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Wow imagine that the same thread with the same Tru videos keeps getting posted and DEBUNKED because some with an agenda just can't accept their favorite streamer played poorly.
What's this the like 6th thread now where you try the troll job and it gets quickly pointed out by others including @ScottJund in the other thread how stupid this is.
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@yeet said:
@powerbats said:
@yeet said:
the old "it's ok when i make these claims because i'm mysteriously more justified", classic
no, there is no difference, you are just doing the same thing you call others out on.
The old Fallacies when you can't disprove my claims make something up routine.
Yes there is a difference you just don't want to admit it because you know I'm right.
We know for a fact that not every lobby is a 4 man swf with insta heals, ds/ad/dh etc etc etc despite the claims to the contrary.
We also know for a fact that it does happen with 3-4k with nurses etc at red ranks with 1,2 or no gens done same for others. But because you just can't accept facts you like to troll.
if calling you out on your bs is trolling then i live under a bridge
Troll Translation enabled: You have to keep making stuff up because you know I'm right again.
I guess Monto never 4k's, Marth never 4k's, I guess no killer out there ever 4k's with no gens done at red ranks according to you.
I'd post the thousands of videos of killers 4king with no gens done but then that'd make a fool out of one of us and we both know it wouldn't be me.
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@weirdkid5 said:
@powerbats said:
@weirdkid5 said:
I'd say take the top 20% and bottom 20% as a good compromise. This should allow the middle to balance itself.
I agree with this since that way you get the best of both worlds average wise without making killers op or underpowered.
Holy #########... did we just...
agree?...
WHAT SACRILEGE !!!!!!!!!!
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@Slayer said:
Anyway what s your problem with that ? If people do that it means you wont get mached up with casuals and they will matched up with equals isnt it good ? Or you play on low ranks on purpose too to destroy casuals?
I play rank 1 because that's where I belong at unlike some on here that derank for easier matches on both sides including quite a few killer mains on here.
The only times I depip are when I play badly, I get outplayed, I'm working on adepts, when I farm during events and when I'm nice due to someone crashing during loading screen.
So you can take that insult attempt and throw it out the window because it's about as useful as the attempt was which was not at all.
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@weirdkid5 said:
I'd say take the top 20% and bottom 20% as a good compromise. This should allow the middle to balance itself.
I agree with this since that way you get the best of both worlds average wise without making killers op or underpowered.
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@yeet said:
the old "it's ok when i make these claims because i'm mysteriously more justified", classic
no, there is no difference, you are just doing the same thing you call others out on.
The old Fallacies when you can't disprove my claims make something up routine.
Yes there is a difference you just don't want to admit it because you know I'm right.
We know for a fact that not every lobby is a 4 man swf with insta heals, ds/ad/dh etc etc etc despite the claims to the contrary.
We also know for a fact that it does happen with 3-4k with nurses etc at red ranks with 1,2 or no gens done same for others. But because you just can't accept facts you like to troll.
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@Maximus7 said:
This may surprise you with some of the comments I've seen from you here, but sometimes, a developer pushes out a bad fix. And BHVR kind of has a reputation or bad patches. Nowhere in Prove Thyself's description does it say it doesn't stack with toolboxes or other bonuses, and it even says the bonus for it is applied to every other survivor on the generator with you.
Oh I'm aware of that but if you watch the last devstream where they explicitly talk about that bug during the PTB that is was being multiplied incorrectly. The bug wasn't supposed to go live and on their end they'd patched it and it didn't work.
So I'm not sure what happened and whether or not they missed it or another change popped that bug back in or they forgot to change it again.
I'll have to find the exact time stamp they talked about it and it's on the forums somewhere I even posted about it 2 weeks or so ago with the timestamp.
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@Slayer said:
You re lost here too . Read what is this thread about and what mlga actually is useful for
I know full well what MLGA does do and why it's used and it's gone beyond it's initial purpose which was for ping issues with lobbies. It was never intended for what's it's being used for now.
It's not that difficult to dodge lobbies with high ping and can just leave the lobby and depending on what your threshold is you might try changing it to avoid some of your issues.
Oh and here directly from their site.
MLGA stands for "Make Lobbies Great Again". In any Peer to peer lobby, MLGA can be run to view the people you are connected to, see their ping, and toggle a blocked/loved setting for each of them.
