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@JPLongstreet said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3052247#Comment_3052247
Billy and Blight may not agree with this...
You are absolutely right. 2 of the killers I never play
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I dont understand why the developers thought his current addons are helping his power as Dream Demon, when they installed them.
He needs Addons which let him place Dream Snares (if(!) u stay with these) faster, make them stronger (20% for example), gives Dream Projection a faster Animation, an Aurareading like old Freddy had etc.
For me, his Dream Snares should be removed and instead he gets new power besides the Dream Projection.
He could place Dream Pallets, Dream Breakable Walls, Dream Gens or Dream Totems and if surv interact with these, something happens. (Aurareading, Exhausted-Effect, injured or Speed Penalty for the next (real) gen).
This options are available via addons. One gives this, one another.
Which means: give him different playstyles which one addon or another. Addons, who help his abilities, not doing random sh....., what they are doing now.
Alternate: Give him a speed boost to 4,7m/s while chasing in dream or Hindered-Effect while being in chase.
So many opportunities, everything seems better than current Snares.
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@Sally_S_gay_son said:
I agree, Freddy's ability to teleport to gens can be super oppressive paired with the right perks, he is far above a lot of the other killers
But thats his only real weapon. Freddy lives from perks more than other killers.
He needs an Addon-Pass AND a better Dreamworld.
If u would make an opinion poll, which killer needs an Addon-Pass, I think Freddy would be Nr. 1.
You listen to us who are left fighting for Freddy, @BHVR?
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Tunneling an annoying cu.... eh person, who teabaggs every god pallet and clicks the hell out of a flashlight.
If this sort of survivor is around, my only goal is to tunnel and facecamp them, I dont care about the whole game anymore.
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When Killers (like me) lost 2-3 games in a row with a low-tier killer, they switch to a strong one to win and feel better.
Why? Because everyone plays for having fun. Getting teabagged in the exit gate isnt that much fun. Instead of just leaving, a lot of kids (no matter how old they are) think its fun to blamr the other human, who played killer, which means only with these guys they get a game.
Just be nice to each other, but that seems really rare in worlds humanity since a couple of years.
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Every killer - just be an indoor map please. 😄
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This moment when players complain about things they could easily avoid by countering them. How to do that? By doing nothing when the gen popped with PR.
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A really nice map. I want it back!
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@Tryharder said:
With the iron will nerf coming freddy useless addons they nerfed should finally do something.
No. His Swing Chain, for hearing Footsteps louder, is a nice Counter for Iron Will. With the patch, u dont even need them. So more worthless kit.
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I am a Freddy-Main and I have to say something about it:
1.) His Dream Projection is his best bet in a game. He can, other than any other killer, fake the Teleport, to activate Dead Man Switch for example on Gens far away. Especially if u know somebody is there. If they dont let go, u just teleport through and DMS will activate.
Same for the current Pop/Call of Brine.
2.) His snares can be used on chokepoints (in floors) and as anti-loop. Most of the time you need 2 snares to secure the hit or the pallet-drop.
3.) Clown has only his slowdown-bottle, but no map-pressure. I think Clown is under Freddy.
4.) His weakness is obviously, that his powers only be available when u have a lot of guys in dream. If not, u have no power, which is fine, WHEN its harder for survivors to wake up.
5.) His addons are a massive handicap. He needs an Addon-Pass more than any other killer in the entire game!
For me, he is currently Top C-Tier or Low B-Tier (but i play him for hundreds of hours and know what i can do, what works and what doesnt).
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3050140#Comment_3050140
No one expects it because it's garbage
Every addon is garbage besides the Paint Brush.
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@supersonic853 said:
how tf is black box even C? It's a Iri that gives 12 seconds of blood warden to asleep survivors sure. It could block the gate the entirety that your asleep and itd be finally halfway decent. Since survivors would just go get the clock then run to the gate with the invulnerability. But there's no way i see it as C currently. Others seem about right though.
I putted it into C because no one expect it when u dont play with No Way Out. As I said before, I could easily put the whole B-Tier-Addons into C-Tier with ease, which means this thing would be bottom C.
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@JackOfTrades said:
Old black box Add-on was decent if I remember correct...right?
Obsession starts in Dream and can never wake up.
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They want killers to not camp but removed the information from Pain Resonance. Instead, they should go for 10% Regression, but stay with the information, where u could go next.
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FREDDY in the first place.
He has 1 (in words: ONE!) Addon. Its called Red Paint Brush. Everything else is a bad joke. You can hear footsteps, Grunts of Pain or a Gen louder, IF they are in Dreamword... WOOOOOOOOOOOW, so amazing...
