No_Cluie_Louis

@Master said:
Im tired of repeating the same arguments all over again.
Have this instead

Master it's you every time who says stuff like that but honestly, what are you on about. Quite obviously that's not what i'm talking about. You never come up with a good argument, instead you just hit me with the toxic survivor main, when i prefer killer. The reason i hate camping so much is i know as someone who plays killer that there is no point in face camping someone purely out of your own salt, so why don't you give a good argument for once, rather than just always blaming the victims of a stupid playstyle

in A change to camping? Comment by No_Cluie_Louis January 30, 2019

@branchini1979 said:
I've said this b4, but they should have a variant to borrowed time as baseline but unlike the perk and so not too op for the survivor have a small range for killer to hook, so if killer is literally on hook then a BT activates, but if killer great than say 8 metres then only the perk of BT would work. Should stop true face camping

That's actually quite a good idea, though i disagree on what you think BT should do instead

in A change to camping? Comment by No_Cluie_Louis January 30, 2019

i made a forum on this n if u read other peoples answers it tells u everything https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/42089/adept-killers#latest

in "Merciless Victory" Comment by No_Cluie_Louis January 30, 2019

@Shad03 said:

@No_Cluie_Louis said:

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@No_Cluie_Louis said:
this is so true. Mori's should be for the killers satisfaction and the extra points, not for making the game easier

This statement is redundant.

I don't use Moris myself unless I need to do a ritual that requires I mori people. But if I use it for fun well the nerfs suggested will take the fun away from people like me.

Also the whole point of a mori is to make life easier for those using it as it knocks players out the game. The nerfs would just promote super tunneling as you'd have to invest on the person whom you hooked to use the mori. Making it more unfun for survivors, so please, rethink your statement.

How's it different, killers already tunnel survivors when they have a mori anyway, it just makes it less OP

Not all killers. Besides, you cannot tell me sometimes you want to get rid of that flashlight clicking, t-bagging survivor out the match quicker. Plus if I know a killer is running a mori it incentives stealth. You actually hinder the fear of moris because you basically get a second chance.

As you said it wouldn't change much, but IT WOULD give more pressure to killers to tunnel the first person they hook because there is a greater chance for that survivor to not get moried if it required a second hook. Especially if it's a ivory.

I do see where you're coming from, however i'd rather be tunneled than be against something so OP. When i play killer and use a mori, i usually don't even use it untill the person has been hooked twice, as i just think it's too OP

in Would moris be ok if... Comment by No_Cluie_Louis January 30, 2019

I'm sorry but i just had a game against a Legion, where someone dc'd the moment we spawned in. We got 2 gens done in the killers first chase, so he face camped the person he caught, then the next person until there was one left who got out from the hatch. He was a streamer as well, like it's actually disgusting

in Face camping? Comment by No_Cluie_Louis January 30, 2019

@Shad03 said:

@No_Cluie_Louis said:
this is so true. Mori's should be for the killers satisfaction and the extra points, not for making the game easier

This statement is redundant.

I don't use Moris myself unless I need to do a ritual that requires I mori people. But if I use it for fun well the nerfs suggested will take the fun away from people like me.

Also the whole point of a mori is to make life easier for those using it as it knocks players out the game. The nerfs would just promote super tunneling as you'd have to invest on the person whom you hooked to use the mori. Making it more unfun for survivors, so please, rethink your statement.

How's it different, killers already tunnel survivors when they have a mori anyway, it just makes it less OP

in Would moris be ok if... Comment by No_Cluie_Louis January 30, 2019

@Master said:
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@Tsulan said:
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@Tsulan said: ReneAensland said:
30 minutes ago. 2 minute video proving Face Camping exists. It's Toxic. And Baby killers DC just like DS users.        faCe cAmpiNg wAs reMovEd    doNt geT caUghT    iTs thE suRvivOrs faUlt
Unhooked = no face camping. lol OooOoOOoooookay. Whatever you say buddy.
Want a dev stream where the devs explain what face camping was and how they removed it?



lol No thanks, I don't want to be told what's Face Camping and what isn't by Rank 20 Devs.

Thanks though.



Oh really? What a surprise! You claim something, I disapprove, want to give you solid facts, and it's suddenly not interesting anymore. 

Yeah it's hard to face the truth after telling bullshit. 

His feelings and randomly capitalized letters were no match for you!

I even searched the video and prepared everything to crush his dreams...
sigh

You're [BAD WORD] hilarious.

