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@Boss said:
Now hey, i've only been playing Wraith lately and i never camp.HEATHEN !!!!!!
Get with the Wraith regimen and camp. 🤦♂️
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Just wow, that is some serious talent there
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I try and not play my P3 Claudette unless I'm the only 1, I don't bring an item if I see one of that type in game. If I see 2 items i don't ring an item.
That's so the killer doesn't dodge the lobby and also so the killer doesn't just tunnel me because i want to bring an item to earn bp faster.
I keep my profile private and get dodged all the time but I don't do it for killers but because I'm tired of dealing with trolls since Steam came out.
Besides killers checking profiles just to see how good you are is stupid since why play killer at that point. It's as bad as survivors doing it to killers to see if they want to lobby dodge or dc.
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@grtf47 said:
Yes this needs to be done. If all you pussy killers that can’t verse a swf with toolboxes or flashlights have a problem git guud and don’t say I don’t want to deal with this or that blablabla. I don’t want to deal with mori but I still do and don’t dodge lobbies because you suckAnd still for some reason survivors always magically cant connect to my game when I use a hidden offering.
And ingame it happened quite regularly that I 4ked but since everyone DCed during the mori, I didnt get the daily
Is the 1st issue on console?
The later I absolutely hate and still haven't gotten my Myers done because it's always 1 person hiding by hatch and or dcing the moment i get number 2 or 3 done.
If you're in permanent Evil Within III and have met the conditions either everyone hooked and have Ebony Mori or Tuft and tombstone and they quit it should auto count towards the achievement.
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Yeah sadly the derank and screw your team mates over seems to be one of the biggest reasons now. At high ranks it's to screw the killer over, at lower ranks it's the former 2 reasons the most.
Although at low ranks those 2 reasons get added into a big middle finger as well to the killer so it's the holy trinity of screw you all.
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@HellDescent said:
Seriously why play the game if you only get 8-10k bp in the end and 1 hook if you are lucky?Yeah since rework there were a few then it was holy camping Wraiths and all either full P3 or Legacy and now it's rare not to face a non camping Wraith.
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Those are all real well done.
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The Pig when 1st playing is very annoying to go up again, but once you get more experience under your belt so to speak you play better against her.
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Most rank 1 killers use it and depending on rng, how good the killer and other survivors are it can last the whole trial.
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@Orion said:
Indeed. Behaviour needs to follow Blizzard's way of balancing talents in Heroes of the Storm:
- If something is used a lot, find out why it's used a lot.
- If it's used a lot because the other options are crap, buff the other options.
- If it's used a lot because it's broken, nerf the main use it has so it's more in line with the other options.
Self Care falls under the second reason - it's used a lot because infinite, self-sustaining heals without any drawbacks make hits irrelevant. Therefore, the self-heal aspect of it must be nerfed.
Heroes of The storm is a bas comparison since you've got 2 teams of 5 on 5 with vastly different abilities that can not only damage each other. They also have AOE effects and can damage terrain.
Buffing other options seems to be a no go with quite a few killer mains on here if both past and current history is any indication.
Just look at the outcry when Calm Spirit got buffed or whenever anyone talks about changing No Mither or any other survivor perks that not meta.
You get the typical catcalls and whines about all you want is something more op, survivors are already broken/op etc etc etc.
I've suggested changes to other perks to break them into being viable and I get the above almost always. However if I suggest a buff to killer perks it's a whole new ballgame, then if the buff isn't op enough i'm just trolling or not being serious.
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@MhhBurgers said:
I noticed quite a few survivor trolls on this forum, will just ignore them from now on. Can't argue with ppl who think selfcare is balanced, a perk that gets 98% use, might as well make that ######### baseline.
SC is already getting a nerf but that's not even what this thread is about, there's plenty of other threads talking about it.
So if a perk gets 98% use it should be baseline well does that mean DS/SB etc get to be baseline then? Are you killer mains ok with that since you already complain about that stuff being used?
