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Both answers are a NO.
Mate said that Shapes Tier 1 is meant to STALK instead of chase.
But they completely ignored the scratched mirror with that statement. -
@PhantomMask20763 said:
He's possibly one of the most balanced killers but yeah let's totally nerf what's not OP!!! Great idea, just like Freddy!!!..or Doc next patch. :P
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@Kwanghyun said:
No wonder that ass killer is in the current top 3.He is top 3?? I must have missed that memo… O.o
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@purebalance said:
Camping REALLY needs to be addressed with both an emblem and BP loss that is flashed on the screen. Do you think the campers actually read patch notes? No they don't. Flash that ######### on the screen and then make it their choice. -100 bp and -1% emblem every 3 seconds bright and visible on the screen.And to the people claiming camping is a strat, then I guess we should remove crows over players in one spot too long right? Hiding is the same as camping. It's annoying and serves no purpose other than to be bad.
Please tell me your being sarcastic and forgot the smilie for it.
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@Delfador said:
@Wolf74 said:
@Boss said:
Again, very simple: You wanna talk about the fun of winning and/or losing? Don't derail the discussion that's not talking about it.
This is the discussion.
Better watch out what questions you ask if you might not like the answer.
Weak killer that have a hard time killing someone are not "fun".
If that is "derailing" for you fine.
But how should it be fun to run around and achieve nothing, but a couple of hits..
As a killer I am enjoying chases that I can … guess what? drumroll ... WIN.I don't say I want an easy 4k every match (I just say that, because for sure some idiot will come and claim that), but "fun" is about achieving something. Down some people, hook some people, kill some people.
Hit and run would be fine -I play like that with Doc and Hag all the time- but it has to be meaningful to do so to be "fun".He specifically said that if you don't have fun because you can't get 4k or win, he is not interested in what you have to say.
If he didn't mention it, you would be right but I don't see any reason to discuss about it. You should understand his reason too because it is obvious that you don't have fun when you lose over and over again. Most probably he wants other reasons for why people find the legion fun or boring.
And here we go, the first one talking about a 4k.^^
I would give a well earned LOL, but the button is gone.
Nice attitude, "I don't like the answer, stop talking to me". overandout
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Haddonfield
Lery's
Red Forest
Springwood
Meat Plant
Yamaoka Estate
6 realms with only 1 map. 3 are licenced and unlikely to happen soon. And LERYS is the oldest.
So pretty easy answer: Lerys!Beside, Clown needs a map of his own.
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@Boss said:
Again, very simple: You wanna talk about the fun of winning and/or losing? Don't derail the discussion that's not talking about it.
This is the discussion.
Better watch out what questions you ask if you might not like the answer.
Weak killer that have a hard time killing someone are not "fun".
If that is "derailing" for you fine.
But how should it be fun to run around and achieve nothing, but a couple of hits..
As a killer I am enjoying chases that I can … guess what? drumroll ... WIN.I don't say I want an easy 4k every match (I just say that, because for sure some idiot will come and claim that), but "fun" is about achieving something. Down some people, hook some people, kill some people.
Hit and run would be fine -I play like that with Doc and Hag all the time- but it has to be meaningful to do so to be "fun". -
@Boss said:
Very easy: By changing the subject.
If people want to talk about the fun of Legion on winning/losing, this simply isn't the discussion for them.
If you want to address the elephant, make your own discussion.Tell me again… how is losing in a competitive game "fun"?
For real, 4 toxic survivor tbagging at the gate… but you had "fun" chasing them around?
Killer playing pig-in-the-middle and ring-around-the-rosie is "fun"?
If the survivor get cocky, because they know you can't kill them is "fun"? -
@Boss said:
I literally tried to get people to not bring up the fun aspect of winning/losing.
How do you want to keep that out?
It's like an elephant in the room. -
Devs have a strange concept about "taking feedback", when 10 people make the same good suggestion and 1 is making a really obvious bad one, the Devs tend to take the bad one.
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Or just imagine the killer could pick a perk that would actually be like DS.
Let us call it "decisive attack".
"2/3/4 survivor start the match exposed. This status is removed after they got downed once."How would you like that?
