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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/355095#Comment_355095
Are you saying people don't get rusty?
Sure but if you spent over 1000 progressing your account... do you think you are new?.... Should you still be grouped up with new people? nah. i dont think so anyways.. at some point i think there should be no way for a new player ever to face a veteran player (rusty or not) unless the game population tanks, in which case it won't really matter anyways.
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What is the ranking system ranking?.... People seem to think it is about skill.
What is wrong with a player, who hasn't played in 2 seasons coming back after resets and has over 1000 hour of progression on their account, coming back in and playing at rank 19 or 20? They aren't new.. but hey I don't see the issue /s
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Don't forget that you can disable the end game chat if it bothers you too much.
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@Detective_Jonathan said:
I just came from a game where a meg was doing nothing but gens and crouching, she didn't even have Urban Evasion on but she crouched everywhere she went, and she was rank 3, i am actually hoping they do something about this, because you shouldn't be able to do just gens and get out, crouch everywhere and still be able to pip, a play-style like that doesn't belong in red ranks. Period, you can argue till your face turn blue, it just isn't fun.
Except the emblem system shouldn't punish stealth players. It shouldn't also force you to get into a chase because the killer wasn't able to find you. It is like saying the killer is bad and couldn't find you, so you lose out because of that.
Basically what you are trying to say is.. .That survivor is bad since the killer wasn't able to find them and they should be punished for it.
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@artist said:
question to the people who think u should get all points from the survivor that dc'd, why do u feel u deserve an easier pip if someone disconnected making the game 10x easier? wouldnt it support rank not being a good representation of skill? (I still feel that way) at most u should get a black pip if someone dc'd early
Based on what you ask, the answer I would come back with is.. What is the point of playing that match?
Once a survivor DCs, they screwed you on the emblems, why bother playing it. Sure get some points and get out and move on. However if your intention is to rank up and the moment you get screwed out of it, why continue?
People say rank doesn't mean much but once you get screwed out of a reward from the match.. it ruins it. Doesn't matter if you could get a white pip or not, when not allowed to continue to "win" then why bother.
If everytime you play you get a survivor that DCs and prevents you from getting a white pip.. how long will that wear you down mentally when the game is constantly telling you that you lost because they DC'd.
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Yeah you don't hook all 4 survivors at least once in the red ranks, you might aswell pack your bags, cause you'll be lucky to black pip. You don't hook them at least twice each you might aswell stop.
Then if you are survivor... If the killer only made a few hooks... Forget it aswell... Killer never finds you cause you like stealth?.. Forget it. There is no stealthing in red ranks if you want to pip, you have to be chased at some point, or basically stay in the killer radius hiding the whole match.
As survivor, the killer needs to run a perfect match for more then 1 survivor to white pip in the match, if they don't every survivor in the match will be lucky to black pip.
If the survivors play too well against the killer, they hurt the team, since nobody will earn enough emblem points.
Then if the survivors say.. ######### it... and don't save anyone and let the killer start hooking them all to kill em... They just screwed over the killer and forced them to depip.
LULS
Love it!
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It will be interesting if these changes go in... I like the idea of people being put into their proper ranks... but will they?
What will be the point if you reach rank 7.. Then the Devs open up match making for red ranks cause their isn't enough players in it, and you start being matched up against rank 3 killers. This will completely defeat the purpose and show how dumb the system is.
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@JawsIsTheNextKiller said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/353110#Comment_353110
The new matchmaking system seems to be matching people from a wider range of ranks. I wonder if they are experimenting with what to do if there is nobody available at your rank.
Which completely defeats the purpose of making those changes. If you make it harder for people to rank up.. then open up match making to look at a wider range, then the system is already broken.
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Nah.. and the rank reset is gonna be even more of a ######### show.. can't wait till that happens this month.. I hope they get those changes in before it happens.
And ... The higher you go.. the less people.. so good luck in match making :)
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The issue, as I see it, is the conflict between the idea of what the ranking system is, and what the emblem system is meant to do.
People want the ranking system to be a measure of skill.. and the Devs made an emblem system as a tool to guide playstyles for both sides. These two ideas don't mesh together and it is being shown with those changes in the PTB.