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@dogepoop said:
Are you new here ? Swf was implemented because of the survior cries. The fck am i trying you dont have a brain to think for your own. Your answer gave you up on that. So here's another 1 in caps SWF WAS NOT MEANT TO BE A PART OF THE GAME AND THAT'S WHY ITS UNBALANCED.
Offtopic, got a comment from a swf "+rep thx for not camping the hooks but not for camping the gens" They only got 1 gen done. Fcking braindead. Now i give the surviors the game they want i just stay in game with insidious and watch netflix.
No swf was implemented because killers complained about super long wait times because people would lobby dodge repeatedly until they got queued up together.
So to solve the issue of that happening they introduced SWF to avoid people simply dodging until they got matched up with friends.
It would appear that i'm most definitely not new here and that tidbit about lobbies comes from some of the killer mains who've been here since day one.
There's literally 100 hundred + comments on it all over the forums and been some recent ones within the last day or 2.
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@PigNRun said:
MhhBurgers said:Once survivors catch on about her glimmering when she uses her power she will be #########.
Didnt they remove that in the last hotfix?
Or was it something they intended to change?
I think they did because after the post about it I paid really close attention and she doesn't shimmer. Well at least she didn't when she was 5 feet from me while I was hooked.
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@ZombieGenesis I do agree to an extent and it's unfortunate that so much gts lost due to ahem disagreements in delivery shall we say. 😁
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@Tsulan said:
I think you went a little overboard with this...
SWF is a problem. Everyone knows this, but the devs struggle to find a way to balance this without making the game unplayable for solo players.
My proposal still is, that they introduce ingame voice chat like most other competitive multiplayer games have and then balance around it. Remove all the stupid indicators that ruin or noed exist (just like it was a little over a year ago). Then buff killers until they are all more or less on Billys power lvl.Oh and forcing someone to play against swf would be the best way to get rid of our entire killer community.
Oh I know i went overboard but I wanted to get the points across since some people just want to be ahem more stubborn than normal for this forum.
The solo is getting buffed to swf to make it on par with swf so then killers can be buffed.
Voice chat in game is a bad idea given all the lag issues due to p2p. Besides why use in game when you can use Steam or Discord, Mumble, Ventrilo etc.Ruin i've actually got an idea on how to make it actually worthwhile but not as a Hex perk but as a regular perk with time based effects.
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@Orion said:
Why did you trust the guy who's trying to kill you?The Entity said he had free stuff, he didn't mention it involved being sacrificed on an uncleaned hook.
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@ZombieGenesis said:
@Orion said:
That's why I ignore him. I recommend you do the same.I do. At least as much as I can. It's just difficult when you have to scrub through pages of his garbage to find points worth reading.
The 3 of you just proved my point I made earlier that you won't call out the bs some killer mains spew then turn around and say it's survivor sided. You can say what you want about Senz but he has a point about what he said.
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I finally remembered to take a screenie of it.
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@Dabrownman1812 said:
Most survivor mains don't understand the advantage it gives. It can't be that much of an advantage etc. Voice breaks the game, even when I play swf I don't read loadout, I play as if I was with randoms and tell my homies not to teabag unless they camp. It's a pretty unfair game breaking edge when survivors know what they are doing and are competent. Most survivor mains don't get to rank 8 killer and lower to see the difference in high rank swf and low rank swf. Pretty much facing ed, edd, and eddy or you're facing the expendables lol.
Actually most survivor do understand and most streamers also aren't jerks like a certain PS4 douchebag. But what we can't understand the lengths some killer mains go to blame swf for their poor game play.
This forum is littered with posts claiming it's 4 man swf with 4 ds/sb etc when that's not even remotely close to the truth.
It's hard to take a lot of killer mains seriously when they blame everything that happens on swf, voice, ds, and whatever other excuse they want to use.
We all can agree that swf makes it more difficult and the devs are slowly changing things to make solo on equal footing so killers can be brought to that level.
But looking at the posters here that's never gonna be enough and it's why people use the you want 4k every match and everyone on hook.
When you killer mains sometimes won't even call out your own side for such blatant bs and even defend them when you know it's bs you're just as guilty as they are. You also basically say to everyone that hey we want 4k every match and easy games.
