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@Orion said:
@Boss said:
How about this...No One Escapes Death, Perk Level 1
- No One Escapes Death starts with 1 Token.
- Once the Exit Gates are powered, No One Escapes Death is enabled & Survivors suffer from the Exposed Status Effect.
- Everytime you instantly put a Survivor from any Health State into the Dying Health State using your main weapon, remove 1 Token.
- No One Escapes Death is disabled after reaching 0 Tokens.
No One Escapes Death, Perk Level 2
- No One Escapes Death starts with 2 Tokens.
- Once the Exit Gates are powered, No One Escapes Death is enabled & Survivors suffer from the Exposed Status Effect.
- Everytime you instantly put a Survivor from any Health State into the Dying Health State using your main weapon, remove 1 Token.
- No One Escapes Death is disabled after reaching 0 Tokens.
No One Escapes Death, Perk Level 3
- No One Escapes Death starts with 2 Tokens.
- Once the Exit Gates are powered, No One Escapes Death is enabled & Survivors suffer from the Exposed Status Effect.
- Everytime you instantly put a Survivor from the Healthy Health State into the Dying Health State using your main weapon, remove 1 Token.
- No One Escapes Death is disabled after reaching 0 Tokens.
In case you didn't notice, i removed the Hex part.
I like the idea, but I feel it just makes NOED go back to how it was before the nerf where it became a Hex perk. It's sort of halfway between that and how it is now.
The whole idea behind hexperks is ######### bad in the first place. Experienced players will remove hexes without a problem, inexperienced players will get ridiculously stomped.
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@MaxiferPriest said:
@BACKSTABBER said:
- NOED Totem is not visible to killer
- When all gennies are repaired, NOED + exposed warning are displayed (no need to wait to hit a surv)
- Only 1/2/3 instadown hits with a counter in the perk
- NOED is enabled only if you are the last surv
- NOED requires at least x hooks to be active (besides the other conditions)
- NOED only applied to the obsession (if there is any)
- NOED has a countdown of 20/30/50 seconds
- NOED tier 3 is the only that instadowns, the tier 1 and 2 only increases your speed
- NOED loves NOED so much
- NOED only working while transporting a surv
- NOED only working when 1 or 2 exit gates are open
- NOED's totem is visible to survs once it is enabled
- NOED's totem is visible to survs all the time
- NOED's special sound to let survs know we got a NOED match
- NOED's totem can be cleansed faster than other totems
- ...complete more NOED nerfs with your crazy ideas:
NOED
dude NOED is in perfect spot. it has several counters so stop crying about it baby boy
biggest issue is that the killer perks basically scale with difficulty. Most are close to useless at highranks and easily countered while lowlevel players will struggle with hexes.
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@powerbats said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@powerbats said:
@MhhBurgers said:
The difference is that NOED is mostly only bad for the health of the game and just as unfun as DS, it's only going to work against very altruistic survivors or in other words ppl playing to have fun
Why can't we just delete both and get rid of the biggest gripes for 2 sides so we can then choose 2 new gripes to argue about for the next few years till those get removed?
For killers it'd be either Adrenaline or insta Heals and for survivors Iri hatchets or Mori's I'd say Iri hatchets and Insta heals can be yanked next.
Iri hatchets should just not be usable with infantry belt, they'd be fine otherwise.
All forms of instaheal need to go, toolboxes need to be redesigned since gens are going fast enough as is. NOED should go but non-instadown killers would need something for endgame.
For Insta heals I think the only way they stay is if you'd have to channel 2 seconds fully for Styptic and 5 seconds for Syringe to get their effects. You'd also have to use the highest medkit and could carry no other addons.
It'd also have to be fully charged and any use of it even if by accident or not using the insta heal destroys the medkit.
Ir's I like your suggestion of no extra capacity and yes tool boxes should be tweaked some, perhaps if more than 1 person is on a gen it has worse efficiency and if 2 tb's even more so.
Also lets finally get rid of BNP's since for the price they're worthless really.
I'd redesign toolboxes to give survivors only great skillchecks while using them to help noobs with RUIN
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@powerbats said:
@MhhBurgers said:
The difference is that NOED is mostly only bad for the health of the game and just as unfun as DS, it's only going to work against very altruistic survivors or in other words ppl playing to have fun
Why can't we just delete both and get rid of the biggest gripes for 2 sides so we can then choose 2 new gripes to argue about for the next few years till those get removed?
