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  • > @DeadByFlashlight said: > > @AshleyWB said: > > Always doing something is what determines a good survivor from bad survivor. Too many bad survivors are at high ranks, they shouldn't be there.  > > > > Emblems should consider how much of the match you were actively doing something during a match.  > > I'm tired of being the one doing gens or whatever and getting hooked only for the rest of the survivors to be scared to even move a muscle. I always end up dying in most of these matches. > > Emblems have made piping too easy, I agree. It was way easier to pip before the emblem system was implemented so at least they’ve throttled it down more than it was
    in Penalize teammates for not doing anything Comment by lyric
  • fcc2014 said:

    Close it and go look for Claudette.

    I think she’ll spontaneously combust before I find her down there
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  • DeadByFlashlight said:

    How many survivor corpses did you find between those 800 degree pipes with a big smile on their face and back problems from tbagging during the standoff? :wink:

    Everyone but Dwight! He’s still down here hiding in a locker thinking it’s not over yet
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  • DeadByFlashlight said:

    @purebalance said:

    @DeadByFlashlight said:
    Ehm isnt PS4 where ochido is doing his work? :smile:

    One of the biggest difference between platforms is that the nurse and huntress are not (mostly not) played due to low fps and controller aim. This makes the game significantly easier for survivors on consoles.

    Also you ahve to keep in mind that the console community is not as old as the PC one and is still learning (especially PS4 since that free ps+ thing)

    Pretty sure he's on PC unless something has changed since Tru3Ta1ent has played him on occasion.

    PC has an edge naturally since being able to use a mouse is far more accurate than the Xbox or Ps4 controller. Granted both survivors and killers will have a mouse so it evens out, but the point stands.

    Ochido was perma hardware banned on PC, thats why he immigrated to PS4 where the devs still have no possibility to bann players.

    It doesnt matter whether you use m/K or controller for survivor, there are actually some survivors that play with controller on PC (even marth does that btw), so controller is basically a killer-only disadvantage

    Ochido isn’t even that good he plays against noobs and gets wrecked by his own rank when he plays them and says “killer OP nerf now”
    in PC, PS4, Xbox. Which gives a better DBD experience? Comment by lyric
  • Well_Placed_HexTotem said:
    Events and DLC and balance patches are nice, but when are some of the very core issues with the game on console going to be fixed? I own the game on PC too, it runs great. Yet even on the most powerful console ever, if I try to play killer, good luck. 

    It ruins the game against good survivors who already know how to extend a chase. Multiple times over the last week I’ve been chasing one of these survivors and during the chase have had chances to hit them only to get a massive, game freezing frame drop that allows them to escape to the safety of the next pallet or vault. 

    I was on Haddonfield last night chasing a Meg. I was Billy, I had no add ons equipped besides cooldown, somthere was very little chance for me to use my chainsaw. So I chase this Meg from pallet to pallet, vault to vault, ok that’s fine that’s the meta of the game. I mind game her into jumping a pallet back to me. I swing. Game freezes. By the time I can control Billy again the Meg is running off to a new loop. Two gens pop. Cool. So instead of the chase being half done, it’s as if it just started. 

    She loops me around a couole pallets that I break, I am running Fury and Enduring. She throws a pallet on me. It breaks instantly and she realizes she done f’d up. I corner her by some bushes behind a house and swing.... massive frame drop and game freezes. Two more gens pop. To be honest, that was the closest I’ve ever come to throwing my controller while playing a video game ever in over 30 years of gaming. 

    Finally i catch her twice and down her. I hook her. I turn to find others and the last gen pops. Both gates are near me so I decide that **** it, I’m getting a kill. So I close patrol that hook.

    Feng runs in for the unhook. I come around a tree fully revved, **** yes either Feng is going down or Meg is getting tunneled. Massive frame drop, game freezes. When it becomes playable again I realize I had chainsawed right into the tree to my right. Darn. How embarassing.

    I get the Feng down. Meg feels bad and goes for the save and I grab her and hook her. So in the end I got two kills. 

    But there are plenty of games where you get none, because of massive frame drops and lag that occurs EVERY SINGLE MATCH. When is this finally going to be fixed? Why years after release are we not able to use certain killers or play certain maps with confidence without worrying about performance of the game? 

    BHVR is not a small team with little resources. People don’t realize they’re a massive developer with many teams and loads of resources. This crap is unacceptable. I’m not spending another dime on DLC or cosmetics until the game becomes playable. 
    It’s because we aren’t on pc and the hardware is junk on console, they’re planning on improving this soon thank god
    in I have an Xbox One X. The game shouldn’t run like poop, yet it does Comment by lyric
  • Global said:

    @fcc2014 said:
    No you don't it may feel like that but you don't. The BNP are not even good anymore.