It doesn't matter what the truth is the perception that you're all just a bunch of whiny spoiled entitled children comes through loud and clear. Throw in the usual insults you direct or let get directed unchallenged and you're just as guilty.
The post game screen is getting changed so killer perks can't be seen and as far as voice they could take that out and you'd still whine. You've obviously forgotten Steam chat and speech to text messaging haven't you.
If you think for one instant those people in the dream aren't going to communicate somehow you're mistaken and it's hilarious you quote the devs when you're all so busy bashing them using the same logic.
I've said it before I'm hoping they create a non swf queue and then you have to choose which one you want to play against as killer. Once you choose however YOU'RE STUCK WITH IT, meaning you can't ever leave that solo q no matter what.
Don't like long lobby wait times well tough cow patties, you got what you wanted and now you're stuck with it unless you buy another copy of the game. Because if there's only 30% of the player base that does solo q then you lot have to divy up that 30%.
The nice thing is killers that choose to stay won't be lobby dodging because they won't care, they'll get super fast lobbies. The survivors won't get lobby dodged anymore because they won't have to deal with it anymore.
Lastly this last parts would have to be once they buff killers up to swf level of course but then you'd have to come up with something new to complain about.
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@AlexAnarchy said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@MhhBurgers said:
So tell me who the [BAD WORD] would be able to play her if you cannot see survivors, you cannot track them (and don't tell me you are able to land a hit on them with how bad even with predator scratchmarks are unless they run into stuff like windows/pallets) and on top of that you'Re also slower than them ROFL. When I think the devs have bad Ideas I listen to crap like this.Go and watch some twitch streams kiddo, you'll see plenty of people using her.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/315353140?t=58m17s
Heres a video of me 4King against a rank three, two rank 5s and a rank 9.
2 Dstrikes & an insta heal btw, probably SWF but who cares.
and yes, im not a rank 1 killer (because i play more games now) but hey, swf is unbeatable, right?Yes cuz no one has ever seen new killers do great for the first month of release while everyone is getting used too them still right? I forget we apperantly rank killers by ther first day~
Yet you same killers say spirit was trash tier and when she 4ks it's because she's new or because the survivors were trash/noob.
It's funny how you ignore all the ppl that play both sides and play her and against her and think she's in a good spot but needs sme small qol buffs.
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@MhhBurgers said:
The survivor circlejerk here is ridiculous it's as bad as the steamforums but it's to be expected when ppl get coddled for years, what I propose would make the game not only better but challenging, lowranksurvivors would have to get good and the killrates would probably be more around 3k/match which is also more fun for survivors than just escaping.The circlejerk of changing responses where you say several different things that contradict each other in different threads.
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@yeet said:
What indications? There isn't any as of now that always tell I believe, could be wrong. I think her masking still needs work right? And her noise is too loud
white spots appear on the husk when she enters the haunting, letting the survivor know when she is doing it
along with the loud noise she makes indicating her position, her power is effectively a short speed boost that makes her blind on a significant cool down (less so now after the patch)Yeah the White spots need to disappear for when she's close enough to see her since that kinda hurts her some. But doing the charge when you know someones close and standing still is funny as heck.
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Thrill of The hunt along with Haunted Ground is pretty evil especially when you play it on a Myers with Play With Your Food and Spirit Fury.
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@MhhBurgers said:
BBQ has a downside, just hide, nurses has a downside just don't heal in TR, Enduring saves you like what...1 sec on a pallet? softcounters a broken perk like DS?
And don't give me the spirit fury+enduring combo BS, that's ONLY a free hit if there isn't another window/pallet nearby, you still gain about 20 metres of distance.
Gen at an angle, can't hide behind it, someone gets downed while you're running to next gen and don't make it well you can't hide behind it.
Also gens don't always block your aura cough all male characters cough.
Don't heal in TR, yeah Stridor, Blood Hound, tunneling, scratch marks killer follows oh and your loud grunts of pain.
Do you have an excuse for everything that you can't seem to be able to do like most killers can?
