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@My_Dude said:
It's like survivors only plan around being knocked down, and grabbed.It's almost as like this is a made up thing since most lobbies at rank 1 there's 1 DS user if that.
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But she's a trash tier killers say the ppl that can't play her.
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@Tsulan said:
So... why nerf killers?I have so many equal opportunity responses that pop to mind here, all of them highly sarcastic.
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@Master said:
The event is finally done, no suiciding survivors anymore, no farming, back to normal gameplay.Logging in, almost insta queue (guess killer isnt that appealing anymore lol).
Playing a nice game until ..... DC
Mhm yeah thanks, guess the community hasnt changed.
Props to the devs for finally punishing DCing, I can really feel the difference
Don't feel bad, 1st game played P3 Quentin quits and his duo partner does as well, next game 1st person downed quits, 3rd game 1st person downed quits. After that it's been back to normal game play, some die some escape.
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@Global said:
When i play trapper survivors get out instantlyWhen i play survivor takes around 5-6 tries before trapper gets to me.
Same for me and I main Trapper and when I play Pig, it's 1st box 1st try traps off. When I get RBT'd it takes me usually 4-5 boxes or i'm dead before the 4th to 5th box.
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@Master said:
@Sinner said:
Can we all agree that the survivors that are great at keeping the killer busy the whole match should face the killers that are best at ending a chase as fast as possible?If so why not build the ranking system around chases?
Sure you can still get to rank 1 by doing gens and saving other survivors, as it is now, leave it like that. But once you're in a chase the outcome of that chase should impact the total points you get from all the emblems. You could setup several time thresholds.
Example: You get caught in less than a minute, you lose a lot of points that go towards the pip. You get caught in less than 2 minutes but more than a minute, you still lose points but less. You get caught after 2 minutes, you gain points. You get caught after 3 minutes, you gain even more points. And so on.Same with killer.
You keep chases short but they gen rush you and you don't get to sacrifice anyone, you still pip.
Or, you can't catch anyone but you have NOED and Blood Warden and sacrifice all 4 survivors at the end, you don't pip.This will help put players where they belong and lead to more balanced games. I really don't think there is any other way.
I dont think you understand what the game is about.
I will give you a hint, they are called "survivors" and "killers", not "looper" and "chaser"
I don't hardly ever agree with you but this hit the nail on the head, the game isn't call Ring around the sac Tree for a reason. If anything chases that max you out in 2 minutes shouldn't be a thing.
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I'm on all the time but Steam will pick up on it soon enough as will BHVR, what people don't realize is the boosting services get paid no matter what. You on the other hand risk much more than just that 1 game being banned, you risk your entire account.
You also risk all your private information which that service then sells to other 3rd parties which puts you at risk for identity theft.
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@Weederick said:
@Weederick said:
@Incarnate said:
@Weederick said:
We kinda got used to it, but i'd really like to see equal hitboxes, so we can get the cheese out of the way. Looping is gonna stay, but i think wouldnt complain that much, if the mechanics were actually balanced.I'm pretty sure survivors dont gain 0.4m/s advantage, that would make it possible to infinite slower killers.
Its more than EW1 MYers, since you can infinite him around anything.
So 0.2m/s advantage seems more fitting (or boosting survivors speed to 105%)They told us a year ago they wouldnt touch collision hitboxes, but it doesnt look as complicated to change as i thought. Hopefully they change their mind someday, that was one of the most requested wishes back in 2016.
That was the number given on the previous Q&A session on October 26th 2018, they even did the aproximate math on the devstream, of course they didn't account for every little variable or situation, but it was outright stated that they gain aproximately that amount. On the same Q&A they also so showed the reason why the survivor is gaining this distance to the killer - the difference between the collision capsules and the "tightness" of the turn.
It's values given by the devs, not something I've calculated, it's right here if you for some reason don't believe what I'm saying:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gTpZSllfMmw.It's around the 16:37 mark they begin to go into this.
