505#Comment_351505
"You become obsessed with one Survivor. Hitting the Obsession with your basic attack causes the Obsession to emit a Terror Radius of 32 metres for 20 seconds. During that time, your Terror Radius is reduced to 0 metres.
This effect can only be triggered once every 60/45/30 seconds. The Obsession hears the Terror Radius they emit for the duration."
Well that's a disappointment, I was hoping for 30 seconds, I don't know if 20 is going to be long enough.
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She's like Myers, just vomit during the chase until their Broken then instadown, she'll never need o use her basic attack until the end of the chase. Cleansing is really short but I also think it shouldn't heal, it just takes away healing points from other Survivors, especially the new Survivor.
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Any word on Dark Devotion? Tier 1 is 20 so I'm guessing tier 3 is 30
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I think she's awesome, she's kind of like Myers, you can bombard with VP the whole chase until they're Broken then instadown them.
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I can agree that the closing line of sight from being sick is a lot but I think that's ok. On console this won't be a problem because we got sticks instead of the mouse.
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This should be moved to the PTB feedback zone. Not sure which Mod to @, anyway I've seen LOTS of new Killers not even know about the point drain so an indicator of any kind would help.
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EDIT---Playing her the way she has been presented makes her 9, she's powerful but not entertaining enough. Also she doesn't play the way she should be played and that disappoints me. I do hope they tweak her because this Plague does NOT play like a plague character.
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@Boss said:
I'm not even mad that the weak bonus is still there.
It's useless and i wish it were made better or just removed, but it's not a burden.
But whether it was intentional or not, the patchnotes hinted so hard at it.
I feel so trolled! 😆
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I would really enjoy this, I would be fighting to loot chests as Killer now too XD
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I immediately thought of you when I saw this lol
Are we sure it's still 10 seconds? The Devour Hope we have now has the 5% after 2 tokens as well right?
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Head On, Saboteur, D-Strike, Adrenaline---can't catch me ;)
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@Peasant said:
With this perk, Hag, Huntress, Spirit, and Legion can finally become 115% killers.
I can see Spirit smiling and running like normal Killers while the ''Singing In The Rain'' song plays.
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It could be pretty brutal, the Survivor kneels on the grass, out of breath and jerks their attention up to see The Plague stand before them. The Plague squints with rage ans screams and she violently swings her censor and smashes it onto the head of the only Survivor. The Survivor screams in pain but The Plague continues swinging and repeatedly smashes her ceremonial tool onto his skull until he lies on the grass that's now saturated in his blood. The Entity claims another twitching victim.
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@JoyfulLeader said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/347494#Comment_347494
I don't have this phobia: But maybe a killer based on Trypophobia, (Don't look this phobia up on images)
No, then I'll be making a post like this lol no thank you.
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Sounds like you need help playing Trapper, would you like some advice?
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This further influences Survivors to cleanse dull totems and that will stop the crybabies from complaining about NOED, especially since you can bring NOED back and whose fault is that?
This should happen yes, completely fixes the problem.
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Rainbow Meg--troll
Ace---jackass
90's Jake---loser git gud
P3 Claudette--I love a challenge
Quinten---mediocre
Zebra Pants Nea/Pink Hair Nea---your pants are disgusting/wannabe troll
Other than them I have no opinions based off appearance.