There's even lists out there of toxic/good players on both sides apparently that people can use so they only get matched up with easy players.
The author stopped doing anything with it last year after it got abused for going beyond ping blocking and you can check his comments on it.
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@Boss said:
Then please ready up when joining me.
If you don't ready up, i'll assume you're not ready, and i don't want anyone who isn't ready to face me.It hasn't really mattered today, join in with no time and ready up, killer instantly dodges because they don't like the flashy outfit or they don't like facing someone who did well prior games apparently.
I try and join with my items already equipped and if ping is good instantly ready up and still get dodged even before I can click ready. I've joined lobbies and watched as they slowly fill up by ones or two's and the duo's elave and it's all solo's.
The killers will dodge the moment they see a single item or cosmetic they don't like it doesn't matter what it is or if it's a super cool outfit.
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@weirdkid5 said:
@powerbats said:
@NoShinyPony said:
You were saying that the game isn't easy for solo survs.
You can't do a lot against super good nurses in general. Hasn't anything to do with SWF or solo.Well sadly most games whether it's been Nurse, Huntress, Billy, Myers, or even a Bubba have been 3-4k's since patch came out.
Oh and offerings just came up on current match and black ward fml lol.
I'm starting to think if there was any kind of serious competitive mode in this game, add-ons would be disallowed and only perks could be used. Add-ons range from being useless to basically making the game one-sided. There needs to be a baseline balance before things like this are considered.
I'd be all 4 that with some things being limited like no insta downs, no insta heals, no AD, no NOED, no aura reading type of stuff and no DS etc is fine also.
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@yeet said:
@powerbats said:
@NoShinyPony said:
@NekoGamerX said:
@Poweas said:
Doctor is bugged af. Honestly. He needs a massive set of buffs. Also trust me, the game isn't any easier for solo survivor.
nope it not.
Really.
Sure, SWF is way easier but solo surv still isn't hard at all.Yeah have you seen all the nurses at red ranks right now 4king with no gens done if any lately along with the Iridescent Huntresses etc.
you saying this is the exact same as a killer saying every match is against full SWF 4xDS 4x instaheal gen rushers
The difference is wwe know one exists commonly aka nurses and iri huntresses the other isn't as common as some killers on here claim.
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@NoShinyPony said:
You were saying that the game isn't easy for solo survs.
You can't do a lot against super good nurses in general. Hasn't anything to do with SWF or solo.Well sadly most games whether it's been Nurse, Huntress, Billy, Myers, or even a Bubba have been 3-4k's since patch came out.
Oh and offerings just came up on current match and black ward fml lol.
Edit: Legion with the destroy build and black ward the BT P3 Claudette dc'd as soon as he tagged 1st 2 ppl within 15 seconds of match starting. It ended as expected but i got 1 gen and killed the hex totem at least haha.
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@MojoTheFabulous said:
I'm assuming this is 3 people on a Gen right? Because i'm pretty sure that was usually around 33 seconds anyway. So this isn't really a big deal.Which is something these people seem to forget that 3 people hitting great skill checks will kill a gen fast which is why Discordance is so nice for the smart killers that use it.
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@NoShinyPony said:
@NekoGamerX said:
@Poweas said:
Doctor is bugged af. Honestly. He needs a massive set of buffs. Also trust me, the game isn't any easier for solo survivor.nope it not.
Really.
Sure, SWF is way easier but solo surv still isn't hard at all.Yeah have you seen all the nurses at red ranks right now 4king with no gens done if any lately along with the Iridescent Huntresses etc.
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This is early am today and it was a Billy on Crotus and he hooked 2 people and camped them from the start and no one had run into the middle yet.
Me and the Feng did loop him for being a camper but at the killer shack where we were trying to do a gen which was on opposite side of map from where he'd been camping.
Oh and the only way he'd have been there was f he was wall hacking because I'd snuck through the middle from the other side to get closer to the camped victims.
So double laughs at the bad killer.
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@DarkWo1f997 said:
Would be nice if we could have a music slider for in-game music.So much this since it's often times hard to hear things like hatch, killer heartbeat when injured, crawling, gens progress if injured etc.
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@Attackfrog said:
I can see some people still defend the "ranking" system.It's not a terrible system...if it weren't so misleading (especially for new players, who it is designed to protect).
