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  • @Dabrownman1812 On DS I totally agree and refuse to run it, I think it's fine to use when you're just learning the game and for the Adept which is a pain to get with her. But by say rank 10ish you shouldn't be running it anymore unless you're trying to be the bait for teh killer then it's understandable.

    I also don't run SB on any character unless I've got nothing better to use other than their tier I or II base perks which some are meh.

  • @Dabrownman1812 said:

    All depends on killer, rank, map, survivor perks. 

    True to an extent, during the summer event I'd never ever camped but had a Sabo jake when I was on huntress who I don't play much doing daily. He kept trying to sabo my event hooks with me on other side of the wall on Macmillan Estates.

    I kept chasing him and losing him among walls P3 and the area was perfect for him but I finally downed him and camped his arse. I let everyone else farm because event hooks are a no no and I didn't go after him doing my regular hooks.

    This David kept trying to rescue him and eventually the jerk kept going back to my same event hook even after being rescued and me going after the David. So at that point I hard camped him and after he got unhooked again I went after both and the Jake rage quit when he got downed a 3rd time.

    The other survivors didn't know the Jake was doing that till I told them and they agreed with what I'd been doing and thought it was pretty jerkish of him.

    For me personally I'll never try and sabo an event hook and as killer if you're saboing non event hooks i'll generally let it go unless you do it right in front of me. Then of course honor and practicality demand I go after you and try and hook you.

  • @MegaWaffle said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @Dabrownman1812 said:
    Also, survivors won't help you get points, destroy the survivors

    Isn’t every single thing killers get points from directly from or caused by a survivor?

    That still doesn't mean they helped you get points. I can't tell you how many times I've chosen to let 1 or 2 survivors go simply because the game ended quickly due to DCing or survivor stupidity. Yet I could count the amount of times on one hand that a survivor had that same mercy for me and let me get a kill in a match where I got destroyed.

    Play as you want be it merciful or brutal that is your own choice.

    I've let myself get sac'd if I've done well and the killer got destroyed because I know how that feels and I try and play honorably so to speak. Something that seems to be anathema to many on here and in game as well.

    I almost always let the last person get the hatch as a killer if they didn't teabag non stop and they aren't just afking in the entire match. I can't count how many times I've been told great killer etc for actually trying to let everyone have a good game.

    On games where I've 3 or 4k'd I usually get a gg or something along those lines because I go for the unhooker not the freshly unhooked person. They're wounded and will be easy prey later plus that means 2 not on gens.

  • @Dabrownman1812 said:

    This guy doesn't get the balancing, bbq crutch? Oh man. 

    Way to completely blow off what I said and try a Straw Man there.

  • @Orion said:
    I don't run Self Care, nor do I want it. I'd rather avoid a chase than need a crutch like that.

    I'm the same but BBQ, Whispers, Spies and some other things make it more difficult to play completely stealthy. Throw in Doctor who you still stand up and scream with Calm Spirit III (Doctor match at Rank 1 this am).

    Then throw in the teammates that bring a killer to you either by accident or on purpose or the killer just magically comes to your location. (This despite the fact there's not a gen anywhere close to you and the gens are all blowing up on other side of map.

    Take out Franklins Demise and killers lobby dodging the moment they see more than 1 or 2 medkits I'll stop running SC. I also tend to play mostly solo q but do play swf occasionally. But if I stop running SC then I bring something else and then some killers will complain about that.

  • @SneakyAlbaHD said:
    The only change I would make to Wraith at the moment is change his uncloak speed to what is was BEFORE the rest of the buffs. I've messed around with him a wee bit post-patch and that's all that's letting him down, really.

    Then you'd have to take away his built in Windstorm.

  • There's times where I'm trying to find the hatch or both gates and hatch are literally right next to each other and the killer is a Billy or Hag with traps etc. Throw in a large map and trying to find that hatch is a royal pain in the rear.

    Then you have killers that pretend to give you the hatch only to down you or grab you out of it then dribble you. They then proceed to hook you and smack you while nodding non stop at you and you wonder why ppl don't run for the hatch.