You get Hemmorhage OR Blindness-Effect, IF survs are asleep AND interact with a Snare - for a limited time... one time its 60secs, one time 30secs, Z-Block 90sec.... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW (other killers have addons which gives survivors Hemmorhage, Mangled and Blindness at once OR - more important - Exhausted-Status-Effect)
You get 3% or 2% faster reload for Dream Projection per Surv IN DREAM with Masterpiece / Sketch..... which gives you 1 - 1,5secs faster teleport... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW (Demo has Addons which gives him 15% cooldown on a shred, Dredge has numbers over 20 Percent in Addons etc.)
and lets not forget the Dresses/Woolshirt, which gives 4% Penalty for failing a skill-check - The Difference: An Aura-Reading - IF you are ASLEEP - WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
3 Addons for changing Snares into Pallets: The Difference: An Aura-Reading... yea they interact in front of Freddy... but hey, nice for having Aura-Reading of this one survivor. Hell yea, its christmas. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
You cant even stop survivors while waking up, because u cant see the clocks... his addons are by far the worst in the entire game.
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I would like to see them as an option in the custom match, just for testing stuff out.
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From worst to 5th-worst:
- Myers - for me he is the weakest killers of them all, BUT: You can play in different ways, for example Wallhack-Myers on certain maps, which is - at least - fun. Fun should be the key-word to everything in GAME.
- Sadako - Her Demanifestation does literally nothing, no survivor will fall for that, except Noobies, who never played against her. Her 2nd ability, the Teleport, is ok, but the TV-Placements are HORRIBLE. Most of the time you are coming out while the gen is BEHIND you, so u dont have anything from your speedboost + survs hear u coming 1hour before + they can see it on their icon, when u generate a Ring-Token
- Pig - Pigs RNG-Ability got buffed, which is good. Unfortunately, sometimes u are not being able to set-up all 4 (or more) Traps before all gens are done, because she has no Map-Pressure-Tool. Her Ambush is fun, but too weak. On some maps u can use it pretty nice and its fun when it worked out, but: Its far too situational. However, her different Addons, which are good in my opinion, make her a killer I enjoy to play (Amandas-Letter Wallhacks, Early-Game-Pressure with the Video Tape, Ambush-Build or extremely fast Trap-Placement).
- Ghostface - His ability isnt that great, besides that he is an M1-Killer with no power besides it.
- Trapper - he needs his Trap-Sack as basekit and his addon should allow him to replace the traps. On top, traps should exhaust Survivors, when they are in + no easy escapes anymore.
- Freddy - I am a Freddy-Main and it hurts extremely to know, that he will suffer the most from the upcoming changes. If we receive new Perks like Dissolution for example, most of the time he cant use them, because he has no Terror-Radius. Perks based on Terror-Radius only are a bad concept. His Main-Power is his Dream Projection and - more important - the possibillity to FAKE the Projection. This is his unique power, the Snares are nothing but copies from Clowns Bottle for example, nothing special for "The Nightmare". You could do so much with the Dreamworld, which is currently, lets be honest, a pure joke. You can combine your Fake-Teleports with Dead Man Switch or teleport to the Tinkerered-Gen to Pop it, even in chases fake-teleports are a weapon, which is the most fun part of him. Unfortunately, all perks he uses (Ruin, Corrupt, Pop, Tinkerer, SH: PR, BBQ etc.) are gettiing nerfed. Well, I will find a different way to play him, BUT: He has BY FAR the WORST ADDONS in the entire game. He has literally 1 (in words: ONE!!!) addon in his package, the Red Paint Brush. Everything else is useless (yes, even the Projection-Addons with 3 and 2% gives him, what, 1 second?). I dont know what Freddy did to the Developers, but he gets nerfed and nerfed and, now, passive nerfed into absolutely nothing. He needs an Addon-Pass ASAP. On top of this, he didnt received any cosmetics btw. as the only killer in the entire game. All other "Licensed-Killers" received. What do BHVR has against the most iconic villain in the Horror-Franchise?
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@luvcraft said:
I mean, I guess it does what it's supposed to, but what it does is useless. You hit somebody, then 3 seconds AFTER that if they vault a palette in your terror radius it breaks the palette? For what killer and in what situation is that possibly a big help?
Maybe Huntress during a long chase? (meaning that 2 of Dredge's 3 perks are only good for Huntress?)
If the killer has a terror radius.....
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"Welcome to my world, bit.h"
😍 so much potential
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@Thusly_Boned said:
I don't think you'd ever see Freddy cosmetics unless BHVR got the rights to use the Craven/Englund version.
I hope they can get this. Do they try?
