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I think that @Blueberry still want to do that challenge, to prove his point
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@Blueberry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2209785#Comment_2209785
It is extremely minor to near non existent. Also reduced further by crouching. Totally gone when injured as well if we're taking Stridor off.
This doesn't stop me from mind gaming rank one Spirits all the time. Nearly no Spirit is actually hearing that breathing, it's usually the survivor being simply predictable.
with good headphones that non existent didnt exist. you still could hear where the survivor are.
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nah i prefer nurse or blight way way much than spirit. anyway blight is hard to learn like nurse and if you got chase by him its fun, unlike spirit.
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only forever freddy nerfed and doesnt add anything to freddy. He's weak killer but annoyingly prolong the match with his add on.
anyway people already talk about this freddy and spirit nerf for long time. where've you been ?
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i used to main her and think i was great playing killer. try other killer at last and see how noob i am. lol
but with other killers i'm keeping better at game than with spirit.
anyway i hate her after that and cant stand with stridor spirit anymore.
wish her nerfed already
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@Rullisi said:
Have you played dbd? She isn't that powerful as many other killers
what other killers you mean ? she is the S tier par on nurse. have you played dbd ?
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@ProfGameAndTalk said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2205458#Comment_2205458
Where's your data that this is the state of Spirit? Oh, there's no data other than your frustration? Rework Spirit when all the survivor second chance perks get nerfed.
in case of this it is you that should provide data. you're the one that state spirit is fine while majority of player said isn't you're the one making statement. dont turn this into logical fallacy
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lol pebble the strongest and most reliable perk
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if you add spirit with stridor and good headphones you can't escape her no matter what you do
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@TGB said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2194782#Comment_2194782
They don't glow until you waste your time hitting them and putting yourself on cooldown.......... Did you read a single thing???
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2194696#Comment_2194696
Just accept it, you want literal free wins (and are used to getting them, thus your crying over Killers strategically attacking injured Survivors, and trying to shun them out of playing smart).
lol I play killer and main killer, while you just want to tunnel hard but not accepting it
Sorry but you need to upgrade your play
This is for you too :
Just accept it, you want literal free wins (and are used to tunneling them, thus your crying over Survivor strategically unhook other Survivors, and trying to shun them out of playing smart).
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@TGB said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2194561#Comment_2194561
Yes. I'm aware that both the Survivor community AND now apparently the game devs are "encouraging me" (forcing me) to go after the rescuer instead of the injured Survivor. I'm being "ENCOURAGED" to throw the game.
They want me to evenly spread out hits, and hooks, and gen damage, and yada yada yada. But this all just makes for SUPER EASY Survivor wins.
... But that's what everyone wants.
Easy Survivor wins.
I'm at the point where I believe that's what DBD's main appeal is as a video game. Think about it mathematically.
For a game to start, we need FOUR TIMES as many Survivor players than Killer players.
... But queue times for Killer are pretty... regular. Like, a minute. Because there are THAT MANY Survivor players. Because it's the easy win.
Survivor players are literally here for the feel-good easy winnings, at the expense of us total suckers that play Killer. Their entire fun relies on us Killers continuously and masochistically queuing up as the Sucker Faction of the game.
That's why, when god forbid a Killer wins a game, it is almost 100% of the time an explosion of toxic crap in post-game chat. Because they're SURPRISED. And they're not used to it. And they're only used to getting whatever they want, so they lash out like spoiled children.
When even the devs force you to play suboptimally as the Killer, what else does it take for people to realize this???
(There were a million other ways to do BT's job that weren't make this guy invincible for 20% of a minute.)
imagine making excuse this long about tunneling. you could create whole essay about 12s by saying 20% of minute.
