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This thread has devolved into a typical flame fest so it's now about Chicken and whether breaded and deep fried or just deep fried is the best.
I say breaded and deep fried is best.
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@yeet said:
you aren't entitled to have people play against you if they don't want toYou're not entitled to ruin peoples lobbies that have waited patiently for a queue to pop just because you think you might not have fun. In reality what you want is an easy match, 4 people could be guaranteed solo's yet you'd still dodged because of outfits, characters or items.
The game could be balanced and certain killers would still dodge even if it was solo lobbies only because they don't want a challenging game they want an easy fun game.
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@fcc2014 said:
Wait you play 10 min rounds with Trapper at rank 1 without ruin? I find that hard to believe. Are the ssurvivors afk or just cherry picked potatoes?
Actually I've faced good trapper, Pigs, Doctors, Freddy, Myers etc at rank 1 who make the games either last really long or they end them quickly.
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@Master said:
Thats just being unlucky.
Doesnt happen all the time.Unlucky? Nah, our fellow just didnt look around for the killer. He definitely has the tools to do so
I've spawned on top of a hill on wide open maps before and the killer is looking right at me 24 meters or so away. It happens way too often or the killers on said hill and still has clear los.
Sadly quite often it's either a billy or a Nurse when this happens and you're basically screwed at that point.
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@NoShinyPony said:
Why should a killer be unable to dodge troll groups?
So because they have bright clothing they're troll groups, well might as well just kill the game off since heaven forbid people buy cosmetics in the store.
I mean people buying bright and funky outfits in the store is what helps keep the company going and adding more stuff. But since you don't want people to wear bright outfits or bring any items people should just stop playing.
There your problem is solved now since the games dead you won't ever have to worry about facing a possible troll group. Let alone any groups that might actually challenge you to play your best but hey I hear Hello Kitty doesn't have troll groups. 😜
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@NoShinyPony said:
Looping is a core mechanic of DbD and one main aspect what makes this game unique and why so many people love this game.
Not for everyone, but for the majority of people the chase is the fun part.
If the devs would put more focus on stealth, this game wouldn't be DbD anymore and a lot of people would quit playing it.
Well for some looping is the greatest but for others it's not and they could give stealth much more support so both types of players on both sides could enjoy it. I mean some killers complain about looping now but if stealthy play keeps getting whacked/not supported loopers are going to be 100% more common.
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@PigNRun said:
Im having a hard time distinguishing between @powerbats and @Poweas . Can either of you go back to the Trapper avatar? :P (I think that was powerbats)I was trapper for quite some time then took over leadership of the Leatherface mafia.
Just think of bats in your belfry to distinguish us. 😁
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@BACKSTABBER said:
@powerbats said:
The most evil one I've seen is Leader, Prove Thyself, Streetwise and Bond with BNP's and the top tier TB with fast repair addons.nothing personal, kid, but Leader does not provide faster repair speed (according to wiki, picture below), although yes, it is enabled for some reason when I am doing gens and a leader approaches, bug?
and Bond, nothing to do with repairing fast
@Aven_Fallen already commented on Leader and as far as Bond goes it's for when someone's in a chase so you know if the killers close.
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
That's bullshit. Watch Marth88's depip squad.
Got to tru3ta1ents channel NOW he uploaded a video where you can see what survivors can do if they play optimal.
If you never get genrushed it doesn't mean you are to good for this game. It just shows that you usually encounter potatoe survivors. Period.No what you're posting is cow patties, since the depip squad experiment is over a year old, the games improved for killers. Then there's the fact that those were 4 pro caliber players each with several k hours played.
Then add in the fact that they even admitted they were going against baby killers aka killers doing dailies on killers they didn't know how to play.
You just totally lost all credibility and now i know you're just trying to troll since it was already pointed out to you he was playing perkless and addon less as a Doctor and he played BADLY.
Ah yes the typical troll excuse when you can't refute make up excuses line that you fought potatoes, it's never you were good. You again lose any credibility with that excuse since it just proves you don't even believe what you say and are just grasping at straws now.
To use your own logic against you Marth isn't a very good killer when he 4k's because he's obviously facing potatoes. Monto when he did over 100 straight games and 4k'd in all 100 games straight was obviously facing potatoes then using your logic.
