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@twistedmonkey said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@Raccoon said:
^^^^^
Agreed.If you're judging people as toxic for just playing within the rules of the game and using what's allowed, it's a "you" issue.
You know, you could also play the best [BAD WORD] available decks at MTG, field the best available army in WH40k and ppl would consider you toxic, the difference is in DBD you don't have to suffer from being "that guy" because IRL most of the losers playing survivors will full sweaty tryhard builds would be avoided and maybe sprayed at with a can of Axe.
So anyone who uses the best availiable strats or loadouts in a multiplayer game they are going to be cosidered toxic? that is some weird entitledment from todays gamers right there, using what is in the game to your advantage is what an us v them game is and always has been about, using what the game provides to get what you deem a win is always logical.
Never compare a game to real life, its a game lighten up, insulting people for playing in a way they want and are allowed too within the rules says more about the person doing the insulting than those playing within the rules of the game.
If we'd talk about any competitive game like league sure, this is a game that you'll play during your break or when you have nothing else to do. It's like going full tryhard mode on ######### monopoly with looked up strategies on the internet.
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@SIlentCetra said:
Entitled killer mains crying. Entitled survivor mains crying.Everyone is always [BAD WORD] crying. If you cry this hard at a GAME, just uninstall and pick up a new hobby, gaming isn't for you.
Pretty much a top 1-5% player on every game I'm taking seriously
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@Raccoon said:
^^^^^
Agreed.If you're judging people as toxic for just playing within the rules of the game and using what's allowed, it's a "you" issue.
You know, you could also play the best ######### available decks at MTG, field the best available army in WH40k and ppl would consider you toxic, the difference is in DBD you don't have to suffer from being "that guy" because IRL most of the losers playing survivors will full sweaty tryhard builds would be avoided and maybe sprayed at with a can of Axe.
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@twistedmonkey said:
Raccoon said:"Nerf" >_>
Weird way of saying ENDGAME MEGABUFF
NERF to early game (can hook)
Semi buff to mid game (instant use)
Bug buff to end game (especially coordinated SWF);)
I think those players who have complained about BT at end game can't see the forest for the tree's with this change.
Endgame sucks anyways and needs an overhaul
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@The_Crusader said:
Master said:@The_Crusader said:
That sounds OP. You can take a survivor out early.
You can do the same with tunneling, which is the reason why its the most efficient way to play
It really isn't not at high rank anyway.
This is meant for lower ranks to incentivize killers to leave their target to get dat mori.
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@The_Crusader said:
That sounds OP. You can take a survivor out early.It took a killer 8 hits and 4 hooks at that point vs potentially only 4 hits and 3 hooks.
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@The_Crusader said:
pungent_stench said:i am sure there are many comments that are...lacking. so, i only read the first post. i have been to rank 1 before and rank 6 last season. this is without camp/tunnel desperation manifestation. it is possible to not choose the easiest path and be toxic. besides, who cares about rank and better yet, why? i play for entertainment, not social status.
as survivor, i suicide on the hook if i think i am going to be tunneled. i also don't rescue if i think the survivor will be tunneled. why feed such behavior? they wanna be boring? let me be boring too.
i compare this behavior to those people in call of duty who memorize spawn points and then shoot through the walls to kill people as soon aa they spawn and not give them a chance. it's the exact same thing
people with mics? i am only too happy to furnish camp/tunnel. otherwise...not needed.
I get why you would suicide on hook but at the same time the probpem there is it makes it harder for the others to pip since one of them will be tunneled next and it rewards crappy killers.
Pipping is not a reward. If all 4 just kill themselves on hook they robbed the killer of his time too.
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Gentimes are too fast? Let's provide survivors with means to rob killers of 4 of the 12 hooks they need and then complain about tunneling/facecamping because ppl are fed up.
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Meanwhile most killer perks do almost nothing and are situational at best and ppl wonder why one side is stronger than the other.
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@MPGamer18 said:
Some Killers are so bad at the game that developers have graced upon them perks that allow them to see players when they hook other survivors, healing, running by crows, repairing/finishing gens etc ... stop whining.Clearly you all won’t be happy until there is a perk that lets you see survivors until the match ends. BVHR will never be able to balance the game with this many bad players.