Just accept it you tunnel hard
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2179845#Comment_2179845
People keep bringing it up because it's true and very well-known in the comp community. As much as Scott makes valid points in many videos, he is straight up wrong in that regard. The animation resets when she charges her phase. Intended mechanic or not, it's a thing.
https://twitter.com/SeyItAint/status/1384471343685582853?s=19
https://twitter.com/poopwilsonttv/status/1388323063788408833?s=19
sorry but as i know this one is inconsistent, that means sometimes you could use that when the animation reset but you couldn't always rely on it
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@NotACompPlayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2179571#Comment_2179571
There's a clear indication she's phasing, you would've noticed it by now if you had enough experience in the game. I don't feel like revealing it though just to keep bitter players that aren't willing to get better boiling under their own frustration.
wow clear indication she's phasing but cant tell. I also have 1000+ hours would like to really know about that secret.
This is really new for veteran players.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VOHy-NA2qaY@[Deleted User] said:
Spirit does have some counterplay. The issue is that the agreed upon counterplay isn't actually the counterplay, so 99% of the community always tries things that won't work and then shouts "OMG NO COUNTERPLAY". It's really dumb to me.
She has an idle animation reset when she starts to charge her phase and a still has to use her power to cover distance. It's not that hard to induce a 50/50 play against Spirit, and at that point, are the odds that different from a Nurse/Blight/Hag/etc? Why should survivors have 100% counterplay in an asymmetrical game?
no animation reset is inconsistent, why some people keep bringing this up ?
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@PigMainBigBrain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2178704#Comment_2178704
First off....you shouldn't be camping pallets against a killer regardless of who it is....
This conversation about spirit, NoED, DS, Keys, Nurse, Ruin etc etc come up over and over again. And people never look inward to improve, just whine about it until its nerfed etc. Killers will whine over and over again about old DS. Somebody comes on forums and explains a way to counter it, the immediate response is NO+(INSERT EXCUSE HERE) People whine about Keys, people say, you know its easy to just run franklins you can see the damn key in the lobby. Response is (But muh NO IT TOO POWERFUL NID NERF) People give tips over and over and over again about how to counter NoED, Spirit, Nurse, hell Even old mettle of man had a weak spot. But NOOOOOOO...
People aren't willing to improve. And its sad to see this state of the game. Where a few years ago, everybody in red ranks was a certified SAVAGE. Now its just a joke, and you have people who are supposed to be good at the game looking at their rank. Not even have basic functionality when it comes to countering either a strong killer asset nor a strong survivor one. Its pathetic to see these threads....
I agree that camping pallets is worthless but dropping pallet strategy is useless against this killer since she can just phase shortly with no effect after she finished her initial phasing, with good headphones your chance to escape her is almost zero. You can argue whatever but still majority players agree that she needs nerf.
the red rank survivor is currently jokes right now since dev never fixed any matchmaking
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@Tsulan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2179063#Comment_2179063
The same could be said about the pigs traps. Annoying doesn´t mean OP. Its just a matter of adapting to each killer.
actually pig should be buffed on the traps either making her trap countdown faster or survivor should unlock in 2 place before could remove it, most of killers in this game need to be buffed, the gap between tier A and B or C killers is still big
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@Pulsar said:
On behalf of people with hand pain and smashed space bars, please do not bring back old struggle.
I'm still waiting for wiggle part to be fixed as well
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@PigMainBigBrain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2178305#Comment_2178305
Stop playing the same way against spirit then?
Why keep trying the same tactics when they don't work....doesn't make any sense. She's a killer who needs chases. Playing stealthy against her helps loads. Dropping your pallet and moving on to the next loop helps loads. Windows....HELP LOADS....
Oh and one more thing.....DON'T CAMP PALLETS! Its an old hint but works just the same.
Truth is nothing works on spirit, even if you just camp pallet it's only giving slight time to prolong the chase, i'm still the same as @MadLordJack , i used to feels angry when someone said to nerf spirit, but looking back with other killer you would realize how imbalance her skill with other killers. I'm more agreed to buff other killers and nerf spirit than just let spirit not to be touched
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@DapperTrapper said:
- Guys I'm totally a Spirit main, i'm not just saying it to try and boost my opinion, I pinky swear it!