For killers it'd be either Adrenaline or insta Heals and for survivors Iri hatchets or Mori's I'd say Iri hatchets and Insta heals can be yanked next.
Iri hatchets should just not be usable with infantry belt, they'd be fine otherwise.
All forms of instaheal need to go, toolboxes need to be redesigned since gens are going fast enough as is. NOED should go but non-instadown killers would need something for endgame.
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@The_Crusader said:
CronaWins said:@The_Crusader said:
So what we've learned recently...
Killers: NERF THEIR CRUTCH PERK!!
DS gets nerfed
Survivors: Ok now you nerf your crutch perk too so that it's fair
Killers: Nuh-uh!
The childish entitlement.
DS isn't counter-able and relies on the survivor to miss the skill check. Survivors get a free escape and killer loses needed pressure.
Noed is one of 5 totems you can break and have the entire game time to do so.
I still fail to see the comparison.
Not to mention the new DS perk is going to be super strong end game anyway, it's just removing the early pressure loss for killer.
Noed is a mediocre perk and any decent killer will win before all 5 gens are completed. Survivors already move onto complaining about other perks when killers start getting 'sweaty' to win, like it is at rank 1 currently.
You say "any decent killer will win before all 5 gens are completed".
So then if the game is easy for decent killers to win, does that not prove NOED is too much? If the killer can pressure survivors that much then how are they expected to cleanse the totems? Does it not boost a good player with a strong killer into OP territory?
And if a decent killer can win like that, then does it not say that people that cant just need to get better? Why should they have a free boost to grant them a few kills? Out of pity?
People compare noed and ds because both perks can change the outcome of the game in an instant and really screw the other side even if they played well.
No perks should be able to swing the game so easily. BBQ can't do it, Sprint Burst can't do it. Both are really strong but can't turn the tide of the game in an instant.
The difference is that NOED is mostly only bad for the health of the game and just as unfun as DS, it's only going to work against very altruistic survivors or in other words ppl playing to have fun
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@PiiFree said:
Wanted to play some chill matches after a few days break from DbD.These players turned me into a literal facecamper and I've never done that in months if not years.
The endgame chat didn't make it better at all.
Same, packed out LF with a full camperbuild. I only camped if somebody had DS tho. I'd pick up the obsession, see if he wiggles if he wiggles I'd basically play perkless but if he didn't or if I even got dstriked then prepare for the insidious facecamp.
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@Akuma said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@Akuma said:
Dude this is normal. It's always so and will ever be. That's not in meaning of toxcity or sth. DS is an very very old perk with a long and intense story. I didnt played it since 2 years and Im playing it these days. It will never come back, so why not enjoy? Even as killer. I mean I know what will happen so Idc ^^ I understand
maybe you should too
just why notI didn't spam my ebony moris when they were about to (rightfully so) nerf them, maybe some ppl have integrity, maybe it's maybelline.
Who wouldnt. Everyone wants to enjoy strong this before they become fixed. If they would say: We fix moris in about 1 weeks i wouldnt dodge them anymore or play some sweet mori matches
I don't. If something is broken I don't spam it, I always liked playing the underdog.
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The killer is the EU trying to kill the internet.
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@The_Crusader said:
So what we've learned recently...Killers: NERF THEIR CRUTCH PERK!!
DS gets nerfed
Survivors: Ok now you nerf your crutch perk too so that it's fair
Killers: Nuh-uh!The childish entitlement.
NOED is nowhere near the power of DS.
A similar perk would be "Destructive Strike" - The killer has to make a "very" difficult skillcheck during pickup animation, if he succeeds the survivor will be down further in another hookstage and has his actionspeed decreased by 25% for XX/XX/XX seconds.
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@TreemanXD said:
I am rank one.... @MhhBurgers those perks work if you’re good and you think you can‘t m1 survivors just cause you’re legion? You don’t play legion by m2ing them all to death.
ofc you can but it takes way to long on most spots that are frequented by survivors. Mindgames work like crap with just 110% ms. There's a reason why you don't chase as the hag.