If we take your logic further than anytime any killer gets more than 2k at any rank it's because they were facing potatoes.
I'll leave you to the other people that're highly experienced with killers to get laughs out that logic.
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I actually had a toxic streamer killer side get mad because they kept trying to be fancy and show off on Nurse and as soon as I popped the 3rd gen and started to heal they quit.
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@Raizinz said:
You're ignoring the disparity here and christ stop using "skill" and "map knowledge" as interchangeable terms, there is nothing skillful in running towards a pallet that you know is there. The fact that you're suggesting that the killer must incorporate extra effort on top of already being disadvantaged in mobility is mind-numbing.
That said, procedural generation of pallets would resolve this overnight, as survivors won't be able to reliably run to the nearest loop while still keeping the same amount of pallets on the mapActually there is something skillful in running to a pallet you know is there since you have to make sure you're pathing is good to be able to reach it safely. If you make a mistake and get stuck on something, barrel, wall, tree stump etc you're screwed.
While procedural would help you'd have to do what @DocOctober said and add more stealth options since otherwise the survivors screwed. Also you've got more base movement speed, you can get bloodlusted, you can break said pallets.
You can hit the survivors and injure them and not the other way around, once destroyed those pallets are gone for good. You have perks that help, killers that deal with it quite easily and you can easily mind game some of them.
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My brain is drawing a blank on all the witty things I could say right now so i'll just leave the meme for now.
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@Tsulan said:
cookiedal said:
Boss said:Ahh, the good ol' "Allow us to do the wrong thing that they did first."
Would you play a game with a killer or survivor that dc's constantly in the matches after being aware of who they are before the match starts?
That's why they ban people that disconnect to much.
Oh wait, consoles...Blame the greedy misers at Microsoft and Sony mainly Sony since Microsoft has probably agreed to it but Sony's being greedy/Scroogy probably still.
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@fluffybunny said:
I would say maybe having it a mix of gens and safely unhooking people, but I still kinda like my slower entrance idea as it would mean the survivor would need to sneak into it rather than just jump in freely. It SHOULD be harder to get a hatch escape than a door one as the situation is so much more dire.
It's already harder for them to get in because they can easily get grabbed if the killer is close and sliding might be too difficult to code since it's not in the game now due to the limitations.
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@KissyKissy said:
I 100% agree. For me, one teabag is fine. Two teabags is fine. But when a squad of these people are doing it constantly, they're getting dropped and im gonna hover over their corpse till they bleed out while I nod my head.I don't know what it is about being a survivor which promotes their behavior. When I play survivor, I never have the urge to be obnoxious.
I rarely if ever tea bag unless the killers extremely toxic then i'll do it at the gates once or twice and I don't really get bothered by people doing it in game.
Some do it as a sign of that was close when you almost got them while others are trying to upset you because the more upset you become the worse you play.
Then there's the last 2 types of people that do it.
The type that doesn't know it's toxic and or have seen their favorite streamer do it.
This type is the worst of the two since these are the ones that watch toxic streamers and know it's toxic and do it. These will also dc the moment you down them just like their toxic streamer does.
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@Poweas said:
@ForeheadSurviors said:
That perk honestly is only good on wraith, and its completely useless. Actually all of myers perks are uselessSTBFL is very good on every killer. .-. Dying light is amazing on Nurse.
This STBFL is really good on quite a few killers Amanda and Trapper are 2 that are underutilized with it and there's nothing scarier than seeing a super fast pig chasing you.
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@Master said:
Because you didnt upgrade to PCWell played.
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@Poweas said:
Ok thanks. I hope they make crows more reliable soon. ^^
Calm Spirit says hi. 😁
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The most evil one I've seen is Leader, Prove Thyself, Streetwise and Bond with BNP's and the top tier TB with fast repair addons.
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
I wanna see him vaultibg over pallets lol.Lets see if they break.
He belly flops on them to break them instead.
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Marth isn't a survivor main. He is/was a killer main. Don't know about the others. I agree that the game changed to the favour of killers. But with next "rush thyself" buff its going 2 steps back I guess
That doesn't change the fact that he and the others know how to play survivors extremely well and if he wasn't very good as a survivor Depip would've lost every game in the tourney.
