Freddy's new change

Patchnotes say that survivors are oblivous while asleep so this means borrowed time doesnt work on him right? Same for trying to use a pebble while asleep. Im extremely happy about this change but at the same time it makes a good chunk of perks useless on him.

Comments

  • BT applies to the hooked survivor so my guess it would still trigger. If not, expect the devs to "fix" it shortly.

  • @Mr_K said:

    BT applies to the hooked survivor so my guess it would still trigger. If not, expect the devs to "fix" it shortly.

    If the rescuer is asleep it wont apply but even if they manage to get BT off, freddy can tunnel just like it was old BT because if you hit them they'll fall asleep but since theres no TR BT wont even work. This just made freddy the best tunneling killer lol. Besides wraith cause he number one with that

  • I didn't think about Borrowed Time, that's a teeny tiny buff.

    But now Unnerving Presence has no effecton Survivors so every add-on that increases Gen regression from missed Skillchecks is completely worthless since you have nothing to force them. Does Infectious Fright still work because that's within your TR.

    Why was this even implemented?! They said it was ''Balance Change'' THAT IS NOT BALANCE! This is completely a design CHOICE, but the Borrowed Time thing is cool and probably the ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT THIS.

    I'm so pissed off as this does nothing to help him, he has a lullaby in the DW so being Oblivious doesn't help Freddy at all.

  • I expect days of crying threads soon.

  • @HatCreature said:

    I didn't think about Borrowed Time, that's a teeny tiny buff.

    But now Unnerving Presence has no effecton Survivors so every add-on that increases Gen regression from missed Skillchecks is completely worthless since you have nothing to force them. Does Infectious Fright still work because that's within your TR.

    Why was this even implemented?! They said it was ''Balance Change'' THAT IS NOT BALANCE! This is completely a design CHOICE, but the Borrowed Time thing is cool and probably the ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT THIS.

    I'm so pissed off as this does nothing to help him, he has a lullaby in the DW so being Oblivious doesn't help Freddy at all.

    Imo its a pretty big buff because no red glow makes people drop pallet faster or not drop it at all

  • @FishFry247 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/692647#Comment_692647

    Imo its a pretty big buff because no red glow makes people drop pallet faster or not drop it at all

    Wait for real? No Red Glow while in the DW? I'm still downloading the patch. That seems like a bug on BHVR's end that will get patched out within 24 hours, ''too strong'' just like getting Exposed hits on Pig's Ambush which they removed for some reason.

  • Unnerving isn't even that good. Plus the effect is mostly for stealth based killers.

  • Borrowed time

    Dark devotion

    Pebble

    Distressing

    Unnerving presence

    Technically agitation

    Monitor and abuse

    Object of obsession

    Insidous

    Overwhelming presence

    Stake out

    Kinda tinkerer

    All of these perks are either useless on him, or work better against him.

    OoO is like chasing a ghost face because now there's no TR thats stopping you. m&a is useless unless you like having weird fov. And so much more. Not sure how to feel about this one to be honest.

  • @HatCreature said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/692652#Comment_692652

    Wait for real? No Red Glow while in the DW? I'm still downloading the patch. That seems like a bug on BHVR's end that will get patched out within 24 hours, ''too strong'' just like getting Exposed hits on Pig's Ambush which they removed for some reason.

    Actualy since red glow is generally tied to the TR this makes some sense. Not sure if this actualy works though but i hope this is the case

  • RIP Borrowed Time against Freddy lol.

  • So Freddy has both effects or just the one in the patch notes it's for oblivious not undetectable

  • @yandere777 said:

    Borrowed time

    Dark devotion

    Pebble

    Distressing

    Unnerving presence

    Technically agitation

    Monitor and abuse

    Object of obsession

    Insidous

    Overwhelming presence

    Stake out

    Kinda tinkerer

    All of these perks are either useless on him, or work better against him.

    OoO is like chasing a ghost face because now there's no TR thats stopping you. m&a is useless unless you like having weird fov. And so much more. Not sure how to feel about this one to be honest.

    3 of those work WORSE against him

  • I think it works in the way that you're still in the TR, you just can't hear it.

  • @indieeden7 said:

    I think it works in the way that you're still in the TR, you just can't hear it.

    It doesn't. You are oblivious. The terror radius doesn't exist. BT won't trigger. Stake out won't trigger. Pebble won't trigger. DW will keep draining regardless of where Freddy is.

  • @HatCreature said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/692652#Comment_692652

    Wait for real? No Red Glow while in the DW? I'm still downloading the patch. That seems like a bug on BHVR's end that will get patched out within 24 hours, ''too strong'' just like getting Exposed hits on Pig's Ambush which they removed for some reason.

    If I'm not mistaken Red Glow isn't a thing while Oblivious is active

  • @Peanits, sorry to @ you but could you clarify something for us? Does oblivious get rid of the red stain?

  • @yandere777 said:

    @Peanits, sorry to @ you but could you clarify something for us? Does oblivious get rid of the red stain?

    No it doesn't.

  • Welp, the Oblivious status on Freddy is legit worthless, good job guys, Freddy got ######### again.

  • @HatCreature said:

    Welp, the Oblivious status on Freddy is legit worthless, good job guys, Freddy got ######### again.

    it doesnt hurt him

  • But it doesn't help him. And in fact, it hurts his potential synergy with all of the perks i listed

  • @yandere777 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/693142#Comment_693142

    But it doesn't help him. And in fact, it hurts his potential synergy with all of the perks i listed

    Beside Infectious Fright, terror radius based perks are usually bad anyway.

  • @yandere777 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/693142#Comment_693142

    But it doesn't help him. And in fact, it hurts his potential synergy with all of the perks i listed

    It doesn't, tough...

    Borrowed time is now bad against freddy

    Dark devotion works on awake survivors, and who uses dark devotion on freddy?

    Pebble is now worse against freddy

    Distressing, why would anyone use this on anyone but doctor?

    The increased terror radius on agitation is meaningless, no one uses it for that.

    I can go on, but do I need to?

  • @Alice_pbg said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/693166#Comment_693166

    It doesn't, tough...

    Borrowed time is now bad against freddy

    Dark devotion works on awake survivors, and who uses dark devotion on freddy?

    Pebble is now worse against freddy

    Distressing, why would anyone use this on anyone but doctor?

    The increased terror radius on agitation is meaningless, no one uses it for that.

    I can go on, but do I need to?

    I rushed out my response. I meant to say most of the perks. I agree with what you said but that still doesnt change the fact that perks like infectious fright, and unnerving are now useless. Unnerving could have been okay if you used the dress add ons with it but now its not so great.

  • @yandere777 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/693202#Comment_693202

    I rushed out my response. I meant to say most of the perks. I agree with what you said but that still doesnt change the fact that perks like infectious fright, and unnerving are now useless. Unnerving could have been okay if you used the dress add ons with it but now its not so great.

    Not even most. Half at best

  • 7 out of 11 of the perks i mentioned are no longer even a thought on him. All he counters is borrowed time, the pebble and stake out. Sure the perks that are useless on him aren't all considered good but they are absolutely useless on freddy.

  • @yandere777 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/693236#Comment_693236

    7 out of 11 of the perks i mentioned are no longer even a thought on him. All he counters is borrowed time, the pebble and stake out. Sure the perks that are useless on him aren't all considered good but they are absolutely useless on freddy.

    OoO works the exact same way.

    Who uses agitation for the terror radius?

    5/11

  • The rescuer has to be awake for BT to trigger. If he is, BT triggers and the survivor is safe(-er)