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@TreemanXD said:
@MhhBurgers spirit fury, brutal strength, enduring, and bamboozle btw I’m a legion main and I scare my survivors into healing by m1ing them and then free hook my chases are normally short just with gen protection perks, maybe you just need to work on your chase?Brutal strenght is #########, enduring+SF is 2 perkslots, Bamboozle is easily countered by abandoning the loop and going for another since legion is not fast enough to catch up. Any good r1 survivor worth his salt will not get downed by your M1 unless you use the cooldown reduction addons or get lucky on the maps with big non-see through jungle gyms.
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@TreemanXD said:
@MhhBurgers I won’t go digging for evidence, but people are allowed to have a opinion on perks.Killers have no perks that give as much accumulated power as Borrowed Time and old DS (and even the new nerfed DS even if you don't tunnel on purpose but it's still prefered since I hate tunneling myself when I play surv with friends) The only perk that killers have that is for example similar to adrenaline is NOED. most of our really good perks need to be used in combos like spirit fury and enduring and are situational at best. Ruin is the only metaperk that a killer has that influences a match because ruin is something that will ALWAYS buy you some time along with Sloppy Butcher if you're not playing Legion. We have almost nothing to outright shorten a chase.
Killers were supposed to be the power role yet overall survivorperks are as strong as killer perks or even stronger because the devs are afraid of losing their playerbase if the balance ever tipped in killer's favour.
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@TreemanXD said:
I can safely say that @powerbats isn’t biased you are allowed to have opinions leading towards one side but I’ve seen him agree with killers.the guy who thinks a perk that basically gives survivors another hookstate is balanced sometimes wants to buff killers? whoa. Give me an example of one of those "hard" buffs.
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@Morgan93 said:
So much complaints only for a perk, you guys finally have the change you always asked for and still complaints. Use Enduring and problem resolved, no need to cry about itIt's funny how survivors expect killers to pick perks to counter survivor perks. If we had 16 perkslots maybe we could reliably start countering 16 possible perks.
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@Carpemortum said:
MhhBurgers said:@CJsDBD said:
Pandifer said:
As a survivor main, I hate to say it, but stop checking on it first thing. I note where you go and know where it is.
This is 100% true, I only ever find ruin right away when the killer just goes there as soon as the match starts
ppl think there's much intricacy to this simple game. It doesn't make a difference, survivors still spawn ontop of it so if you don't go there it can still break in the first 20 seconds. The whole hex idea is one of the worst game design choices that I have ever come across in any game.
Really? Even above p2w loot crates?
I don't play those games and I don't consider them games at all. My friends love them and claim I'm just too poor which is why I hate those games even more.
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@powerbats said:
@Tzeentchling9 said:
The_Bogeyman said:@Tzeentchling9 said:
If you blatantly ignored outside cheats with voice coms, sure, what he said about using perks and strats the game provides is true.
What foolishness is this. How are voice coms a cheat when its a sanctioned part of the game's swf. Get the hell outta here with that cheats crap.
Ah, please tell me where I can find the keybind for Push To Talk in the DBD Control Options, I can't seem to find it.
Ah yes the classic Straw Man when you can't refute troll your way out of a debate.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system#latest
If the new Battlefield in 2025 sells you an aimbot for 25€ that only headshots you'd also not consider that a cheat by this logic. A cheat is an unfair advantage that other players do not have, end of discussion. It doesn't matter if it's sanctioned by devs.
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@AChaoticKiller said:
@powerbats said:
@AChaoticKiller said:
@powerbats said:
Oh good grief, you lot are hilarious after whining to nerf DS it gets nerfed and you still complain, you get multiple obsession chances now if multiple people use it.It can't be used at all unless they unhook someone oh and hey you can still MORI them like before, it's almost as if gasp YOU CAN'T ADAPT.
You lot told survivors to adapt when teh SC changes went through, when the pallet changes went through, when the exhaustion changes went through.
What's even funnier is this hasn't even hit the PTB and back when the changes were announced and some survivors whined you told them the same thing I'm saying.
All you're doing is proving that you have to have something to complain about when things don't go your way or you play bad.
Meanwhile the rest of us are like meh it won't make a difference, we'll simply adapt to changes on either side and improve.
Oh and no survivors aren't spamming DS and it's not 4 man DS in every game, what a crock I've not run it since August of last year when I got Laurie's Adept.
The lobbies lately I've seen max 1-2 in each game since those that know better don't bring it since it's a wasted perk slot.
