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@asanandic said:
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Are you perhaps newer to the game? The flashlight blind at the pallet has been a thing since the beginning I do believe. If it was a bug, they would have fixed it by now. Ways to work around being blinded at the pallet is following off of sound (movement and pain noises) or holding still.yes I am very new to the game... I do believe Flashlight Blind at pallets is not the ultimate game breaker... just wanted to point out it is an issue because it forces a situation on you where there is nothing you can do.
My only objection is I am already not looking into the lens. Any blind right after the break is fair and square
I believe if you run the Billy perk, it'll counter the flashlights at the pallet if I'm remembering correctly. Regardless, you aren't looking completely at the ground and it's possibly to blind even when you're looking down. The nurse can get blinded, too, while she's fatigued.
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@TigerKirby215 said:
"you tunneled me all [BAD WORD] game [BAD WORD]" - Survivor with Decisive Strike who Self Cares under a hook when they're unhooked, fail a skill check, and then continues Self Caring1000 IQ plays
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I'm helping it stay alive!
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I think you need to explain what you did better. Were there multiple survivors or just one? Were you playing a public match? Were you dribbling them instead of hooking?
In that scenario, they may actually be able to sneak away and do a gen. If they were the last one with five/four gens left, that's cruel, though, if they just want to get out and are unable to get away for long enough to do anything with the gens.
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Are you perhaps newer to the game? The flashlight blind at the pallet has been a thing since the beginning I do believe. If it was a bug, they would have fixed it by now. Ways to work around being blinded at the pallet is following off of sound (movement and pain noises) or holding still.
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@Vortexas said:
Look at all the Brutal Serial Murderers it's contained.It's inadvertently creating good by having these sick games. Never even thought of it.
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Not sure if I like this too much. I run bond instead of self care and now I'm not always finding people 'cause they're jumping in lockers for whatever reason. Additionally can't tell if someone's afking in a locker anymore. Probably going to see more of that as people are likely not to notice and they'll feel they can get away with it.
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Probably better to try on Killer. Everything that gains extra bloodpoints (WGLF and No One Left Behind) for survivors is massively situational and you won't get nearly as many points on survivor as you would on killer, even for failed games. Someone could easily get to the hook before you and if you farm your team, you're probably not gonna live long.
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The idea is interesting, but I believe the offerings are there to encourage you to play those characters. Possibly.
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I still personally really like the idea of all the survivors within a swf not being able to take in the same perks and keeping the end screen info secret until everyone escapes or is dead.
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@se05239 said:
I'd imagine there's a small subsection of players who only play a few games a month, constantly staying above 15. Nothing like wrecking beginners to feel good about yourself, eh?I personally find it more fun to have a challenge. XD I don't get some people.
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@Milo said:
fluffybunny said:It's weird when someone with a lot of skill and a lot of hours magically end up never leaving rank 20.
I know someone who admitted they cheated to achieve that. Is there any way to detect such things?
Do they have all perks? Like 4 perks lvl 3?
Also this couls be so called smurf account.Yeah, they do. They had all the perks and good items. I dunno, I just know some people cheat in items, too, and was just wondering if there was a way to counter both as it ruins it for people who are playing the game legit, you know?
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
In case you didn't notice.Yeah, I noticed! Yay!!
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@Orion said:
@fluffybunny said:
A lot of times it isn't about playing the game "normally," but playing a social game with friends. I honestly die more with friends 'cause i'm talking or not as focused, listening to others. Or we do silly mini games cause we're bored.And Killers dodge not because they're "scared", but because they want to have fun, and SWF are unfun more often than not.
Never said they were scared? I can understand how it's annoying, especially when survivors group together to troll the killer by all having OP survivor items and such. It also means for a different strat with how you play and stuff. Not everyone is toxic, though, and not everyone's even good, really.
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@Mrrgle_the_Mediocre said:
I'm a mix. I go back and forth. My pfp gives away my Killer main, but as a Survivor I play Punk Rock Hagrid, Adam, and Quentin.It's good to have a mix. c: Can help with how you play and it's better for all around understanding~
@Delfador said:
I am a survivor main too.Claudette and Meg main, currently I am trying to get my feng and kate up there. I always wondered where survivor mains were LUL.