    I'd love to have a submit button where the killer can decide to end the game, they then get frozen in place and can't do anything and timer starts a countdown. The survivor then gets shown exactly where the hatch is and both exit gates are powered/opened.

    Say 2 minutes is good if they're not downed and bleeding out and they get no points for running around killer etc. Once the 2 minutes are up they're automatically sacrificed/mori'd by the entity ( I like 2n option myself).

    The killer is awarded the points for a full sacrifice if they don't leave and the survivor loses those points as if they'd been sacrificed so no evader higher etc.

  • @TheMadDoctor said:
    Wait wha? I thought it only went to...ooooooh [BAD WORD] I feel stupid. Really stupid.

    You're probably thinking of tier I and tier II and we all do that sometimes, some of us more than others. Myself probably near the top of that list, but shh don't tell anyone.

  • @Jack11803 said:

    @McCree said:

    Seriously...5 pages of comments but on my complex idea nobody said anything.

    You asked for civil feedback...

    I believe the Hello Kitty forums are that way if you want civil feedback >

    Sorry I just had to, but in all honesty you can get it here it just isn't always easy.

  • @Giche said:

    @NoxiousOnnyyxx said:

    No you get ignored because no one likes you. 

    @jiminie said:
    Delete the hooks

    And also notice how each killer favored opinion are spammed by "LOL".

    Here we are, perfect example : when they are proved wrong, most survivors mains proceed to act even more childish and moronic than usual.

    For the record i lol both sides when I find something funny. But especially @RSB so he feels appreciated. 😁

  • @Orion said:

    @lyric said:
    Yea, prepare to dodge 

    Instead they DC at the start of the trial, making Survivors lose their offerings. I've only recently started to use offerings as Survivor because I'm always concerned some ######### is going to make the Killer DC, rendering my offering useless.

    I hate it when it happens and also hate when it doesn't happen and the killer still dc's once they see the offerings. The only times I've ever last second switched something has been when I'm a Claudette (rarely play her) and 2 or more suddenly switch to her. Since that's pretty much a guaranteed lobby dodge or dodge after offerings.

    I'll swap to Meg since I can at least play her even without addons rady if I'm going to use any. Items I only change those last second if someone does a swap to an item when they didn't have one and there's more than 2 etc.

    Since oh they've got more than 2 items equipped better dodge or do it during offerings screen to screw them over. This isn't just a last second issue either but sucks either way.

    What I'd like to see is there be the 2 timers like currently but once lobby is full and no one has left survivors get the usual 45-50 second lobby countdown timer. But at 15 seconds the setups are locked in and then the killer has 10 seconds to decide so at 5 it auto locks everyone in still.

    But there also needs to be a killer lockin so that if all 4 are ready at 45 seconds and locked in the killer has 15 seconds to be ready after that it auto locks in. I've had so many lobbies where all the survivors are ready and the killer waits 30 seconds or more till they get auto locked in.

  • @Giche said:

    @M2Fream said:

    Excuse me? Point me to where killers review bombed. Oh wait. You cant. Because we didnt.

    You forgot to try to argue my other half of the post. The kne about hatch being unbalanced and stupid. Funny how you had nothing to say about that because you know its true.

    Don't even bother in this survivor's circlejerk.

    More often than not you argue against this :

    See the problem ?

    As opposed to a killer main circle jerk in this same thread right? So if we combine the 2 what kind of circle jerk would we get?

  • @Jack11803 said:

    @Oblitiry said:
    Kalec84 said:

    I'd love to know why with all those players i literally can't find a single match as killer...

    Double BP weekend so 50,000 of those players are playing as killer. ;)

    Maybe If survivor BP gain wasn’t so stupidly low in comparison

    It's because survivors aren't playing to show those mean killers not to be mean to them.

  • @SovererignKing said:
    They ban for it with proof. That being said, you need to remove those pictures ASAP. You’ll get in trouble for name and shame rules. Contact a mod and send them proof.