    They shouldnt even be ultra rare anymore xD

    I was just talking about this last night, it should only be a green offering at most now it’s garbage to have to spend 7000 for something like that
    in Survivors areop. Comment by lyric
  • DarkWo1f997 said:
    lyric said:
    mcNuggets said:

    @lyric said:
    DarkWo1f997 said:

    Could you imagine the reactions when people learned the hard way?

    When they T-bag three times while in the killer’s direct line of sight, they would suddenly see Michael take the tennis balls off the walker and be going nascar at them. 

    I’d be in tears. 

    I’m not saying to implement this, but it would be the greatest form of karma to ever manifest. 

    What’s the difference? You’re already in tears on the forum half the time wanting killer buffs and being unable to make it past the yellow ranks as a survivor 

    So you are implying survivor needs skill?
    I hit the red ranks without even being good a million times.
    Just go and get yourself a few gen rushers and you are rank 1 within hours.

    No not implying a thing I’m expressing the fact that he just posted he couldn’t make it past rank 13 survivor two days ago and here he is calling for a killer buff
    It’s not a buff, I said I don’t want it implemented I just think it would be funny. 
    I was referring to the hatchet idea lol but it would be even funnier if the killer could t bag back 
    in What if T-Bagging Acitvated Bloodlust 3? Comment by lyric
  • mcNuggets said:

    @lyric said:
    DarkWo1f997 said:

    Could you imagine the reactions when people learned the hard way?

    When they T-bag three times while in the killer’s direct line of sight, they would suddenly see Michael take the tennis balls off the walker and be going nascar at them. 

    I’d be in tears. 

    I’m not saying to implement this, but it would be the greatest form of karma to ever manifest. 

    What’s the difference? You’re already in tears on the forum half the time wanting killer buffs and being unable to make it past the yellow ranks as a survivor 

    So you are implying survivor needs skill?
    I hit the red ranks without even being good a million times.
    Just go and get yourself a few gen rushers and you are rank 1 within hours.

    No not implying a thing I’m expressing the fact that he just posted he couldn’t make it past rank 13 survivor two days ago and here he is calling for a killer buff
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  • DarkWo1f997 said:
    Just so everyone knows, @lyric beats me and makes fun of me when I cry afterwards. It’s terrible. 
    Lol I’m not even on the same platform as you I just think these ideas are a bit of a stretch 
    in What if T-Bagging Acitvated Bloodlust 3? Comment by lyric
  • DarkWo1f997 said:
    Could you imagine the reactions when people learned the hard way?

    When they T-bag three times while in the killer’s direct line of sight, they would suddenly see Michael take the tennis balls off the walker and be going nascar at them. 

    I’d be in tears. 


    I’m not saying to implement this, but it would be the greatest form of karma to ever manifest. 
    What’s the difference? You’re already in tears on the forum half the time wanting killer buffs and being unable to make it past the yellow ranks as a survivor 
    in What if T-Bagging Acitvated Bloodlust 3? Comment by lyric
  • se05239 said:

    If we could make it so that SWFs only could play in Casual mode, then that'd be super freaking awesome!

    I think it should be this way on a half points setting in a casual mode and you can only play ranked with full points if they are the same rank as you or within 1 , that would be a fair adjustment to prevent bullying at low ranks
    in Can we get a Casual mode for this game? Comment by lyric
  • Legacy_Zealot said:

    I got a 3K with one gen left through camping, and NOED. You can imagine the massive amount of salt I received, I was making a brew and came back to 2 gens left.

    Just keep practicing pal, you'll get there :blush:

    See even this guy can get his kills while roasting marshmallows and watching some poor dude die lmao and if his avatar is his main he’s using the weakest killer doing so
    in Survivors are to op and killers get the blame Comment by lyric
  • Tazare said:

    Hooks need fixing/a rework, and so do gens. The devs just keep changing the chase instead. The devs need fixing first, nevermind the game xD

    also @rhox32592 how tf do you "wreck" as freddy x) im just gonna assume you are rank 8+ cz red ranks usually ######### on freddies.

    and @Vietfox dont post useless ######### that has no value, killer's skill doesnt determine a win in this game, unless you play nurse.

    Please play a different game, “fixing the devs”? Wow... 
    in Survivors are to op and killers get the blame Comment by lyric
  • Grimbergoth said:

    @Global said:
    By nerf survivors do you mean take away everything that makes them fun or fix the mehcanics of the game which doesnt only involve survivors as the problem.

    lets talk about those mechanics that were not originally in the games design that are "fun" survivor broken as f... mechanics , SWF was never in the game to start with , they added it because survivors whined enough about it and then because they are afraid to balance around what it brought to the table has thrown the balance of power completely out the window . Now if I even decide to play a killer I have to deal with the 3and 4man swf ds/sb/sc/adr junkies over and over or play the lobby dodge simulator .

    Then we have the mechanics of not all killers are designed to be good at all ranks , this is where skill plays into it , some of the less skilled killers just plain suck it at high ranks even with a skilled player using them . Then we get daily quests for those same killers that blow at high ranks or have been nerfed into oblivion . this makes for some great fun as a killer , nothing like doing freddy quest against a 4man swf tryhard group at rank 2 .