Nice b8 m8
Nice troll attempt oh wait just another failed troll response when you can't counter what someone says troll.
- More survivors are complaining about this DS change than killers
- remember when survivors told us to adapt to getting saves during pick up animation and pallet vaccum and... You wont believe this, infinits
- most players who use DS suck at knowing when to use it and even than it still wastes a lot of time (current DS)
- with this change we dont know if you have DS soooooooo idk why you mentioned moris and its sad if you need to use them to win
- DS needs this change as its actually more balanced than current so obviously we are telling survivors to deal with it; they just dont want to get their op perk nerfed
- pallets needed to get fixed no one not even the devs liked it just survivors, no one really asked for exhaustion nerf but it made sense and worked out
- finally, getting a chance for a different obsession only works with rancor the others either dont get affected or are hindered by this
Wow its pretty easy to argue with you, your points are so bad that its the reason I thought you were a troll
He's just ridiculously biased and mostly only cares about the game's health and funfactor instead of balance.
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@Saint_Ukraine said:
@Orion said:
@Saint_Ukraine said:
@Orion said:
@Saint_Ukraine said:
@Orion said:
@Saint_Ukraine said:
@Raccoon said:
It's literally getting Mega Buffed.Every game will have 4 DS now to "stop tunneling."
I'd suggest getting used to hearing "Ugh" and restarting the chase.
Also make sure you get used to being placed in literally unwinnable situations in the endgame
Enduring, tho. At least they have to be hooked first, right?
Enduring is to DS what a water balloon is to a forest fire.
Well the time is only 3 seconds for the new DS, and it's still subject to change. Just gotta wait for the PTB.
It's still not a counter. It's a dampener at best.
Well, not everything can be perfect.
Things without counters shouldn't be powerful.
Well, as I said, the perk is subject to change. Whether it be the stun duration, the window of time in which you can actually use the perk, or both, things may turn out different then you assume.
30-45 seconds is enough imo, 60 is overkill. It's there to prevent tunneling.
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@powerbats said:
Hmmn it's almost as if killers don't have tool to help them like mori's, Rancor, Enduring etc and the best one their brains to plan ahead.4 man takes ds, 4 man activates ds, 4 man gets obliterated by rancor and mori, 4 amns ds turns into double pip.
whiny killers still come to forum and complain because they have something that works and can't use ds as an excuse eanymore.
Rancor is not a counter to current and Rancor will be useless because the obsession will only be there AFTER DS.
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@DudeDelicious said:
Slayer said:@Arroz said:
Rush is a big problem, and instead of fixing it they make a buff ?, the only way to stop the rush is playing with the legion and sloppy butcher and with frank's mixtape and that is very unbalanced ..
The only way to prevent gen rush is to get good. Just get good. " I just got genrushed " means i just lost!
That’s not helpful. You have in no way told the guy what exactly he should be practicing
The only thing I'd practice against genrush is billy/nurse which no, I won't. Just because the other killers have a low skillcap doesn't mean they should be unviable against survivors who try their hardest
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@HatCreature said:
I just hope it's not another 110% movement Killer who has a speed power like Spirit and Legion, we got two Killers back to back like that, we need something simple and RAW! We need something HUGE wiho can puff up their chest to Billy andf saw ''this is ma fog now #########!''it's not gonna happen again, they don't want anything on billys or nurses level because who cares about sales right?
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@LegitAdventurer said:
MhhBurgers said:@LegitAdventurer said:
MhhBurgers said:
@LegitAdventurer said: "Genrush" isnt real lol. Genrush means the killer didn't apply any map control. If you find yourself being genrushed and seeing it as a "real problem" than you need to get better at killer. Why would a survivor stop doing a gen if you aren't chasing them? Lol You cannot exert mapcontrol on most killers and I refuse to stick to billy or nurse or spirit, they are pretty exhausting to play.
This is false. You play most killers. You can promote map control with any killer. Focus on gens, not survivors. Don't get caught up in a chase for no reason when you can get survivors off gens instead
Doesn't work against SWF, once you're chasing somebody they'll tell their buddies to do gens. And I refuse to do 3gen strats.
Sure it does. SWF isn't a win all. It's really not. Just because they're SWF doesnt mean You can't apply pressure lol. It sounds like you just need more practice.