    This or white out the names so they're not visible like this.

  • @Lowbei said:
    i think wglf should let you see killer for 4 seconds when you unhook, to balance out bbq.

    That's interesting similar to same the gen one.

  • @Doomsaki said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Doomsaki said:

    @Dreamnomad said:
    The wraith doesn't need anything. He is in a pretty great place now. If you aren't performing well on him now then it is your fault, not the wraiths.

    The problem is that there is mathematically not enough time to kill two people before generators complete.

    Finding someone at the start, chasing them for 2 or 3 different pallet loops, and doing it over again twice and bam all the generators are done at the high ranks. Wraith doesn't have the map pressure to delay much elsewhere in between. All wraith has going for him in his base kit is 0 terror radius, but killers like myers and pig pretty much do that but more without having to ring a bell and start a chase after survivors have run away a bit. Hillbilly moves faster and gets surprise chases as well.

    The best you can do is pray that survivors don't find your ruin totem until its too late.

    Wraith at rank 1 are pretty much cleaning house right now and it's rare for them not to get at least 3-4 every game.

    That's an interesting claim, but whats the evidence behind that statement. What is he doing that other killers aren't against high ranks? Camping? Gen-patrol? I've given examples on how he's very much eclipsed in terms of base-kit.

    There's been some soft camping, and most go right back to hooked person with a lot of ms addons going. Some are using Ruin while others aren't. There's quite a few with Make Your Choice, Devour Hope, NOED etc.

    The ones cleaning up are all P3 or Legacy Wraiths and all are highly skilled, they know how to anticipate really well, 360's almost never work on them. The chases are all usually done in less than a minute and 1st hit is within 10 seconds of finding you or less.

  • @Doomsaki said:

    @Dreamnomad said:
    The wraith doesn't need anything. He is in a pretty great place now. If you aren't performing well on him now then it is your fault, not the wraiths.

    The problem is that there is mathematically not enough time to kill two people before generators complete.

    Finding someone at the start, chasing them for 2 or 3 different pallet loops, and doing it over again twice and bam all the generators are done at the high ranks. Wraith doesn't have the map pressure to delay much elsewhere in between. All wraith has going for him in his base kit is 0 terror radius, but killers like myers and pig pretty much do that but more without having to ring a bell and start a chase after survivors have run away a bit. Hillbilly moves faster and gets surprise chases as well.

    The best you can do is pray that survivors don't find your ruin totem until its too late.

    Wraith at rank 1 are pretty much cleaning house right now and it's rare for them not to get at least 3-4 every game.

  • @Might_Oakk said:
    Pretty sure someone said it just reached its highest player count ever on steam today at 54,000.

    Not sure where you get dying game from /shrug

    Yeah every time someone's quitting they throw that out there trying to make it like the game will miss them. It's a known fact that people come and go from games all the time while other new ones join.

    I mean people have been saying WOW has been dying for over 12 years now and League for the past 5.

  • @Lowbei said:
    we are all excited for the changes, especially this guy

    We had a fun match together this am he and I and I wanted him to post that he was back and not Ruin the surprise.

  • @xxaggieboyxx said:
    Very motivational but survivors most of the time don't treat me so well so I think I'll play the way I see fit also pallets were buffed in this last update so idk what you are talking about them being nerfed. And if you are talking about the vacuume that was never intended and was just recently fixed 

    Toxicity breeds more of the same and pallets weren't buffed this last patch, in fact they were trying to change the phantom hit/miss issue. The vacuum issue needed to be fixed however but in doing so they still haven't fixed the hit/miss issue.

  • You could take your idea and add to it like this, they get the bonus tokens for doing the objectives, gens/totems/healing but unhooking and safely unhooking at that will always give more points.

  • @MegMain98 said:
    The crouching when Freddy is camping has me triggered.

    One time all the gates were powered and I was hooked (first hook by the way). This STUPID Meg crouched and wouldn’t unhook me when it was a FREDDY who was camping. I went into the struggle phase and she FINALLY unhooked me and I made a run for the gate. Long story short I was downed and I died.