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@MinlerDemon said:
Please buff sadako to S tier. She should can walk through pallet and walls like nurse.
I agree with the walk through Walls. That would fit to her Demanifestation-Ability. If u can walk through humans, then u can walk through walls. The wall could turn into a color to warn survivors from where she will come (not too soon).
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@tippy2k2 said:
Almost certainly not as there seem to be some copyright things with it and New Line Cinema (basically like Friday the 13th, Wes Craven's estate has the rights to the character but NLC has rights to international distribution or something)
Freddy in DBD was made with New Line Cinema (hence we got the crappy version of Freddy instead of the good one)
Indeed. Robert Englung-Freddy is the only one.
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Dont say anything against RPD. This map is great!
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Legion:
Thana and Bloodecho are pure Meta. Bloodecho denies every exhausted perk (Actual Deadhard 😉) after a frenzy, when they all are injured.
Demo:
Save the Best for Last shows his full Potenzial especially on Demo. On Pig you can run it, too.
Sadako:
Noed with BBQ is a very good Endgame-Combo, because she can teleport to TVs nearby the gate. Noed alone gives u at least 1-2 more hooks.
Now Fun-Builds:
Freddy: Spirit Fury, Enduring, Brutal Strengh and Fake Pallet-Addon on The Game. So fun, so many spots to place fakes. Start with the paint Brush and set all 7 before u chase someone.
New: Overcharge + Dragons Grip + Trail of Tormund (hide at the gen, wait for a surv and one-hit)
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@Neamy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3031748#Comment_3031748
Dragons grip with overcharge
Overcharge - Camp the gen - Dragons Grip :-P
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Hook trades will still work. However, 2 Basekit-Stacks of STBFL means literally nothing. I dont notice it even when I have 4 Stacks lol.
5+ and you start to feel it as killer (at least i do).
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Here we are: S-Tier Trapper
Game over 😅
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@ShinobuSK said:
That map is a nightmare
So Freddy-Domain? 😅
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@Gorgonia said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3029624#Comment_3029624
Now they need to fix window vaulting hits because you're already meter away from the window and you still get hurt hah
Its called Launch...
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Im looking forward. I think we will see more Overcome, Sprint Burst and Lithe now.
VERY GOOD!!!!!
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If u cant vault windows with this Endurance, It has become more fair than it was before.
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Basement-Trapper is the way for an 4k.
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I really enjoy playing Sadako to be honest. I know she is probably bottom 5 of all killers, but she has potencial. For example the Old Newspaper, which gives me 33% more flickering after manifestation for mindgames at pallets. But there is no other addons than helps in chase as good as this brown one.
Secondly the TV-Placements are horrible. But thats the issue with all things like Jigsaw-Boxes, Wakeup-Clocks etc. - the placement is most likely at the back of a gen behind the wall, so her sprintboost out of the TV doesnt really matter, cause u lose it by doing the 180.
Small, but important things.
Condemn is the third thing. At the moment no one really cares about tvs to counter this, because Condemn is no danger.
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Awesome map for Pallet-Freddy 🥰
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When Pain Resonance no longer synergize with Dead Mans Switch, I am thinking about new ways for using Dead Mans Switch.
Well, with Freddy the Fake-Teleports still work, but what combo would u run for DMS? I dont think there is any and maybe DMS needs to be replacef by Opression/Overcharge whatever.
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@Renfear said:
I agree with OP. Tunnel and camp because survivors make the game thoroughly unenjoyable. Every time I try to place nice, I regret it. So, don't play nice.
OP means what? Sorry XD
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@Xendritch said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3027205#Comment_3027205
I was on dredge and wraith for like 5 hours last night and I think I only had situations that actually required camping once or twice the entire night. This feels like less of a "we" issue and more of a "you" issue and not spreading pressure effectively. Like you play characters with mobility like Freddy, Sadako, and Dredge and then you're camping like why though you're not playing to thier strengths at all.
Wrong, I never said Im camping all the time, especially not with Sadako, Dredge and Freddy (well, if I block all gens with Dead Mans Switch thanks to Fake Teleport, why should I leave the hook-area? Then of course I camp).
Most of the time I only camp when there are no more gens to do or when i have like 2 hooks or so. I think Im pretty good as Freddy for example and I win over 50% of my games with 3k or 4k.
The question is: How will the game change. We shall see. But I can share my thoughts, dont u think?
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@Xendritch said:
I think this is a bait thread but I'm not sure and that's concerning.
Its a bait-thread for telling you my fears about the changes. That "we" have to do camping even more. I dont like this, but this could make most sense. We shall see.