    Then we have the deranking groups whos only real skill is the use swf to bully low rank killers with their p3 tricked out tryhard groups , I don't think ive ever heard anyone complain about people doing that before …

    or how about those who use the swf groups to get their level 2 buddies into rank 16 killer matches , because we all know that a rank 16 killer is soo op that a skilled rank2 survivor stands little chance , once again we haven't heard about this happening either have we ….

    now let me see since ive been playing survivor for the past several months mostly what have I seen there …

    SWF 3 mans who ignore and use the 4th as bait . I see this one regularly . they come up to where I am and start making noise blooms for the killer to come my way so they can run off and keep their friends safe . I don't think we have heard of these things happening before either...

    either way to me the biggest and longest running f'ed up mechanic in the game is swf , because they refuse to do anything about balance around it . Just add the voice coms to the game already and then balance around what they bring and stop cowering in a corner from the pro swf toxic tards .

    The fact that you openly admit to playing lobby dodge simulator says enough...
    in Survivors are to op and killers get the blame Comment by lyric
  • yeet said:

    @Vietfox said:
    yeet said:

    @Vietfox said:

     @Tazare said:

    @Vietfox why are you bringing my 'skills' into conversation. You are being toxic, what rank are you? Id like to know just for credibility

    console

    this explains a lot

    @yeet
    Yup, bought it 2 weeks ago cause my laptop is being fixed. Got the same rank there btw.

    rank 1 isn't difficult nor impressive, one of my friends was rank 1 in his second week of playing killer, and soon after for survivor, and I have been perpetually rank 1 since release

    You act like console players are worse when really it’s just the hardware that’s worse , same game  same objective. What I hate is how these other guys call @Vietfox out , he proves himself and then it gets brushed off to the side. That right there is why we can’t have intelligent conversations on this forum, we have a guy who like myself plays both sides but just because he plays  survivor more than killer it’s immediately discredited, what I would like to know is if rank one is so easy and all these people are so terrible then what is all the bitching about? Which is it? Is it so easy anyone can get there or so hard nobody can win it seems like the narrative always changes to suit people’s arguments on here when they get trapped in a corner
    in Survivors are to op and killers get the blame Comment by lyric
  • OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    Casual mode being what we're playing now and Rank being a game mode where both Survivors & Killer go in without Items, Add-ons & Perks. (Maybe up the time on gens so the killer doesn't get rushed to be fair.) In Rank we could gain more BP or gain more EXP to level up quicker to get shards faster.
    If it’s casual it should have all the items , add ons, and perks but be half points and rank doesn’t count
    in Can we get a Casual mode for this game? Comment by lyric
  • Vietfox said:
    @lyric support this for all people who can't handle challenging matches!
    I’ve been saying this is the solution for all the crying on here lol 
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  • Giche said:

    @powerbats @lyric

    What moderation ?

    Is there even one ? LUL

    But can't agree more.

    Wut? Still no purge ?

    Awwww :(

    There is no moderation apparently in some circumstances, this thread has  turned into personal attacks and misjudgments of character, everyone has gotten way off track and assumed the worst of each other when we should all just be having fun with the game and sharing hilarious stories / videos of good and bad moments and giving each other friendly advice 
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  • @Peanits @MandyTalk @Gay Myers (Luzi)  
    Is anyone going to take care of this, where is the moderation? This is beyond a joke anymore that this thread is still going on 
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  • Jesus Christ!! Where is the moderation? This thread needs to die ASAP it’s not even about the game anymore and people are getting a bit carried away taking things personal 
    in Quitting to give someone hatch Comment by lyric
  • RSB said:

    @lyric said:
    Not trying to stir the pot or anything I’ve stayed out of this whole thing and I plan on keeping it that way, In attempt to calm things some because this thread keeps popping up  I want to say some of you are making funny comments back and forth and it could be your own supporters giving you a “lol” simply because it’s funny , but if that’s not the case and you aren’t weighing in on the discussion and just spamming the button to troll then you have some issues  and probably aren’t old enough to play the game

    That's not the case, since """somebody""" used the fake accounts to spam tens of lols on some people they don't like (and I mean even spamming on comments from 3 months ago, literally every their comment they ever wrote), and "awesomes" on every their comments.

    Well idk why anyone would waste their time with that must have no life to stalk you three months back, I just noticed some funny stuff was being said and I’m not involved in whatever is going on but just trying to ease tensions as this thread should’ve been shut down ages ago if the mods were doing their jobs.
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  • Not trying to stir the pot or anything I’ve stayed out of this whole thing and I plan on keeping it that way, In attempt to calm things some because this thread keeps popping up  I want to say some of you are making funny comments back and forth and it could be your own supporters giving you a “lol” simply because it’s funny , but if that’s not the case and you aren’t weighing in on the discussion and just spamming the button to troll then you have some issues  and probably aren’t old enough to play the game
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  • Dr_doom_j2 said:
    lyric said:w
    SpaceCoconut said:
    Wow lyric is mad...