It IS achievable by all players, should they decide to.invest the time. It is not achieved by all players (@powerbats, I do not know how to display the difference. You suggest that one negates the other but this is untrue. I am not sure how to best explain how this is true and negates the idea of "ranks", as they are portrayed in this game).
The point is: this game has no rank system. The system it calls "rank" is merely a third (and unnecessary) system to portray a player's time investment.
It is designed to protect new players, but due to the ease of abuse, it does the opposite: allows more hardcore players to bully them for more bloodpoints.
As an fyi: it's like the old WoW pvp realms where slightly higher levels could rank the low ranking zones. (I reference wow a lot...it shows my age lol)
I do understand but I think without it you'd get low skill players and lets not kid ourselves here there's some with 500+ hours that still suck. There's quite a few that can' get past rank 15 and quite a few have posted about it saying killers are op etc.
Now if you're realistically talking about playing with sharks and say you're maining a survivor only it's really around 1k hours or more that you really start to learn how to play. By then you should have the following general knowledge.
Be able to hit great skill check not 100% of the time but at least 50% of the time
Know where totem spawns are and be cleansing them.
Know where generators are for the most part and which ones have priority to be done ie don't 3 gen yourself or if you see it happening work on gens to counter it.
Know the map tiles and where the safe and unsafe pallets are, where good and bad looping spots are, where good and bad places to hide are.
Don't be stupid with Hag traps near hooked players ( we all bang our heads against desks on this one when we see it.)
Do safe unhooks like not running into the camping Bubba holding his chainsaw aloft and who eats Borrowed Time users for breakfast etc.
I could go on here but you get the point but without a rank system as it stands you'd get stuck with those horrible potatoes against say a Marth because you think they're good enough due to hours played.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Maximus7 said:
If this is possible with two [BAD WORD] people, there's a goddamn problem: https://clips.twitch.tv/TriumphantEasyMilkJKanStyleAre you the guy telling the developers to kill themselves? You seem lovely!
These are the type of people who get ignored and hopefully will be driven away from the game and realistically it's an issue with the tool boxes. It's similar to an issue they'd discovered already and they fixed 1 set of numbers but this slipped through.
What probably happened was it got changed on their side properly but for some reason the change didn't activate client side like it was supposed to. We'll probably get a hotfix shortly or the perk will get temp disabled.
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@redsopine01 said:
Did not think on thatThe best laid plans of mice and men along with that darn monkey wrench that ruins so many great ideas. 😁
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No because Deliverance would be worthless at that point since it's for other people unhooking the hooked person.
I mean they're exposed and can't heal or be healed for a minimum of 60 seconds so if found again it's an easy down and quite often they go and hide and don't do gens. If they go do gens then they're fresh meat ready to be rehooked.
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@Slayer said:
@powerbats said:
You should take your own advice if you need to use that program and in a few months when dedicated servers come up you'll have to grow up to and be an adult.
Also @Mochan don't call them that even if it could be viewed as accurate.
you lost
If you think I lost then your ego is obviously blinding you since it was never a contest in the 1st place oh and when dedicated servers say hi in a few months the only losers will be those still trying to use MLGA.
Oh and if we're going to keep score, that was game, set and match which means YOU LOST !!!!! 😜
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You should take your own advice if you need to use that program and in a few months when dedicated servers come up you'll have to grow up to and be an adult.
Also @Mochan don't call them that even if it could be viewed as accurate.
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So you're complaining about a bugfix that should've happened a long time ago yet allowed you to get hits and grabs before that you shouldn't have.
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@vampire_toothy said:
I'll acknowledge the killer in the video did poorly and missed a bunch of blinks, though I guess I forgot to bring it up in my first post (oops). Tru3 is definitely not a prime example of an excellent killer by any means, there are better people who can be used for these examples. I still do think that objectives are something that should be changed to be more satisfying for both sides however.
At least you're not too blinded by biases to see that and yes changes do need to be made to satisfy both sides not one like some on here want to do. The new secondary objectives will go a long way towards that.
@SenzuDuck said:
Personally I haven't seen the other person's post as much, I only called you and vietfox out as I've seen both of you being more problematic in these posts from my experience as I've often held back from responding to posts on the forums. But hey, want to be toxic in these posts instead of being productive you can be my guest, I'm just pointing out you shouldn't care about being given some phony "killer" or "survivor" main title because it means nothing and is only a roadblock to real discussion.