DS makes a 2 hit chase a 3 hit chase, this perk would make a 2 hit chase a 1 hit chase.
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Wolf74 said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Sigh, holding M1 even longer? No thanks.
Bring solo and swf closer together and finally introduce a second objective. Done. Balance fixed.
Do you want a 2nd objective that is optional?
Because that wouldn't fix anything.
The survivor objective is doable to fast compared to the time it takes for the killer objective to do.
I never said it's optional, obviously the second objective has to be done before repairing gens (finding oil or something else and bringing it to a gen). Come on lad, use ur brain.
Dude, here in the forum I rather ask, because most people suggest stuff without using their brains.
So I better make sure we are on the same page. :P -
@NightmareReborn said:
Personally, I could see pros and cons to either side. I just wanna hear what you guys think.All killer content should be free.
Why should anybody pay to be the entertainer for their true costumer? -
@The_Crusader said:
Wolf74 said:@The_Crusader said:
Well if you want to go down that route...
In most horror movies the killer chases their victim. They don't just sit around waiting.
Really? Jason want to have a talk to you…
It's called "baiting".
Then go play Friday 13th
Freddy and Michael chase a lot.
Have you ever seen them doing the Benny Hill show?
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@Larcz said:
Vorg said:I would say reduce the Stun time to killer from DS that fair enough...
By the devs logic use perk Enduring from billy.
Check this out:
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@The_Crusader said:
Well if you want to go down that route...
In most horror movies the killer chases their victim. They don't just sit around waiting.
Really? Jason want to have a talk to you…
It's called "baiting".
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@Boss said:
@Wolf74 said:
@Boss said:
@Bravo0413 said:
I'm pretty sure that the gens used to take 2mins to complete... they reduced the time because camping had 0 counter back then.... also like everyone else is saying.... survivors need more to do... sabo can only do so much and gen sim is already boring enough.... the only fun time survivors have is being chased..Hmm, i can only find an INcrease in gen time, from 70 to 80 seconds.
https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/PatchesAnd they removed the 3 oclock skillchecks, because they had been to hard and buffed toolboxes to "compensate".
I actually like those now since the current SCs are a joke to me.
Might as well remove the Skill part, they're just Checks.You confused me... why do you bring up SELF CARE?^^
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@Boss said:
@Bravo0413 said:
I'm pretty sure that the gens used to take 2mins to complete... they reduced the time because camping had 0 counter back then.... also like everyone else is saying.... survivors need more to do... sabo can only do so much and gen sim is already boring enough.... the only fun time survivors have is being chased..Hmm, i can only find an INcrease in gen time, from 70 to 80 seconds.
https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/PatchesAnd they removed the 3 oclock skillchecks, because they had been to hard and buffed toolboxes to "compensate".
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@EntityDispleased said:
And stop survivors from doing actions while transitioning. That way he won't get skill checks blown up in his face or have his ruin cleansed while he just stands there.My suggestion was:
1. Make the dream demon ability an interrupt, so that survivor lose their progress.
2. Give them a 25% actionspeed debuff during dreamtransition
3. Slightly reduce the chance to get skillchecks in the dreamworld (stacks with add ons)
4. Additional slight reduction to get skillchecks in the dreamworld from healing (you do not hurt yourself intentionally) -
@Bravo0413 said:
I'm pretty sure that the gens used to take 2mins to complete...Erm… let's say… I doubt that statement...
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Sigh, holding M1 even longer? No thanks.
Bring solo and swf closer together and finally introduce a second objective. Done. Balance fixed.Do you want a 2nd objective that is optional?
Because that wouldn't fix anything.
The survivor objective is doable to fast compared to the time it takes for the killer objective to do. -
@tt_ivi_99 said:
MhhBurgers said:I think survivors unhooking others should not be grab-able and hitting them with stuff like a chainsaw should put them in deep-wound status since killers even after all these nerfs will still be totally OP it shouldn't hurt them at all.
You can't be serious.
I get why you want that, its disgusting to find a face camper but with the new Borrowed Time its enough.
People would just abuse that and start unhooking survivors right in face of the killer.
Baited.
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
Wolf74 said:@JanTheMan said:
I guess that turned into Hex: Haunted Grounds.
Sadly I think the same.
