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Why would you buff an already meta perk ? BT timer used to go down against any killer before Legion patch and nobody complained about this perk being too weak. It's fine if certain killers counter BT, especially when these even aren't the top tier ones.
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@TheUnendingNightmare said:
Those are not even new statuses...
Undetectable is a slightly buffed version of Myers stalk, that now if I'm not mistaken, all stalking killer uses.
Oblivious was the old Pig stalk. Which has a stalk mode was weak af but is really strong has a status. I personnaly don't mind has this just mean more diverse killer pool for us higher up.
Right now, Demogorgon is the only one with Undetectable status effect on his power. Demogorgon and Freddy are also the only ones with Oblivious status effect on their kit.
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Spine Chill shouldn't be affected by these status effects, devs confirmed it.
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@thesuicidefox said:
Freddy was in a good spot after his rework. He didn't need this.
The Oblivious effect also negatively affects him since now some perks are useless on him, such as Unnerving which was useless prior to his rework too, and is no useless again.
This new status is a bad decision. Just nerf OOO we don't need this.
Unnerving Presence is useless by its own, the only good terror radius based perk for killers is Infectious Fright and Freddy didn't benefit from this perk as much as other killers already.
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@Tizzle said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/698031#Comment_698031
Strategy??? Borrowed Time was implemented to stop a Killer from camping BEFORE Killers could remove their terror radius EXCEPT WITH INSIDIOUS ANOTHER PERK, not their base power. Apparently you haven't played this game very long.
You didn't play this game for very long because Wraith could always remove his TR as base power.
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Bamboozle is much better than Cruel Limits. Cruel Limits is really bad.
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There is still DS. And the timer is still long enough to escape through exit gates if BT procs in end game. And yes, it's an intended change.
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@Atrushan88 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/699433#Comment_699433
Those killers, barring Tier 1 Myers, generally cannot use those abilities while camping. Tier 1 Myers though even has a 6M TR, meaning he is denied this possibility as well. Overall, "stealth killers" are denied this as well. A Pig isn't gonna crouch while camping and be able to be accurate enough to hit the unhooked if the survivors play it right, and her ambush has a delay. A GhostFace will be denied his shroud before he gets a chance to use it against BT.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/699419#Comment_699419
While you say this, BT itself is a perk as a band-aid fix to counter unhealthy "game mechanics", as is DS. That band-aid fix is being removed for Freddy. I'd rather survivors within a chase for 10 seconds be put to sleep automatically rather than this.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/699404#Comment_699404
Try impossible.
You forgot Wraith.
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Right now, just Demogorgon has Undetectable status effect. The other killers, perks and add-ons will get it later, as confirmed by devs.
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@SaltySwag said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/697841#Comment_697841
For real.
Don't get me wrong, survivors only got one good perk really in Fixate, but at least they got one.
Inner Strength is also good.
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Yeah, all of Demo's perks are lackluster. Surge might be decent on a slugging Nurse build on a small map, otherwise, you are better using Pop, while Cruel Limits and Mindbreaker are completely trash.
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@Hoodied said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/697458#Comment_697458
I didn't say they would change them, I said would we get a dog in the tribe
Probably not, Demo doesn't have as much chase potential and map pressure as those 3 killers. Plus, I don't see Demo even in top 5 killers IMO.
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No, the big 3 will remain untouched even after the Demo buff.
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Adrenawin.
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I don't think someone is gonna disagree with you 😂.
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People get so salty about BT timer going down against certain killers. People, you remember the BT before Legion patch which would go down no matter what killer do you were playing against ?
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Dying Light is just trash, not worth running. This perk literally punish you in every way.
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Inner Strength.
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@StupidPallets said:
Thank you for your wonderful review. How long does it take to destroy one of his portals as of right now?
12 seconds without add-ons.
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"A - Good killers but can't deal with high level survivors like the two above", there are 4 killers above them.
"I rank Hag above Billy, deal with it", I don't care much about that, I only care about Myers and even Ghost Face being so overrated.
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@Sinner said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/695583#Comment_695583
That's not true. He has a very strong power that can end chases very fast and even catch multiple survivors at once, which only leatherface can do.
Good trapper players are rare though. Most of them just put traps in pallets and under windows, which means they basically sabotage themselves. However from time to time one of those good trapper players comes along and hides his traps in the least expected places and mindfucks everyone. That's why I put him so high, because I've witnessed many times how strong he can be in the right hands. Same with Hag.
Huntress is the easiest killer to loop. Even if your aim is godlike, you still need line of sight, which you won't get very often against a good survivor.
He doesn't have a strong power that can end chases very fast, he has a power that makes him lose at least 2 gens because of the set up time, traps can be disarmed very easily, SWF teams can tell to each other where traps are, Object of Obsession and Small Game can tell where his traps are, very add-on reliant, Dead Hard counters traps, [BAD WORD] hitboxes on traps, his power relies on RNG and I could say even more IMO.