    Fellow survivors, if all the gates are powered and you know Freddy does not have NOED and your teammate is on the hook...do not crouch and wait for Freddy to leave. Freddy is not the killer for camping and they can make a break for the exit gate.

    Most people don't know about a camping Freddy and how to deal with him, if the person in the dream world or he's already started the transition they'll get downed too.

  • @PureHostility said:

    @Dreamnomad said:

    @PureHostility said:

    You will see that survivors have much higher BP per hour potential, especially nowadays, with MASSIVE lobby times for killers.

    Except that wasn't remotely the case. I played roughly an hour and a half for each.

    I don't believe you, not at all, considering right now, I waited 8 minutes for a single game as a killer.
    Meanwhile, I could do 2 quick suicide runs as a survivor, getting plenty of BPs and actually WAY more shards in that time. (there is a reason why survivor mains have higher account levels than killer mains).

    I get into matches with no issues at rank 3 and killers at those ranks aren't complaining about queue times either and in fact get into them pretty quickly. The only time it's a long wait for either side is between 3 am PST and 5 am PSt.

    This is on NA PC btw and I've gotten people who i know are in other regions sometimes connecting.

  • @yeet said:

    @Killmaster said:
    I have more of a problem with bubbas movement speed while revving his chainsaw, billy is at-least counter-able by doing 360s and loops, maybe a 90% movement speed while revving would keep him from just walking behind you then reving for an instadown vs a regular hit.

    Killmaster back at it again with another moronic post where he doesn't know what he's talking about
    leatherface is garbage

    Had 1 at rank 3 I'd put in the new map offering he went with the faster movement sped on chainsaw he got us all after long match. But overall he's bad against really good loopers and such on most maps.

  • @scerckan said:
    i got the perfect solution.... git gud

    Use this next time instead it's much more subtle.

  • Getting the Adept Myers either one is a royal pain.

  • It's because people are pretty passionate about the game and then of course you get the ones on either side that like to do nothing but start flame wars. Most of the arguing/insulting is done in good nature although you know it's crossed the line when it gets to children, mom, ######### etc insults.

  • @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @powerbats said:

    @DeadByFlashlight said:

    Yes but since I play spirit, I do know how it will end.
    And pls, dont tell me that the survivors take the flashlight to counter hag that nobody plays :wink:

    Prior to this patch hag was one of the top played killers, especially at ranks 1-5 so flashlights were a pretty common sight. After this patch there's still Hag although way more Wraiths now so still Flashlights get a lot of use.

    I have not seen a single hag since the patch yet. And I paly a lot atm due to double BP.
    2 wraiths so far I believe.

    Dont fool yourself, you know why survivors bring those flashlights

    Since patch came out i've had 15 or so hags, 20-30 Wraiths, 15-20 billy's less than 15 Nurses, 20 or so Trappers, 3 Bubba's, 15 or so Rins, 1 Doctor, 6 or so Clowns etc.

    The only one fooling themself here is you, perhaps if you got to the rank 1-5 range you'd see that flashlights both before and after the patch are still being brought to face the usual killers.

    No one is magically after 2 + years just now bringing flashlights into their matches just because there's a new killer out that has a bug.

    For killer main backup I'll ask some people who've been here for 2+ years or so who'll tell you the same thing.

    @Orion @SovererignKing @Jack11803 @Master @fcc2014

  • @DeadByFlashlight said:

    Yes but since I play spirit, I do know how it will end.
    And pls, dont tell me that the survivors take the flashlight to counter hag that nobody plays :wink:

    Prior to this patch hag was one of the top played killers, especially at ranks 1-5 so flashlights were a pretty common sight. After this patch there's still Hag although way more Wraiths now so still Flashlights get a lot of use.

  • @RSB said:

    @blue4zion said:
    Been playing her around rank 1-5 and having a blast. I think she just takes more practice. She is easy to avoid with good headphones, however. It's also a bit confusing when the survivors make weird turns/backtrack on their previous scratchmarks. But if you can hear, it's easy to stay on them.