    The killer would still have to hit and hook the survivor giving you time to hide or move to a different area.

    Right now if a survivor dcs the killer gets an instant kill saving several minutes of chase and bleed time.

    Isn't it technically an easy 4k if a survivor DCs anyway? This solves some inbalances with it occurring.
    It would totally expose and waste the time of the other survivors who could be busy escaping because they have the gens to do and who says he doesn’t tunnel you right after because he realizes it’s afk? usually the guy who dc like that is always the ######### with d strike that goes down,  misses it with 5 gens left and then everyone is screwed , you’re saying they should have a fake alive status and not let the team know which is bullshit , A bot would be better because at least it’s doing something and you don’t lose your hooks.

    No one said any of that. You are projecting WAAAAAY to much. That is dumb, no one advocated for a fake survivor that struggles and acts like a real one only to confuse other survivors. What space coconut simply suggested was making it so wheb you DC you don't just teleport away to safey and deny the killer points "just because". If you hook the survivor that DC, it's instant sacrifice, meaning

     A. There is one less hook on the field,
    B. The killer used up time to hook that body
    C. Survivors cannot just DC to protest being slugged or give other survivors the hatch, which is unfair and not what the DC button was meant for.

    Two of those are dorect benefots to survivors, by the way. Also, one more thing, you know when someone DC's they have the DC icon over their avatar, right?

    Yea I know the icon is there that’s what I’m bitching about re read what his post is it says that they stay alive for unhooks and heals which means they have an alive status I’m not cool with that and I don’t dc in games 
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  • Dr_doom_j2 said:
    lyric said:
    Dr_doom_j2 said:
    lyric said:w
    SpaceCoconut said:
    Wow lyric is mad...

    The killer would still have to hit and hook the survivor giving you time to hide or move to a different area.

    Right now if a survivor dcs the killer gets an instant kill saving several minutes of chase and bleed time.

    Isn't it technically an easy 4k if a survivor DCs anyway? This solves some inbalances with it occurring.
    It would totally expose and waste the time of the other survivors who could be busy escaping because they have the gens to do and who says he doesn’t tunnel you right after because he realizes it’s afk? usually the guy who dc like that is always the ######### with d strike that goes down,  misses it with 5 gens left and then everyone is screwed , you’re saying they should have a fake alive status and not let the team know which is bullshit , A bot would be better because at least it’s doing something and you don’t lose your hooks.

    No one said any of that. You are projecting WAAAAAY to much. That is dumb, no one advocated for a fake survivor that struggles and acts like a real one only to confuse other survivors. What space coconut simply suggested was making it so wheb you DC you don't just teleport away to safey and deny the killer points "just because". If you hook the survivor that DC, it's instant sacrifice, meaning

     A. There is one less hook on the field,
    B. The killer used up time to hook that body
    C. Survivors cannot just DC to protest being slugged or give other survivors the hatch, which is unfair and not what the DC button was meant for.

    Two of those are dorect benefots to survivors, by the way. Also, one more thing, you know when someone DC's they have the DC icon over their avatar, right?

    But what if it’s his first hook is my point it’s dumb to not look at everything that could happen

    Dude, you completely lost it at this point? What difference would it make if that was his first hook or not? If he was going to dc, for whatever reason, he was going to dc. All this would mean is now instead of the killer immediately moving on to chase the next survivor, he has to hook and sacrifice the bidy, then go on a chase.

    If he has BBQ and Chili so what? If he was playing well enough to make the guy DC, he was going to hook him and find you anyway. 

    What is really your point man? Please give me ONE scenario where this doesn't benefit both sides against the DC'er and protect from game abuse.. Just one.
    If the survivor that dc is on his first hook then it’s a waste of time coming to get him and heal him and you expose your location by saving the survivor, what don’t you see about that? I could be doing something productive and not worrying about a guy who dc , he’s saying with an alive status still, if we’re going as far as to leave them in game at least notify the other survivors so they don’t waste their time trying to save an afk survivor and allow the killer to just hook the afk survivor and go on about it and I’m cool with that but don’t give me a fake status telling me my teammate has been hooked 
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  • Dr_doom_j2 said:
    lyric said:w
    SpaceCoconut said:
    Wow lyric is mad...

    The killer would still have to hit and hook the survivor giving you time to hide or move to a different area.

    Right now if a survivor dcs the killer gets an instant kill saving several minutes of chase and bleed time.

