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@inkedsoulz said:
Everyone should derank to rank 15.
And while doing so ruin a lot of games for a lot of other people.
Then play at rank 15 and bully newer killers/survivors.
Some of those new players might leave the game forever.
Maybe at that moment BHVR will do something about this dcing and deranking thing, since it will(probably already) make them lose customers.Hmmn the old adage about 2 wrongs don't make a right seems to come to mind here and yes let's ruin the
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I think it'd just get abused as it's currently done with MLGA and lobby dodging and human nature being what it is people would get tempted to abuse it. You've also got the issue with confirmation bias and negative feedback with memories.
You tend to remember the bad games and not the good games more so say you have a really bad game but the next isn't. You'll probably remember that game as being bad and thus want to block people who you think were toxic.
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@Someissues said:
Its fine, people that are saying it should be bannable are all Survivor mainsSurvivors can already fight low rank Killers (EG Rank 15-20 Killers) being rank 1, by queueing with another friend that is low rank.So 3 rank 1 survivor + 1 rank 18 survivor friend will vs a Rank 20 Killer. That is BS and this has not been fixed
Why should i get punished to play at high rank when most of the killers are trash? and that i am forced to play competitive killers, i dont want to play Nurse everygame thank you
no ranking incentive, no ranking rewards, nothing, until they added incentive for ranking there is no reason to rank up, queues are longer, games are much harder and stressful, the game just isnt fun anymore
Yes because it's always survivors and never killers saying or doing this, do you ever stop with the nonsense on this stuff?
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Oh and there's nothing scarier than a speedy Myers with Infinite Evil III and Tombstone right behind you running Spirit Fury.
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@MegaWaffle said:
@Dead_by_David said:
No, this pill is hard to swallow.
Sorry to tell you but that's a suppository.
You forgot to add in the that's the Freddy version, the DS version is 10x that size.
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I get it from both sides and shrug it off mostly since it's quite often just blowing off steam after a tough game. The real toxic ones get a report of course since those are the ones that need to get stopped before they get worse.
If anything I laugh to myself and then just move onto the next game.
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@perotx said:
Dying Light is already a pretty weak perk, that would only nerf it further since you can never get the full 25%, unless you kill all 4 survivors and win the game.Add a 5th survivor just so you can get the 25%? 😁
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It's from the Alienware contest and the direct link is here and it's by Isadore.
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People have been predicting the end to League of Legends since it came out and now look where it is.
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@RuneStarr said:
What, that's all I do with friends. Sandbag olympics is fun AF. Toss on Bond, Object of Obsession and Pebble and see who makes it out alive.I don't do that to randoms though because it's only fun when you have your friend screaming obscenities at you on mic
Cough @not_Queen cough Pebble cough Conor cough. 😜
Yes doing it with friends in games is always funny and doing it with your children is even funnier since my sons always used to do it to me in games.
Now that flashlight clicking was evil and I've had ppl sandbag me like that not because I was UEing around map like they were but because they wanted me instead of them hooked.
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In all seriousness though lively discussions means the community is actively engaged and involved and you want that in your community. If the forums turned into Hello Kitty level of discussions the devs would be seriously concerned.
While some of us bash each other left and right on here most of us don't take it seriously when having our discussions. We all care about the game and all want to see it improved and we just don't always agree on how to do that.
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@fluffybunny said:
@ChesterTheMolester I don't think that many would actually use it like that, but to avoid toxic people. I think only the ones you would want to avoid would use it like that. The ones who flame in end chat.@powerbats They have an issue with that due to people being able to see other's IP. I'm sure there's a way to incorporate in in-game system based on profiles rather than IP, which wouldn't be as dangerous.
Well then you'd still be doding based upon someone the same as ip only much more accurate at that point and while some would use it to legitimately avoid toxic players on both sides. It'd get abused by some on both sides just as they do with MLGA now due to getting outplayed by either side, outfits, items etc.