You mean like SWF provides survivors at all times with info when they can repair even against killers whom they'd normally have to be afraid from?
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@Raccoon said:
It's going to feel very rewarding to down a BT survivor in the Endgame, wasting more than enough time for a gate to be opened, only to be unable to hook them due to DS.Maybe they'll go down more than a minute away from the gates, but I know that I, personally, will be sticking around the gate area in such scenarios to guarantee my escape.
I'm actually having a hard time understanding how people can't see this combo becoming the new Endgame meta, especially since it's way harder to counter/prevent than vanilla DS.
Because endgame will happen less like this.
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@Raccoon said:
Ah, so you let the survivor run free to open the gate/escape in the Endgame, where your actions, such as ignoring the unhooked, carry the most weight in the entire match.Solid advice.
You down him and go for another.
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@Raccoon said:
FireHazard said:@Raccoon said:
It's literally getting Mega Buffed.
Every game will have 4 DS now to "stop tunneling." I'd suggest getting used to hearing "Ugh" and restarting the chase.
Also make sure you get used to being placed in literally unwinnable situations in the endgame
Did you even read the DS nerf?
Please tell me how to counter multiple saved DS usages (post nerf) in the Endgame. Bonus points if you can tell me how to do.sp off of a Borrowed Time save.
DS lasts 60 seconds after an unhook, in endgame you will be slugging mostly because you don't have time to hook ppl in the first place. By the time you'll hook them DS will be run out, if not the devs need to nerf the time, I think 40 secs would be enough to counter tunneling tbh.
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@e8Lattice said:
Killers, because every Multiplayer game needs an easy-mode, hand-held, babied crutch option for all those extra special entitled snowflakes out there.Bring the nerf, if Killers want a game mode that consists entirely of them looking at a screen in an empty lobby simulator that says "You Win" that's there hang up.
Oh except Freddy - the only fairly balanced Killer in game.
everybody can disregard you because you don't even know what exposed does.
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@JawsIsTheNextKiller said:
@MhhBurgers said:
They are not there for going out, they're here to keep me company. I have no use for pets that come in at a whim.This is exactly what I say to survivors that visit me in my basement.
lul
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@powerbats said:
Oh good grief, you lot are hilarious after whining to nerf DS it gets nerfed and you still complain, you get multiple obsession chances now if multiple people use it.It can't be used at all unless they unhook someone oh and hey you can still MORI them like before, it's almost as if gasp YOU CAN'T ADAPT.
You lot told survivors to adapt when teh SC changes went through, when the pallet changes went through, when the exhaustion changes went through.
What's even funnier is this hasn't even hit the PTB and back when the changes were announced and some survivors whined you told them the same thing I'm saying.
All you're doing is proving that you have to have something to complain about when things don't go your way or you play bad.
Meanwhile the rest of us are like meh it won't make a difference, we'll simply adapt to changes on either side and improve.
The current DS is unanimously considered to be uncounterable and overpowered by anybody with a shred of intelligence.
Also you act like the nerf already went through but we'll probably have to painstakingly wait another month for a change that is overdue for almost a year now.
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@Mushwin said:
@MhhBurgers so your cats get no fresh air?Windows can be opened but my cat's welfare is none of your business without wanting to sound rude. I am fully aware that keeping 2 cats indoors in a small room with no places to go is animal cruelty.
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@FireHazard said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@FireHazard said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@FireHazard said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@FireHazard said:
Close the blinds then... Or nail up curtains to cover the windows... Or just board up the windows...2 cats who can't go outside and you want to deprave them of sunlight, guess how long they'll live then.
Do you live in a 1x1 apartment or something? Just put them in another room...
yes I do
I don't think lack of sunlight will kill your cats, even so just turn the computer towards one window that you covered up and that should solve the problem. Even better just turn the computer towards a wall/away from any windows.
Not possible here since I have 3 PCs, 3 monitors and a huge bed most of my room space is very limited., also every wall is white so they will all reflect the sunlight.
Then you'll just have to use what people suggest here or just play around with the lighting irl and on your PC. Not much else can be done.
My question is why the ######### did they make this game even darker.
