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Yeah, Rocket League is like that. When you play competitive, if someone can't load in, match is automatically cancelled and everyone is forced to look for a new match.Claudette_Baguette said:@Vietfox said:
DCers sucks for both killers and survivors, but especially for the remaining survivors.
I won't deny that, some of them DC for really dumb reasons.3v1 games should NEVER be a thing in the first place. If someone DCs during the loading screen put us back into the lobby and let us find another game. They also have to compensate survivors and the killer when someone DCs during a match because that [BAD WORD] everyone over, the survivor team and the killer's BP gain too (some survivors DC to prevent the killer from getting a BBQ stack for example).
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DCers sucks for both killers and survivors, but especially for the remaining survivors.
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We need to tell the difference between improvement and "not so smart suggestions".@PiiFree said:@PinkEricka said:
Why is this post being taken so seriously? Honestly some of y’all are so triggered that it makes yall look SWEATY.please get a life instead of putting so much effort into paragraphs about how SWF is “overpowered” because you’re struggling to adjust to game mechanics.
People try to improve their favourite game and you call it sweaty?

Would you listen to a survivor who claims that noed is op? Because i wouldn't. -
As much as i like you comment i gotta say not all killer mains are like that, FORTUNATELLY.@Michiko said:*OP posts a funny moment with their SWF group*
Killer Mains: you toxic piece of sh**, thats why you suck, learn to play WEH WEH WEH
Seriously you Killer mains are at the bottom of the barrel on nuclear toxic waste. They had a laugh, carry on and go complain about being looped. -
There are many things in this game that can be broken depending on the situation, perks or addons, but that's what makes the game interesting, because if everything was predictable game would be boring.@TheMidnightRidr said:@TheMidnightRidr
@Vietfox I’m sure you are a much stronger killer than Tru3 is and 4K 5 Gen every game. I understand everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but it kind of becomes an issue when someone (you) denies anything and everything said that clashes with what they believe to be true.
Case and point, DS can be an absolutely broken perk. There is little to no way to counter it without the use of other perks, especially for those running it who aren’t the obsession. No perk should ever just give a free escape. At least 2/3 of survivors who hit me with DS think they’re hot ######### for hitting a skill check while their team held M1.
It’s difficult to deny it’s strength and I am still waiting for someone to give a reason as to why it’s such a problem other than “baby killers can’t handle it”. This isn’t just DS. NOED is the same thing the other way around. But that’s a totally different discussion.
Does it suck when i'm playing solo and randoms let Myers get his infinite EW3? Yes, but i just eat it, accept defeat and move on.
The main problem with this community, the loud one at least, is that they expect the game to be the way they want, i just ######### adapt instead.
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What a ######### great movie.@I_am_Negan said:Yeah I'm on a break myself as well. Until news of the next DLC it's RE2 time

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I like to play solo precisely for that extra challenge. Doesn't bother me at all to do what the other ones don't want to do.The_Crusader said:
Small game doesnt work on uncleansed totems. I have no idea how many other survivors have done so now I'm running around with only my eyes again trying to spot cleansed totems well.Vietfox said:
NOED is NOT unfair for solos at all, they just refuse to adapt.The_Crusader said:
What I'm saying is if they're not very good they won't be getting many hooks anyway. Let them at least have the ones they would get, rather than taking it away from them with a free escape perk.Vietfox said:
Right here: "How is this fair on less experienced killers?"@The_Crusader said:
Where did I say that?@Vietfox said:
Since i got here i've kept hearing (or reading), mainly from killer mains, that game should be balanced around good players. Are you telling me that game should be balanced ONLY around good survivors?The_Crusader said:Even if you want to say Tru3 isn't that good, fine. DS still cost him the game. The same is true of every player who isn't that good.
They struggle to get hooks, when they finally get one they have it robbed from them. How is this fair on less experienced killers?
Or is the solution to just bring NOED and hope you aren't against SWF?
It's a rush right now to see who can have the most broken perks.