Well if you look further back they're responding to the same core group with an agenda usually as evidenced by these ridiculous videos. They do sometimes bring it over to randoms who don't know any better and see the trolls agreeing with them or get baited into stuff.
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The only way basement hooks should be breakable is if Breakdown is in play but then the hook(s) should auto respawn 15-30 seconds later.
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@Peanits said:
In the sense that it's not up against a big blank wall that can be seen from a mile away, it's way better. You'll actually have to go in and check for it, not just glance at it from a couple tiles away.
I've always look in the corners for a totem in the shack or anyplace for that matter so to all the people whining about it good grief, it's an improvement. They could always just leave it outside on the edges or corners where it's easy to see.
I mean it's not like you'll be able to have clear los to see a killer coming a mile away while your heads buried in a corner removing it even with 3rd person. Throw in an M&A killer or Evil I Myers etc and you might just find yourself getting grabbed off of said totem.
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Spirit all the way and her very rare outfit is the best since it's a nice bloody color but not bad either and the big ass sword scares the crud out of people on jumpscares.
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As @Spirez said and it's their way of letting people know it's slower than just one person working on it now.
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Oh good grief, the amount of whiny trolling here is unbelievable, you'll cherry pick only the videos that backup your argument.
It's become obvious you're Tru fanboys now and anytime he struggles it's because killers are grossly underpowered. It's never the killer making mistakes or the survivors just played better and you ignore every video where he stomps people.
But then it's always the excuse of well the survivor were potatoes, not that the killer gasp just played better I mean because admitting that would admit your argument was bad.
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They'd talked about this in the last devstream about how sometimes the changes don't get into the patch notes for various reasons. The devs tell someone what's their and they then translate it into a readable format and sometimes they don't pass everything along.
Then there's times that due to the size of the patch notes not everything makes it into said patch notes in time for release hence why you always see updated notes later.
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@Attackfrog said:
Everyone, eventually does, get to rank one. Every has the ability to get to rank one (which defeats the purpose of a "ranking" system).
The key word has the ability to get to rank 1 here, since in any game anyone has the ability to technically get to rank 1. But having the ability and actually getting there are 2 completely different things.
The system is only gated one way: new players aren't supposed to be grouped with rank 1 players (yet they due). People derank to play against new players.
That's not due to the ranking system at it's core but to swf and just people being jerks which happens in other games to. However in those other games there's penalties some quite harsh for people that derank to face new players.
What's laughable about it is a lot of the ones complaining about the rank system are also ones that abuse it and oppose systems that would punish derankers. If you look at how LEague handled it they punished people but the people here like i said oppose being punished for deranking to help fix the issue.
The current system is completely bonkers and should not be called a "rank" system at all. It is more like a leveling system (like WoW....everyone can be max rank, yet not everybody is.).
This is true but also refutes your 1st point because no not everyone gets to rank 1 and while you have the ability it doesn't make it happen.
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@weirdkid5 said:
Except I'm not a Killer fam, I've already provided enough evidence to you, whether you acknowledge it or not, that I am a Survivor. And actually, when he called me out on what I said, I admitted to my incorrect statements and rectified it. 3/4 meta perks and 1/2 meta add-ons is still a meta build fammo. You'll have to excuse if I haven't played this game in over a year, aside from a few matches about a week ago, and my lack of a good memory.
I should've been more specific on that so apologies but if you look at certain killer mains on here my point stands.
And what are you talking about? I have also already acknowledged that Scott can win 20 games in a row if you read my other comments, but Scott hardly "demolished" the Depip Squad. He just barely got the pip when the last gen was activated. That isn't a demolishing game, especially against no-perked Survivors.
Ok so he didn't destroy a pro team but the video is stupid as an example.
And this match proves exactly that, Killers can capitalize on Survivor mistakes, but even when doing so you still need to sweat in order to get your pip off. I actually never said Scott played bad during this match, he actually played well to the best of his abilities.
So a pro caliber player having to work their ass off against other pro caliber players is a problem why again? If he was playing against bad survivors or even average and struggled then it'd be different.
And that is further one of my points, that he sweated and still barely got the pip. I think you guys seem to be missing the point entirely here.