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@MhhBurgers said:
Bloodhound doesn't help you track down injured survivors, same goes for NC (unless the surv is stupid and heals in your terror radius) and sloppy butcher, they only help you track mid chase in which case I ask you why the [BAD WORD] you don't use geforce experience instead to highlight blood anyways
When I feel like it I turn the game so bright that there's no way to lose survivors in the first place.
Did you really just type that, now I know for a fact you're just trolling.
Bloodhound - Like a hunting scent hound, you smell traces of blood at a great distance. Fresh Blood Stains are considerably more discernible than normal and can be tracked for 2/3/4 seconds longer than normal.
Hmmn looks like an injured survivor dripping blood is something this perks does indeed help you with since an injured survivor cna be tracked down.
@DarkWo1f997 said:
The toxicity. Why has it raided my post?
Look at my response to what he posted and you'll see that person is just plain trolling for flame now.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@MhhBurgers said:
nobody cares about your little circlejerk, not powerbats not your 10 viewers.Survivors are overpowered which is just a fact stated by most good killer mains, what you say doesn't matter, ppl like Truetalent, Hybridpanda and Marth88 will all agree on this.
Third party software, rofl. It's called SETTINGS, maybe you should try them out.
HybridPandas actually a good friend of mine, I'll ask him next time I chat with him.
Also Marth88 is the same guy that got a 100+ win streak in death garden and called it balanced.
He also got a 100+ winstreak with his depip squad yet you don't call that unbalanced.
Oh and like any guy who puts thousands of hours into this game runs the killer around for at least 2 minutes before going down, do you call that balanced?
Yes because going up against baby killers in in some matches full P3 Claudette outfits with each person having over 3k hours or so played is a balanced test.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@powerbats said:
@MhhBurgers said:
So where's the downside to selfcare? Oh wait, only killers need to have downsides in a game that is pitted against them. Gotcha
Oh not this whine fest rant excuse again there's several counters that killers arealdy do.
Tunneling
Camping
Nurses Calling
Thanatobia
Sloppy Butcher
Stridor
Bloodhound
Oh and last but not least killers that pay attention to what's going on around them so they can get those survivors trying to use said Self Care.
ROFL calling bloodhound stridor and thana counters to selfcare. Also nurses calling only works against survivors who heal inside the terror radius, what's next? Coulrophobia?
They all help you track down said injured survivor so they can't use SC or is it only smart killers that don't rage quit maps they don't like that know this?
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@Mister_xD said:
okay, i do understand that.
but dont forget, that the killer lost a lot of possible BP too, so... he got a little punishment? maybe?That's true to an extent but if they get a fast match and then reque and do it again they more than make up for it.
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The changes I'd like to see is there's no icon on hud until you actually get downed and hooked. Then once unhooked it's now on the Hud you're running it.
You also shouldn't be running around crouched over in pain until you get unhooked as above then you're obvious.
The sounds should be quieter and recovery time wouldn't stack with anything else either if it was increased.
You'd also bleed out faster the more times you get downed.
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@Mister_xD said:
post written: Spetember 22nd 2018.
Facecamping doesnt exist, mate. it got fixed almost half a year ago.
Yes, Facecamping was a cheap exploid, so it got removed. On the other side, when survivors find a similar thing, its called a "feature"... hmmm...Facecamping still exists, just not in the format it was before now that swivels unhooks are a thing. But killers do still stand right in someones face and camp or turn around and butt camp.
They've even resorted to an exploit where they force their character model inside the hooked survivor preventing any unhooks whatsoever.
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@Mister_xD said:
@powerbats said:
@Mister_xD said:
you still farmed a ton of BP, didnt you?
so why are you mad? instead of winning with 17k in a normal round, you lost with 17k+ in a fake-farm round...
its all about the points, bro.You're assuming they got 17k though, some let you do 1 gen or so then just mow everyone down with a an insta down.
honestly, thats not what i understand under "farming"... usually the killer will farm his BP, until he's full and then kill the survivors, so the survivors made a ton of pooints during that too.
It really depends, when the killers lets everyone farm to pretty much max i'll let them sac me by standing under a hook and or crouching under it.