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@TragicSolitude said:
I dunno if I'd say it's powerful, but I had a couple Nancy players in once match and it highlighted just how useless Iron Maiden is; lots of notifications, but I could never find them before the 15 seconds was up (or at all, actually).
iRON mAIDEN cOUNTERS iNNER sTRENGTH bTW.
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So many weird placements ...
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@RakimSockem said:
It hurts how many people I see put Huntress as a mid-low tier. Her skill ceiling and map pressure are off the chart depending on the skill on the person playing her. UmbraBug is one of the main streamers I know who is amazing with her, but I'm sure there's more.
She's definitely above Clown for sure
From what I saw, most people put her as number 5-6.
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@Sinner said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/695570#Comment_695570
Trapper, on paper, yeah, is one of the worse, but in the right hands, which he mostly is at rank 1, he just destroys everyone. Especially if it's someone that has played survivor a lot and knows the routes that they like to take. Plague and huntress are very easy to loop at rank 1.
I know a lot of Trapper mains who plays him from 2016. Trust me, he only destroy potatoes survivors. Don't even put me to make a list about all of Trapper's weaknesses, it would take ages.
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@[Deleted User] said:
another one
1. using self care is fine
2. using op add ons on killers is fine just like survivor
3. being immersed is fine
4. nurse and spirit are balanced , not the nurse add ons tho
5. just because the killer hooked you that does not mean he is op
I don't remember a person complaining about Self Care in years ...
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Trapper needs more traps in his hands at the start of the match and the traps to be more dangerous, Undetectable won't do much for him.
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Trapper is the worst killer in the game, even Otzdarva's Trapper gets rekted by half decent teams, there is no way he is A tier. Clown better than Myers ?!! Plague and Huntress that low ?!!
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@Mochan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/693118#Comment_693118
You're joking right? It's one of the most run perks.
I barely see people running Bamboozle.
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Sorry, but Inner Strength > Second Wind. Seconds Wind can literally screw a person that has We'll Make It, so not a good perk for your team.
Better Together can also be used by smart survivors to avoid being chased in a zone where generators are being repaired.
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@FuelSauce said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/692756#Comment_692756
I like your tier list.
Thanks.
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@yandere777 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/693142#Comment_693142
But it doesn't help him. And in fact, it hurts his potential synergy with all of the perks i listed
Beside Infectious Fright, terror radius based perks are usually bad anyway.
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@NuclearBurrito said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/693066#Comment_693066
They don't.
It helps but it isn't required unlike with other Killers.
Against good survivors they need them. But I don't see the problem, because perks have unlimited usage.
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@NuclearBurrito said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/693055#Comment_693055
Nurse and Spirit don't
@NuclearBurrito said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/693055#Comment_693055
Nurse and Spirit don't
They still need stall and tracking perks.
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Any killer needs meta perks against good survivors.
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Idk, you don't have fun to infinite her on Groaning Storehouse or Grim Pantry ?
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It doesn't sound good on paper if you read carefully. This perk is hot garbage and it tends to hurt you in every way.
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Enduring + Spirit Fury is a must on him. But he actually can benefit from that combo better than other M1 killers because of his Shred.
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Just the part with no Borrowed Time is right, the others things are related to Undetectable status effect, which isn't applied to Freddy.
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My tier list :
I am not 100% sure about Demo's place get, so take this with a grain of salt.
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He needs double power recovery rate add-ons to be somewhat decent.
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@Alice_pbg said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/690519#Comment_690519
Trapper, "worst killer in the game"...
I am not the only one to think that.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/690513#Comment_690513
I think Trapper is slightly better than LF.
I think Trapper is the worst killer in the game. Without add-ons, I have no doubt in that.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/690489#Comment_690489
Clown is the worst killer, legion is before clown, doc before legion, wraith before doc and pig before Wraith. These killers are worse than LF imo.
I think you wanted to say "after", not "before".
Pig worse than LF ?! Big OOF.
Where is Trapper ? Literally the only killer who loses 2 gens to actually have a power ...
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/690469#Comment_690469
I put him there because his basekit isn’t that great, lately I haven’t quite felt he is the second worst after playing with his basekit more. He isn’t as bad as I originally placed him.
So who you think is worse than LF ?
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Fair enough.
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When I asked you about your tier list, you put Leatherface as the second worst killer. So maybe even you don't believe that LF isn't as bad as people make him out to be.
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@Yung_Slug said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/690202#Comment_690202
Borrowed time doesn't work outside of terror radius and it doesn't give you time to heal.
It's still better in every way than Babysitter.
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Or just use Borrowed Time instead of wasting 2 perk slots.