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@Mushwin said:
@MhhBurgers send your cats out in the day >.< i use to own plenty of cats during my life, then they are getting sunlight and ten you can close curtains/blind etcThey are not there for going out, they're here to keep me company. I have no use for pets that come in at a whim.
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NOED often doesn't even pop off in high ranks so how the ######### is that comparable to 4 more hook healthstates?
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@BACKSTABBER said:
So killers are using sloppy butcher nowSloppy butcher OP pls nerf? get out of here.
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@CJsDBD said:
Pandifer said:As a survivor main, I hate to say it, but stop checking on it first thing. I note where you go and know where it is.
This is 100% true, I only ever find ruin right away when the killer just goes there as soon as the match starts
ppl think there's much intricacy to this simple game. It doesn't make a difference, survivors still spawn ontop of it so if you don't go there it can still break in the first 20 seconds. The whole hex idea is one of the worst game design choices that I have ever come across in any game.
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@FireHazard said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@FireHazard said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@FireHazard said:
Close the blinds then... Or nail up curtains to cover the windows... Or just board up the windows...2 cats who can't go outside and you want to deprave them of sunlight, guess how long they'll live then.
Do you live in a 1x1 apartment or something? Just put them in another room...
yes I do
I don't think lack of sunlight will kill your cats, even so just turn the computer towards one window that you covered up and that should solve the problem. Even better just turn the computer towards a wall/away from any windows.
Not possible here since I have 3 PCs, 3 monitors and a huge bed most of my room space is very limited., also every wall is white so they will all reflect the sunlight.
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Unpopular opinion: Ruin is terrible gamedesign. It makes the game unplayable for lowrank survivors unless they get very lucky and find it and does nothing against highranks.
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@FireHazard said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@FireHazard said:
Close the blinds then... Or nail up curtains to cover the windows... Or just board up the windows...2 cats who can't go outside and you want to deprave them of sunlight, guess how long they'll live then.
Do you live in a 1x1 apartment or something? Just put them in another room...
yes I do
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My question is, the game isn't scary and hiding isn't what survivors want to do, most want the chase, why the heck did it have to become even darker?
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@FireHazard said:
Close the blinds then... Or nail up curtains to cover the windows... Or just board up the windows...2 cats who can't go outside and you want to deprave them of sunlight, guess how long they'll live then.
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
MhhBurgers said:@ChesterTheMolester said:
fcc2014 said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@I_am_Negan said:
So why do you get look down upon as a freeloader. I get 1260€/month in Welfare in germany due to false disasbility claims Wow congratulations!
Looks like my taxes are well spent...
If you live in a social democracy then yeah, part of living there is the SOCIAL part.
Lol, wasting money that is intended for people having bad luck, and you wanna explain me the social part while faking a disability? You are an hell of a class act.
Activision CEO earns 28 million a year for sitting on his ass, I think there's bigger fish to fry than me. (never worked as a CEO but I think that's all he does, else gamers wouldn't harp on him)
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That's camping+tunnelling thoThe_Crusader said:
Not if he's waiting around the hook area while the others do gens it isn't. Which is what happens at low rank, it's just that gens go so slowly the killer can get away with it.MhhBurgers said:@The_Crusader said:
ATOMIC_ACE_PUGG said:Then do something about gens being done too fast. Ruin isn't enough
That makes no sense.
Gens dont get done at low rank thats why camping works.
If gens took even longer than camping would be stringer than it is now.
As for tunneling, if you're tunneling one guy then yeah the gens are going to be powered up fast.
Tunneling is the most effective strategy a killer can go for if he manages to injure/down the unhooker it's the best thing to go for the survivor who will be stage2/dead as long as he still has the chance to find him.
With good survivors you need hooks constantly, hence why tunneling goes down because people don't have time to wait around for one survivor to be unhooked. -
Legion loses ppl easier than other killers except a spirit who tries to mindgame a big jungle gym. If ur using his ability to down ppl without Frank's mixtape or without breaking chase then it takes way to much time.Player1Ready said:
How on earth are you losing people with legion? And why would you use his ability as a last resort, it’s probably one of the fastest cool downs ever, for a pretty Powerful ability if used right!MhhBurgers said:@artist said:
MhhBurgers said:@artist said:
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@artist said: MhhBurgers said:
@Player1Ready said: MhhBurgers said:
@artist said: MhhBurgers said:
@artist said: getting chased > getting chased and going down because there's nothing u can do about it This is how the game should be in the first place, a single survivor should go down with no chance of survival unless he uses up every pallet.
thats ridiculous. who would even want to play at the point other than ppl who like to hide all game In a game where doing all objectives takes less than 5 minutes you want killers to chase survivors for 1 hook out of 12 possible ones for how long exactly?