No we're not missing the point ehre, it's just irrelevant considering the talent level he was facing, you're trying to justify that video by using him playing against equal talent and having to work hard.
As far as the incorrect statements about @ScottJund 's loadout, I was incorrect as well as my forgetting of the Victory Cube. But this game is still prime example of the issues at hand, and I will still be relaying this information (along with the fact that if this match was in current Emblem System, there would have been no pip earned by Scott
)There's no denying there's issues at hand what's the issue is that you and others are blowing them out of proportion to justify a false narrative.
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@RuneStarr said:
I miss the LOL react so much.
Now I have to actually type to tell OP his trollpost made me laugh.
Here use this custom one I made once the change happened, it gets the point across much better.
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@redsopine01 said:
Again people this is a one off shesh I couldn't keep up and was bored of the constant looping without pulling it so I faked them out to end the loopOne off things are fine but the ones that do it more than that are just scummy and breed more toxicity.
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Report them to the console makers and BHVR and while BHVR can't ban them now once console bans go live they can and the console makers take that stuff seriously.
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You never know what perks the killer is going to bring so you need to pick perks that best suit your playstyle and play as smart as possible.
If you think they're going to be running either or both then bring perks to counter that and always know where the basement is and avoid it's area.
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Red ranks have a lot of lobby dodgers on pc and it's usually not due to items either, it's due to they just don't like someone that plays stealthy usually. I can go in with non camo outfits but as soon as they see me join with no item it's instant dodge.
I don't teabag them, don't loop them endlessly unless it's a Billy trying to cheese with the chainsaw charged behind me the whole time. Then I'm going to do my best to loop them senseless because i don't go for that cheese bs.
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@BlackViperCom said:
@Jack11803 said:
You’re a dick for assuming all survivors are cheaters. That’s like assuming all black people are criminals. You’re a part of the problem with the division and lack of coorperation between the two sidesDid you even look at the video past 5:30? The rank 8 stayed on the rock up until 13:00 (after "pointing" to try to "make me leave for several minutes).
Just as I figured... this is "ok" behaviour and truly a toxic community. LOL!
No it's not ok behaviour but neither is naming and shaming on the forums and while BHVR can't ban until they get the ok from the console makers. That doesn't mean they're not keeping track of who's been naughty and who's been nice with the reports.
So you need to do the proper thing and take the video down and submit it directly to BHVR via a support ticket so that when bans go live those people get nailed.
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@AshleyWB said:
To be fair to the devs, ive noticed quite a few really hidden totems which didn't exist all that long ago.Yes there's been some really well sneaky ones that always seem to be Ruin/DH that stay up most or all of the map, since If it's out in the open I get suspicious due to HG lol.
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It's probably just the time of day and region area since even with region lock removal red ranks are a pain to get lobbies as right now on PC. But it's the same every day around this time between 2-5 am or so lobbies are really slow.
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@weirdkid5 said:
@ForeheadSurviors said:
Yeah okI mean it is technically a legit strat, it just isn't viable. Camping aside, it still only takes 160 seconds to repair all 5 gens with proper coordination
True and if people stopped rewarding it so much killers would stop doing it except for the dedicated ones that just want to watch the world burn.
I do wonder how much camping skewers the survival statistics at each rank same as dc's on both sides along with crashes.
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Oh and in case anyone missed it this is someones smurf posting this again to start up drama which is probably why the last one got closed.
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@ScottJund said:
im starting to think you havent even watched the game. I didn't have stridor, I didn't have extra hatchets, and I AFK'd the last 2 minutes of the match to just stop their streak instead of 4king. Are you confusing me with someone else? You seem to have some weird dislike for me
You''ll find that person you're responding to is like quite a few of the biased killers on here, they spout nonsense and then when called change their story and still spout nonsense.
The newest thing they do is use the killers are human and make mistakes excuse/deflection yet if the killer demolishes like you did then it's different.
It becomes well the survivors were potatoes not that the killer played better ignoring that they just claimed killers playing badly were human and made mistakes. So if the survivors make mistakes it's not because they're human but because they're potatoes.
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
Get out before he hits you...