Gimme a [BAD WORD] break
In the same way NOED is unfair on solo survivors when there is no indication of which unlit totems are cleansed.
End of the day whether it's on here, reddit, youtube videos etc the two most common topics of discussion are NOED and DS. Seems both perks are villified. I'd love to see a trial on the ptb where both perks are disabled and see how the games go and if they're more fun.
Small game is part of my solo build for a very good reason, mainly because randoms don't care about totems.
Plus why does 1 survivor have to do all totems? It gives a huge advantage to the killer having 1 zurvivor off gens.
Its something thats 1000 times easier for swf, and when there is such a huge penalty if you dont cleanse them then yeah it's an issue. -
I never run DS, except for the memes and when i got the daily of being chased as X survivor for 2 minutes (i main Feng). I don't like one time use or end game perks (except adrenaline).@Roobnus said:@Vietfox in other words, you'd say that DC is only allowed for players that need handholding. Players that lack the skill to be otherwise successful?
So, your suggestion would be to deny certain perks from being used once you reach a specific skill bracket? Or do you plan on stopping high skilled players from using DS?
It's not like no high skill player uses DS. Some players specificly use it BECAUSE it's broken, not because they need it.
I got used to do well without it, same as a killer without ruin or noed.
If DS was that good i would run it all the time, but i don't.
I've said it many times, if 4 DS is a problem then increase the wiggle progress needed for each survivor running DS (10 or 15%), problem solved. -
If they suck they are easy to be downed in no time againThe_Crusader said:
But plenty of good players still use DS. There's no requirement that you need to suck in order to use it.Vietfox said:
Good swf just need 1 DS, 2 at most. 4 DS is a clear sign that they suck.@Roobnus said:@Vietfox said:
Yes i do realize about that, but if we keep going this way we are gonna give enough tools to mediocre killers to be able to defeat good survivors. I wouldn't call that balance.Not necessarily, no.
I'd say current balance is like this:
Low skilled Killers > Low Skilled Survivors
Mid skilled Killers = Mid skilled Survivors
High skilled Killers < high skilled SurvivorsAnticipated balance is this:
Low skilled Killers = Low Skilled Survivors
Mid skilled Killers = Mid skilled Survivors
High skilled Killers = high skilled SurvivorsEach skill bracket is balanced.
If we balance around high skilled players, people always expect it to look like this:
Low skilled Killers >> Low Skilled Survivors
Mid skilled Killers > Mid skilled Survivors
High skilled Killers = high skilled SurvivorsThat doesn't have to be the case. No one says we had to screw over the balance for the low and mid skilled players, it should totally be balanced in those skill brackets aswell BUT I say the core balance, the benchmark should be aimed at high rank players because they play the game in an optimal and efficient way. Others make too many mistakes, lack the skill and experience to truly make use of certain mechanics ect, it's hard to consider such things when you want to balance. You look at rough power of perks and mechanics without considering human failure, that's an optimal playstyle and if both sides play optimally, that should lead to a balanced match.
And to be a bit more related to OP: If you consider that, you'll find out that DS, in the hand of high skilled survivors, is indeed too strong. You can handle 1 or 2 but 4? No. Either limit DS for just the obsession and find a weaker alternative for non-obsession (weaker regarding it's effect) or completly rework it.
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NOED is NOT unfair for solos at all, they just refuse to adapt.The_Crusader said:
What I'm saying is if they're not very good they won't be getting many hooks anyway. Let them at least have the ones they would get, rather than taking it away from them with a free escape perk.Vietfox said:
Right here: "How is this fair on less experienced killers?"@The_Crusader said:
Where did I say that?@Vietfox said:
Since i got here i've kept hearing (or reading), mainly from killer mains, that game should be balanced around good players. Are you telling me that game should be balanced ONLY around good survivors?The_Crusader said:Even if you want to say Tru3 isn't that good, fine. DS still cost him the game. The same is true of every player who isn't that good.
They struggle to get hooks, when they finally get one they have it robbed from them. How is this fair on less experienced killers?
Or is the solution to just bring NOED and hope you aren't against SWF?