Recently I am playing a lot of huntress and clown though.
Same! That's why I made the post, hehe. Kate's my main and I still need to get feng. Been on the fence on if I should just buy the killer and the survivor or just the survivor with shards. There's so many neat outfits. w Kinda wanna save up for those.
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@jobasco said:
Stinky survivor main here
Hello! We need baths.
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I don't usually watch movies, but I love horror games. They're interesting. It's true, though. A lot of the lack of fear comes from either the killer being connected to another player or calling/tunneling being rather weak and that takes away from their spook factor.Tsulan said:
Horror movies must be boring for you.fluffybunny said:
A lot of that lack of fear comes from knowing you're a person with feelings and desires. Become a robot.Attackfrog said:If survivors were actually scared to be around the killers.
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I mean, I still play with them and like them cause they're my friends, but geez xDHeroLives said:
Ahahaha I accidentally threw a pallet on a few of my friends bc I didn’t see they were right behind me.fluffybunny said:Or they panic and throw the pallet on you, getting you downed 'cause they thought they were gonna get hit. Smh -
I don't usually watch movies, but I love horror games. They're interesting. It's true, though. A lot of the lack of fear comes from either the killer being connected to another player or calling/tunneling being rather weak that takes away from their spook factor.Tsulan said:
Horror movies must be boring for you.fluffybunny said:
A lot of that lack of fear comes from knowing you're a person with feelings and desires. Become a robot.Attackfrog said:If survivors were actually scared to be around the killers.
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Holding someone hostage is against the game rules. If you're putting them into a situation where they have to dc, that would count.
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I heard someone call it an honor code of sorts. Killers don't camp and use NOED and survivors don't do stupid strong window loops every chance they get and run ds. I think bming would also be part of that, like teabagging at pallets and such. I think it's up to the person and I personally avoid getting downed to the best of my ability until the end. If you're first on hook, nothing's to discourage the killer from camping and if you're solo, no one may come until you're second stage anyway.Crizpen said:@tennmio said:
RoKrueger said:We killers don't play by the survivors made up rules, we just kill and don't mind what the pray has to say. Kill them, KILL THEM ALL >_<
We are all ppl that are trying to have fun while they don't have to work.
Fairplay is s.th that exists since we invented games and competition it's not s.th "made up by survivors". Fairplay is common sense.
Actually, common sense would be to play by and respect the rules established by the game itself; that's fair play. Outside of that, the "rules" regarding what killers should and should not do were established by survivors who didn't want to compete only by the rules laid down in the game.
That isn't to say I don't understand how frustrating it can be to face a killer who camps or tunnels needlessly. I've faced my fair share of them as well, and I get why it can be so infuriating, but that isn't the same thing as the killer not playing fair, or according to the actual rules.
The original purpose of this thread was to demonstrate how killers are routinely falsely attacked in chat and on these boards for not following what survivors believe the rules ought to be. Likely because some survivors can't handle being killed, even when they live long enough to pip and get a lot of points. And further, if that's the case, there's absolutely no reason for killers to try play to their own disadvantage in order to accommodate survivors.
It's a sword that cuts both ways: if survivors want killers to play by and accept their "rules" for how killers should play, they have to respect killers and not insult them in chat and on these boards when the killer does try to play by those rules. And, even if the killer doesn't, comments like the one originally posted are completely out of line.
Yes, it is a commentary on how toxic and salty many members of the DBD community are, and no, I don't believe this thread or a thousand more like it will change that. However, survivors who are concerned about killers playing by their rules for what the killer should and should not do, ought to be calling out their teammates who engage in that behavior.
The reason for it is very simple, and I'll use the original post as an example. If I were infuriated and angry about what that survivor said to me post-match, there isn't much I can do to retaliate against that survivor, unless they happen to land in my lobby again. I can, however, say "f their rules," and take out my frustration on the next group of survivors. Maybe I'd finally try out that insidious Leatherface build to find some catharsis.