Bloodlust gamer spotted Nah I don't need bloodlust, I main legion, the most times I get bloodlust is when following ppl because legion will eventually get bloodlust if ppl just run in a straight line because of his low MS.
well that explains it Devs said chases are suppose to last 40 seconds max (which would be still way to long), play another game if you think you should be able to outlast a killer for the whole game.
when did I say I thought that? i believe you should be able to last a while if you're good as survivor, or make a chase short if you're good as killer. downs shouldnt just be handed to you and that's exactly how it is when you play legion
Legion is how exactly how the game is supposed to go, his design is how the game was intended in the first place.
it sounds like you're just making this up. if the game was supposed to be like that pallets and windows wouldn't exist
Try playing against legion without windows and pallets, see how it goes. Love how you ppl exaggerate but without windows and pallets legion would just m1 you to death, spamming his power is a last resort against very good loopers or survivors who managed to lose you and lost a ton of blood during that.
Fast speed
multiple hits
cues for surviour location
easy tracking
bleed oit
valut speed
pallet vault
and your still getting out played by a survivor after all that??
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@The_Crusader said:
ATOMIC_ACE_PUGG said:Then do something about gens being done too fast. Ruin isn't enough
That makes no sense.
Gens dont get done at low rank thats why camping works.
If gens took even longer than camping would be stringer than it is now.
As for tunneling, if you're tunneling one guy then yeah the gens are going to be powered up fast.
Tunneling is the most effective strategy a killer can go for if he manages to injure/down the unhooker it's the best thing to go for the survivor who will be stage2/dead as long as he still has the chance to find him.
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@artist said:
MhhBurgers said:@artist said:
MhhBurgers said:
@artist said: MhhBurgers said:
@Player1Ready said: MhhBurgers said:
@artist said: MhhBurgers said:
@artist said: getting chased > getting chased and going down because there's nothing u can do about it This is how the game should be in the first place, a single survivor should go down with no chance of survival unless he uses up every pallet.
thats ridiculous. who would even want to play at the point other than ppl who like to hide all game In a game where doing all objectives takes less than 5 minutes you want killers to chase survivors for 1 hook out of 12 possible ones for how long exactly?
Bloodlust gamer spotted Nah I don't need bloodlust, I main legion, the most times I get bloodlust is when following ppl because legion will eventually get bloodlust if ppl just run in a straight line because of his low MS.
well that explains it Devs said chases are suppose to last 40 seconds max (which would be still way to long), play another game if you think you should be able to outlast a killer for the whole game.
when did I say I thought that? i believe you should be able to last a while if you're good as survivor, or make a chase short if you're good as killer. downs shouldnt just be handed to you and that's exactly how it is when you play legion
Legion is how exactly how the game is supposed to go, his design is how the game was intended in the first place.
it sounds like you're just making this up. if the game was supposed to be like that pallets and windows wouldn't exist
Try playing against legion without windows and pallets, see how it goes. Love how you ppl exaggerate but without windows and pallets legion would just m1 you to death, spamming his power is a last resort against very good loopers or survivors who managed to lose you and lost a ton of blood during that.
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While tunneling/camping is not a problem in high ranks it needs fixing for the game's health in general. Thing is killers don't need nerfs but incentives to go after other survivors, taking one out currently is just far too strong over having to hook each survivor twice. Esp legion excels at tunneling because you have no reason to go for the unhooker unless you are able to down him before he unhooks, most people won't even heal up against him and even if you get a healthy unhooker you can frenzy him and go for the hooked guy
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@artist said:
MhhBurgers said:@artist said:
MhhBurgers said:
@Player1Ready said: MhhBurgers said:
@artist said: MhhBurgers said:
@artist said: getting chased > getting chased and going down because there's nothing u can do about it This is how the game should be in the first place, a single survivor should go down with no chance of survival unless he uses up every pallet.
thats ridiculous. who would even want to play at the point other than ppl who like to hide all game In a game where doing all objectives takes less than 5 minutes you want killers to chase survivors for 1 hook out of 12 possible ones for how long exactly?