Also why would you refuse to do 3 gen strats? That sounds like a personal issue lol.
3 gen only works against bad survivors or randoms in the first place. Why work with ######### gamedesign at all instead of fixing things. I don't need more practice, that's just common knowledge and has been proven again and again and again to the point where us non-billy/nurseplayers are just fed up with explaining.
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@LegitAdventurer said:
MhhBurgers said:@LegitAdventurer said:
"Genrush" isnt real lol. Genrush means the killer didn't apply any map control. If you find yourself being genrushed and seeing it as a "real problem" than you need to get better at killer.
Why would a survivor stop doing a gen if you aren't chasing them? Lol
You cannot exert mapcontrol on most killers and I refuse to stick to billy or nurse or spirit, they are pretty exhausting to play.
This is false. You play most killers. You can promote map control with any killer. Focus on gens, not survivors. Don't get caught up in a chase for no reason when you can get survivors off gens instead
Doesn't work against SWF, once you're chasing somebody they'll tell their buddies to do gens. And I refuse to do 3gen strats. If many gens are close to ######### like the shack or stuff like the asylum then you're ######### out of luck on most lowtier killers. There's a reason that you only saw nurse in the tournament.
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@LegitAdventurer said:
"Genrush" isnt real lol. Genrush means the killer didn't apply any map control. If you find yourself being genrushed and seeing it as a "real problem" than you need to get better at killer.Why would a survivor stop doing a gen if you aren't chasing them? Lol
You cannot exert mapcontrol on most killers and I refuse to stick to billy or nurse or spirit, they are pretty exhausting to play.
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@Mc_Harty said:
@MhhBurgers said:
"socialism doesn't work". Germany is literally a giant on the world stage right now, maybe don't watch too much alex jones.Not to be political, but tell that to Venezuela.
Corruption kills every system, and no germany is not leeching off of other EU countries, the interest rates at which our banks are giving away money are in my opinion too low even. (just getting that out there before any troll comes flying with that)
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
MhhBurgers said:@CaptainCastle said:
MhhBurgers said:
@brokedownpalace said: MhhBurgers said:
brokedownpalace said: So because you have a ######### set up you're complaining about the game. Sounds about right for a killer main. Nothing is ever your fault. Youre right. It's Not my fault that I won't get a bigger flat. In other games my setup is not an issue, war Thunder, league etc all have decently lighted areas.
Play them, then. Not sure why you expect the devs to alter their game because you don't have a proper way to play it. Everything in life is basically given to you for no effort nowadays, same should go for gaming. Thinking players need good peripherals to effectively play your game is ableism.
Troll confirmed
In germany you get a flat, 416+130+600€ each month for sitting on your ass and ppl here tell me life is hard.
Over one century of welfare in Germany and this is the result ladies and gentlemen.
But atleast you are living proof that socialism and communism doesn't work so i guess you are not completely useless.
"socialism doesn't work". Germany is literally a giant on the world stage right now, maybe don't watch too much alex jones.
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@Eveline said:
MhhBurgers said:taunting is toxic, what kind of stupid question is that? Go to any person in real life and taunt them, tell me how many teeth you have left afterwards.
They want to bully people without consequences. Good luck with that I guess.
Weak ppl always do that on the internet.
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@Akuma said:
Dude this is normal. It's always so and will ever be. That's not in meaning of toxcity or sth. DS is an very very old perk with a long and intense story. I didnt played it since 2 years and Im playing it these days. It will never come back, so why not enjoy? Even as killer. I mean I know what will happen so Idc ^^ I understand
maybe you should too
just why notI didn't spam my ebony moris when they were about to (rightfully so) nerf them, maybe some ppl have integrity, maybe it's maybelline.
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taunting is toxic, what kind of stupid question is that? Go to any person in real life and taunt them, tell me how many teeth you have left afterwards.
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@CaptainCastle said:
MhhBurgers said:@brokedownpalace said:
MhhBurgers said:
brokedownpalace said: So because you have a ######### set up you're complaining about the game. Sounds about right for a killer main. Nothing is ever your fault. Youre right. It's Not my fault that I won't get a bigger flat. In other games my setup is not an issue, war Thunder, league etc all have decently lighted areas.
Play them, then. Not sure why you expect the devs to alter their game because you don't have a proper way to play it.