Basically the Devs are saying unless you play in these sorts of ways you aren't skillful. So like your example above, you killed 4 players, but cause it wasn't fun for the other side, it wasn't skillful. The survivors handed you the match. Isn't that a discouraging system? That is why this system isn't a "skill" based system. They need to stop treating it like it is.
You as a killer are penalized on how the survivors play and you as a survivor are penalized on how the killer plays. So how can you measure your skill when your skill requires skill from the other player? It doesn't add up.
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nah... Probably from a week ago... It would be nice if they could announce when they are gonna do that copy. Hate going into PTB with no BP. Makes no point in even trying the PTB when that happens..
I personally don't like the idea of having to grind for a few hours to do some testing. I would rather wait till release then.
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I think this is their goal.. imo.
With each chapter bringing in 3 perks per side.. 9 levels per character... The grind is starting to get back to the earlier days. It makes it difficult for new players to enter in.
I think at some point the Devs are gonna strip out an entire tier or remove the tiered system.
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@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/350705#Comment_350705
"Balance Adjustment: The Killer now gains an audio notification when Jane Romero crouches in rapid succession."
chitty chitty bang bang
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The New Chapter brings forth the T-Bagging Queen. I can't wait till killers get triggered by Jane T-Bagging them... might actually make that enjoyable :P
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I like the ups and downs myself... Sometimes you have some amazing games.. others times not. Too me.. if every game leveled off emotionally I would get bored. I like to get excited about a good win and get mad on a lose. The emotional roller coaster is what brings me back to this game over and over.
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Yeah interesting... BR like someone mentioned.. battle royale... Weird though since why pull up Fog Whispers to talk about Death Garden.... unless maybe they integrated dead by daylight world into Death Gardens. IDK.. interesting to hear what it will all be about if anything.
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@poopman said:
Hiding the name wouldn't change a thing, they would have to completely change Steam's way of interacting with the game, as you can just open your steam overlay and navigate to "last seen players" or whatever it's called and it gives you a list of all the players you've been playing with.
It's never gonna happen, keep dreaming lel
Sorry... Devs already did this. If you ever play killer you'd know. First.. Survivors can't see who is in the lobby anymore by checking steam. Also, killers can't see who is on the recent players list... Since they are interacting with Steam in that way. Only survivors can see that right now.
If the streamer has such a ######### community that they are willing witch hunt even after you tell them not too.. and they should know better anyways... Then it is time for that streamer to get a new community and grow up, since they foster and attact the community they want.
Removing the names won't stop snipping if people are trying to get into your lobby as a streamer. The streamer can do things to prevent people from going into their lobby if they really want to. Also the streamer has video backup of the matches if those snipers grief.
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mmmm... You can still tunnel.... The big question is.. If that survivor is running DS...
So take enduring now if you are a tunneler... Cause all you do is pick them up after you hit them back down after being unhooked and burn out their DS... chase them down again and hook them again.. done... What is the difference if you had to chase them after being unhooked or letting them burn their DS after being unhooked and tunneling them again..
Seems allot like the same thing to me. I don't see the issue. Cause you have to waste a few more seconds to burn the DS?
Why not hit the unhooked down... Then go after the unhooker... 2 people not on a gen... Then the 3rd has to get off a gen and go for and heal the other off the floor.
So what is the issue again?
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I don't think anything other then the DS rework.. and some totem reworking is gonna be in there. They mentioned a couple of things near the end of the stream, sounded like some general balance changes. If leaderboards and stats are happening it won't be until dedicated servers are out.
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Sounds like a good idea... how about changing that idea.. to per survivor.
So... Any survivor affected by ruin, will face 8 skill checks on the generator, at any given point of progression.
Meaning... If the generator is 50% completed before that survivor works on the gen, they will face 8 skill check through that remainder of the progression.
Then... That 8 skill check counter, resets everytime the survivor stops working on the gen.
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@NMCKE said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/348035#Comment_348035
Reread OP. This is just a prediction.
With solutions.... You're talking about what you think are possible problems and your possible solutions...
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haha
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Probably gonna be today or hell is gonna freeze over..