The Devs did not dare to be "so harsh" on survivor and touch their precious meta perks.
Survivor would cry havoc when killer would be able to shut down their perks.
Of course the idea of shutting down the other sides perk is perfectly fine if it comes to Hex perks, right? :sarcastic:
Nah, because that'd be just another bandaid.
Fix totems or rework the concept of removable perks from scratch.I only have 4 perk slots, its idiotic to waste a 2nd perk slot to protect another perk from broken mechanics and call that some kind of fix.
When Hexes came out, everyone protected Ruin by running Toth, but soon they realized it isn't worth it.
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@SenzuDuck said:
Wolf74 said:@SenzuDuck said:
Killers playing now have it so damned easy compared to last year.
Talking about the past, can I get back that huge hitboxes that felt like auto aim?
The times before 360 and juking even existed?
So nothing you have said refutes my point, as it’s clear you just want the game to be as easy as possible for those super cool 4Ks
the game is far far easier than it has ever been but you just keep wanting more.
This is basically just your false assumptions.
You won't find ANY statement from me supporting your claim.
Not about the 4k and not about the "ease of it".
This is just a perfect example of an ad hominem personal attack.You on the other hand just want easy survivor matches, but of course THAT is totally ok, right?
PS: Sorry for the "?", that's a rethorical question and I won't respond on an answer. overandout
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@JanTheMan said:
I guess that turned into Hex: Haunted Grounds.Sadly I think the same.
The Devs did not dare to be "so harsh" on survivor and touch their precious meta perks.
Survivor would cry havoc when killer would be able to shut down their perks.
Of course the idea of shutting down the other sides perk is perfectly fine if it comes to Hex perks, right? :sarcastic: -
@SenzuDuck said:
Killers playing now have it so damned easy compared to last year.
Talking about the past, can I get back that huge hitboxes that felt like auto aim?
The times before 360 and juking even existed? -
@MegMain98 said:
Mending should technically be considered a healing action honestly. Snapping out of it and waking up however are not healing actions so why should they reveal survivors auras? It may be a Doctor nerf but it’s not THAT big of a deal. Not every Doctor runs NC and if you can’t find a survivor with Doctor due them screaming the entire round then something is wrong. Main Doctor set up I see it Distressing, Unnerving Presence, Overcharge, and Ruin.I am basically maining Doc and I switch Ruin for NC.
Because Ruin can get destroyed anyway, NC not.
NC helps me to keep pressure on the survivor, because I can switch targets when I spot someone healing while I chase someone else.
I can also spot people that try to snap out and I just have to interrupt them, not even need to actually hit them, and keep them in ´madness 3 longer.
And screams are basically just random, while NC is precise and works in both modes; treatment and punishment.
Sure any survivor could just heal/snap out outside of my TR, but a) I am moving and b) at some point people just try, because they feel they can't escape my big TR anyway and hope I am either distracted or not close enough for NC.
It is not about "not being able to find someone", but find them over and over. This is basically the opposite of the hated "tunneling". This gave me a reason to let them get away during a chase and pick the chase up again later and instead pressure the map/gens. A playstyle that every survivor tells me to do.
NC has a unique synergy with Docs base kit, so it is only logical to use that.
Madness is a psychological illness/damage to your mind and snapping out of it is healing your soul/spirit/brain. So yes, it is "healing". -
@towhead said:
Wolf74 said:@towhead said:
just because a survivor farms another off a hook in front of a killer, it doesn't mean the killer must capitalize on the event. unless of course, they are desperate.
Are you serious?
You think that's how a killer should play?
Just watch the survivor make bad plays and let them get away with it?
So the survivor show no "fear"(respect?) of the killer and rescue right beside him and he should show "mercy" and let the rescued go to take on the much harder chase?
WHY?
Just to make survivor happy?
And in the end he will get tbagged at the gate and get an "gg ez baby killer" in the after match chat??
it's called sportsmanship but i suppose you love hooks dropping when you are about to hook someone. they play like that, then yes i'll drop all that but acting like a desperado garners no respect from me.Serious? "Sportsmanship", in a horror survival game that is based on slasher movies?