Im not sure how you lose your item to FD thanks to your tbagging more than once and still not convinced that its your fault.I've been chased to the exit made it out after getting unhooked or just running to it and gotten hit 3-5 steps through. I've also ahd times where I'd opened it and ran in and straight out and the killer wasn't close enough to register a hit and still get tagged.
So it's not always someone teabagging or screwing around and losing an item to FD that way even though it does happen too often.
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@The_Trapper said:
Hot damn you can read the future? Spoken as if you were CEO of BEhaviour.
No I just use common senses and logic.
Sounds like you believe this would happen because it would prove me, and anyone who agrees with me wrong, which would give you satisfaction.
Again no because if the game dies how can I play it? Now see how your logic doesn't make sense since being proven right by destroying the game isn't going to give me any satisfaction.
I have no problem with high skill solo players, because they are the ones who, for the most part, have earned their talent for the game without the cheese.
Yet quite a few killers still have said they'd dodge because they don't want a challenge, they don't like items, or outfits etc.
I'll reiterate what I've said before that I'm all for a solo only lobby but for all your solo only complainers you get stuck there FOREVER. Once you choose that option there's no going back and you're forever stuck playing solo only lobbies.
If you don't like the wait times due to lack of players oh well you got what you wanted and now you're stuck with it. As a further requirement they should add lobby dodging penalties so if the ping is fine from the dedicated server and you lobby dodge you get a timer penalty.
Then we'd see how much people really want to play solo and how much is just more of the excuse making and if I ever hit the lotto big I'd pay for it to happen. That way both sides would get what they want and then there'd be no more lobby dodging excuses and it'd be easier to balance things out.
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@The_Trapper said:
@Yamaoka said:
Apparently people can't just play this game without acting like total brats.Better to be the brat who utterly won, than a brat who lost though.
I swear I've seen you in-game, are you on PC? If it was you, you did something pretty trash. I could be wrong though.
If you're a toxic jerk it doesn't matter if you win or not, you're still a toxic jerk whether you're a killer being a toxic jerk or a survivor being a toxic jerk.
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@Rebel_Raven said:
You just wasted a lot of time saying a whole lot of nothing, there.
I mean that was pretty pointless.
"Wah! Excuses! How dare you complain about an unfun tactic, and defend someone who didn't play robot perfect with a stacked loadout!"And?
It's not full of holes, you're just grasping at your usual "take responsibility, git gud" approach that is basically useless against me because I don't have the sort of ego you hope I do.
I have enough sense to see that gen rush isn't fun, and killers aren't all robot perfect players with perfect loadouts.
I have enough sense to see that this game isn't perfect, survivors aren't all angels, and not everything is entirely the killers fault.Translation you once again CAN'T refute my points so you resort to more of the excuses and deflections.
It's amazing you say you have enough sense but then go the typical troll route and use logical fallacies like they're candy.
You claim you know yet when the killer screws up it's not the killers fault it's the take responsibility deflection.
When the killer does good, it's not the killer was good it's the survivors were potatoes excuse from you.
Each and every time you come up with excuses, deflections or blame anything but where the problem lies in that situation.
Oh and I've faced some rank 2 killers today running no perks and no addons and they still managed to 3 and 4k us because they didn't play like tru did in that video.
Proof that when the killer plays right they win oh and the people on ehre that 4k as perkless Freddy say hi oh and Monto says hi with his over 100 straight 4k games.
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@The_Trapper said:
9 out of 10 games I play would be opted out of SWF, which I would love.Out of all my killers, I have like 3 or 4 builds for different killers that give me a bit more of a chance against SWF, however it's reliant on perks and add-ons, which I don't agree with.
Frankly, i'd rather just starve the SWF by forcing them to play solo haha.
Then you'd get no lobbies, the game would die problem solved since if people can't play with their friends which most are just screwing around you have no game. If you had lobbies you'd get stuck with the solo players that know how to play.
But then you'd be wishing you hadn't screwed yourself over because now you'd be facing swat teams of solo survivors because they'd be the only ones left.
Oh and because you were facing solo only all the buffs killers have been getting to help them get closer to swf kiss those goodbye.
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I've never done that nor never will since that's just a jerk move and just makes people toxic towards killers in future matches. Which then leads to some of the very same killers on here complaining about toxic survivor behavior.
You wonder why you get teabagged, gen rushed, flash light spammed, looped forever well this right here is prime territory.