They brought up some of the Fog Whispers to their office... I remember being in one of their streams when they mentioned something about tuesday doing a streaming thing...
So I'm guessing...
BHVR is gonna drop the PTB and it will be a play with the Fog Whispers event going on aswell... Otherwise what is the point of bring them up there.. to tell them about some info they could have email to them?... Seems like allot of money to spend to bring up some people and tell them some secrets then send them packing.
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Could be some funny tricks that could be played on the killer with SWF.. if anything I see this perk being used for bullying and meme only.
I can't see a survivor making much use out of this perk. How often do you get picked out of lockers... very rare.
If anything... that perk just be something that is already part of the game, like the pallet stuns.
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Why is there people trying to purpose changes based on info from the Dev stream?
They didn't even release all the little details yet... but people think there needs to be changes????... OK
Lets play the PTB first can't we?
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Hey... I'm trying to throw doubt out there.. don't say that.
Yeah in a couple of responses in the QA it says on the PTB.. but what I first seen that post though. .. it felt like it was worded as... "This is the new change to DS.. and this will be in the next update.".. Nothing about the PTB until some responses in the QA.
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I bet there is no PTB on this chapter....
Why have the Fog Whispers there for a PTB launch?.....No adding up.
Launch trailer comes out today...
Tomorrow is launch day.
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Like what Mister said... What if there is no PTB... So far I think everyone is assuming their is a PTB. PTB was updated last week... (someone noticed this and mentioned it on the steam forums).. but have the Devs said this chapter was going onto the PTB?
It could be very possible that the release is tomorrow and their is no PTB. That could be why the Fog Whispers are there today... Doing last minute tweaking before releasing it tomorrow. Cause why listen to the community when you have sort of community heads with the Streamers, since a big portion of the community watch them. So just ask the heads, since they actually play more then most players.
It is very possible tomorrow is the actual Launch and there is no PTB coming out. And tomorrow will be a Play with the Fog Whispers event.
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So The Plague is a new mechanic in the game??.. Doesn't look like it is her special power..
nice this was my 666'th post... until I edited it.. doh.
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So The Plague I take it is a new mechanic in the game?... I don't think that it is her killer power.
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Look at those legs.. gotta love that wrinkly knee.
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Depends on how you look at it I guess.. If 3 others died... and the hatch is actually up for the survivor to escape.. Then enough was done, doesn't matter who did it. It isn't about who is the better survivor, it is 4 survivors trying to survive. The other 3 didn't make it.
But doesn't mean the killer should get a free kill. So the survivor does enough based on your criteria, but still has to find and escape out the hatch?... Where the killer will just get the free kill if they didn't do enough?.... Sorry doesn't add up for me.
There is nothing saying that the final survivor, could get 2 gens done and escape out of the hatch, if the criteria wasn't met initially. So why do they get penalized for their teammates not doing enough? Maybe that final survivor was doing some saving all that time trying to keep the other 3 alive, but no gens got done. So they get rewarded for getting auto killed at the end?
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It isn't about "earning" the escape.. It is about the killer preventing them from escaping. Right now the killer can't really prevent the survivor from escaping out of the hatch unless they get lucky.
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I still love how people measure themselves in this game based on rank and think getting to rank 1 means your supposed to be good at this game. I know that hurts some people's feelings on that, but rank 1 isn't that big of a deal other then getting the achievement.
Rank should really have a different name since that is what confuses people the most.
THERE ARE KILLERS WHO CAN ONE SHOT YOU THE WHOLE MATCH... yet people seem so upset when they get one-shotted by a 2-hit killer cause they didn't make it out at the end. Cause getting camped at the end rather then the beginning means the others can just leave you there to die instead of worrying about working on gens.
But cause the player takes a hill billy and didn't use their chainsaw very well, but then has noed and one shots a couple of survivors down at the end makes a huge difference. Why cause you couldn't dodge the M1 as easy as the M2? Yet there is still counter play to preventing the one shot on the M1.... So how is that any different, just cause every killer can get a one shot ability?
Anyways... All these NOED posts are funny AF!
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I guess all the one shot killers who have noed all match need to be nerf'ed too.