Reading this entire comment section is a breath of fresh air, but I'm guessing people like you have to be in the opposition even though a crap ton of people in this comment section agreed with the OP.

"I think you just got to be in the "out" group. Whoever's on top, whoever's in power, whoever's successful, you gotta be on the other side or you don't feel like the smartest guy in the room. All you are, my dear, is a contrarian."

This defines people like yourself.

You forgot the people that agreed with me.

You can call a dog a "cat" as often as you want. But it will still be a dog.
Why on gods earth are you two even discussing the definition of a word? Like what kind of time waste is that? Who cares what exactly facecamping has meant back then, and what OP means with facecamping and if he is using the wrong term. I think it's pretty obvious that with facecamping OP means a killer that is camping a hooked survivor, standing right by him and not leaving the hook. Who cares if this isn't actually facecamping? Especially since the removal of facecamping didn't change a lot anyways. Doesn't really have anything to do what the OP was getting at.
Are you joking?
Back in the days you were actually able to secure a kill via camping. Nowadays you cant bodyblock away from the hook while survivors can bodyblock you from the hooking prompt. ALSO, nowdays they got BT, unhook invulnerability, swivel hooks AND the faster unhook animation
You can still just grab the survivor when he tries to unhook right in front of you
No you cant, thanks to bodyblockign and the new unhook animation that you can cancel instantly
Oh my god, multiple survivors just swarming the killer... sounds like you could hit the unhooker twice and OMG have someone else to camp its like playing DBD but the survivors come to you.

Wahoooooo!
Thank you, every time i comment about something killers do unfairly on these forums, i get attacked and told i'm an idiot (even though i play more killer than survivor). Like i get survivors used to be OP and SWF still is but that doesn't mean killers aren't OP in some aspects too. It's nice to see someone actually back me up for once in saying face camping is a low skilled strategy that may work, but it's boring and you only win by boring the survivors to death... literally.
Yea, like his whole argument is based on wanting one particular survivor dead, he doesn't care that if someone does come to save it makes it INCREDIBLY easy to get that person on the hook as a trade.

Killers like that are honestly the worst, they just want the first person they hook dead as soon as possible and doesn't matter if they can hook someone else for more points.
It's because it can be effective. Once one survivor is dead the killer will have more of an advantage. You can not fault people for using a tactic the devs have made viable. It's on the devs to make not camping more rewarding and camping and tunneling less rewarding.
Well then how come in the past when i have suggested to nerf unjustified camping and buff leaving the hook, people have attacked me with the good ol' cAmPiNg WaS iNtEnTiOnAl jUsT dOnT gEt CaUgHt
Cause some killers mains want their easier way to get kills kept in the game. As simple as that. Or maybe they fear that when nerfing camping killers will just suffer more from gen rush.
To me it's clear, rewarding non camping killers more and rewarding camping and tunneling campers less is not just a balance improvement, but a fundamental design improvement for the game that improves the experience of both sides for the majority of the player base.
Well i totally agree, so i wish people like @master and @Tsulan would stop claiming it's balanced
Nobody claimed that facecamping was balanced.
True. Personally I just want to have not camping be more rewarded so camping is not a necessity, and camping and tunneling less rewarded since it's no fun for survivors and doesn't require as much skill as playing the game normally as killer.
Camping is not the disease, its the symptom

Yeh the symptom of poor game mechanics, so why whenever people try to suggest a change, does everyone put them down

in Face camping? Comment by No_Cluie_Louis January 30, 2019

what time does it start does anyone know

in Excited for Moonrise? Comment by No_Cluie_Louis January 30, 2019

@xChrisx do uno the exact time today?

in When does the event start? Comment by No_Cluie_Louis January 30, 2019

how did the devs mess this up lol

in How Lunar Event will work. (Explained) Comment by No_Cluie_Louis January 30, 2019

this is so true. Mori's should be for the killers satisfaction and the extra points, not for making the game easier

in Would moris be ok if... Comment by No_Cluie_Louis January 30, 2019

@ad19970 said:
@No_Cluie_Louis said:
@ad19970 said:
@No_Cluie_Louis said:
@ad19970 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@No_Cluie_Louis said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@ad19970 said:
@Master said:
@ad19970 said:
@Tsulan said:
ReneAensland said:

@Tsulan said:

Raccoon said:
Tsulan said:



ReneAensland said:

@Tsulan said:

ReneAensland said:
@Tsulan said: ReneAensland said:
30 minutes ago. 2 minute video proving Face Camping exists. It's Toxic. And Baby killers DC just like DS users.        faCe cAmpiNg wAs reMovEd    doNt geT caUghT    iTs thE suRvivOrs faUlt
Unhooked = no face camping. lol OooOoOOoooookay. Whatever you say buddy.
Want a dev stream where the devs explain what face camping was and how they removed it?



lol No thanks, I don't want to be told what's Face Camping and what isn't by Rank 20 Devs.