While there's a few others I know by name and playstyle that will pretend to let you farm then massacre you all and then say ez etc post game.
Then killers wonder why survivors are toxic to them or that they don't like to take chances on farming. It's all because some jerkwad wants to act all cool like it took skill to troll people.
The same as they act like it takes skill to repeatedly smack a survivor or last survivor on hook. ut then when they go up against good players it's a whole different ball game.
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@MhhBurgers said:
So where's the downside to selfcare? Oh wait, only killers need to have downsides in a game that is pitted against them. Gotcha
Oh not this whine fest rant excuse again there's several counters that killers arealdy do.
Tunneling
Camping
Nurses Calling
Thanatobia
Sloppy Butcher
Stridor
Bloodhound
Oh and last but not least killers that pay attention to what's going on around them so they can get those survivors trying to use said Self Care.
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@Mister_xD said:
you still farmed a ton of BP, didnt you?
so why are you mad? instead of winning with 17k in a normal round, you lost with 17k+ in a fake-farm round...
its all about the points, bro.You're assuming they got 17k though, some let you do 1 gen or so then just mow everyone down with a an insta down.
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@TheDarkLycan said:
WhateverIGuess said:DS needs to go, along with NOED. Both reward bad gameplay, both are insane crutches.
inb4 zomg what r u sayin!!!11! noed is a hex totum it be completely balanced111!!1!!!
Deliverance needs to go too along with adrenaline and every other survivor perk except Hope
Translation all survivors need to start injured and close to a hook while all killer have 300% move speed and once on hook it's auto sacrifice.
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@CodyJia said:
PinkEricka said:I guess I’m just not that attentive at all because I’ve been playing this game for 11 months and not once have I heard of or seen a golden toolbox...
The one in Haddonfield is so obvious! Are you sure you haven't seen one?
Yeah by the literal real life jungle gym underneath the picnic table.
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@Boss said:
@MrChubChub said:
begging for hillbilly buffs when he doesn't need them, nuff saidI said to not be serious, but wow, you went all out and became straight up silly. Nice!
Things that make you go hmmmn.
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@dogepoop said:
######### are you talking about. Survivors cant use memento mori.
SWF is an exploit meant for low skill players that cant win without having a huge advantage
Just DC if they are organised, let them have their "win" :'DTrue but there was an exploit on console that allowed survivors to put a killer offering in that changed who the killer played as.
Typical no skill killer response, I mean it couldn't be because people like to enjoy game time with their friends like in so many other games right?
Yep another typical no skill response, I think they might be organised even if they're not so i'll just get a -2 pip and no blood points. While also increasing my risk of getting a ban because i can't stand trying to get better.
Oh and then there's this gem, wah I got outplayed and even if they were all 4 solo q players i'm going to act petulant and rage quit.
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@Eveline said:
I had a killer now who dc'ed because instead of 4k he got 2k. Gens powered dc.I get that sometimes too and there's a certain rank 1 killer a Billy that everytime he dc's after 30 seconds or so if he charges across a map and doesn't find anyone. It doesn't help that i always kill his Hex Totem within the 1st 2 minutes or so as soon as i realize it's him.
I've had killers who'll do it when they've gotten 3 ppl sac'd because the 4th person is about to get out from the gate. So they dc and lose all those points and a double pip all because they didn't get a 4k.
But on the other side and I've seen this from both sides a survivor will dc the moment they get hit or downed 1st time sometimes.
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Ok enough of this I'm calling telling mom and dad on you lot finally.
@MandyTalk @Peanits the teenagers are being mean to each other again. 😁
But seriously this thread has gone way off the rails so perhaps it's time has come to an end.
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The only way this would be viable is if there was a delay of between 1-3 minutes like League Of Legends does with their spectator mode.
It'd be a nice option when doing video playback to be able to see a perspective from each person as well but given p2p that's probably not possible.
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@pauloandrade22 said:
You can call all of the insults you want to try and socially coerce people to play with you.But I and you guys too would not purposefully play a rigged game where you are guarranteed to lose no matter what unless you get pitied on or they are just really bad players.