It's a rush right now to see who can have the most broken perks.
Gimme a [BAD WORD] break
In the same way NOED is unfair on solo survivors when there is no indication of which unlit totems are cleansed.
End of the day whether it's on here, reddit, youtube videos etc the two most common topics of discussion are NOED and DS. Seems both perks are villified. I'd love to see a trial on the ptb where both perks are disabled and see how the games go and if they're more fun.
Small game is part of my solo build for a very good reason, mainly because randoms don't care about totems.
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Good swf just need 1 DS, 2 at most. 4 DS is a clear sign that they suck.@Roobnus said:@Vietfox said:
Yes i do realize about that, but if we keep going this way we are gonna give enough tools to mediocre killers to be able to defeat good survivors. I wouldn't call that balance.Not necessarily, no.
I'd say current balance is like this:
Low skilled Killers > Low Skilled Survivors
Mid skilled Killers = Mid skilled Survivors
High skilled Killers < high skilled SurvivorsAnticipated balance is this:
Low skilled Killers = Low Skilled Survivors
Mid skilled Killers = Mid skilled Survivors
High skilled Killers = high skilled SurvivorsEach skill bracket is balanced.
If we balance around high skilled players, people always expect it to look like this:
Low skilled Killers >> Low Skilled Survivors
Mid skilled Killers > Mid skilled Survivors
High skilled Killers = high skilled SurvivorsThat doesn't have to be the case. No one says we had to screw over the balance for the low and mid skilled players, it should totally be balanced in those skill brackets aswell BUT I say the core balance, the benchmark should be aimed at high rank players because they play the game in an optimal and efficient way. Others make too many mistakes, lack the skill and experience to truly make use of certain mechanics ect, it's hard to consider such things when you want to balance. You look at rough power of perks and mechanics without considering human failure, that's an optimal playstyle and if both sides play optimally, that should lead to a balanced match.
And to be a bit more related to OP: If you consider that, you'll find out that DS, in the hand of high skilled survivors, is indeed too strong. You can handle 1 or 2 but 4? No. Either limit DS for just the obsession and find a weaker alternative for non-obsession (weaker regarding it's effect) or completly rework it.
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Right here: "How is this fair on less experienced killers?"@The_Crusader said:
Where did I say that?@Vietfox said:
Since i got here i've kept hearing (or reading), mainly from killer mains, that game should be balanced around good players. Are you telling me that game should be balanced ONLY around good survivors?The_Crusader said:Even if you want to say Tru3 isn't that good, fine. DS still cost him the game. The same is true of every player who isn't that good.
They struggle to get hooks, when they finally get one they have it robbed from them. How is this fair on less experienced killers?
Or is the solution to just bring NOED and hope you aren't against SWF?
It's a rush right now to see who can have the most broken perks.
Gimme a [BAD WORD] break -
Yes i do realize about that, but if we keep going this way we are gonna give enough tools to mediocre killers to be able to defeat good survivors. I wouldn't call that balance.@Roobnus said:@Vietfox said:
Pleas read again:Players = both killers and survivors
Survivors = only survivorsDo you really need more clues?
Do you realize that "balance" indicates the power gap between two (or more) sides or mechanics, in this case Survivors and Killers?
You can't balance Survivors without considering the Killers, otherwise it wouldn't be balanced.
If people say balance the game around high skill survivors Survivors, it means that high skill survivors should be the ones that set the benchmark for "balance" and everything needs to be adjusted to match up with that.
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Pleas read again:Roobnus said:Let me conclude this quickly:
@Vietfox said:
Since i got here i've kept hearing (or reading), mainly from killer mains, that game should be balanced around good players. Are you telling me that game should be balanced ONLY around good survivors?@Bbbrian2013 said:
Yes. Yes we are.@Vietfox said:
Thanks for proving that killer mains like you (not every killer main) just want easy games then.Summarize:
-> Are you telling me that the game should be balanced only around good survivors?-> Yes
-> In that case you're a Killer main that just want's easy wins.