Are survivors really gonna resort to this kind of pathetic lies to try and get killers nerfed? Why instead of spending time crying on forums they don't git gud?
ah, the entitled killer main that doesnt play survivor, try playing other killer besides spirit and compare her power like i did and maybe you could have more objective thinking after that
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Stridor spirit literally destroy everything that survivor can counter her. I think the least nerf they can give is reduce their sound by 50% when phasing.
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@PigMainBigBrain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2176397#Comment_2176397
Look at the grass around her feet....survivors keep making this bullshit excuse to her power all the damn time.....so its about time yall got a hint.
When she's invisible....she still moves grass....
ahh this myth never was proven. anyway i used to main stridor spirit, I could say spirit is the less effort 4K killer that is borderline OP and need good equipment for that. Even if survivor can hide, with stridor their breath still can be easily tracked
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stopped playing spirit makes me realize how noob i am playing other killer. I despise that killer now since most of killer main doesnt realize how clueless they re when not playing stridor spirit
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@Munqaxus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2157598#Comment_2157598
Weird. That's definitely not what I'm seeing. I'm getting instant survivor queues and am waiting 5-10 minutes for a killer queue.
yeah same happening to me too, queue time for killer just really bad for me, makes me play survivor more since i can't play killer if i dont wanna waste 5-15 mins.
@FreddysMain said:
I think survivors just complain more. not everyone but most of them.
nah not really, this forum is more killer based, some killer just whine more than survivor if you wanna see survivor complain you can go to reddit or steam forum
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@Trickstaaaaa said:
I still use it. It feels great at end game when I have 100% guaranteed out to a win, when I'm getting camped at end game. it's gotten me a couple of wins. I like the nerfs they made to it, since I play killer as well.
actually i played both i think better buff a bit for DS so it wont gone when you heal teammates or yourself i think that was fair compared to how DS now.
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@Tsulan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2157591#Comment_2157591
LoL What?
Yesterday i powered up DbD during prime time. Solo survivor queue = 6 minutes. Killer queue = instant.
i think this depends on region mine takes like 5-15 mins for killer while survivor is instant. nowadays i play survivor more than killer. even though it is not like this 6 - 12 months ago
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@Unifall said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2155161#Comment_2155161
You dont have to guess if you know what you're doing. Stridor sometimes hurts more than helps. Stridor sometimes makes the survivor seem closer than they are. Have you played spirit without stridor? Survivors makes less noise if they have iron will.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2155562#Comment_2155562
Right and no one plays billy, nurse is rare and blight? He's a nightmare on console. Nurse can go through objects, blight has 4 times to use his ability, and billy can break pallets and is an insta down if he uses his power see what I mean? Its also worth noting that all those 3 killers can see survivors. Spirit has no indication where survivors are except scratch marks. And people make less noise with iron will. I play every single killer and some are better than others but the difference between spirit and the other killers is that survivors have to actually try to use new tactics against her like double backing, mind game more and adapt to the way she's playing.
nurse is rare ? why in my game it's really common to see nurse ? blight has 4 time to use his ability but spirit has easier control => see what i mean, your argument is really biased but whatever you said is spirit is the only killer with speed boost that doesnt have to be stunned each time she used her skill, you can't deny this
@theplaggg said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2155562#Comment_2155562
Spirit has counterplay though. I dislike facing a Spirit but its not like I'll die no matter what because "she has no counterplay".