Yep the excuses keep on coming, rigged game, you're guaranteed to lose etc, what's next the sky is falling so therefore the internet will die thus you can't play?
If you're guaranteed to lose then why do so many killers do so well so often I mean against good survivors they still manage to get kills and even 4k.
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@Williamz said:
Wolf, you argue with everyone on these forums.
Agreed and if you look at the responses they'll argue to different and opposing things at the same time in one post. Very obvious troll now for those that haven't figured it out, even the other killers have been calling this one out.
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@Wolf74 said:
You know what is childish?
Yes the constant non stop whining and excuses from certain people on both sides that can't have it be there way all the time.
Someone who insist other on playing rigged games.
So how's it rigged again, oh wait it's not rigged and that Straw Man fell as flat on it's face as the flat earth theory.
SWF on voice com is unbalanced and borderline cheating.
You can keep whining about it all you want, it won't ever be called cheating unless and until the devs say it is, so get over it and stop blaming that for your gameplay.
Why should I accept it as a given?
Because that's the reality, just because you don't like it doesn't change the fact that's it's reality.
Every buff for killer the people complain about "but that would ruin the game for solo survivor", but that would only be 30% of the player… choose one, you can't have both.
So now it's well it'll ruin it for solo survivor choose well then if the majority says swf which is the majority of the player base then what? Does that mean you'll stop complaining finally since you can't have it both ways. We both know the answer to that one, the game could be completely killer balanced and you'd still complain.
If you want to recite Devs, do it completely, 70% of all lobbies include SWF of some kind, but only 50% of all survivor join the lobby via the Play with friends option; including those that join solo (using the play with friends button out of habit or to avoid lobby bugs).
You're a broken record since I've stated that 70% number quite often and in response to you, yet now you conveniently forget that fact. But it doesn't matter if it was 90% solo, you'd still complain about it.
So your numbers are wrong, or better said "twisted" to support your point, which they hardly do.
So wait now my numbers are wrong yet you had no problem when they supported you just earlier in this very same post. You just twisted yourself into one very convoluted knot of doublespeak in just a short bit of a post.
Since it's obvious you'll go to any lengths to distort we can safely assume you're here for nothing else but to troll.
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@Wolf74 said:
@LightsOut88 said:
Personally I have played the map 3 times, all 3 times as Freddy. I got two 4 mans and a 3 man w hatch escape. Its a small map with not many places to run to so, imo it is balanced towards the killer. Then again i have yet to play it as survivor but I have watched a few struggle in the new setting.At what rank?
Sounds like noobstomping.It's always noob stomping if a killer you call trash gets a 4k, it's never the killer worked for those kills or actually used skills.
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@Wolf74 said:
Are you aware that "darkest moonlight" isn't working anymore?
It's just a wasted offering…. but hey, your the pro. thumbupWorks fine on older maps spirit release.
It's obviously not a wasted offering if it still works on older maps, but hey you're the pro that seems to know it all yet still fails with the Ad Hominems..
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! mil doesn't always get to that high depending on Blood web rng sometimes i'm lucky to get into the 30's.
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Bitter Murmur + BBQ is pure evil, I also use Agitation and Make your Choice a lot too.
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@Wraff said:
@powerbats said:
Hmmn I wonder why so many rank 1 killers are playing her and getting 3-4k constantly right now if she's so trashy. Monto and Angry Pug the latter whos been on both sides of my matches has played her under a different name and wrecked with her.Wrecked with her at Rank 1 despite the fact that Pug has said several times that Rank 1 means nothing considering how easy it is to Rank up. Which is very true.
Yet killers always say get to rank 1 then talk, then turn around with the excuse you just used. They use Marth88 as an example when it benefits them.
Then turn around and say rank means nothing or that he's just a streamer when it doesn't.
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@Dabrownman1812 said:
What are those numbers for?
The numbers are to show what a false narrative 3-4 man swf groups are to the discussion at hand. That's always an excuse some on here try to buttress their argument about something so then you post the facts to blow that up.