Everything in life is basically given to you for no effort nowadays, same should go for gaming. Thinking players need good peripherals to effectively play your game is ableism.
Troll confirmed
In germany you get a flat, 416+130+600€ each month for sitting on your ass and ppl here tell me life is hard.
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@e8Lattice said:
@MhhBurgers said:
are you afraid of losing your little i-win the game button?"I Win" buttons have no place in multiplayer games. coughBBQ CHEESEcough
Lockers, Distortion, staying near the killer, counting to 4 and then going somewhere different.
maybe you should learn the game instead of making a fool out of yourself by complaining about stuff that is balanced and was aknowledged by the devs to be balanced.
It's not like there's much to learn in the first place, I'd hate to see you in anything complex.
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@brokedownpalace said:
MhhBurgers said:
brokedownpalace said:So because you have a ######### set up you're complaining about the game. Sounds about right for a killer main. Nothing is ever your fault.
Youre right. It's Not my fault that I won't get a bigger flat. In other games my setup is not an issue, war Thunder, league etc all have decently lighted areas.
Play them, then. Not sure why you expect the devs to alter their game because you don't have a proper way to play it.
Everything in life is basically given to you for no effort nowadays, same should go for gaming. Thinking players need good peripherals to effectively play your game is ableism.
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Also let's not forget the new DS makes basement builds viable again, those are the games that everybody has the most fun in.
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@fcc2014 said:
funny how so many killers play this game and can wreck lobbies while others still struggle. I guess that is what happens in multiplayer online games.Hatch core mechanic put in to keep frustrated players with garbage teammates to keep playing.
First person and third person perspective cameras at launch
3 additional second chance perks agree somewhat. DS in its original form was second chance, BT and the new DS punish Campers and Tunnelers. Deliverance if you are counting that was for solo players that get stranded by their teammates but needs conditions to activate.
BT and DS are still second chance perks, campers are punished by the genrush already. BT is activated in lategame too when there's no other objective for the killer to go after so it's not about punishing campers it's still a major crutch and the only perks that killers get that are comparable to survivor perks are: Enduring+SF combo (2 slots), Bamboozle and RUIN if it doesn't get cleansed right away.
If you put killers without perks the difference is marginal, often times 2 or 3 of your perks won't do jackshit. Most survivor meta-perks work in every situation, which is why they're meta.
The only meta that killers have is BBQ which right now I'll admit is mainly used to get us more BP and I'm not gonna be THAT Killer and claim more BP isn't a gameplay advantage since effectively BBQ gives us more and better addons and offerings.
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@fcc2014 said:
@MhhBurgers @Tucking_Friggered awww did i trigger the killer mains. Did the big bad survivors beat you up and steal your lunch money again. Run home to BHVR and maybe they will start survivors on the hook and give you a participation award too!A Participation award? you mean like the hatch? Or third person perspective on the guy being chased? Or up to 3 additional second chances in each match by perks alone?
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@twistedmonkey said:
I have read it all now
, the level of complaining has reached new heights with this post lol.Get a good sized cardboard box and cut it so that it fits over your monitor and the edges come far enough out at the side so the sun doesnt hit it or put a blancket over the box and pin or tape it in place so it doesnt fall and cover the screen, when playing pull it over your head.
Cats get sunlight, sunlight doesnt shine on your monitor, problem solved, you are welcome.
I didn't even clean the toilet for 21 days, what makes you think that I will cut out cardboard.
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@HeroLives said:
MhhBurgers said:@HeroLives said:
MhhBurgers said:
@HeroLives said: Spirit was op with the blood trails in the ptb can you imagine??? She was still considered mediocre at best even WITH the blood trails.
Nah that ish was broken wayyyyy broken
Nurse can see survivors and just teleport to them through anything, spirit had to follow your bloodtrail and could still be looped/pallet stunned.
More like spirit got a speed boost to follow your blood trail leaving a very minuscule window for mind gaming. They took it out for a reason before it even left the ptb. Imagine legion with frenzy but only ever having to 2 shot. Op.
Spirit cannot vault so it's not even comparable.
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@HeroLives said:
MhhBurgers said:@HeroLives said:
Spirit was op with the blood trails in the ptb can you imagine???
She was still considered mediocre at best even WITH the blood trails.
Nah that ish was broken wayyyyy broken
Nurse can see survivors and just teleport to them through anything, spirit had to follow your bloodtrail and could still be looped/pallet stunned.