Also the rush thyself bug just stop with that nonsense, that's a bug and it's already been stated IT'S NOT GOING LIVE. You lost any credibility with that one right there and I'm surprised @SenzuDuck didn't catch that.
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@fluffybunny said:
Yeah, I know what you mean. They need to do something about the end game. It feels a bit too unrewarding and brain dead. Often the worst player (who's camping the hatch) gets it. I mean, I understand the hatch is present due to instilling hope into the survivors, but I'm sure counter play could be added in or it could just be completely changed. Like they are required to slowly go down the hatch instead of just hopping in. I dunno how to fix it, honestly. Just some ideas.
Well for someone that does nothing all game it shouldn't allow an escape, you've had to have either done at least 1 gen, unhooked someone SAFELY, healed someone 1 health state or done a combo of totems etc.
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@Poweas said:
@powerbats said:
@Gorgonia said:
Ive been enjoying using the fireworks on cloaked wraiths...
So far mine have been buggy on every except the last 2 matches i faked out a Cloaked Wraith and royally pissed off a P3 Hag who was about to down me due to HG. I then really pissed her off by crawling away for like 10 seconds or so before she found me.
She hooked me then proceeded to show me her slat storage by repeatedly smacking me on the hook, I just did nothing while she did that and 2 gens popped. I also escaped after pallet slamming her 3x even with erh Spirit Fury.
What Hag runs Spirit fury? #########? Hag isn't meant to be played like that.
Yeah I got a laugh out of it which made her smacking people on hooks even funnier.
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@JJRULEZ159 said:
You want an earned 4k? Ok how about getting 3k at 2 gens done, and losing the 4k purely because the survivor went afk essentially, and I didn't want to have to spend 3 hours on a hatch standoff? I knew the location of the hatch, the survivor didn't, but I couldn't find them, I was using a lvl 1 nurse, what could I have done to "earn" that 4k? Waste more time?
Well you could've slugged the 3rd person, you could've run whispers like so many other Nurses do and again you felt entitled to the 4k because you couldn't find them.
You were also a level 1 killer so you can't complain about not being able to find someone I mean good grief a level 1 killer and you still 3k'd and you're complaining because you didn't get a 4k.
If you got 3k with a level 1 killer that's above average now granted if you're at newbie ranks Nurse is going to do well usually.
You're upset because you didn't get your 4k because you knew where the hatch was and they didn't well guess what you can always go look for them. The only one to blame for a 3 hour hatch standoff is you at that point if it gets to that level of time wasted.
In the amount of time you spent writing this post you'd have already started a new match and earned more blood points. I don't do hatch standoffs, I show them where it's at if it was a good game, if not I go look for them.
If I've gotten 3 and one gets out I still won and I still got way more bp than they did, and the entity is pleased with me.
Again you're not entitled to a 4k in any way shape or form anymore than the survivors are entitled to having all 5 gens pop on their own. No one not even the pro's 4k every game, except Monto who did a challenge but that was rare.
You'll have games where you wreck kitchen and games where you don't but when you 4k them and no gens get done you're not going to come to the forums and complain about that though.
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@Justicar said:
@tt_ivi_99 said:
Pallet looping takes skill, as killer you should try and improve your mindgames.This is exactly the problem with so much of this game. A killer is supposed to be power role, and shouldn't be reliant on mindgames. They should be an extra tool, but not necessary.
Yet killers like Myers are all about mind games and I mean look at Friday the 13th how he mind gamed so well.
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@Gorgonia said:
Ive been enjoying using the fireworks on cloaked wraiths...So far mine have been buggy on every except the last 2 matches i faked out a Cloaked Wraith and royally pissed off a P3 Hag who was about to down me due to HG. I then really pissed her off by crawling away for like 10 seconds or so before she found me.
She hooked me then proceeded to show me her slat storage by repeatedly smacking me on the hook, I just did nothing while she did that and 2 gens popped. I also escaped after pallet slamming her 3x even with erh Spirit Fury.
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Survivors with no perks and no addons can stomp the sweaty killers with their best addons and best perks. Reference: perkless+addonless depip squad of Marth88.
That's the issue. And that needs to change.
4 pro players each with 4k hours or so going against as they even admitted baby killers doing dailies on killer they don't know how to play isn't a valid experiment.