    I love zooming around the map with 2 movement speed addons

    UE and IW - the Spirit cries in a corner, tested as a survivor. Add to it DwM and Lithe, she won't even hit you.

    It depends on her addons, my friend and I tested it out in kyf and if she has the right perks even with the ultimate stealth build she can get you. It really all depends on the player with her.

  • @Peanits said:
    Heyo.

    So the thing about this is that because it's currently free to play, Steam thinks "Hey, this guy owns this game." And because Steam thinks "This guy owns this game," you can't gift it to them. This is an issue that's been around for quite a while now. You used to be able to just send it via email and have them accept it after the free weekend, but it seems like that option is gone now.

    Here's what you can try:

    • Have you friend click their username in the top right corner of Steam.
    • Go to "Account Details"
    • Under the Store & Purchase History section, click "View licenses and product key activations"
    • At the top of this list, you should see something along the lines of "Dead by Daylight Free Weekend - Sep 2018"
    • Click the 'Remove' button next to that entry.

    This should remove the free weekend access from their account and make Steam think "This guy does not own that".

    Before you do this, make sure you are able to gift the game to them. Steam has some weird rules about who can gift stuff to who based on regions and pricing. I, for example, as a Canadian sometimes have trouble gifting games to an American friend due to different currencies. If you guys are in the same country, you shouldn't have any issue. If not, double check first, or else they might end up with no free weekend and no game.

    One thing to add to this is the account must be at least level 2 to receive a gift and be older than say 2 hours as an example to combat hackers.

    Here's the link to the Steam page with all the info questions you could have about gifting.

    https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6262-QXCN-0755&l=english

  • @TheDarkLycan said:

    Oh no their using items made for the game.....dodge. it's silly. It would be like survivors DCing immediately when a match starts because the killer burnt a secret offering that MIGHT have been a mori. 

    Why comment if you're just gonna be a condecending douche bag?

    I actually got a laugh out of it and if you;d take a step back and look at it from a sarcastic angle you'd get a laugh too. He also does have a point given all the killer main posters saying similar stuff and not getting the same response.

  • 1st Match after event started P3 Wraith and that doesn't include his flamefest at the start either all because i wouldn't give him an easy basement kill.

  • @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @TheDarkLycan said:
    Anyone been quiting lobbies when seeing a flashlight since the flashlight bug is a thing? I spent 30 minutes just to find a lobby without a 4 man flashlight squad

    Flashlight = dodge

    Exploit bugs in other games pls, but not in my lobby

    So because people don't know who the killer is and with all the Hags pre patch and Wraiths post patch it's an exploit t bring it. Again not knowing who the killer is you can't call it an exploit for bringing said flashlight since it could be a Billy/Nurse.

  • I'm just sad my kobe's including my 1 or 2 basement kobe's with no slipper meant/luck offerings don't get counted lol

  • @Sandbagger69 said:

    clueless.

    I hate to beat @DocOctober to the punch here but I'm off to make dinner so.

    But in all seriousness you just need to get better on those spots since as has been stated unless balanced landing the killer will almost always get you. That or mind game you and nail you, throw in a nurse and she'll laugh at you.

  • @SnakeSound222 said:
    Are any of the Survivors running Deliverance?

    This and there's luck offerings and Slippery Meat Perk.

  • @Grey87 said:
    In 53 minutes.

    Well that's certainly going to be SOON ™ ©

    All rights reserved to not_Queen owner of SOON ™ ©

    Apologies to the CM named above didn't mean to tag her with that.

  • Good afternoon, forgot to post this am, weather hot and muggy here after being cloudy and cool.

  • The problem is that killers always say play stealthy, survivors play stealthy killers bring spies from the shadows and or whispers. I'd love for their to be stuff randomly scattered around but then if it's going to be a stealthy style gameplay killers need to lose those 2 perks.

    But then they turn around with the usual well I need those to find stealthy immersed players.