Alright, its 6am and im in the mood for math... i'll try my best to calculate how much an average loop gains. The bigger the tile, the less impact looping has (it gets exponentially worse for smaller loops). Thus the example of a water tower is not very good and they also didnt do the math really, since they only provided absolute values but didnt explain how much a speed increase it gives.
We should care about the loops we actually play with. The average loop is 15-20m long and we're gonna assume its a circle. The circumference is 2piR. Killer radius is 0,5m, survivor radius is 0,45m.For a 15m loop: U=15m=2piR, so the loops radius is R=15m/2pi=2.39m.
The killer loops a 2,89m radius circle, while the survivor loops a 2,84m radius circle. Now we calculate the new circumference for killer and survivor, which is
U(Killer)= 2,89m2pi= 18,15m
U(Survivor)= 2,84m2pi = 17,83m
It takes 3,94s for the killer to loop once (18,15m : 4,6m/s) and 4,45s for the survivor (17,83m : 4m/s).
If the survivor had the same hitbox as the killer, it would take 4,54s to loop once (18,15m : 4m/s).
So the speed increase would be 2% (4,54s : 4,45s).For a 20m loop (R=3,18m):
U(Killer) = 23,15m
U(Survivor) = 22,83m
It takes 5,70s to loop once. And it takes 5,79s if survivors had killers hitboxes.
So the speed increase for a 20m loop would be 1,5% (5,79s : 5,70s)
If survivors had the same hitbox as killers, they would lose out the additional 1,5%-2% of their movement speed, which is ~0,075m/s. The speed difference between killer and survivor is only 0,6m/s or 0,4m/s, so that results in a 14% effective speed increase (0,6m/s : 0,525m/s) against normal killers and a 23% effective speed increase (0,4m/s : 0,325m/s) against slower killers.
Tl;dr: Looping takes around 15% longer to catch up due to hitbox differences (more for slow killers).
Honestly not as much as i expected. I guess other factors play a role like acceleration. Notable is that slower killers are more affected than normal killers from the hitbox abuse.
I'm really tired, so if my math doesnt make sense somewhere, please tell me. I'll sleep for now.It got approved
For everyone who is interested in hitbox abuse and what it does. Please tell me, if the math is wrong. Thats the first time we can calculate the hitbox consequences for dbd.I'd ask @Orion who's also a math whiz on here to take a look.
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@Tsulan said:
Peasant said:The sooner we buff solo survivors to the level of SWF survivors, the sooner we can hit them all with a nerf nuke.
While I agree with you, I also have my doubts. It all depends how long it takes to nuke survivors.
Also, you underestimate the review bomb that would follow. Survivors went crazy with the exhaustion nerf. Now Imagine an actual meaningful nerf.A nerf isn't what's needed, it's a buff to killers once solo is on par with swf you can more easily balance around that. The best way to do that is do it in increments so people get used to it similar to what they're doing now.
You buff solo up in increments towards swf level while also buffing killers up in equal increments or just below solo so solo doesn't get insta nuked.
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@Giche said:
@powerbats said:
Facts don't lie it's not considered an exploit according to the devs and neither is camping /tunneling. So perhaps you should think about that.
Camping and tunneling are legit tactics who don't outpass any game mechanics.
But Devs just added a emblem nerf for campers, so there isn't much to complain about now, i guess.Gentapping avoid the entire skillcheck mechanic in a unintended way.
There's nothing to discuss here.
You're right there's nothing to talk about here since the devs already said it's not an exploit and the arguments have already been given why it's not an exploit.
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@Giche said:
@powerbats said:
Devs make the rules, teh devs say it's not an exploit so your claims to the contrary have no basis or factual claim to be correct.
They said back then that : "Infinite take skills" when asked for a fix.
Get lost.
Facts don't lie it's not considered an exploit according to the devs and neither is camping /tunneling. So perhaps you should think about that.
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https://support.deadbydaylight.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
USe that link to submit a ticket directly to support, they should be able to help resolve this.