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@HeroLives said:
Spirit was op with the blood trails in the ptb can you imagine???She was still considered mediocre at best even WITH the blood trails.
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@Slayer said:
@Arroz said:
Rush is a big problem, and instead of fixing it they make a buff ?, the only way to stop the rush is playing with the legion and sloppy butcher and with frank's mixtape and that is very unbalanced ..The only way to prevent gen rush is to get good. Just get good. " I just got genrushed " means i just lost!
The only way to prevent gen rush is to play billy or nurse, the others cannot prevent a genrush unless the survivors 3 gen themselves.
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The killer is OP? Neither spirit nor Legion were OP on the PTB
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@fcc2014 said:
@Tucking_Friggered said:
@fcc2014 said:
@Tucking_Friggered said:
Deal with it chap. That's what happens when you create a bully simulator and have your queues tank because no one wants to play killer regularly. Don't worry as more changes will come additionally until you absolutely struggle to survive a match.
;}BAHAHAHA You actually believe that?
I sure do. Self Care changed, Sloppy Butcher changed, pallet adjustments, DS is going poof. I can understand it feels good to deny you are being slapped in the face when you can't change it but that loud echo, the sting, and red mark are objective reality.
All the DS change is Boost Survivors who didn't need to run DS to escape. Now they can equip it or not and if you tunnel as a killer YOU need to make a choice. The only way you will succeed in this game with your attitude is if 3 start on the hook and 1 slugged down starting the trial. They can continue to make killer Easier but survivors will always adapt. You are also the one asking for people to stop posting about Nerfing your Precious NOED. Don't worry NOOB they will keep it for players just like you.
as a survivor you literally have all cards in your hands, there's not much intricacy to playing survivor, calling killers easy when THEY have to rely on YOU messing up to win is gold.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@Laakeri said:
@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@Laakeri said:
@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@MhhBurgers said:
It's cool for you but "competitive" DBDplayers are a joke in the gaming world and you know that full well.You cannot be competitive if your game doesn't even feature a competitive mode. (Yeah it's called ranked with ranks but since it's the only mode available the point is moot)
Your rank isn't a competition. You don't get anything for your rank. No achievements, no bloodpoints......nothing. Competitive players in any game are usually a joke because they act like you are. They take it too seriously.
But you're also insulting players simply for using strong load outs which are perfectly legit and within the bounds of the game. The only reason you're doing this is because its a survivor based topic and you are clearly killer biased. I've yet to see you chastise in a killer based topic for doing the same thing.
I've spoken against ######### like Ivory Moris and Hatchet instadown belts, thing is there's currently not much broken in a killer's loadout. In my opinion perks should be perks, not basically new skills. Most perks that killers use are very situational at best, the only thing I can consider cheese is the enduring, SF and bamboobzle combo that takes away any mindgame.
If you'd put a killer without perks vs 4 survivors without perks the powerdifference would shrink by alot.
What are you talking about? Perks should be perks and not new skills? So should perks like overcharge and pop goes the weasel should be removed because they allow killers to do things to gens they cannot usually do? BBQ and chili, spies from the shadows, rancor, discordance, surveillance, enduring, knock out, franklins demise, NOED.....I could go on forever. They all give killers abilities or "skills" that they don't usually have.
As for the situational argument, so are most survivor ones. They only get to use most of them in certain situations. Killers have perks that can be used against them or make them tougher to use. For example self care can be made more difficult with nurses calling, sloppy butcher, coulrophobia etc. Even the hated DS is situational, a one off use, not even a guarantee you can hit it, and can be countered.
Even the Devs have acknowledged that the current DS has no counters, hence why its getting changed. Nice one tho.
Yeah they have "acknowledged" this after two and a half years of leaving it the way it is. Clearly this was an urgent issue to them. The only reason this is getting changed is to appease the killer complaints. Nothing more. If there's an onslaught of survivor complaints about the new DS when it comes out, how long before it gets another rework do you think.
Of course there is counters to DS. Dribble to the hook. Or use enduring. They are tried and true counters that can and do work. Overwhelming presence is a good one, too. Makes the skill check so small its almost impossible to hit it.
I think you are confusing the words "counter" and "mitigation". Things you described are mitigations, not counters.