Bloodlust gamer spotted Nah I don't need bloodlust, I main legion, the most times I get bloodlust is when following ppl because legion will eventually get bloodlust if ppl just run in a straight line because of his low MS.
well that explains it
Devs said chases are suppose to last 40 seconds max (which would be still way to long), play another game if you think you should be able to outlast a killer for the whole game.
when did I say I thought that? i believe you should be able to last a while if you're good as survivor, or make a chase short if you're good as killer. downs shouldnt just be handed to you and that's exactly how it is when you play legion
Legion is how exactly how the game is supposed to go, his design is how the game was intended in the first place.
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The "Killers are way to OP" guy doesn't know about basic mechanics? colour me surprised.
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@Mr_Myers said:
MhhBurgers said:10-15% survival rate is still okay, I don't see the issue, it's DEAD by daylight not survive by daylight
He based the numbers off his own games...
Oh, didn't know that. Still, 10-15% would sound fine to me, it's around the same escape rate that survivors have against my frank's mixtape legion and legion is one of the worst killers in the game.
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@artist said:
MhhBurgers said:@Player1Ready said:
MhhBurgers said:
@artist said: MhhBurgers said:
@artist said: getting chased > getting chased and going down because there's nothing u can do about it This is how the game should be in the first place, a single survivor should go down with no chance of survival unless he uses up every pallet.
thats ridiculous. who would even want to play at the point other than ppl who like to hide all game In a game where doing all objectives takes less than 5 minutes you want killers to chase survivors for 1 hook out of 12 possible ones for how long exactly?
Bloodlust gamer spotted
Nah I don't need bloodlust, I main legion, the most times I get bloodlust is when following ppl because legion will eventually get bloodlust if ppl just run in a straight line because of his low MS.
well that explains it
Devs said chases are suppose to last 40 seconds max (which would be still way to long), play another game if you think you should be able to outlast a killer for the whole game.
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@Player1Ready said:
MhhBurgers said:@artist said:
MhhBurgers said:
@artist said: getting chased > getting chased and going down because there's nothing u can do about it This is how the game should be in the first place, a single survivor should go down with no chance of survival unless he uses up every pallet.
thats ridiculous. who would even want to play at the point other than ppl who like to hide all game
In a game where doing all objectives takes less than 5 minutes you want killers to chase survivors for 1 hook out of 12 possible ones for how long exactly?
Bloodlust gamer spotted
Nah I don't need bloodlust, I main legion, the most times I get bloodlust is when following ppl because legion will eventually get bloodlust if ppl just run in a straight line because of his low MS.
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@artist said:
MhhBurgers said:@artist said:
getting chased > getting chased and going down because there's nothing u can do about it
This is how the game should be in the first place, a single survivor should go down with no chance of survival unless he uses up every pallet.
thats ridiculous. who would even want to play at the point other than ppl who like to hide all game
In a game where doing all objectives takes less than 5 minutes you want killers to chase survivors for 1 hook out of 12 possible ones for how long exactly?
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It's more fun to face legion and freddy than broken ######### like Billy and Nurse.
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@PinkEricka said:
MhhBurgers said:@PinkEricka said:
Orion said:
@PinkEricka said: @Wolf74 Wretched Shop was never fixed. I still have fun infiniting the Killer daily lol "Why do I get dodged?" Killers dodge because if they see too many P3’s, legacy’s, or even half of the same items in their lobbies, it’s “too much of a challenge” Killers cherry pick till they see survivors dressed like noobs.
You can’t determine a players skill until you get inside the game.
Doubleabusing windows at wretched shop has nothing to do with skill, a monkey could do that.
@MhhBurgers Camping and tunneling as a strategy requires no skill either but y’all still do it lol 🤷🏽♀️
"Y'all", yeah because killers are totally a hivemind, we all use the same strategies, esp rank1 killers where tunneling and camping is not even viable unless you're just out there to grief somebody while ######### like double windows is broken gamedesign that leads to victory.