Obviously, answering toxicity with toxicity isn't the answer, but I have no doubt it's very often the result. It isn't exactly fair to the next lobby of survivors, but I find little reasons for empathy when none is displayed on the other side of the fence. So, if you want fewer toxic killers, push your fellow survivors to be less toxic as well.
Even with that said, by being toxic to people who aren't toxic to you, you're justifying them being toxic or you're creating toxicity. Being toxic towards people who didn't do anything to you are just going to annoy them and going to possibly create an us versus them scenario. We shouldn't be tearing each other down. We're playing a game together, just different roles. So, it should be fun for everyone, killer and survivor. -
The newer players struggle with it. I remember some games where nothing got done thanks to ruin. Heck, some of the higher ranks stuck at ruin, too. Skill checks are hard, man. Also boring. We're don't want to make this generator by daylight. That's the most boring part.DwightsLifeMatters said:I mean, it's not like if you miss every ruin great skillcheck the gen will never get done. It's just delaying a bit. Huntress lullaby isn't even that strong if you pay attention. Why are these perks hex totems again? I kinda missed the explaination of that -
A lot of that lack of fear comes from knowing you're a person with feelings and desires. Become a robot.Attackfrog said:If survivors were actually scared to be around the killers.
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1. The gens are the way they are because of camping. People complained about a killer camping and basically getting away with it cause their teammates didn't have enough time. From what I've heard, at least. It'd be awesome if survivors got more complex tasks, though. Gens can get boring.Poweas said:- Genrushing nerfed so gens take 120 seconds, 2 survivors take 80 seconds (knocking off 40 each time except for 4 survivors), 3 takes 40 seconds and for 4 survivors, gens take 20 seconds. That's it.
- NOED removed.
- D strike reworked to be a completely different and balanced perk.
- Lithe makes vaulting 30% faster.
- Killer vaulting is made slightly faster.
- Spirit is given a 12 seconds cooldown on base.
- Hag is given a 60m trapping teleport distance and her range addons are reworked to make her traps less visible.
- Huntress has a faster base windup and less cooldown between throws.
- Myers is given 20% faster stalking, no cap to stalking, he can stalk if ur in his LOS not the 40m it is right now and he is given a 20 seconds longer EW3. Yes I want him to be 2nd best killer.
- All other killers are buffed a lot.
- Solo survivor gets a built in kindred and a built in bond. Kindred is removed and bond is reworked completely.
- Brutal strength increases your pallet breaking speed by 20/30/40%.
- Botany knowledge values are increased to 30/40/40%.
- Killer and survivor mains get along (I'm neutral again.)
2. either tweaked or as is. You can work around it.
3. agreed, it shouldn't be a free escape one caught
11. That'd be nice for solo players
14. Yeah ^^ Everyone should try both sides and play both imo -
Since I sent my laptop to very repaired, I've been outside The Fog since before Christmas. ;-; Soon I'll be back.
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I think there's an achievement and you get more points. I only take it when last and don't mind if someone else wants it.Dokta_Carter said:I found a hatch and showed the other survivor wherw it was we healed each other. I decided hey let me do the right thing and give it to em?
I mean that one helped me fix three gens, i understand when their potatos but i cant count how many times another survivor offered up another just for a hatch -
If they have unbreakable and happened to be one of the last, or would screw them.DwightsLifeMatters said:Just a QoL idea to save time. Would only trigger if no hatch spawned cuz It's a real time waste if you lose the slug and there is no hatch spawned anyway. To workaround unbreakable I had in mind a timer before the deerstalker kicks in.
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What rank is your killer? Some people are awful, but not everyone. Keep your head up and you're bound to find nice opponents, too. From how they were treating you, I would guess you're 15-20 and they were smurfing, so looking for a baby killer. I'm sorry you had to experience that.MauXD24 said:So I got into a match I played as Legion cuz i wanted pretty much I got destroyed cause of a Feng Min with a sabo toolbox that litterally destroyed all the hook, a Claudette with a purple flashlight, a David with fireworks and another Claudette that bodyblocked me, technically I only hooked someone. After they escaped,they started throwing trash at me cuz I was a "Baby Killer" And that I should kill myself and uninstall the game, I can't believe they say that after all they've done, Im so done with this game and the community that just throws trash at you cuz "ur bad", im actually really thinking of throwing this game. I love the game but the game isn't fun anymore when they just make the game impossible for the killer to even hook people.