    Isn't it technically an easy 4k if a survivor DCs anyway? This solves some inbalances with it occurring.
    It would totally expose and waste the time of the other survivors who could be busy escaping because they have the gens to do and who says he doesn’t tunnel you right after because he realizes it’s afk? usually the guy who dc like that is always the ######### with d strike that goes down,  misses it with 5 gens left and then everyone is screwed , you’re saying they should have a fake alive status and not let the team know which is bullshit , A bot would be better because at least it’s doing something and you don’t lose your hooks.

    No one said any of that. You are projecting WAAAAAY to much. That is dumb, no one advocated for a fake survivor that struggles and acts like a real one only to confuse other survivors. What space coconut simply suggested was making it so wheb you DC you don't just teleport away to safey and deny the killer points "just because". If you hook the survivor that DC, it's instant sacrifice, meaning

     A. There is one less hook on the field,
    B. The killer used up time to hook that body
    C. Survivors cannot just DC to protest being slugged or give other survivors the hatch, which is unfair and not what the DC button was meant for.

    Two of those are dorect benefots to survivors, by the way. Also, one more thing, you know when someone DC's they have the DC icon over their avatar, right?

    But what if it’s his first hook is my point it’s dumb to not look at everything that could happen
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  • SpaceCoconut said:
    Wow lyric is mad...

    The killer would still have to hit and hook the survivor giving you time to hide or move to a different area.

    Right now if a survivor dcs the killer gets an instant kill saving several minutes of chase and bleed time.

    Isn't it technically an easy 4k if a survivor DCs anyway? This solves some inbalances with it occurring.
    It would totally expose and waste the time of the other survivors who could be busy escaping because they have the gens to do and who says he doesn’t tunnel you right after because he realizes it’s afk? usually the guy who dc like that is always the ######### with d strike that goes down,  misses it with 5 gens left and then everyone is screwed , you’re saying they should have a fake alive status and not let the team know which is bullshit , A bot would be better because at least it’s doing something and you don’t lose your hooks.
    in Solution to survivor DCs Comment by lyric
  • Global said:

    @lyric said:
    Dr_doom_j2 said:


    SpaceCoconut said:

    What if instead of "dying" they were left alive as if the player was afk?

    Other survivors could heal and rescue the afk survivor for points, dc'ing wouldn't trigger the hatch prematurely/artificially, Evil Incarnate wouldn't be so difficult, and the killer could continue on as normal.

    I don't know what could work for a killer DC since they're hosting though..

    Thoughts? 

    Great idea.... absolutely no upvotes. You know this forun isn't about #########. Most Survivors and killers just want what they want, they don't care about balance. 

    No it’s not a great idea you don’t give a ######### about balance, you’re totally willing to [BAD WORD] the survivors over who didn’t dc and have them waste their time and be punished for someone else dc , sounds to me like someone needs a easy 4K or you wouldn’t propose an afk survivor that other survivors would be risking their lives for , if anything it should be a bot that takes over and at least does something even if they are a stupid bot I would be more ok with that than a afk survivor that immediately when I unhook isn’t gonna run away and just get me found by notifying the killer 

    Well arent they punished for the DC anyway? tell me when was the last time a 3 man survivor game actually escaped you?

    I’ve escaped in the situation before , your comment proves it’s all about a 4K and ######### the other survivors who stayed in and actually wanted to play the game the right way, the other survivors shouldn’t be punished any more than being a man short
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  • Dr_doom_j2 said:
    SpaceCoconut said:
    What if instead of "dying" they were left alive as if the player was afk?

    Other survivors could heal and rescue the afk survivor for points, dc'ing wouldn't trigger the hatch prematurely/artificially, Evil Incarnate wouldn't be so difficult, and the killer could continue on as normal.

    I don't know what could work for a killer DC since they're hosting though..

    Thoughts? 

    Great idea.... absolutely no upvotes. You know this forun isn't about #########. Most Survivors and killers just want what they want, they don't care about balance. 
    No it’s not a great idea you don’t give a ######### about balance, you’re totally willing to ######### the survivors over who didn’t dc and have them waste their time and be punished for someone else dc , sounds to me like someone needs a easy 4K or you wouldn’t propose an afk survivor that other survivors would be risking their lives for , if anything it should be a bot that takes over and at least does something even if they are a stupid bot I would be more ok with that than a afk survivor that immediately when I unhook isn’t gonna run away and just get me found by notifying the killer 
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  • Nickenzie said:
    Hello, Leather Face is probably the second most weakest killer in Dead by Daylight! However before I start, I wanna tag my friends so they can play a role in this thread.

    @IronWolf115 @fcc2014 You can way in your feedback about this rework!
    @Lowbei You're gonna be the salt management mod in this thread for the fog travelers who are being uncivilized, get your shovel! :)

    Let's get started!

    Bubba's Chainsaw:
    -Charging the chainsaw will take 3 seconds to charge to 100% and Leather Face will remain at 115% ~4.60m/s!

    Reasoning: Leather Face was really sluggish when he decided to use his chainsaw, this should help him stay on par with Billy and help him become the true close punisher that he is meant to be.