Please explain to me how asking for balance in high rank has ANYTHING to do with
- being a killer main
- wanting easy wins
If that's not biased, what else is it? There is absolutely no relation to either Killer main nor easy wins, it's just a straight clear statement that they want the game to be balanced around high rank players (and so do I).
I don't care what your 3600 comments tell, the fact is that you posts of people you believe are Killer mains and twist their argument into killer / survivor discussions or about how Killers just want easy wins while the original point has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Players = both killers and survivors
Survivors = only survivors
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If that's the reason then i'm all down for it, but that means SB should be changed accordingly to the new changes.@Bravo0413 said:
This /\ @Vietfox ..... its unfun, unenjoyable just like the old blind..... players know that shadow born doesnt necessarily need to be base and because someone says that they find the fov unenjoyable does not mean they are bad or that player isnt "good"... most people the community know that the fov needs changing simply because its just like the old blind.Plu said:I use M&A on most of my killers because otherwise i get motion sick because of the overly narrow FOV myself.
I really would like a FOV slider in this game, and yes i know that a small FOV is kinda needed to "balance" killers but i'm pretty sure we can find a sweet spot to make it less nausea inducing to some people.
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Feel free to check my 3600 comments you mentioned before and see how i was against many of the survivors buffs proposed.@Roobnus said:@Vietfox said:
Thanks for proving that killer mains like you (not every killer main) just want easy games then.You're incredibly biased with that mindset.
If Killers want easy wins but Survivors don't, why are they so afraid of Killer buffs?
I could agree with you now and say: "Yes, Killer want easy wins!"
If you as Survivor don't care about that, you'd say: "Alright, you can get easy wins then because I don't care about that!".
The fact that Survivors are so afraid of Killer buffs proves that they in fact don't want harder matches. If anything, they want to maintain their easy wins.
Also people who know me well know that i've proposed buffs for killers as well, but don't let that ruin your day. -
Just because you feel uncomfortable with the game design doesnt mean that perk is strictly necessary. Good killers can do well with the default FOV.@Bravo0413 said:
Ah hell yeah a game where you need to run a perk just to enjoy your FOV... this is just the logic we need LUL...@Vietfox said:Then keep running shadowborn. -
Thanks for proving that killer mains like you (not every killer main) just want easy games then.@Bbbrian2013 said:@Vietfox said:
The_Crusader said:Even if you want to say Tru3 isn't that good, fine. DS still cost him the game. The same is true of every player who isn't that good.
They struggle to get hooks, when they finally get one they have it robbed from them. How is this fair on less experienced killers?
Or is the solution to just bring NOED and hope you aren't against SWF?
It's a rush right now to see who can have the most broken perks.
Since i got here i've kept hearing (or reading), mainly from killer mains, that game should be balanced around good players. Are you telling me that game should be balanced ONLY around good survivors?
Gimme a [BAD WORD] breakYes. Yes we are.
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Then keep running shadowborn.
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Since i got here i've kept hearing (or reading), mainly from killer mains, that game should be balanced around good players. Are you telling me that game should be balanced ONLY around good survivors?The_Crusader said:Even if you want to say Tru3 isn't that good, fine. DS still cost him the game. The same is true of every player who isn't that good.
They struggle to get hooks, when they finally get one they have it robbed from them. How is this fair on less experienced killers?
Or is the solution to just bring NOED and hope you aren't against SWF?
It's a rush right now to see who can have the most broken perks.
Gimme a ######### break -
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Her fault for not reloading hatchets after downing the obsession. That was a noob mistake.@Laakeri said:I used DS once as I didnt have decent perk after prestiging and it was similar situation, walmart DS vs Huntress that lost all of her pressure cuz she didnt get more hatchets before picking me up. Switched to Small Game 1 or something after that as I felt so disgusted of what just happened.
True lolLaakeri said:Off Topic: Everyone that has more than 10 hours in this game know Tru3 is not as good as his popularity makes him seem to.