Also, a lot of these people are children. If they do anything really awful, you can report them I'm sure. Otherwise, just ignore them. They're looking for a reaction. As kids tend to do. -
Rule of 2s.KillerRaccoon said:What’s interesting to me, is that all of these campings (except The Legion’s) happened when there were exactly 2 generators left. -
Looks like you're hooked on Dead by Daylight! ;D You'll get some bad days and some good. Hopeful you got enough points. That's all that matters top me tbh.
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They mention Sony's policy because it's one of the platforms you can play it on, pretty sure.ChesterTheMolester said:
1. Im not a legal expert at all, especially poutinian law, as im a citizen of Germany.Kaelum said:@ChesterTheMolester said:
Can we talk about what classifies as "Hateful speech"? Its really vague and kinda sounds like you can be banned for a non existent emotion perceived by a third party.There is no ambiguity in the meaning of “hateful speech”. It is a legal term that in part refers to derogatory remarks related to religion, race, gender, sexual orientation, disabilities, and many others. In fact, your name in these forums could be construed as a violation, so I’m not really surprised that you are asking this.
@Peanits @not_Queen does his name violate the rules of these forums, and/or of the game itself? I know for a fact that it violates Sony’s rules, if he is on PSN.
I had no idea if it was a legal term or company specific.
2. I've been around here for quite a while and got reactions from every mod and dev that has been seen more than once, if it was i think someone would have done something about it, especially before i became on of this forum's classics.
3. Why should i frankly care about Sony's company policy here? They are not even the same company or related and are on a completely different continent. Their rules are most likely based on local sensitivities so i don't give an honest ######### as long im not using their services, which i don't when im here. -
A lot of times it isn't about playing the game "normally," but playing a social game with friends. I honestly die more with friends 'cause i'm talking or not as focused, listening to others. Or we do silly mini games cause we're bored.Orion said:Why are SWF afraid of playing the game normally? This goes both ways.
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I don't know what it is for killer, but if a survivor goes and points at a hook, it generally means they don't wanna farm if they do it at death hook.George_Soros said:It's a nice gesture, but many of us prefers being hooked right quick and move on to the next game. I wish there was some way to communicate "I'M NOT GONNA FARM", maybe with the exception of double BP events.
Also, I wish instant hook suicides could be punished the same as ragequits, though I'm at a loss as how to do that.
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Yeah, some don't like to waste time. Wanna get to the next game. Sucks if you plays a bps or had a nice item.Luc_ius said:I met an awesome Pig like this. 3 survivors intentionally DCed so I came right to the pig and we farmed. So if you're reading this, awesome Pig, thank you !
Once I connected alone as 3 others DCed already during loadout. The Hag didn't show any mercy and killed me immediately lol.
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XD You can show mercy. It isn't necessarily going out of character, I'd think, and it makes great fanfics hehe. Sits a different kind of moodRoKrueger said:Those kind of killers MAKE ME SICK. You must never show mercy NEVER. You are here to kill, the survivors are not your friends, they are prey.
I mean, it totally "kills" the mood
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Tbh half the time I go for the save because I use We'll Make It and actually do safe saves and the other half it's cause I notice no one else is going for it. I mention safely saving cause a lot of times others don't seem to
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SWF and coordinated survivors are strong, though they're has been some tweaks and nerfs to survivors and buffs to killer top even out the field a little. You have to remember that survivors have to deal with other players who may be their friends, but if they're random or just bad, may screw them over them.TheWraith883 said:Survivors are really overpowered and I don't know why they keep complaining that they are weak. I really found that the weakest players are killers and survivors really get the extra treat.
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I'm nice to people who are nice to me. You're playing with people at the end of the day.RoKrueger said:We killers don't play by the survivors made up rules, we just kill and don't mind what the pray has to say. Kill them, KILL THEM ALL >_< -
I'm wondering that, too. I would love a Kate profile pic.