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I have to laugh about this because i see killers do the exact same thing the moment survivors are about to escape they quit. The hex totem cleansed before thy get 2 hooks, quit, don't like the map, quit, don't like the offerings quit etc.
Both sides do it and neither side is full of angels when it comes to this and when you go full on nuke build like that you run that risk. That doesn't make their quitting any less wrong but you brought the equivalent of multiple DS's.
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@Khroalthemadbomber said:
-chuckles- not to down play you, but if you think game forums will only ever hold nice, constructive criticism then you obviously weren't around for Vanilla WoW forums...Those were the days, I can still remember quite a few of the ahem more lively discussions from then.
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@NoShinyPony said:
@Ryuhi said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
additional blinks addons of nurse
Absolutely busted, not only you cover much more distance even without range addons, but also you got as survivor 0 chance to win a chase. Remove it, it's healthier for DbD.Prayers beats addon of spirit
Seriously, this addon is busted. Getting free grabs at gens is stupid af. Takes 0 skill to use and has an reward like NOED. Even more than noed, cuz u don't even waste time chasing.
Prayer beads, while absurdly strong, do still require skill as you can't see the survivor so you have to guess between 1-4 placements where the survivor you're trying to grab is.
Survivors have collision, you know exactly on which position they are sitting. It isn't skill.
I agree with OP on that, Prayer Beads in its current state is not o.k. The only "counter" would be to gen tap and that's of course out of the question. Make the Walk more quiet but not completely silent.
I main Spirit and have no issues fighting one using them, it's all about situational awareness when facing her really. I've never been surprise grabbed of a gen by one using them yet and you can watch for grass moving etc.
Now even if she does sneak up on you she can't grab you unless she's perfectly angled in relation to you and will instead iether miss or get a hit only. You can also feel the nudge and can stop working on the gen and also try and move some.
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Wait for rank reset and wait another day or 2 for all the people rushing back to rank 1 from 10 etc and you'll have an easier time. I made the mistake of trying to do Adept Freddy at rank 1 when I'd not really played him at all.
That didn't end well so after deranking all the way to 6 I stopped playing him haha.
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@DocOctober said:
A Perk that often gets destroyed within the first minute of the game is OP. Sure........Yeah most games it doesn't last long but there's been a few recently where it either went the full game or at least 5 minutes and only 1 or no gens done. It's really feast or famine with nothing in the middle sadly.
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
Lets be homest those kind of system would find way more abuse in the sense of "Good killer/survivor = dodge".Basically an MLGA tool?
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Both sides use it and both sides are going to have to learn to live without it once the dedicated servers come out because it won't work anymore.
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@Master said:
If you wanna do somethign against this, then you need to play nurse.
You can also play Spirit and as @TheTrapper said Hag etc who also do well against pallets or use the perks and also map knowledge is key.
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Most of my lobbies have been either very quick or get instant dodged the moment killer either sees your name, MLGA kicks in, they check profiles, and or don't like the clothing.
For the ones that don't dodge games are generally good for both sides, lots of good chases and escapes and killer outplays.
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I've been seeing people dc a lot and Legion seems to be causing most of the dc's now especially if they just tunnel the entire game. I even had people do it against a Trapper and a Billy recently so the Billy got us all with no gens done.
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@Bbbrian2013 said:
@Killigma said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
@Killigma said:
Que times are not even that bad currently, they used to be worse. Red ranks you see a longer que time but nothing ridicules. What rank are you and how long on average are you waiting?1 and 20-30 minutes
Jesus, where do you live? The moon? 30 odd minutes...
Eastern US. I play in the am. Like right now it's 6 30 am and takes 30 minutes on PS4
Ok that explains a lot i'm West Coast and before region lock removal I could wait anywhere from 5-30 minutes for a game. That didn't include all the lobby dodging from 2 AM PST to 4 AM PST and now it's still bad during those hours but it's better.