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@friendlykillermain said:
@powerbats said:
https://support.deadbydaylight.com/hc/en-us/requests/newIt helps if you have the message still and or a screenshot.
Also was this on Pc/Xbox/Console?
@MandyTalk @Peanits might have some additional advice.
This was on ps4 and yes I have the screen shots of the messages but I cannot access them because it's 2:30 in the morning what should I do in the meantime to help this
Use the submit ticket link and you can also I think contact Sony and let them know since that sounds like a TOS/EULA violation.
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@Tsulan said:
powerbats said:@Tsulan said:
Yeah double standards are strong in this community. Killer can't tunnel survivors, but survivors can tunnel gens because it's their only objective...
Insert the umpteen million complaints boths sides have, rinse and repeat and you've read the entire forum over 9000 times.
Tunneling is efficient for both sides. Killers slow the match down and survivors have less things to do.
There's no blaming on the bigger picture.
Survivors need additional objectives and might get more time on the hook. Or survivors stay with the current objective and get less time on the hook. Just as examples.
It's a question of who needs to be pressured and why. I think survivors need to be pressured more and the killer less.
Oh I agree and I'm looking forward to the added objective, the devil is of course int the details as they say and how it gets worked in. But do killers really want 10-15 minute matches given the ahem comments about games lasting longer than 6 minutes i've seen on here.
I've enjoyed my longer matches where it's been tense for both sides until the very end and for the most part most of both sides have as well.
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I've got so many different things that come to mind but none of them would do this justice. Perhaps a killer main would like to respond about 46 straight 3k matches.
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@se05239 said:
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@powerbats said:
Her very rare outfit is really amazing and I can't wait to P3 itI got P3 on her a few days ago. Looks amazing!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1552862462That looks amazing but I'm going for the P3 of her very rare outfit since that should look badass.
You cannot get a bloodied version of anything other than the base getup.
Sacrilege, grab the pitchforks and torches !!!!!
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@Tsulan said:
Yeah double standards are strong in this community. Killer can't tunnel survivors, but survivors can tunnel gens because it's their only objective...
Insert the umpteen million complaints boths sides have, rinse and repeat and you've read the entire forum over 9000 times.
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https://support.deadbydaylight.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
It helps if you have the message still and or a screenshot.
Also was this on Pc/Xbox/Console?
@MandyTalk @Peanits might have some additional advice.
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@Nickenzie said:
powerbats said:Debuff would be fine until healed but an extra effect might make it too op. It should also work by you only get more power by hitting/hooking away from the hook.
Thanataphobia:
As survivors see their mortality, they will begin to lose their hope in escaping. Whenever you injured a survivor, all survivors will suffer a 10/15/20% speed penalty to all actions until that survivor is healed to the healthy state. Once that survivor is healed to the healthy state or eliminated from the trial, this perk will go into a 60/50/40 second cool down.I think that this is the perfect rework since it adds a reasonable penalty while having a simple counter.
Generators:
80 (Base generator repair time) divided by 1c/s - 0.2c/s = 100 second generator repair times. So, basically a 25% increase in generator repair time for a 20% decrease in speed.Healing:
16 (Base healing time) divided by 1c/s - 0.2c/s = 20 second heal time. So, again, basiclly a 25% increase in the heal time for a 20% decrease in speed.What do you think @powerbats @Global?
That sounds intriguing but then what happens if you throw Mangled in there and or say Coultrophobia etc?
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@Cardgrey said:
@powerbats said:
@Incarnate said:
@fcc2014 said:
It takes longer to Gen tap than actually work through it. Who cares if 4 survivors gen tap their way through the whole match the problem isn't gen tapping the problem is you! You need to apply map pressure. Stop using excuses as to why you "fail".Hang on there, there is a difference between tapping your way through until it's done and just tapping once to remove the regressing mechanic, including any effect put on - like overcharge. It takes time for the killer to make the gen regress - ie. to apply the overcharge effect, time which the killer could be using to apply map pressure.
So no the problem isn't me - if you can't see that there is a problem, then you have a problem.