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Or they panic and throw the pallet on you, getting you downed 'cause they thought they were gonna get hit. Smh
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It can be awesome when you click with complete strangers, though.thekiller490490 said:What is wrong with killer mains? I personally can't stand playing survivor. Relying on teammates sucks. And it can be a rush trying to run from the killer or run to help out an ally. I remember a game with infinite tier three Myers and it was a lot of fun trying to sneak around, so gens, and get people up. Are you a Billy main? I like Billy. He's fun to play.
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I changed it after the fact. I forgot that hate speech is protected technically. Doesn't mean people can't react to it and you can't face consequences because of it, but is a slippery slope when the government tries to limit what you say with stuff like that. Still, a company can legal hold people accountable for hate speech. We're on their platform.Tucking_Friggered said:@fluffybunny said:
There is still hate speech... freedom of speech doesn't protect that.No, sorry, there is no hate speech and the freedom of speech trumps any attack on it. People are free to label any speech they choose anything they choose to but there is no legal protection from it.
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Freedom of speech doesn't erase hate speech. It's protected by law, but companies can still react to it as they may. It just means you can't get censored by the government, I believe.Tucking_Friggered said:@Kaelum said:
@ChesterTheMolester said:
Can we talk about what classifies as "Hateful speech"? Its really vague and kinda sounds like you can be banned for a non existent emotion perceived by a third party.There is no ambiguity in the meaning of “hateful speech”. It is a legal term that in part refers to derogatory remarks related to religion, race, gender, sexual orientation, disabilities, and many others. In fact, your name in these forums could be construed as a violation, so I’m not really surprised that you are asking this.
@Peanits @not_Queen does his name violate the rules of these forums, and/or of the game itself? I know for a fact that it violates Sony’s rules, if he is on PSN.
That depends on what country you live in. In the USA there is no hate speech as we have the freedom of speech and can say anything, regardless of offense taken as long as life and limb are not in imminent danger for doing so. Do not yell bomb on a plane, do not yell fire in a crowded theatre are examples but yelling for a mob to kill a criminal isn't nor is calling for violent revolution against the government.
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They want you to play for Susie.Thatbrownmonster said:
Just a skin for Susie that would be linked to the dlc
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It could also be attached to hooks. When you hook someone, a loot bag of sorts is attached and you could choose one to leave with.Iceman said:The last thing I want to do when playing killer is giving survivors more time to complete their objectives. -
He isn't the weakest. If he chases you down, you're going down. There's little you can do. He's pretty good at one on one. He's actually a lot better than Freddy as he can counter loops and his ability slows down the survivors AND showed where they are. I don't know why so many think he's awful. Sure, he needs a buff, but if did incorrectly, he's gonna be a braindead nurse.Tsulan said:So you are scared that buffing the weakest killer would turn him into a top tier killer?
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When they say hateful speech, I believe they mean cursing someone out or calling them rude names. It's probably too keep discourse civil.ChesterTheMolester said:https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system#latest
First off, can we disable the profanity filter? Im german and we don't censor profanity so its kinda triggering. Its ultimately pointless too as everyone knows whats being said by context.
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Can we talk about what classifies as "Hateful speech"? Its really vague and kinda sounds like you can be banned for a non existent emotion perceived by a third party.
Also i hate DS and NOED, don't ban me pls.
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Are you forgetting this is a public forum? If a kid wanders into it, the censorship is for that. I don't believe there's any in game, though I never found the need to cuss at someone.ChesterTheMolester said:
Required by law? For foreign services?powerbats said:The profanity filter is there for the cultures that require it.
I think the parents in this case are a bit more problematic given what DBD is than some words they are going to pick up sooner rather than later... so [BAD WORD] em.powerbats said:
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In an ideal world, we would need to rework nurse. It isn't impossible to get away or to waste time with a nurse, but it is very difficult. She has a massive difficulty curve, too, so it's fair that she's the strongest. If we make her equal to other killers, we would also need to make her easier to learn and to play.