That was also well over a year ago or so and the game has changed dramatically and Monto I believe it was played over 100 games and 4k'd every game straight.
If someone wants to do a depip experiment it should be based upon the AVERAGE player skill level not the ultra pro swat team.
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Oh and here's the original in it's entirety for those that don't know about it, total classic.
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@PhantomMask20763 said:
KiraElijah said:
PhantomMask20763 said:
KiraElijah said:
PhantomMask20763 said:
KiraElijah said:
PhantomMask20763 said:
KiraElijah said:
PhantomMask20763 said:
ChesterTheMolester said:I sneek typos in many posts i qoute to make you look stopid.
Wat y?! You meani
U steeling his idias?
Na, jus did on. Mor for hmm than anyone else.
Dn’t misqout m e!
KiraElijah is awesome
I'm gay for @ChesterTheMolester
I’m gay for @Vietfox
I'm gay for @powerbats
Aww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XNr-BQgpd0I just had to. 😁
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@KiraElijah said:
Mushwin said:@KiraElijah i understood, but don't try and pull it off as a joke, when it wasn't....maybe don't go saying the word jerk when trying to pull off a joke or getting a point across....just a suggestion smiles have a nice day
I guess you know nothing of how people where I’m from talk? We use that word jokingly. There are different terms for when we mean it
Just use the jk/joking
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@Master said:
PC, but im really low rank on both roles now since I rarely play anymore.
I stopped playing DBD regularly after the last farming-event, that was a huge turn off for meYeah the last farming event did go a bit overboard and while I like to farm during such events throwing yourself at the hook after getting your vial wasn't it. I wanted the killer to get chase points, damage gen, hits etc not just here let me get hooked once and suicide immediately.
Having Legion has definitely spiced things up but then you get P3 omega blink nurses in green ranks and you just facepalm.
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@Master said:
@powerbats said:
@Master said:
So because someone can get to rank 1 means the skilled players don't belong there whya gain? Now if it's so easy then why are there people stuck at rank 16-20 and everyone isn't at rank 1?
The point is that there's people at rank 1 that belong there and not everyone is a potato survivor side just because the killer does good.
That's always the excuse of last resort when someone does good on a killer since you can't refute that a good killer can and does win against good survivors.
You dont get my point.
Of course there are skilled players at rank 1 that belong there (marth etc), but fact is that the majority of players who already made it to rank 1 should haver never been able to reach the highest rank in the first place.
Can you claim that you achived the highest rank (grand master, champion or whatever) in any other competitive game?And yes, I believe that I dont belong to rank 1 either, but still I can make it up there really fast if I want to
Yes I can claim i've made it to the top in other games before and i've even won tournaments in real life and beat out the touring pro's in those tournaments. While I agree there's people that don't belong in rank 1 survivor side it's not solely because of the pip system.
There's people that're boosted, bought accounts, hacked accounts, then you've got the ones that also got there because the killer afk'd the entire match.
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I liked the old one as well and I'm wondering if the chane was the result of the way the new engine update handles things.
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@DocOctober said:
@NoShinyPony said:
The Game has a super low amount of windows, therefore there need to be pallets, otherwise the areas on the map would be a dead zone from the beginning and the survivors would have no chance.A lot of those pallets are safe and the killer needs to destroy them. If the survivor knows how to run, the killer will often only catch up to him after 4/5 gens are done.
Conclusion: Map design should be reworked by either swapping pallets for windows or by creating more mindgame opportunites around pallets.
Or improve stealth. The map is too bright and staying hidden or losing line of sight is quite difficult.
I've suggested darker maps and more stealth options but then the P3 Claudette and not wanting to have to play a stealth game complaints come up. I suck at looping and try not to do it often unless it's a Billy trying to hold his chainsaw up charged behind me. Those I'll loop into oblivion because i'm not going to give them an easy cheesy down like that.
For me I love a good stealth and evade game where the killer has to actually outthink me and figure out where I've skulked off to. I've had lots of killers compliment me on my evasion skills since they'd know i was there on that gen but couldn't ever find me.
But for all the killers that like a good hunt there's plenty more that just want survivors to run around in the open even if they complain about the end result being looping.