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@Orion said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@Orion said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@Orion said:
@MhhBurgers said:
They could stir up some free advertisement by going the route of a real religion but they are much too SJW for that.No, they'd stir up censorship instead, which is why they're not going to shoot themselves in the foot.
Seriously, anti-SJWs are more annoying than SJWs.Censorship by who rofl, no country that has many ppl playing DBD would censor them for religious context.
Also the general population would probably disagree with your opinion about anti-SJWs at least if youtube and social media is a good source to go by.
China would've censored the game for the Doctor if he'd been Asian. Christians in the USA throw a hissy fit any time someone portrays their particular flavor of christianity in a bad light or just dares to release something they find offensive. You're seriously underestimating how many countries would boycott and/or ban this game for minor things.
The general population is neither explicitly for nor explicitly against SJWs, and we agree that both sides are (at least) equally annoying. This discussion had nothing to do with SJWs, but you just had to bring up the subject.
The US CAN not censor games based on religion so that point is moot, them throwing a fit would be actual free advertisement. China doesn't care about religion if it's portrayed in a bad way.
And so what? Let's say just three countries ban the game. That's not only several million potential customers you're deprived yourself of, but also several thousand current customers who can no longer purchase or make use of your product, all for the possibility of stirring up enough ######### with manufactured controversy that you'll make up for that with free advertisement.
Companies that want to make money don't intentionally deprive themselves of customers. It's absurd.Who cares, can't please everybody. I don't think DBD would ever gain traction in for example Indonesia where such things matter in the first place.
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@artist said:
getting chased > getting chased and going down because there's nothing u can do about itThis is how the game should be in the first place, a single survivor should go down with no chance of survival unless he uses up every pallet.
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
fcc2014 said:@MhhBurgers said:
@I_am_Negan said:
So why do you get look down upon as a freeloader.
I get 1260€/month in Welfare in germany due to false disasbility claims
Wow congratulations!
Looks like my taxes are well spent...
If you live in a social democracy then yeah, part of living there is the SOCIAL part.
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@Orion said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@Orion said:
@MhhBurgers said:
They could stir up some free advertisement by going the route of a real religion but they are much too SJW for that.No, they'd stir up censorship instead, which is why they're not going to shoot themselves in the foot.
Seriously, anti-SJWs are more annoying than SJWs.Censorship by who rofl, no country that has many ppl playing DBD would censor them for religious context.
Also the general population would probably disagree with your opinion about anti-SJWs at least if youtube and social media is a good source to go by.
China would've censored the game for the Doctor if he'd been Asian. Christians in the USA throw a hissy fit any time someone portrays their particular flavor of christianity in a bad light or just dares to release something they find offensive. You're seriously underestimating how many countries would boycott and/or ban this game for minor things.
The general population is neither explicitly for nor explicitly against SJWs, and we agree that both sides are (at least) equally annoying. This discussion had nothing to do with SJWs, but you just had to bring up the subject.
The US CAN not censor games based on religion so that point is moot, them throwing a fit would be actual free advertisement. China doesn't care about religion if it's portrayed in a bad way.
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@Saint_Ukraine said:
See, my problem is that there aren't enough of them, so I never really know how to counter them when I actually encounter either of them.After he hit u with deep wound stay reasonably close but still keep him loop-able. There's no point in looping him if you're not hurt by using windows, try to loop him at a pallet without dropping it and only drop it when he is about to hit you.
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@fcc2014 said:
@ChesterTheMolester said:
Looks like my taxes are well spent...
He is proud of his achievement.
I never said that but I also want to live in a way that is fit for a human being, how is that hard to understand?
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10-15% survival rate is still okay, I don't see the issue, it's DEAD by daylight not survive by daylight
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@Orion said:
@MhhBurgers said:
They could stir up some free advertisement by going the route of a real religion but they are much too SJW for that.No, they'd stir up censorship instead, which is why they're not going to shoot themselves in the foot.
Seriously, anti-SJWs are more annoying than SJWs.Censorship by who rofl, no country that has many ppl playing DBD would censor them for religious context.
Also the general population would probably disagree with your opinion about anti-SJWs at least if youtube and social media is a good source to go by.
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They could stir up some free advertisement by going the route of a real religion but they are much too SJW for that.