Also, being able to just keep single tapping to avoid an intended game mechanic, is by definition an exploit, which devs really should realize but apparently don't.Devs make the rules, teh devs say it's not an exploit so your claims to the contrary have no basis or factual claim to be correct. That's just your opinion and gen tapping doesn't stop the explosion from overcharge. As far as Ruin being gen tapped if you're complaining about that then the problem is most definitely you.
In fact you want them gen tapping away since it takes them forever to finish 1 gen and quite often they'll still blow the thing up.
O.O camping and tunnelling are also on that list. can't cherry pick now lol
I'm already aware they're on the list but so is looping LOL. 😜
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Bottom line no matter how much you yell, complain, post, opine on it etc, IT'S NOT AN EXPLOIT. You don't avoid the skillcheck if it goes off while you're gen tapping, it still happens and blows up losing progress. If the killer has hit the gen with Overcharge you can't gen tap your way out of it, that difficult skill check still comes up.
Whether I tap the gen 1 second or 2 seconds to stop regression it's not an exploit no matter what you say. If I tap that gen and hold M1 for 2-3 seconds i get the same effect which means i'ts not an exploit. If you as a killer can't handle a survivor gen tapping then the problem is you're a bad killer.
You as a killer want that person gen tapping because that means they're going to take forever to do that gen and they'll blow it up occasionally too. By letting them gen tap and going after the better survivors you make escape that much more difficult.
Which is better, going after the gen tapper that'll take 3-5 minutes to do 1 gen or the person that's hitting good/great skill checks through Ruin and finishing that gen in 60-120 seconds? If the answer is the former, you're a bad killer and if it's the latter you're a good and smarter killer.
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Debuff would be fine until healed but an extra effect might make it too op. It should also work by you only get more power by hitting/hooking away from the hook.
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Paging Dr @Orion since you're the resident math genius here perhaps you could weigh in.
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@Incarnate said:
@fcc2014 said:
It takes longer to Gen tap than actually work through it. Who cares if 4 survivors gen tap their way through the whole match the problem isn't gen tapping the problem is you! You need to apply map pressure. Stop using excuses as to why you "fail".Hang on there, there is a difference between tapping your way through until it's done and just tapping once to remove the regressing mechanic, including any effect put on - like overcharge. It takes time for the killer to make the gen regress - ie. to apply the overcharge effect, time which the killer could be using to apply map pressure.
So no the problem isn't me - if you can't see that there is a problem, then you have a problem.
Also, being able to just keep single tapping to avoid an intended game mechanic, is by definition an exploit, which devs really should realize but apparently don't.Devs make the rules, teh devs say it's not an exploit so your claims to the contrary have no basis or factual claim to be correct. That's just your opinion and gen tapping doesn't stop the explosion from overcharge. As far as Ruin being gen tapped if you're complaining about that then the problem is most definitely you.
In fact you want them gen tapping away since it takes them forever to finish 1 gen and quite often they'll still blow the thing up.
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@Aviema said:
@powerbats said:
@Aviema It's not that you're saying it, it's that you're implying it by how you worded your post and if you go back and reread it dispassionately you'll see that's what it looks like. Also the gen rushing comment is overall and if you look at killer complaints that ties into it.As someone else mentioned you can run whispers and your response was to call them basically childish and running a perk ######### because you don't want to run anything but what you want.
You really need to stop trying to read into what people are saying because I promise you, you aren't smart enough for that. Everything you magically made up inside that neurotic mind of yours about "what I'm implying" isn't true. Just flat out, and you know why it isn't true? Because you don't know what's inside of my mind, I do. Pretty simple, surprised you haven't learned that lesson yet mate. Your reply to me, and these points that you keep bringing up are irrelevant and derailing the thread. This discussion between me and you is done.
When you have to resort to insults you've already lost the debate and then throwing up the virtual white flag by saying the discussion is done is just as bad. If you're going to approach everyone that disagrees with you that way you'll find most of the forum doesn't agree with you.