    -Charging Bubba's Chainsaw for more than 3 seconds will slowly reduce Leather Face's movement speed to 100% ~4.00m/s over a 3 second period!

    Reasoning: This punishes the Leather Face player for continuing to charge Bubba's Chainsaw for extended periods of time and gives a incentive to not infinity charge Bubba's Chainsaw!

    -Chainsaw Sprint will last for 8 seconds and Leather Face is unstoppable! Unstoppable means that Leather Face will have a permanent Spirit Fury whenever he runs into a pallet but every pallet destroyed will decrease his Chainsaw Sprint by 2 seconds.

    Reasoning: Pallets was Leather Face's weakness and stopped him from gaining any value from becoming a true close range punisher. Now he will become a true close range punisher without feeling overwhelming for the survivor's side!

    New Ability: Overdrive

    -Takes 180 seconds to charge and successful Chainsaw hits will instantly fill 60 seconds of the charge meter.
    -When fully charged, upon hitting the "Overdrive" key during your Chainsaw Sprint, Leather Face will gain a additional 4 more seconds during his Chainsaw Sprint and destroying pallets will not decrease his Chainsaw Sprint for the entire duration of his Chainsaw Sprint.

    Reasoning: Leather Face needed a secondary opinion whenever he is in a chase besides mallet or chainsaw. This adds more interesting gameplay for the Leather Face user while staying balanced since it takes 3 minutes to fully charge assuming you never successfully attacked a survivor with Bubba's Chainsaw.

    -Leather Face's terror radius is increased to 40 meters and add-ons are nerfed to compensate for his very strong kit.
    -Some of Leather Face's add-ons will be reworked for his secondary power.

    Reasoning: Leather Face is not reliant on add-ons because his main kit just got a overhaul so to keep him from becoming almost nurse like, his terror radius and add-ons will be nerfed to help survivors have more counter play. Additionally the increased terror radius helps survivors hide easier since now if you're found out in the open without a window nearby, you're like gonna get downed.

    That's all and any uncivilized behavior will hear it from @Lowbei! Thanks! :)

    An 8 second sprint for Leatherface is a bit much, that’s like double the time it is now almost 
    in Complete LF Rework (Low Tier => High Tier) Comment by lyric
  • Tsulan said:

    @lyric said:
    Tsulan said:

    So i was thinking about a DS rework that would make both sides "happy".

    To keep true to it´s name, turn it into a "defensive weapon".

    The survivor would be able to hit and stun the killer (exhaustion status applies) like a pallet would hit and stun him.

    No free escapes from the shoulder, but a small stun during a chase.

    What do you think?

    EDIT: It would be usable like DH during a chase, when the survivor is injured but not downed.

    I like it but I feel like it makes dead hard pointless, what if it was usable while the killer was carrying another survivor to the hook like be a stick or something that breaks on contact with the killer, stuns them and frees your teammate, I feel like it would make it less cheap because you have to have at least two survivors to make it happen and it’s a decision on using it at the moment or a waiting On a better opportunity 

    It could have a timer like the pebble. Survivor had to be chased for at least 10 or 15 seconds in the last minute, to be able to use it against the killer. It would only make DH useless, if it gives a invulnerability like DH does. Otherwise it would be like a portable pallet with the risk of getting hit by the killer.

    I think it’s a good idea I would like to see it tested out , it may end up being a tad bit OP is my only worry but something along those lines would be really cool and probably draw less salt than it’s current state because I feel like the only reason those people get mad is they feel like they’ve won the chase only to have that ripped away from them along with losing the person sometimes after that
    in DS rework Comment by lyric
  • Tsulan said:

    So i was thinking about a DS rework that would make both sides "happy".
    To keep true to it´s name, turn it into a "defensive weapon".
    The survivor would be able to hit and stun the killer (exhaustion status applies) like a pallet would hit and stun him.
    No free escapes from the shoulder, but a small stun during a chase.

    What do you think?

    EDIT: It would be usable like DH during a chase, when the survivor is injured but not downed.

    I like it but I feel like it makes dead hard pointless, what if it was usable while the killer was carrying another survivor to the hook like be a stick or something that breaks on contact with the killer, stuns them and frees your teammate, I feel like it would make it less cheap because you have to have at least two survivors to make it happen and it’s a decision on using it at the moment or a waiting On a better opportunity 
    in DS rework Comment by lyric
  • PhantomMask20763 said:
    Eight said:

    @The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    Oh no.. a war between the Freddys and the Bubbas? That's how I think this'll end.. lol

    It'll be fine. The followers of Jigsaw will wipe them both out.