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@AshleyWB said:
@powerbats to be fair I don't blame you for not being willing to understand in the first place. For a community issue the dbd dev team are really taking their time making it clear what we've all been arguing about.I hate to point fingers but points finger this problem is down to the devs ignoring the problem again and again. I fear they'll brush it under the carpet again until the next person (FW) comes along and does something similar. This is an important issue and always has been.
I'm willing to give them some slack on this due to everything happening so close to holidays and massive patch update and now the engine issues etc. I think them focusing on the more pressing matters is more important atm than dealing with the Fog one.
That said they're aware of it and are addressing it and once they go to the next step of getting more people it'll probably be more clear. My guess is mid to late February is when we should see a more definitive approach and guidelines come down with teeth.
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@AshleyWB said:
Just for the record I personally pop in and out of a lot of the big streamers streans from time to time. I'm kinda a neutral and I'm all for you having fun. To destroy other people's fun is selfish and thats my gripe with this issue.Ok thanks for clarifying and sorry for my post I was way off base there and didn't get to say what I wanted to say properly.
I'm hopeful that once they get the kinks out that those who're either chosen for or still in the fog program uphold the goals of the BHVR team. If she's in fact been warned it means they're aware of it and are letting people know it's not ok.
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@ZoneDymo said:
@AlphaJackson said:
Lmao, that was a funny rant to read. You do realise however that this whole rant is the definition of our toxic ass community, love the one hit wonder man. Keep it up, for real tho, if you dont like it stop playing, or deal with them. If you can get over the complaining about every little detail you might find yourself having fun. How do you expect to enjoy the game if you complain so much? Just get over either yourself, or the game and enjoy it.Things being fundamentally flawed about a product has little to do with "Getting over yourself".
That implies the problem lies with you which... it doesnt.If you can suck it all up, great... I guess?, go enjoy the game, you should take your own advice really.
But dont try to stop people from expressing themselves and hopefully changing something about the game.Yes the game is fundamentally flawed according to you 2 and obviously the op is an angel and can do no wrong. I mean that entire rant looks like someone new to the game on the survivor side wrote it.
I mean it's not like Hag's, Clowns, Trappers, and others don't exist to deal with loopers, it's not like looping hasn't been nerfed. It's not like cow trees got nerfed as looping spots, shack got 1 window closed off, barn got windows closed off.
It's not like multiple looping spots aren't there anymore or that the ones that're left aren't so good anymore. IT's almost as if all the positive changes that happened to help killers never happened.
Now since we know these changes did in fact happen that means it's the op's skills as a killer that are the real issue here. What we need is the Doctor meme to make an appearance.
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@kimukipi said:
@powerbats Your responses doesn't make any sense to what OP is saying here. To clear the air, there is a certain "Fog Whisperer" who does self rank reset almost every single day with reasoning as "variety" and then goes against low rank killers with all the meta perks and swf to "entertain" the stream. Do you get the picture? For one, she leaves a lot of matches to get to those ranks which obviously ruins other survivor experiences during those games (no excuses). Second, I do believe that ranks matter. Yes, there are bad/good players at every rank but the odds are very high. A rank 1 survivor with thousands of hours de-ranking and going against a rank 12 killer is in no way healthy for the game. Same applies for high rank killers de-ranking and bullying low rank survivors. The cause for recent drama is that this is not just any streamer, its a "Fog Whisperer" who is supposed to be a shining example for the community promoting healthy play styles. Streamers have huge influence on the community. Remember certain dUdE and the thousands of wannabees that followed his playstyle? No one wants to dictate how you play the game after all you paid for it. BUT, when you are an influencer and is among the elite community representatives that get exclusive stuff and benefits, at least have the basic courtesy of not ruining the community. Admittedly, I do believe BHVR need to make their stance clear on what a Fog Whisperer means to avoid the dramas. Do they get a free pass for their mistakes? Is De-ranking on purpose totally fine?
My response wasn't in relation to the op but to someone else that had nothing to do with the Fog Whisperers program because the person obviously has an axe to grind against a CM.