She is strong but not as busted as you try to make her appear.
yeah she has counterplay if you run ironwill and i don't use stridor, if I use stridor pretty much no counterplay, this is how broken she is
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@Unifall said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2154092#Comment_2154092
If you see her use her power to catch up to you she has to wait for her to use it again. If you're in a good loop area use it until you see her use her power again. She's 110% so she's gonna suffer in most loop tiles without her power. Mindgames? If people are falling for the standing still mind game thats your own fault.
well she has to save but unlike nurse which will make his stunned for a while or billy or blight or any other killer. she can continue chase as soon as she finished phasing. see how unfair she is ? combined with stridor then there's no counterplay. I suggest you play other killer first before saying she is not OP, just like i did. compare how easy she can get 4K compare to other killer
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@KlapzCheeks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2153189#Comment_2153189
Survivor is 100x easier than killer. Survivor mains lord and savior even said it. Again, if youre not running iron will every game youre wrong. Easily one of the best survivor perks in the game.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2153196#Comment_2153196
Not hard to learn? Alright go give a person with 50 hours of killer gameplay and put them against a 4 stack and see how they fair. Im not even talking a 4 man death squad, just a average survivors on comms. Who wins? ######### they dont even need comms. 4 stack wins every time.
If you think you need to be able to loop a killer to win, wrong. So what shes fast? Every killers counterplay is break line of sight. Im sorry it is so difficult to grasp that. Oh the killer isnt moving? Let me sit here at this loop and not move. I should be able to do that, killer shouldnt. She stops moving you know what you do? RUN. THE. #########. AWAY. Dont sit at the loop at the pallet hoping for a stun.
Claudette 3:16 If I cant loop the killer thou is OP and shall be nerfed. :)
is this a bait ? but in case you serious, you see Phasmamain post and how neutral most of member said if spirit is broken. I used to main spirit until i tried other killer and know how easy was to play spirit compared to other killer.
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@psionic said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2153105#Comment_2153105
Play Spirit and you will find out that there is A LOT of counterplay.
i play spirit and i used to main spirit with good headset and stridor she doesnt have counterplay. i can guess your location really accurately.
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@Jane_Is_Mega_Thicc said:
Stridor needs a rework, it’s concept is very unhealthy, especially if your facing a killer like Spirit or Nurse.
My Idea is to make it like this: All survivor actions sounds such as generators, healing, cleansing totems, opening exit gates are 10% louder for every injured survivor.
stridor is fine, spirit is not, that's the problem
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@Krunga said:
Playing Spirit for a month straight made it easier to play against her. Her shards glow when she's in her phasing state and always trust your gut feeling if you want to drop a pallet.
A great way to learn how to play against her is by playing her. It's worth it since she's S tier and most likely to be played against you.
you could tell by shard you need really close which is really impossible to tell. basically if anyone try to said to looks for shard then you need to be awfully close to this killer and some skin can cover most of her shard
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if the spirit has stridor then just GG, but most of spirit runs stridor and that show how much try hard win they want, just better give them 4K and go on with the next game
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myers : T3 as long as he sees survivor his power wont drop.
plague : after infected give timer if survivors dont cure themselves they will be down
billy : give his prev power back
trickster : give his knife bouncing
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@CashelP14 said:
Massively increased. The devs can record stats and I'd like to see how much the numbers increases lol
Just the number of survivors getting rehooked within 60 seconds of being unhooked
this is the reason why dev shouldnt really listen to community. yet most people believe that if dev listen to community would result in fair game,
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- pray the killer is noob
- pray the killer doesn't have good headphones
- pray the killer have pity on you
At this point no counter can be effective on her, if she's good then she can pinpoint exact location on you, the worst miss would only be like 1 meter which would easily able to counter by just approaching you again.
Bonus point if she has bbq + ruin maybe just suicide yourself
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actually maybe making his knives bounce as basekit ao it can cover deadzone ?
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now many killer eat dsed compared to previously, many killer stopped slugging and just continue to chase the unhooked survivor instead of the one rescuing them.
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@Bullettimegod said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2144409#Comment_2144409
Addon nerfs. Collusin nerfs. Vaulting nerfs.
like i said the nerf is not a lot, its laughably sufficient, her power didnt like this on start but dev gives her buff to make her from okay killer to most nerf needed killer, compared to freddy I still choose her to be nerfed than freddy
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if you compared to the buff she gets it outweight the buff with the nerfs
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@Bullettimegod said:
None. Survivors need to stop whining about this already safe game.