  • I've been wondering myself if there's something buggy or not as well or the breakdown is more clear than before which makes it look buggy.

  • @Dudddd said:
    How do we demote current mods? xD

    You delete your forum account, that way you never see them posting again. 😜

  • @Someissues said:

    @powerbats said:
    I understand the sound bug but despite that the people cleaning house are still doing good and best way is mind gaming to her fullest.

    The thing is, with the bug in place, you can't really mind games with her, it should be like this
    "Survivors do not hear any audio-cues of her Phase Walk within 24 metres of her Husk"

    as of now they do hear her, meaning her mind game's potential is ruined

    That I agree with and I've been mind gaming pretty well with her same for those at 1-5, not doing something expected etc.

  • I'm the same as @SovererignKing in that i don't like to be toxic to the other side and just roll with it. I almost always give the last person the hatch. That is unless they turned out to be the one tea bagging me all match then they get the hook.

  • @Someissues said:

    @powerbats said:
    Alternate possibility and one that has been in action is perhaps people are playing against good ranked players and not using above green addons. At rank 1-5 killers with ehr are getting 3-4k pretty regularly and no ti's not because they're bad so don't use that excuse.

    Some of the killers doing well with ehr are longtime Wraith and other lower tier killers. So perhaps it's that they know how to get the most out of her compared to others.

    Devs confirmed her sound is bugged atm and can be heard map wide, meaning atm it's not possible to mind game with her ability, because when she charges her power to enter phase, there's a big whoosh sound

    Survivors who still jump back to the Killers in pellets are just bad and should wait for this sound. This sound indicates whenever she is in phase mode, and its bugged and will be fixed, meaning she's even weaker.

    As you said it's been 2 days, survivors are not used to her, once they figured out like the ones on PTB she can be easily countered by Urban evasion, lightweight and good exp survivors

    I understand the sound bug but despite that the people cleaning house are still doing good and best way is mind gaming to her fullest.

  • @Someissues said:

    @powerbats said:
    Yeah I had a good laugh as well, killer out barely a day = trash spam posts.

    Killer out barely 2 days = worst killer in game = posts.
    I'm waiting for the new survivor perks are op and need to be nerfed into the ground still.

    She was exactly the same as in PTB, meaning she has been out near 3 weeks+, she's now worst than PTB since there's now a sound indicator when she fully charges her power (Whoosh)

    a 20 seconds cooldown that required a very high skill cap yet it's not as rewarding as the Nurse, imagine if Billy/ Nurses had cooldown on their abilities too

    People who have been stomping with her have not face good survivors yet, either they are low rank or they are constantly using high tier add-ons. as she is low tier without add-ons, mid tier with add-ons

    A killer should not rely on add-ons to be good

    Alternate possibility and one that has been in action is perhaps people are playing against good ranked players and not using above green addons. At rank 1-5 killers with ehr are getting 3-4k pretty regularly and no ti's not because they're bad so don't use that excuse.

    Some of the killers doing well with ehr are longtime Wraith and other lower tier killers. So perhaps it's that they know how to get the most out of her compared to others.

  • Well now Huntresses know how survivors felt when a hatch that was high and wide right still hit you in the left arm.It does need to be fixed so it's balanced all around finally.

  • I just wish you could go upstairs and they'd have the broken furniture and perhaps even a skeleton on the floor or something from the lore.

    There's just so much they could do with the upstairs that's wasted right now right and may'be they'll change that for a Halloween event. May'be a certain community manager cough @not_Queen cough could pass that idea along. 😉

  • @chemical_reject said:
    powerbats said:

    @chemical_reject said:

    Lmao I do not want to be a mod. :p 

    The spam threads call out to you, BAN US !!!!!! 😁

    I wouldn't ban u. For the most part ur content is decent and relevant....... for the most part :p

    TOUCHE good sir.

  • @Tzeentchling9 said:
    Only if the decoy turns into a log from a puff of smoke when hit.

    Shadow Clone jutsu perk?

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