Now you're obviously referring to Jendenise here but let me ask everyone here something that has been bashing her long before this. How many games does she leave beyond just her streams because if she's leaving as much as people say she'd be banned.
But obviously she plays a lot of games off stream as well and no i'm not defending her leaving games to derank. i think before the program goes live officially they need to put that into the contract you can't do stuff like that.
Now here's another one to ask, how many other steamers are you and everyone else bashing on here or anywhere else for leaving etc? It seems certain streamers are immune from being called out for being toxic because they're popular.
I'll state this again I don't approve of deranking or leaving games like they're doing, I don't approve of any kind of toxicity. But all the people bashing her WHY THE F*CK ARE YOU WATCHING HER IN THE 1ST PLACE???????
I mean seriously if people hate her and what she's doing so much stop watching her and giving her views and instead simply state you think what she's doing is wrong. Once you've done it once then don't ever watch her again until she changes.
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The changes i'd like to see in no particular order.
You don't start the trial in the injured state like currently but have the exposed effect.
Thanatobia isn't triggered on you until the 1st time you're downed.
Once you've been downed then No Mither will show up on the killers screen but in game the other survivors see you have the exposed effect so they can plan accordingly.
Bonus BP should only be rewarded by stages, so if you were never downed you get 100% bonus to the survival category.
If you got downed but not hooked and escape 75%, downed and hooked 50% and so on down to zero perhaps if you do safe unhooks then you get 25% back up to 75%.
That last part would reward you for playing so risky but also you'd have to ensure that you got a safe unhook to the point you'd have to take the hit.
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You mean the helicopter bob that's both annoying and funny at the same time?
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Well to each her or his own it must be held true, let people run what they want to run and give suggestions on things to try. I don't run SB anymore except on certain undergeared toons and same for UE unless it's a special build.
I'll occasionally run CS/SO/SC/PM but I might just throw in Pebble along with Stakeout since those will go well together.
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@Hex_Flex said:
@powerbats said:
@Hex_Flex You need to blur the names and the offensive stuff out aka censor since it violates several forum rules.Also hopefully you reported them post game.
noted. the names were obviously temporary swf re-names. I don't really report anybody for language, doesn't bother me lol.
While most of the stuff said post game doesn't bother me either that type of stuff should get reported otherwise they won't get punished and may evolve into worse things.
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Well how long has he been out though compared to say other hard to get achievements that people either sitl don't have or took forever. I can think of Myers Evil III and Huntress long ranged downs as 2.
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@Master said:
BHVR trying to ignore the endgame problem effectively for 3years nowMaster still trying to troll after 3 years and blame everything on anyone and anything besides himself.
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@Hex_Flex You need to blur the names and the offensive stuff out aka censor since it violates several forum rules.
Also hopefully you reported them post game.
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Cemetery with a Grave digger as the killer and his mori is he buries you alive.
Castle type map with hidden rooms/passageways with the former one way in and one way out so if you get caught in there you're screwed. The latter if the killers in there they have zero terror radius until leaving the hidden passageway.
Amusement park would be nice for the Clown to basically get his own special type of map.
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Well imagine this, a survivor is walking or crouching near the totem yet doesn't know it's there and they're trying to avoid the killer. Now the killer basically has Scratched Mirror Myers and free hit/down just because they're close enough to it.
You're inside the killer shack and you decide to go into basement for loot or a save and there's a totem outside well the killer just got free Territorial on you.
The idea is nice but the drawbacks make it way overpowered instead of fixing the main problem which is spawn locations and heights etc.
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@Boss said:
I remember one time where i escaped and one of my fellow Survivors who died with meta Perks trash-talked me, saying i was a noob for running Spine Chill...Which helped me survive...
While they died running meta...
I've not run Spine chill but had same for UE and Premonition both at once and individually, I escaped through exit or hatch while they died. When the killer doesn't find you but you still manage to do gens, unhooks, heals, totems and escape you're at fault still.