    Get outta here peppa pig and take your shitsaw and rng traps with you
    He must’ve forgotten how the pig tree became what it is I guess we’re gonna have to make another one now
    in FREDDY'S BITCHES - JOIN INSIDE!!! Comment by lyric
  • Lowbei said:

    they would be raging on the forum by rolling their faces on the keyboard.

    protip, wise survivors actively count totems they break and those they see broken (or heard if communication), to know whether or not noed is possible, and always assume its being used unless all totems are broken.
    Yep this is true, there are only 5 totems people it doesn’t take that long and you will be denying an otherwise not so hot killer their potential kills, I find the more skilled killers don’t run hexes at all and if they do it’s usually something like devour hope and not hex ruin to allow the survivors to work on gens instead of looking for the totems so it just smacks you in the face when it comes if you weren’t anticipating noed and getting all the totems.
    in How Bad would todays Survivors Rage... Comment by lyric
  • The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    ChesterTheMolester said:
    lyric said:
    Cypraz said:

    Freddy's Children I understand but Freddy's bitches? Makes no sense.

    Freddy’s bitches are invisible creatures he’s created while talking to himself at the open exit gate full of t bagging survivors lol
    Freddys dont rage as much as Bubbas cause our power doesnt get completely denied all game by a mere window.
    Should of referenced the fact they throw a tantrum when they run into something lol. 
    Lol I don’t understand why he has these warthog sounding noises to me that’s more funny than scary 
    in FREDDY'S BITCHES - JOIN INSIDE!!! Comment by lyric
  • The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    lyric said:
    Cypraz said:

    Freddy's Children I understand but Freddy's bitches? Makes no sense.

    Freddy’s bitches are invisible creatures he’s created while talking to himself at the open exit gate full of t bagging survivors lol
    No that's just the free drugs kicking in at the end lol
    Lol I never said Freddy’s bitches didn’t like to party
    in FREDDY'S BITCHES - JOIN INSIDE!!! Comment by lyric
  • Cypraz said:

    Freddy's Children I understand but Freddy's bitches? Makes no sense.

    Freddy’s bitches are invisible creatures he’s created while talking to himself at the open exit gate full of t bagging survivors lol
    in FREDDY'S BITCHES - JOIN INSIDE!!! Comment by lyric
  • Raccoon said:
    This club is gonna be way cooler than The Leatherface Mafia.

    Wanna join? Just post up with "WELCOME TO PRIME TIME, #########!" *

    *No purchase necessary, must use Freddy avatar, and must proofread each post for 8 seconds before posting. Inspired by Samination. 

    (maybe some friendly rivalries and KYF matches will result)
    We started it in attempt to draw @EpicFailTryHard and the real Leatherface mafia back to the forums.
    in FREDDY'S BITCHES - JOIN INSIDE!!! Comment by lyric
  • fcc2014 said:

    @lyric please don't pull me back into this ridiculous thread lol. The wishlist and lore section are quite nice during these difficult times.

    I may have to switch myself it’s getting pretty old 
    in So no DS nerf until xmas at earliest Comment by lyric
  • DarkWo1f997 said:
    Orion said:

    The flaw is that Bloodlust was created to shorten chases. It wasn't created to help Killers patrol the map. Another flaw is that Killers could abuse this to get hits on Survivors.

    Well it will deactivate automatically when you are within 12 meter range of a survivor. They have a terror radius for a reason. 
    Just a question @DarkWo1f997 not trying to troll you or anything but didn’t you just say you couldn’t make it past rank 13 survivor in another post and even using DS?  but here you are in several threads calling for killer buffs , I’m just wondering why you would want that if you’re already stuck in the yellow ranks as a survivor as is? 
    in Bloodlust always on when NOT in a chase. Comment by lyric
  • SenzuDuck said:

    @lyric said:
    So you tell me I don’t play killer because I said everyone was whining and bitching all the time for nothing but here you are saying you win 95% of your matches as killer , seems like I’m right if you win that much there is nothing to ######### about, only 5% of survivors play the game right? Ok then tell all your buddies to shut the [BAD WORD] up because they must be extremely terrible at the game to be having any trouble whatsoever when your win rate is like that

    Not to mention his win req is "anything more than half" so he just contributes to the problem that killers complain that something is weak if they don't consistently kill more than half the players, which is just funny.

    "I killed two survivors and hooked the others ones 2 times each, man this killer sucks"

    The only ones complaining on here are the same people that always complain, they can’t stand that in a balanced game everything has a counter because survivors should be able to counter nothing they do in their eyes , it’s just like some guy on here that told me that he shouldn’t have to switch his perks or use any strategies to win because he’s the power role . Survivor bots can’t come quick enough @fcc2014 @Vietfox @NoxiousOnnyyxx
    in So no DS nerf until xmas at earliest Comment by lyric
  • yeet said:

    @Vietfox said:
    yeet said:


    SenzuDuck said:

    @yeet said:

    SenzuDuck said:

    @yeet said:

SenzuDuck said:

    @yeet said: Continuing with insisting that a person is making multiple accounts to get you really isn't helping your case to be honest. He said he isn't Nickenzie, I haven't asked him if he is Nickenzie since, therefore I accept that he isn't Nickenzie. It's just a comment on his profile states "I'm his alter ego". If you have any idea what an alter ego is you'd assume this means it's his second account, clearly not. I just think it's funny that his proof is a youtube account made in 2013. Go back to crying about pallet distances or DS nerf not being here.