I'd be all for removing some more pallets if there was more ways to actually stealth off and Ormond is a prime example of not happening. I'm not advocating Red Forest type maps across the board but even swamp has gotten so much harder to stealth on.
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
powerbats said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Errr.. HOW do you want to hook someone if the hooks are getting sobed? Please don't say hangman's trick, Killer can't waste a slot for this perk.
It's actually a really good perk when you see 2 or more toolboxes because you let them sabo the hook drop the person and patrol around. They waste time trying to bait you to leave so they can go in for a quick rez, hook re-spawns you hook said victim.
Then guess what you've got a target rich environment close to the hooked person and if they get unhooked when you're close well there's a fresh victim again.
Or they use the toolboxes to genrush and you stand their wasted this perk for nothing while you could have used another perk to counter the genrush.
Then you still get a kill while they gen rush you or you whine about it like now and get gen rushed and get no kills. I manage to run it when I choose to and still can get 2k usually and if you're losing in 3 minutes that's on you.
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I'd say instead of a 2 hooks choice keep it one hook still but there's 2 special hooks on the map and no one knows what type will spawn until in game. So out of all the different types of hooks you never know which 2 can spawn.
The killer of course will see their 2 special hooks on the map same as gens and will have a warning when someone tries to sabo them at 50% reduced speed. The reason I went with 50% is because if someone brings a good TB in with sabo addons those hooks will get nuked.
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@Master said:
Playing solo survivor is so frustrating at the moment that I barely do it anymore. EIther your matched with a SWF that will leave you die such that they can escape or you get boosted survivors that dont actually belong into ranks above 15
You kidding? I love playing as solo survivor. There's no one talking, i'm 100% focused on what's going around me.
Try running this build: kindred, bond and open handed, is like if you were playing with friends. 4th perk is up to you, i run small game cause randoms don't care about totems.I tried solo survivor after a huge break. Three games were ruined by some idiots ragequitting, in two games my mates were completely afk and did no gen progress, in another game I was bodyblocked in a corner, then another game a survivor being chased by the killer ran to me clicking with his flashlight at me.......
I probably had 2-3 decent games and honestly, with the recent queue times on survivor its not worth my time
Is this Pc or console since I've had some horrible survivor matches lately more than normal for even right after reset.
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@Master said:
@ToxicFengM1n said:
@Master said:
@ToxicFengM1n said:
They have nerfed Decisive strike before, if you dont remember
Adjusted the "Decisive Strike" Perk (new values are 3/3.5/4 reduced from 3/4/5)No offense, but what is the purpose of this thread?
To show people that they have nerfed this perk before, because I seen before making this that devs are afraid to do anything to decisive strike and they have before, also I was hoping that this would reduce the amount of nerf decisive strike but that failed : (
DS is still BY FAR the strongest perk in the game.
Just because it already has received a nerf ages ago, that doesnt mean that its in the right spot now.While i rarely agree with him, Master is on point with this and most of us on both sides want it to get an adjustment of some kind.
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I use Rancor/Bitter Murmur/BBQ (if i'm farming for points)/Tinkerer (in it's place if not) M&A along with Prayer Beads and Yakuyoke Amulet for the most evil jumpscare build. If I see lots of medkits i'll swap out Tinkerer for NC.
I'll screw around with her 2 ultra rares and use Stridor/BloodHound/NC/and usually either Rancor or Bitter Murmur.
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@Master said:
Those stats are over 1 year old now.
SWF has drastically increased since thenSo where's your updated stats then since you never had a n issue using those very same stats when it suited your arguments.
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@Master said:
@powerbats said:
@Master said:
@fluffybunny said:
Bring Whispers and you'll know what area they're in if you're having issues like that. I don't believe that's actually holding the game hostage as you can in theory find them and end the game by killing them.You cant counter every broken game mechanic by using a perk. We dont have enough slots for that
You aren't entitled to your 4k stop whining about it, you want that 4k EARN IT!
Ah the 4k "argument"
Well since you can't refute that and you always resort to your typical fallacies I'll point that out since that's the end result anyways. You don't want to have to earn that 4th kill and want the survivor to be easily found, well go find them or runa perk then.
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@Master said:
So because someone can get to rank 1 means the skilled players don't belong there whya gain? Now if it's so easy then why are there people stuck at rank 16-20 and everyone isn't at rank 1?