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@Aari_Piggy66 said:
Did just refer to this self care change as a nerf.
You do know with that change combined with botany knowledge you heal faster than you would have someone else was healing you.
( thank god it's not going into the live version)Some people still seem to think that is going live and say survivors are getting massively buffed this patch despite being told the facts.
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@AshleyWB said:
@powerbats how many times did you use the word joking😄 I'm going insane reading it over and over again. I agree with your view on things. But playing to sabotage your teammates is a no no for me.If you're talking about Cono* and pebbling each other that's all fun and games and is ok because everyone is in on it. But if you're trying to sabo a teammate not part of it it really depends on did they sabo you before?
I mean I don't go out of my way to purposely screw people over but if someone sandbags me I'll throw a pebble in their general direction occasionally.
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Give her a teacher outfit as well with a super giant ruler and her mori for that would be she whacks you with it.
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@Master said:
@GHERBEARRULES said:
Run franklins and lightborn. DoneAs standard loadout?
But what about the other 8 counter perks you need to take?
But but but you can see what they have and if you expect it just take a mori and done.
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Being called a toxic Claudette too immersed in the game by both sides because I wouldn't blindly run down the middle of the map in full view of the camping killer for the save.
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@Milo said:
@fluffybunny said:
@Milo said:
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@Milo said:
Im tilted for doing the stupid achievement... I need to take a break from it lolWhich one?
Taking One For The Team
Isn't that the one you can achieve while body blocking the hook? I haven't gotten it yet. xD Thought I did, but that's okay. Most of those you'll get with time I believe.
The fact is: bodyblocking doesn't count.
The survivor must be on their feet. So basically only farming works for this achievYeah that one is also super picky for the conditions for it to activate in over 600 hours of survivor playing at least I'm not even halfway.
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@HURRI_KAIN While you bring up some good points you completely shoot yourself full of holes the moment you start tossing insults like talking to children or noob killers. Just remember that the people here run the gamut from teens to fossils and casuals to multi k hour players.
Some of us play both sides and do so well while others only play 1 side well and everyone's got an opinion just like you.
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@Warlock_2020 said:
@powerbats said:
If your community managers can't stream while being good examples, how can you expect so called fog whisperers? Very bad standard set there. That's why I play the game for fun, and put zero stock/weight in performance of myself or anyone else in the game. Too much toxicity ruins it all.
If you're talking about someone with a cat or cats then you need to remember that person is streaming on their own time and also laughs at their own mistakes. also they're not worst then most streamers because they're not racist/homophobic, they don't tell people to kill themselves, etc.
Not confirming one way or the other as to who it is, but based on what you said, that would not be an excuse if it were. When you are known to work for a company and are even playing that company's game, you are being associated with that company. You are a face of that company. I have standards I'm held to due to where I work. If I start streaming and my face is in there, or I use my social media and those on it know where I work, I'm held to a standard of behavior. When someone is claiming they are on their own time, and they are mocking customers of the company they work for without sufficient reason to do so, that is a huge negative to that company.
BHVR has shown a ton of creativity in this game, but an absolute lack of discipline that has allowed huge holes in gameplay and a very toxic community. This game should have a couple hundred thousand people playing it at a time because of how enjoyable it could be. Unfortunately, it has lots of holes that create very toxic gameplay and a toxic community. The game's own employees often do nothing to help that. It is a shame, because this could be a much more rich community and game.
While I can agree and understand there is such a thing as sarcasm and joking and if you're going to use someone joking about things in a joking manner it implies something more. If they're mocking someone for a bad save in a joking manner or themselves or the killer it's fine.
It's an issue when they get to racism, homophobia, sexual stuff, death threats and all the really nasty types of things. But when someone is so obviously joking and people get offended by it when they do the exact same thing it becomes suspicious why they're complaining.
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I tend to see humour where other can't or won't see it so I tend to laugh much more and also get nailed doing while eating drinking.
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S+++++++ NEA nuff said.