    The only person crying here is you, with your whining that everyone is out to get you.



Yes, saying one person is using an alt account because in their profile they literally state they're Nickenzies alter ego is absolutely me saying everyone is out to get me.

Move on little killer, you need the practice.

    I can probably guarantee i'm a better player than you.

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    "I'm better than you nurr nurrr"

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    you probably dodge swf as well, probably dodge items too, probably dodge legacy.

    Lets be honest, you only play matches that you think you'll win.

    i only dodge bad pings, i have probably a 95% winrate
    i have been playing this game since beta, it's not particularly complex or difficult
    seems like you're projecting

    @yeet
    Wait, if your winrate is about 95% why do you claim this game is so unbalanced and survivor sided?

    because 95% of survivors don't play the game properly, the 5% who do beat me consistently

    So you tell me I don’t play killer because I said everyone was whining and bitching all the time for nothing but here you are saying you win 95% of your matches as killer , seems like I’m right if you win that much there is nothing to ######### about, only 5% of survivors play the game right? Ok then tell all your buddies to shut the ######### up because they must be extremely terrible at the game to be having any trouble whatsoever when your win rate is like that
    in So no DS nerf until xmas at earliest Comment by lyric
  • yeet said:
    lyric said:
    Giche said:

    @lyric said:

    She’s not lying @Giche ..if it wasn’t DS there would be something else to ######### about , the devs could give you every buff you specifically would like to see and there would still be a cryfest on here

    That's what we've been told for the last 2 years.

    By peoples defending infinites or 20s cooldown Sprintburst.

    Today it's for DS.

    Get lost.

    Or you can just git gud and quit crying in the forums because you’re ass at the game and afraid of a perk
    I can tell you've never seriously played killer.
    That’s your opinion I made rank one last season as a killer but no I’m not a killer main, just because I don’t have the problems you do doesn’t mean I don’t play 
    in The Decisive Strike Problem (Rework) Comment by lyric
  • Giche said:

    @lyric

    no u

    How it's goin' under the bridge ?

    Lol right, says the guy who posts survivor pics on every survivor post and ######### talks anything they say
    in The Decisive Strike Problem (Rework) Comment by lyric
  • Giche said:

    @lyric said:

    Or you can just git gud and quit crying in the forums because you’re ass at the game and afraid of a perk

    And then he proceed to play with his own poop.

    Toxic survivors mains being man-child, as usual.

    No I’m just giving you what you give to everyone else on here , so I guess you are a man child that is accurate otherwise you would stop bitching and play the game
    in The Decisive Strike Problem (Rework) Comment by lyric
  • The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    Okuu46 said:

    I don't know if i'm the only one who's bothered by this, but i noticed that there wasn't any killer buffs in this patch; only perks, hook changes and such; i'm disappointed because i thought we where suppose to get a buff to freddy in this patch; but i guess not?

    Maybe they'll add some more changes to the PTB before releasing it like they did with the Clown? I doubt this'll happen but that's the only way I can see Freddy getting a buff next update instead of waiting until the next chapter update.. 
    they’re still trying to rework Freddy so I’d say it might be longer ,they’ve said in a stream they are totally wanting to rework his power to make it different from what it is now so Freddy may not even play the same as he used to even with his core ability and that takes time to get right.
    in No new killer buffs in mid patch? Comment by lyric
  • @fcc2014 @Vietfox The dawn of a new era...
    in Training Grounds Comment by lyric
  • slingshotsurvivor said:
    I do like that there is an indication as to how many times you've reach 100 😊

    Given that this correlates better to how much time a survivor put into the game would it make sense to switch the bloody clothes you get from prestiging to align with this? 

    Thoughts? 

    No because you could use any number of survivors during that time period to reach 100 then who’s clothes are you unlocking ? And why?  I think if we got special outfits for certain devotion levels it would be better because then someone could easily identify you as a veteran 
    in Devotion reward Comment by lyric
  • LordziPL said:

    1000 shards, 100 Auric Cells + cosmetic (no Store)

    I know 😟 I’m about to get my 3rd devotion point in the next few days and it seems pretty pointless
    in Devotion reward Comment by lyric
  • Boss said:

    @lyric said:
    I don’t use it but I’d say I see it once every 5-6 matches as a survivor and it blows for the guy on the hook because even with borrowed time if the killer has half a brain they will wait until you’re unhooked to reactivate the terror radius so it totally counters it, but I feel like insidious would be a wasted perk slot because survivors will just genrush you and leave you standing like a idiot if they are smart

    5 to 6?
    Wow, that's actually a lot to me.

    Seriously I don’t know how some of them made it to rank one that way
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