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Mistakes are always punished as long as the other one knows how to take advantage from them, if they can't then they aren't good enough. There's the logic.@ThirdSealOPplzNerf said:@Vietfox said:
@The_Crusader @GraviteaUK
If you guys want to prove how to balance the game around good players then you shouldn't use Tru3's videos, simple as that.
Every single one of them posted on this forum he made several mistakes.So he's suppose to be a perfect robot and make no mistakes but survivors can make 10 mistakes and still live because of their broken perks and items? Right nice logic once again.
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Doesn't take long to see Tru3 screwing up.The_Crusader said:@Vietfox Well the video lasts over 8 minutes and you posted 6 minutes after me so you didn't watch it all and I'd bet that you didn't watch more than 30 seconds.
I agree, but whenever a survivor complains about a killer thing everyone seems to agree (me included) that it was their fault.The_Crusader said:
Nobody plays perfect all the time.
Long chase because he's just an ok player, not a good one.The_Crusader said:Fact is he was going to get a basement hook as trapper - which is huge. Survivor denied that, got a free escape, and tru3 got no hook after a lengthy chase - which was huge for the survivors.
There is no argument to be had. Decisive Strike cost him that game. Had that not happened things would have been massivey different. One perk should not be able to affect the outcome of the game that much.
Before people cry "but noed!", i don't like noed either.
I don't have any problem with noed, it can stay. -
@The_Crusader @GraviteaUK
If you guys want to prove how to balance the game around good players then you shouldn't use Tru3's videos, simple as that.
Every single one of them posted on this forum he made several mistakes. -
And people keep using Tru3's videos as an example, hilarious.
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Really smart, props for you 😂@George_Soros said:@fluffybunny said:
@George_Soros said:
Vietfox said:She's not indeed. I like her.
I like her too.
Despite her being ugly.Don't make her glare at you.
Never. I'd turn into stone.
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I would say McDonalds wifi is worse.@e8Lattice said:If your playing from a tin shack on dialup in Romania, just don't.
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Yeah same, mainly because of lobbydodgers. So i take the wise Cote's advice and go play something else.
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Few people tend to be more organized than lots of people.@PhantomMask20763 said:
Dang!!! I feel like that's honestly few people for such a popular and successful game.Bravo0413 said:As far I remember in a stream like a year ago there was a total of........... 75 people? And I think that's just working on DBD...there is another team working on Death Garden -
Sometimes you see another survivor close to the trapped one or maybe you don't have enough time to hook someone, that's when slugging is better than getting a single hook. It's like when survivors don't waste time on healing and do gens instead.@Coriander said:I don't understand what you mean. The trap injures them anyway. If you strike them while they're trapped, or if you strike them once they're free, they go down either way.
Actually, I hate seeing killers attack the trapped victim. You get only 200pts for the strike, but 500pts for pulling them out of the trap with the action button.
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I say they collect parts to build a ladder and gtho of there, ######### gens.
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Too bad your IQ doesn't let you to understand that you got perks and tactics to "fix" that.ThirdSealOPplzNerf said:@Vietfox said:
@ThirdSealOPplzNerf said:@SailedSavage said:
Let's have them take out hatch for a week. Watch how many people beg for it back when survivors hide around the map for 30 minutes and you DC out if boredom or anger. Hatch ends the game one way or another. You 4k hungry killers are part of what is wrong with this game and well as camping survivors who don't work on gens just waiting for hatch to spawn. If I destroy a team I give the last guy hatch out of good sport and remind them ITS JUST.A.GAME. Play and move on
People like you who defend a broken mechanic like the hatch is what's wrong with the game. the hatch gets removed and the aura of the last survivor is revealed.
I got a better idea, instead of revealing the aura the last survivor teleports to you so you don't even need to walk, just hit. Or even better, last survivor instantly dies, since you are asking for extremely easy games...
I never asked for that. I just asked to not be robbed of a 4k from a broken mechanic but your low IQ brain can't understand that.
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I think HL is fine as it is right now, we just need better totem placement AND to remove the HL notification when hitting a skill check.