Of course they're counters. Or are you seriously trying to tell me these methods have never made DS useless? Lol I mean the devs even had to list reporting killers for dribbling as not being a bannable offense in the rules as so many DS users were being denied it because of it.
Dribbling is not a counter to DS, if there'd be a perk that would give you 20 seconds of time before the killer can hang you up you'd probably consider taking it. Because dribbling takes a long as time and is not guaranteed either and can be easily countered by taking a hit.
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@BillyIII said:
I too would love it if the devs have added more options for those of us not blessed with a perfect monitor and a pair of perfect eyes, situated in perfect lighting conditions. But realistically, reshade is your only option for the foreseeable future.Not just this but the sound is also unneccesarily bad, without using a headset you can just forget hearing survivors.
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Youre right. It's Not my fault that I won't get a bigger flat. In other games my setup is not an issue, war Thunder, league etc all have decently lighted areas.brokedownpalace said:So because you have a ######### set up you're complaining about the game. Sounds about right for a killer main. Nothing is ever your fault.
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@Master said:
MhhBurgers said:@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@MhhBurgers said:
If we'd talk about any competitive game like league sure, this is a game that you'll play during your break or when you have nothing else to do.
Speak for yourself. I don't play this game because I have "nothing else to do". I play it because I enjoy it. Simple as that.
It's cool for you but "competitive" DBDplayers are a joke in the gaming world and you know that full well.
You cannot be competitive if your game doesn't even feature a competitive mode. (Yeah it's called ranked with ranks but since it's the only mode available the point is moot)
Of course dbd is a joke when it comes to o competitiveness, nobody can take a ranking system seriously if everyone, even beginner players, can reach the pro ranks with ease
A ranking system as the only gaming option takes away all what ranking is about. If you queue up ppl who want to dick around with ppl who tryhard for their lives then it doesn't mean jackshit if tryharders win.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@MhhBurgers said:
It's cool for you but "competitive" DBDplayers are a joke in the gaming world and you know that full well.You cannot be competitive if your game doesn't even feature a competitive mode. (Yeah it's called ranked with ranks but since it's the only mode available the point is moot)
Your rank isn't a competition. You don't get anything for your rank. No achievements, no bloodpoints......nothing. Competitive players in any game are usually a joke because they act like you are. They take it too seriously.
But you're also insulting players simply for using strong load outs which are perfectly legit and within the bounds of the game. The only reason you're doing this is because its a survivor based topic and you are clearly killer biased. I've yet to see you chastise in a killer based topic for doing the same thing.
I've spoken against ######### like Ivory Moris and Hatchet instadown belts, thing is there's currently not much broken in a killer's loadout. In my opinion perks should be perks, not basically new skills. Most perks that killers use are very situational at best, the only thing I can consider cheese is the enduring, SF and bamboobzle combo that takes away any mindgame.
If you'd put a killer without perks vs 4 survivors without perks the powerdifference would shrink by alot.
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At this point survivors are getting so many second chances that I'm wondering what the devs are thinking. The gap between solo and SWF has become ridiculous with SWFplayers having up to 3 times more "life" than solo survivors.
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@Tarvesh said:
MPGamer18 said:BHVR is doing everything they can to balance the game. Yet they ignore the one facet of this game that no amount of perk balancing can correct ... SWF. It needs to be it's own mode. Separate it into Duo's and Quads and be done with it.
This can’t be done. Even if they made SWF impossible, survivors would just send each other a discord link or create a group on console. They’ll always be able to communicate no matter what you do. Survivors will always have the advantage of communication.
Which is why they would need to give killers the frowned upon aura reading perks for free if they even INTENDED to make this game fair. But they won't.
Then again this would absolutely screw up casual survivor players who just sit in diskord to talk random ######### instead of giving away every info like it's call of duty. There's no winning here tbh, the game should've been balanced around SWF from the start.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@MhhBurgers said:
If we'd talk about any competitive game like league sure, this is a game that you'll play during your break or when you have nothing else to do.Speak for yourself. I don't play this game because I have "nothing else to do". I play it because I enjoy it. Simple as that.
It's cool for you but "competitive" DBDplayers are a joke in the gaming world and you know that full well.
You cannot be competitive if your game doesn't even feature a competitive mode. (Yeah it's called ranked with ranks but since it's the only mode available the point is moot)