I know people gonna dislike this, but maybe idk not go to where you think spirit is if you believe she is phasing?
Maybe chain tiles instead of using the same thing constantly and complain about slowing down loops?
Maybe remember its 4v1 game. Doing gens beats all. For spirit she is 110. She cant be in 4 places at once. Sure she can phase fast. But thats it. She got nerfed a lot already. And its okay to have strong killers. Just like its okay for swf to exist.
what is spirit nerf a lot ? mind telling me ? since what i see is useless nerf and this is one of the untouched killer for long time
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spirit of course, with stridor she basically has no counter
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wow you camped in basement with trapper and post this thread amazing.
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@lagosta said:
- Buy Headphone.
- Download Equalizer (optional).
- Main Spirit.
- Stand Still.
- Profit.
How hard can it be?
lol best answer so far. if killer say spirit is not easy i wonder how well they play other killer. I also thought i was good at playing killer too until i tried other killer. and judging for that i wont play spirit again.
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she is easy but not as easy as freddy, well after playing her couple of times she is easy to get 4K comparing playing other killers, after playing couple of times you would master her easily. having a great headphones and training could give you exact position on where the survivor is.
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i dont know about other people but mostly in SEA people are toxic so i already lived with it.
I think the way killer doesnt like SWF is they got free kindred skills and they can combine their skills so no one is getting same useless perk twice.
Also majority of SWF that i found are potatoes. usually you could kill 2-4 survivors each time. only sometimes there's a good SWF team, i know i can beat them using spirit, but i prefer using other killer to have more fun.
Bottom line is majority SWF is not as strong as killer said and maybe only 1 in 10 swf you could find really good survivor team. So i think dev do good job in balancing killer and survivors
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@EvilJoshy said:
The problem with taking advice from the community. Most dont care about actual balance. They just want buffs for their side. Theres very few people on these forums that arent bias and its really hard to find them with all the noise.
yeah this is true, even as a killer or survivor i stopped playing OP perks to me and start using fun build instead. If in the end the game doesnt give me thrill to have rewarding 4K or almost died escape as survivor i would be bored easily. I still remember when infinites is still happens and the feeling when you can kill the one abusing it is so rewarding
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coz if the dev listen to this forum, iron will, spine chill, dead hard, sprint burst, borrowed time would get nerfed
meanwhile on killer side BBQ, NoED would got nerfed.
imagine how easy the game would be for killer to win ?
right now they listen to community about DS and DS already useless, I even dont need to check for survivor using DS anymore.
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@Kees_T said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2135040#Comment_2135040
200% of injured noises is like 20 meter of a Survivor my friend. 20 METERS. It's almost a entire terror radius of some Killers. If a Survivor stop running and try to play smart, he can definetely mindgame her.
imagine if 150% on spirit already give spirits unfair advantage. imagine if 200% then actually no need for other tracking skills anymore. I might be back playing spirits again, just to overwhelming all survivors
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@Kees_T said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2132845#Comment_2132845
Actually this is kinda worse for Spirits with Stridor, it's gonna be 100% + 50%(Lucky Break) + 50%(Stridor) = 200%
With 200% of extra grunt of pains, Spirit will hear the groans in a absurd distance, which can allow you to mindgame her better.
since when 200% means mind game better, it just means spirit can more accurately pinpoint the survivor more.
Spirit players would be really happy for this, that basically every counter to her is getting buffed
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we need to change spirit with stridor first, this change will makes spirit more annoying than ever.
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@landromat said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2130143#Comment_2130143
Iron will is top 3 meta perk, lets be honest. And yes. Spirit needs nerfs
the only way i equip iron will is to counter stridor spirit or spirit in general, either make stridor useless on spirit or remove sounds when phasing from spirit then nerf iron will to ground i dont care