I really hope that the Chase-Changes for M1-Killers (I play Freddy in 1st place, Pig, Sadako, Dredge + some M2-Killers like Nemesis or Demogorgon most of the time), especially are helping for more kills without more camping. And no, I will never main Bubba, I hate this character.
My Main Killer-Issue is that they obviously want to kill my beloved PR + DMS Combo. I think PR is dead, 15% ok, but the hook-placements arent worth the Regression-Part alone. Mostly I have to walk to the 2nd hook close to me, so the 15% arent effective compared to normal hook. If they make PR 6 hooks instead of 4 it would be fine with the current RNG.
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@TragicSolitude said:
I look forward to dying because my teammates are Self Caring in corners against Sloppy. I really hope this change doesn't go through; it will punish people not running it for getting stuck with those who are.
At least basekit BT means teammates will have a harder time getting me killed at the hook, but not sure it'll be that much harder given it's only 5 seconds.
Basekit BT = Always attack after 5secs. If the unhooked surv has "normal BT" or "Off the record", fine, i didnt wasted much time, if not: hell yea, slaught-festival. Is this the new Killer-Gameplay? We will see.
Im a bit worried.
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Altruism is killers 5th perk.
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@TragicSolitude said:
If you hate the changes, stop playing the game. Taking it out on other players makes no sense. The players didn't make the changes. If I had any say, depipping would be gone, BBQ/WGLF stacks would be basekit, and we'd have real controller settings. But I don't have say, and I'm already miserable enough in solo queue that I'd seriously like to never play survivor again as is.
I just don't get it. I've never enjoyed standing around a hook as killer. That's not really playing a game. Even Animal Crossing has more action than that, and better still the campers there will have conversations with you.
Dude I just wanted to say that I expect this to happen. I also wrote, that I am not happy with this, what I expect. Chill, man :-)
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@versacefeng said:
You do realize that the majority of meta survivor perks got gutted and most killer interactions got increased so your job is easier, right?
well, we will see about that. I doubt it.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
When one of you Killer Mains open a Thread, are you trying to put in all the buzzwords to make it sound as dramatic as possible?
"Circle of Healing SWFs"...
And I really dont get what makes you think that you deserve a Kill just because it is Endgame. If you have so many Survivors still alive once the Gates are powered, what did you do all game?
Chasing a survivor with 10 God Pallets on The Game, getting 2 hooks for 5 gens. Sometimes. Why? Because the map design on a lot of maps are a handicap to "normal M1"-Killers.
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I really like playing SoloQ.
In fact, I receive more Rank-Ups in SoloQ than in SWF. Just doing my own thing, rescue as many randoms as I can.
The only reason for SoloQ is: Do not show up for the killer. Stay hidden, till the first chase has started and then: Make a Gen, run to the unhook as fast as u can, run 4 Solo-Perks (for example Deadhard, DS, Self-Care, Botany, Unbreakable, Mettle of Man etc.) and receive your +1 at the end of almost every match, even if u get killed.
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@Silasy said:
Nerf his addons for now. Maybe rework him after making a balanced game.
"making a balanced game".
Thats the funniest thing Ive ever readed.
The devs dont know how. They just count "Kills" and "Escapes". Everything else they seem not to see.
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@fulltonon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3026743#Comment_3026743
I thought this post was about how strong new camping will be so it was totally unexpected tbh.
Exactly. I assume this will become even more Meta-Gameplay.
Thats the reason I wrote this.
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@JohnWick1654 said:
Lot of killers already camp the survivors as the main strat my friend.
Why we need to do this?
Because Deadhard and map-design.
Why should a M1-Killer run around with 4 LT-Walls/Jungle-Gyms in the center of McMillain for example? Its a waste.
Do I like this as Killer-Main? NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
I have to do something like this if I want to win, otherwise, if I dont care about winning, I can play for 3 hooks.
Im very curious to see the way in the PTB. If the killers play serious, you will see this a lot I am afraid.
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Only if I run Pentimento.
I like Plaything. Ruin will be dead, never saw a perk so dead than Ruin will become.
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@rvzrvzrvz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3025709#Comment_3025709
Same. If you're a good killer and play meta builds you can already 3-4k more than half of your games, can you escape as consistently in solo Q ? I don't think so it's random, I don't see why they want higher kill rates, the lowest is nurse at 50% right ?
Under 50%. Its 46% for Nurses if I am correctly.
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@StarLost said:
He was fun.
See - that's the thing about new Freddy. They didn't just reign him in, they literally took every single fun thing out of his kit.
Which is probably why Freddy players tend to be the meanest, nastiest, most miserable folks to play against.
Hey.... 🤨