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Not only that, i've played as Leatherface in red ranks with no addons. Had to M1 all the time, no way you can catch good survivors with the chainsaw and no addons.@George_Soros said:
Well, we can have some understanding towards people who cannot stand teabagging. You played Leatherface much, didn't you Vietfox? It kinda sucks when you utterly fail and have to suffer the sight of that cheeky Claudette shaking her ass in exit area... I used to be so pissed about it at some point@Vietfox said:
I couldn't agree more with you.@George_Soros said:
You seem to have a somewhat distorted view on reality.jackalmilenko said:I play both killer and survivor equally. One thing I despise are campers but I know sometimes a killer won't have a choice. Tbh, the only time I camp are on those that ask for it, especially when survivors spam the crouch as a distraction. This is really obnoxious, and I think crouching should have a short cool down duration before being used. Thoughts?
"Obnoxious", you say. Tell you what. 44 years ago, when my mother got pregnant with her first child, a disgusting, old and creepy neighbour said "pregnant eh? Too bad it's not from me, hehe".
THAT is obnoxious. Survivors tapping CTRL, aka teabagging... just no. It's really nothing.
Looks like some people here were born and raised in a bubble of marshmallows till they turned 18 or so.
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Oh yeah, one survivor perk i would love to see getting buffed is Technician.@PhantomMask20763 said:
Yeah, but I feel as if there are still some things that need to be touched up on the survivor side such as less used perks, perhaps take a look at the hitboxes because they seem really weird. I dont know if its latency or just actual hits. I was playing my Dwight the other day against a Hillbilly and I ran to a pallet and I dropped it but the hillbilly still chainsawed me even though I dropped the D A R N thing. Was most likely latency but it was a really weird chainsaw hit@Vietfox said:
You mean to buff solo survivors? I personally think they are in a good spot already, i like the extra challenge of playing solo too.@PhantomMask20763 said:I was agreeing with you until you said killers are OP. No killer is truly OP right now aside from Nurse and MAYBE hillbilly. The game is in a pretty good spot right now. We just need a few tweaks to make it better for both sides INCLUDING some survivor buffs
About hitboxes that would be a fix not a buff, but yeah i think it's mostly because of latency. We'll see once we get dedicated servers.
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You mean to buff solo survivors? I personally think they are in a good spot already, i like the extra challenge of playing solo too.@PhantomMask20763 said:I was agreeing with you until you said killers are OP. No killer is truly OP right now aside from Nurse and MAYBE hillbilly. The game is in a pretty good spot right now. We just need a few tweaks to make it better for both sides INCLUDING some survivor buffs -
Yes, point at those useless survivors, i do that whenever i find one of them.
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Op said BACK to 30 minutes lobby, so i'm assuming op is talking about killer queues.@Tsulan said:Just play killer? -
I got a better idea, instead of revealing the aura the last survivor teleports to you so you don't even need to walk, just hit. Or even better, last survivor instantly dies, since you are asking for extremely easy games...@ThirdSealOPplzNerf said:@SailedSavage said:
Let's have them take out hatch for a week. Watch how many people beg for it back when survivors hide around the map for 30 minutes and you DC out if boredom or anger. Hatch ends the game one way or another. You 4k hungry killers are part of what is wrong with this game and well as camping survivors who don't work on gens just waiting for hatch to spawn. If I destroy a team I give the last guy hatch out of good sport and remind them ITS JUST.A.GAME. Play and move onPeople like you who defend a broken mechanic like the hatch is what's wrong with the game. the hatch gets removed and the aura of the last survivor is revealed.
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Huntress.
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If camping is getting on your nerves you havent played enough DbD.
Don't get me wrong, it's a ######### tactic (except when survivor fall for it) but best thing to do is to accept defeat and move on to the next match. -
Not for me, i like women with short hair@Rebel_Raven said:I like Nea. Her hair cuts are ugly, though. *ducks*
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She's not indeed. I like her.
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Nothing wrong with that. Way better than survivors sending hate messages i would say.@XavierBoah17 said:Instead its a bunch of drunkards laughing. -
First we need the optimization patch for consoles before allowing cross-platform.
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