Crappy thing to learn to play against it kind of like how you play against Hill Billy. You know Billy can one shot you the whole match right?
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Cause people who attend will get an "exclusive" for being present.
It is a way of engaging more with their playerbase, by encouraging people to attend their events more for the chance for "exclusives".
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I wouldn't touch Jason with a 10 foot pole now, since that lawsuit.
Who knows what else could come up because of that... Jason is a risk at this point. One company placed a bet on the F13 franchise and got the shaft for it, I wouldn't dare go down that path.
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Maybe the hanging censors are a secondary objective as mentioned above. Maybe the killer starts of really powerful, but disabling the censors it lowers the killers power.
I think the censor the killer has, is their weapon. It is attached to a long chain, so thinking a whip style of attack that pulls the survivor to the killer. So the killer is gonna be slow like the nurse.
Then all the fog.. so I think the stronger the fog on the map, will help the killer move around, either by teleporting or just increases their walking speed in general.
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OK thanks....
Another player doesn't see where you are coming from or is trolling and calls you a name and you can't convince them otherwise so make a forum post about it cause they purposely DC'd.... Like many others before them.
You know, unless that person exceeds the DC threshold from the Devs, they aren't going to be banned for it.
Because they were streamers.. ahh... cause streamers aren't allowed to rage quit.
Hey... I know some streamer players that will DC when they get a certain map.. and they have BHVR devs in their chat all the time.... What makes you think they will do anything about your ego issue?
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They won't make changes to nurse until they get the balance of SWF to killer the way they want.
IMO.
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Everything probably drops on Monday.. PTB.. New Fog Whispers...
They gonna have a play with whispers on PTB event i bet... Where they will be giving out cosmetic codes...
Or the event will be Fog Whispers vs Devs which would be funny as hell.
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@Gorgonia said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/341841#Comment_341841
Last Year did that already, why copy them?
I didn't really pay much attention to Last Year cause it didn't look interesting. Who cares anyways?... This is DBD. I don't think many at all from the DBD crowd gave a ######### about that game when it came out.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it uses the mist. I figure it would be a way of traveling faster. Also probably if darker mist offerings are put out, they travel even faster.
Then the censer has a big chain on it... So I'm thinking of a whip attack that has some range too it, and on a successful hit, it pulls the survivor to the killer.
I bet it will move as slow as the nurse, old man pedo priest can't be running around.
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I think they will use the fog to travel faster on the map... and the censor is used for a whip attack that pulls the survivor to the killer.
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@Peasant said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/341640#Comment_341640
Think about it though, faith can mean more that just religious devotion. Faith can mean trust as well. "Have faith in your fellow surviviors".
"But nothing will help them, not even faith."
This killer's power will be shape shifting as they make it harder for you to have faith in your allies.
Plus, why else would they use so much fog/smoke? The smoke is part of a saying: "smoke and mirrors". A phrase commonly associated with illusions.
If the killer is a shape shifter I will be VERY interested into how this power affects Bond.
Nah you are reading too much into it. They don't have a killer yet that uses the fog. I think it will use the fog as a way to travel faster.... then the censer is a whip attack that can pull the survivor to the killer.
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oof... so a killer who uses the fog to travel fast and then the censer as a whip... nice.
Killer with a whip style of attack... it might even pull the survivor back to the killer.
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Cause the Devs want survivors to go for the big pay out of 5K escape through the gate.. Rather then lowering it, and make it so survivors can score more during the match instead.
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@Delfador said:
I don't think so, next weeks streamers are going to Canada so most probably something related to that.I think we are gonna get another teaser today and the PTB next week.
yee probably.. Probably gonna have some play with these streamer event thingy.. but should be interesting to find out why they hauling them all up there.
I think the PTB might be today.. someone on the steam forums who say they watch when the Devs do updates, said the PTB was updated this morning, and that this usually only happens when the PTB is about to be released.
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Probably doing a special stream after they drop PTB today. They need to do some hand holding for the DS change.
Could also be the point were they might announce testing of the new dedicated servers.
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They should just do what PACMAN does and put portals on each side of the map that players can use to get to the otherside fast.