The point is that there's people at rank 1 that belong there and not everyone is a potato survivor side just because the killer does good.
That's always the excuse of last resort when someone does good on a killer since you can't refute that a good killer can and does win against good survivors.
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@Detective_Jonathan said:
@powerbats said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
@powerbats said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
Are you forgetting that he called me out first? also, not a single insult was thrown at him
No I'm not and I forgot to tell him as well, and the insult was directed at me not him. Most of the regulars on here will tell you the same thing and him as well I simply forgot to tag him.
So then you should probably tag him then since he's the one who is feeling the need to call me out.
Aven's comment doesn't actually exist if it did at all since if you go check their profile and comments it's not there.
Racoon already knows the rules if your referring to them.
No i'm not i am referring to Horse Power.
If you try and pull up that comment it doesn't show as existing is my point for 1 and for 2 well he's been here long enough.
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@PigNRun said:
He is pairing it with Prayer Beads. They wont hear your heartbeat from when you phase, your phasing sound and your heartbeat after phasing (unless you land next to them).
Exactly and if you pair that with Tinkerer and Bitter Murmur you're just plain evil and i also use Rancor to mind game the obsession.
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@Master said:
@fluffybunny said:
Bring Whispers and you'll know what area they're in if you're having issues like that. I don't believe that's actually holding the game hostage as you can in theory find them and end the game by killing them.You cant counter every broken game mechanic by using a perk. We dont have enough slots for that
You aren't entitled to your 4k stop whining about it, you want that 4k EARN IT!
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@Poweas said:
I played Spirit with yellow addons and got bullied btw. I'm starting to think she's far too addon reliant to actually be good without them. She deserves a 12 sec cooldown at base.
Try playing her with brown addons and then complain lol, yes she's addon dependent to an extent but playing with the lessers makes you better. I like to run 2 different addon builds on her depending on perk loadout and what i see in lobby.
Both her ultra rares are nice but my favorite is Prayer Beads and Yakuyoke Amulet, throw in Bitter Murmur, Rancor, Tinkerer, and M&A and go jumpscare happy to pieces.
What I found is that if you practice a lot with the brown addons you learn to play better since your margin of error is way less. You have to play much smarter and more sneaky and M&A is great for that since you've got to get a lot closer.
Whispers is also good with brown addons along with Stridor, Bloodhound and NC.
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@Cetren said:
In either case its NOT the entire game though. Its even shorter when the notification pops up prematurely for hitting an injured survivor.
That's the price of running a hex perk, you take the good with the bad and the risk with the rewards.
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Errr.. HOW do you want to hook someone if the hooks are getting sobed? Please don't say hangman's trick, Killer can't waste a slot for this perk.
It's actually a really good perk when you see 2 or more toolboxes because you let them sabo the hook drop the person and patrol around. They waste time trying to bait you to leave so they can go in for a quick rez, hook re-spawns you hook said victim.
Then guess what you've got a target rich environment close to the hooked person and if they get unhooked when you're close well there's a fresh victim again.
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@Swiftblade131 said:
But, you can like... Loop him for a century. Even if he gets T3...It depends on the map tile and how good the Myers player is.
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@Master said:
@powerbats said:
@MegChicken said:
Myerinodudd said:You need to patrol gens more.Also survivors doing their objective and maybe they opened chest or did 2-3 totems it is not called gen rush. I am sorry but it means you are bad at killer.(even the community manager said these things to me)
Telling people to patrol gens is the dumbest excuse out there. You need to chase survivors, and when the matches depend on the survivors mistakes (high ranks) you can’t chase and patrol a generator. It’s not possible.
Telling people not to patrol gens is why you lose the game, if you ignore gens you lode plain and simple and good rief the fallacy usage. It's amazing that rank 1 killers can patrol gens, chase and still get 4k even perkless Freddy's.
Mhm yeah its amazing how broken the ranking system is
Yep I mean Marth can get to rank 1, rue can, panda can I mean all these great players cna get to rank one and do well so the ranking system must obviously be broken.
It's almost as if good players can't do well against other good players at rank one because they know how to patrol better, when to chase and when not to chase etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14KTu4i27j8