Thanks though.



Oh really? What a surprise! You claim something, I disapprove, want to give you solid facts, and it's suddenly not interesting anymore. 

Yeah it's hard to face the truth after telling bullshit. 

His feelings and randomly capitalized letters were no match for you!

I even searched the video and prepared everything to crush his dreams...
sigh

You're [BAD WORD] hilarious.

Reading this entire comment section is a breath of fresh air, but I'm guessing people like you have to be in the opposition even though a crap ton of people in this comment section agreed with the OP.

"I think you just got to be in the "out" group. Whoever's on top, whoever's in power, whoever's successful, you gotta be on the other side or you don't feel like the smartest guy in the room. All you are, my dear, is a contrarian."

This defines people like yourself.

You forgot the people that agreed with me.

You can call a dog a "cat" as often as you want. But it will still be a dog.
Why on gods earth are you two even discussing the definition of a word? Like what kind of time waste is that? Who cares what exactly facecamping has meant back then, and what OP means with facecamping and if he is using the wrong term. I think it's pretty obvious that with facecamping OP means a killer that is camping a hooked survivor, standing right by him and not leaving the hook. Who cares if this isn't actually facecamping? Especially since the removal of facecamping didn't change a lot anyways. Doesn't really have anything to do what the OP was getting at.
Are you joking?
Back in the days you were actually able to secure a kill via camping. Nowadays you cant bodyblock away from the hook while survivors can bodyblock you from the hooking prompt. ALSO, nowdays they got BT, unhook invulnerability, swivel hooks AND the faster unhook animation
You can still just grab the survivor when he tries to unhook right in front of you
No you cant, thanks to bodyblockign and the new unhook animation that you can cancel instantly
Oh my god, multiple survivors just swarming the killer... sounds like you could hit the unhooker twice and OMG have someone else to camp its like playing DBD but the survivors come to you.

Wahoooooo!
Thank you, every time i comment about something killers do unfairly on these forums, i get attacked and told i'm an idiot (even though i play more killer than survivor). Like i get survivors used to be OP and SWF still is but that doesn't mean killers aren't OP in some aspects too. It's nice to see someone actually back me up for once in saying face camping is a low skilled strategy that may work, but it's boring and you only win by boring the survivors to death... literally.
Yea, like his whole argument is based on wanting one particular survivor dead, he doesn't care that if someone does come to save it makes it INCREDIBLY easy to get that person on the hook as a trade.

Killers like that are honestly the worst, they just want the first person they hook dead as soon as possible and doesn't matter if they can hook someone else for more points.
It's because it can be effective. Once one survivor is dead the killer will have more of an advantage. You can not fault people for using a tactic the devs have made viable. It's on the devs to make not camping more rewarding and camping and tunneling less rewarding.
Well then how come in the past when i have suggested to nerf unjustified camping and buff leaving the hook, people have attacked me with the good ol' cAmPiNg WaS iNtEnTiOnAl jUsT dOnT gEt CaUgHt
Cause some killers mains want their easier way to get kills kept in the game. As simple as that. Or maybe they fear that when nerfing camping killers will just suffer more from gen rush.
To me it's clear, rewarding non camping killers more and rewarding camping and tunneling campers less is not just a balance improvement, but a fundamental design improvement for the game that improves the experience of both sides for the majority of the player base.
Well i totally agree, so i wish people like @master and @Tsulan would stop claiming it's balanced
Yup, though careful with calling it unbalanced. It's not necessarily balanced, but at the same time camping isn't really op. It can be countered, sadly this is one of the things where swf survivors have a big advantage with over solo survivors though.
I think some people don't like it being called op. It's more of a design problem in my opinion. I think this game would just be better designed and generally more fun for both sides, in particular survivors, if they implemented something similar to my suggestions.
In the end devs should try and improve their game regarding what the majority of the playerbase would find fun. If the vast majority said camping is really fun, both killers and survivors, than this wouldn't be a discussion for me, but I doubt that's the case.

When i say balanced, i mean it's far easier to get the kill than moving else where, as it takes less skill