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@Nickenzie said:
powerbats said:@Nickenzie said:
powerbats said:
It seems killers rage quitting during matches are indeed causing the non graphical and actual depip as if you depipped due to doing poorly in game again. @MandyTalk @Peanits This is getting quite annoying since it's now happening more often and not just possibly after a patch hits. Also after exiting the game from that match I got an EAC game access code violation box popup window.
Um, the red bar not reaching the black pip zone doesn't mean you depip'd. Please refer to the RANK PROGRESS: 0 since the killer DC'd but I wasn't punished. However you might have experienced a bug.
Yeah it's a rare bug not the visual one but an actual bug where you depip by 1 and it's only happening at rank 1 and it's with different killers but it does seem to only be P3 too.
Ahh, thank you for the clarification!
Np, i've talked with @MandyTalk about it before and @Peanits as well but it's rare enough the devs haven't been able to track it down yet.
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@Aviema It's not that you're saying it, it's that you're implying it by how you worded your post and if you go back and reread it dispassionately you'll see that's what it looks like. Also the gen rushing comment is overall and if you look at killer complaints that ties into it.
As someone else mentioned you can run whispers and your response was to call them basically childish and running a perk ######### because you don't want to run anything but what you want.
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@Nickenzie said:
Master said:@powerbats said:
Getting a hatch and getting all 3 out is rare since the killer once they see it tends to camp it's area or watch for others gathering. What makes no sense is that if no one has the key what are you complaining about since no ones getting to use it unless they're the last one left.
A killer camping a closed hatch? nice joke bro
This is a thing?
Yes as I pointed out the op had it in their post but after I called them on it edited it out.
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@ModernFable said:
They could do something like, reduce the max stacks from 4 to 2, buff the numbers a tiny bit, and then give it another effect.Otherwise I don’t see them doing much.
I highly doubt they’ll find some sweet spot for the percentages, where it’s very good, but not oppressive.
Yeah % always make it super difficult to fix since you run into does it become op with a small change and also duplicative/multiplicative.
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@Nickenzie said:
powerbats said:It seems killers rage quitting during matches are indeed causing the non graphical and actual depip as if you depipped due to doing poorly in game again.
This is getting quite annoying since it's now happening more often and not just possibly after a patch hits.
Also after exiting the game from that match I got an EAC game access code violation box popup window.
Um, the red bar not reaching the black pip zone doesn't mean you depip'd. Please refer to the RANK PROGRESS: 0 since the killer DC'd but I wasn't punished. However you might have experienced a bug.Yeah it's a rare bug not the visual one but an actual bug where you depip by 1 and it's only happening at rank 1 and it's with different killers but it does seem to only be P3 too.
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Good breakdown and sadly there's so many perks like this that if you buff one something similar either becomes absolutely worthless or brokenly op.
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@brokedownpalace said:
Dear diary...Best post for today.
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@KingB said:
We should wait until the December optimization patch to start trying to get cross playWell if Xbox instituted cross play for PC and got optimized for it Sony would have to as well or be left out as people move to Xbox for that. Since Microsoft has already talked about wanting to do it and is working on it Sony's going to be the only one other than say nintendo not offering it.
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@Aviema said:
@michaelmyers87 said:
Whispersyou're that kid who always did that, "I'm not touching you!" annoying ######### aren't you? Using a perk slot to counter ######### behavior is not even close to an adequate solution.
So the last survivor should just run up to the killer and say take me I'm yours right? No survivor in their right mind is just going to give you an easy kill. You're not entitled to that free kill anymore than the survivor is entitled to making it out.
If you were playing a high mobility killer then of course that survivor is going to try and move around. It's funny you killers complain about being gen rushed but when it's the other way around it's I can't have my 4th victim for free.
Yes it's annoying to have to go find someone but that's why you run Whispers if you see stealthy players, Doctor, etc. You have to go earn that 4th kill even if it takes time.
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@yeet said:
powerbats said:@Master said:
@powerbats said:
Getting a hatch and getting all 3 out is rare since the killer once they see it tends to camp it's area or watch for others gathering. What makes no sense is that if no one has the key what are you complaining about since no ones getting to use it unless they're the last one left.
A killer camping a closed hatch? nice joke bro
You do realize killers do that or are you just trolling as usual, oh and read what the op said., you know where they complain about 3 ppl getting the hatch. Well now you can't because they edited it out after being called on it.
In 4.5k hours i have NEVER seen a killer camp a closed hatch.
Do you actually believe the crap you're spewing?I've seen it in 3 instances and of course I expected nothing else from the 2 of you although you can be forgiven for not seeing the ops post where he basically admitted to doing so. The other person did in fact see the original post yet wants to keep trolling, you just joined in unknowingly.
So perhaps the only crap that's being spewed here would be the 1 person deliberately trolling and the person following int their footsteps.
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@Master said:
@powerbats said:
Getting a hatch and getting all 3 out is rare since the killer once they see it tends to camp it's area or watch for others gathering. What makes no sense is that if no one has the key what are you complaining about since no ones getting to use it unless they're the last one left.A killer camping a closed hatch? nice joke bro
You do realize killers do that or are you just trolling as usual, oh and read what the op said., you know where they complain about 3 ppl getting the hatch. Well now you can't because they edited it out after being called on it.
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@KillJiggy said:
@KillJiggy said:
Yall do realize PS4 is still reluctant to allow crossplay, nothing the devs could do if they wanted to.PS4 will not allow crossplay. This thread is pointless.
This, Sony will never allow crossplay ever, they'd screw themselves out of all the royalty money and other money grubbing moves they can do by being solo.
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Getting a hatch and getting all 3 out is rare since the killer once they see it tends to camp it's area or watch for others gathering. What makes no sense is that if no one has the key what are you complaining about since no ones getting to use it unless they're the last one left.
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Hmmn I think I'll hold onto my stockpile of BPS though for now for the dbl event and perhaps just use all my other goodies instead or not.
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@se05239 said:
@powerbats said:
Her very rare outfit is really amazing and I can't wait to P3 itI got P3 on her a few days ago. Looks amazing!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1552862462That looks amazing but I'm going for the P3 of her very rare outfit since that should look badass.
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Apologies for the rank mix up part way too early on little sleep low versus high ranks.
@Tsulan If I took it out of context it was because there was no context to compare it to, now think about someone else coming to the forums and seeing that. They'd come to the exact same conclusion, if you're going to reply to someone with what you said you need to have context for others to know what you're talking about.
Had you put the poster you were referring to post in there at least the relevant parts I'd have been able to understand you better. But as it is my comments to you were accurate based upon what was in your posts.
That said apologies for taking what you said out f context, but in the future at least leave a little bit of the post or the posters tag so it's obvious who you're referring to.
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I was referring to your statement not his hence why i quoted you so my statement is still correct.
What´s next, counting every single pallet as a separate nerf?
That's a pretty weak Straw Man considering you know for a fact I never said anything remotely close to that.
Ds hasn't been nerfed.
I never said it has, again Straw Mans are beneath you.
They're trying to get it right so it works for both sides.
Until the nerf is live, there hasn´t been any DS nerfs. Or can we close the hatch, or do survivors have inbuild kindred? Devs talk a lot...
My statement still stands as correct and good grief give up on the Red Herrings, now you're just plain trolling.
Exhaustion nerf only affected a tiny amount of the playerbase.
Tiny is your estimation since SB was one of the most top used perks or did you forget you and the other killer mains posting stats that claimed that?
That'd be incorrect since survivors make up the majority of the player base and as you killer mains always like to point out. Most groups run SB or another exhaustion based perk.
Exhaustion only affected survivors which were able to use SB more than once in the same chase. That amount of the playerbase IS really small. I never managed to trigger it twice in a chase, could you?
Yet your own statements and the statements of other killers mains contradicts what you just claimed. You all claimed that it was being triggered more than 1x during a chase and that's why it needed to be nerfed. As for me triggering it 2x yes i did do it.
Pallets are not supposed to be safe. You get 1000 points for hitting space. As much as a unsafe hook, almost as much as a complete gen. There should be some risk involved.
That's not really accurate and is quite misleading since you only get those 1k points for hitting space if you actually get the stun to land. That unsafe unhook though makes you lose those points when the person gets rehooked. So yes there's quite a bit of risk involved since you run the risk of getting hit and or downed.
Risk vs reward. You risk getting hit, in hope of getting those tasty 1000 points. If you drop the pallet ealier, you won´t get the points, but you don´t risk getting hit.
You still risk getting hit regardless, you only don't get hit if you drop it too earlier but the risk is still there because you might drop it too late.If you drop it too early you just wasted the pallet and you get no tasty points.
Game has been survivor sided for over 2 years and still is. Better prepare for more changes.
The game is survivor sided except at high ranks where it's heavily killer sided to the point of being op yet killers don't complain about it. The changes are slowly making things better but when the game is finally where it should be close to what will you still complain?
I think you mixed up the ranks. Game is only killer sided on the noob ranks. Mid and high ranks are heavily survivor sided.
No I didn't you and most of the other killers always refer to ranks 1-5 which are low numbers as low ranks whereas ranks 15-20 are high numbers thus high ranks. Whether it's high or low numbers the noob ranks is killer sided.
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@Wolf74 said:
@powerbats said:
The game is survivor sided except at high ranks where it's heavily killer sided to the point of being op yet killers don't complain about it.
lol
That one is the showstopper for me.^^
High ranks are killersided?? Plz tell me you made a mistake typing this.^^You apparently didn't read it well enough since as you've pointed out high ranks aka 15-20 are killer sided and you tell survivors to get to rank 1 where it's the opposite.
Whereas the most of the forum goers that're experienced, you included refer to ranks 1-5 aka red ranks as low ranks.
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@Tsulan said:
Sc wasn't nerfed.It was indirectly nerfed with the healing nerf
Ds hasn't been nerfed.
They're trying to get it right so it works for both sides.
Exhaustion nerf only affected a tiny amount of the playerbase.
That'd be incorrect since survivors make up the majority of the player base and as you killer mains always like to point out. Most groups run SB or another exhaustion based perk.
Pallets are not supposed to be safe. You get 1000 points for hitting space. As much as a unsafe hook, almost as much as a complete gen. There should be some risk involved.
That's not really accurate and is quite misleading since you only get those 1k points for hitting space if you actually get the stun to land. That unsafe unhook though makes you lose those points when the person gets rehooked. So yes there's quite a bit of risk involved since you run the risk of getting hit and or downed.
Game has been survivor sided for over 2 years and still is. Better prepare for more changes.
The game is survivor sided except at high ranks where it's heavily killer sided to the point of being op yet killers don't complain about it. The changes are slowly making things better but when the game is finally where it should be close to what will you still complain?
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Her very rare outfit is really amazing and I can't wait to P3 it
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@wimlin I've been rank 1 as survivor every seasons for last few seasons and generally stay there pretty consistently. I've got almost 1300 hours in the game now and the healing changes while an abrupt change aren't that bad.
You just have to adapt and get used to it just like with any game that updates things where you have to learn the new system and change your ways.
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Thanks Patricia since i'm getting close to Devotion level 4 I think and i slowed down some because it just feels unrewarding at times.
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I see rank 1 Spirits all the time now because she's got such good movement speed while phased and unlike Billy can actually sneak up and grab you off a gen.
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I've been letting people farm vials alle vent and even more so since there's still people just starting or doing it due to work/server issues. Having it go till Sunday wouldn't be a bad thing since by then people should be able to finish.
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@Tsulan said:
I just confirm that it was ez. Don't have to go into detail on for whom.
People are salty anyways.True and I've gotten some rather interesting comments lately from both sides some of which I can't post here and others just make you shake your head.