The evil incarnate, psycho, serial killer should act like a "good sportsman"? -
@The_Crusader said:
Escape rate is less than 50% = escape rate is too high.
Typical entitled killer mentality expecting a 4k every game.
Including all DCs, suicide on the hooks and of course all other mates left with a 3 or 2 vs 1 killer with 5 gens to go.
Not to mention all the "I rather die than leave someone behind" player.As long as survivor do not NEED to survive, those stats don't mean anything.
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@SenzuDuck said:
It's funny because almost every patch this year has had killer buffs in it, one minor change to a perk status and they start kicking up tantrums.
Killer will and always will be easy, while it isn't as easy as Survivor it's still not an arduous task to get kills and pip.
Here we go again… an entitled survivor main turning a blind eye on any killer nerf and survivor buff.
One buff to one side doesn't mean anything if there are 2 nerfs in the very same patch. -
FD and trap the dropped items.^^
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Baited.^^
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Are you joking?How should we know without a LOL button?
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@BeanieEnthusiast said:
@Wolf74 said:
They removed the downvotes and so the lol became the new downvote. :P+1 LOL
Awesome is the new LoL?
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They removed the downvotes and so the lol became the new downvote. :P
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Because switching targets is stupid.
Why should a killer go for the target that needs 2 hits to down, if there is one that only needs one?
Spreading out the hooks among the team is bad for the killer, since hooking once or twice doesn't mean anything.
But removing one survivor from the game is the best debuff you can achieve. Minus 25% effectiveness on the team.You call that stupid?
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@White_Owl said:
@TragicSolitude said:
@Wolf74 said:
@TragicSolitude said:
@Wolf74 said:
@ThirdSealOPplzNerf said:
@Wolf74 said:
My idea about Monstrous Shrine:
Add the effect that ALL survivor perks are disabled as long as they are in the basement.That would do nothing and be completely useless unless there in the basement which is the problem adding an affect when you're near the basement like mine would be much more useful.
Ask some survivor. They already called my suggestions totally OP.
No Plunderer.
No Adrenaline.
No Deliverance.
No Well make it.
No DH.
No BT.
Some people actually use the basement to hide while using SC.I love this idea
Also, I do not understand why so many survivors go in the basement to heal. I have caught numerous survivors doing that and it just seems crazy to me.
Because most killer don't check the basement. Why should they? If no scratchmarks or bloodtrails leading there it is wasted time.
When I play survivor I hide down there pretty often.Really? Wow. This makes me want to try out Territorial Imperative just to see what happens.
Territorial is a niche perk but it managed to make me paranoid since I was found by a killer running out. Being found when you think you're perfectly safe is traumatic
Yep, since a killer came running straight for me when I just ransacked the basement chest made me more cautious. But this happens once every 100 games.
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I still don't get, why "Jeff" isn't just a skin for David?
Beard, scar… that is just a lazy designed survivor. -
Maybe I buy him with shards… because, what else to do with them? :P
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I liked the old victory cube.
Killer should get judged by their ability to kill.
Survivor should get judged by their ability to survive.That would create real stats about killratios. and escaperates.
That would also show which killer are actually viable and can get the job done.
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Don't forget that the tier 3 version -which actually is the most important- got nerfed.
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@Claudette_Baguette said:
THE LEGION CHANGES:- Reduced The Legion Feral Frenzy Vault distance
To give The Legion a sense of speed when they vault, we had increased the distance coming out of the vault. Unfortunately, this meant that Survivors had a larger window to juke The Legion by going back through the same vault location. We have reduced the distance to tighten the gap and allow The Legion an opportunity to counter this.
- Removed the double stun effect when hitting Survivors affected by Deep Wound.
After hitting a Survivor affected by Deep Wound, The Legion will no longer play the weapon swipe animation. Instead, the attack will transition directly into the ‘fatigue’ state, before ending the power.
- Legion lunge distance increased
The Legion’s lunge was slightly too short compared to other Killers. It has been adjusted to match the standard speed curve off the base attack giving it a longer range.
DEEP WOUND STATUS CHANGES:
- Added a mending sound to Mend action
The sound for mending was missing during the PTB. Now you will hear a Survivor mending nearby.
- Added a progress reset to the Mend action
If a Survivor has made progress towards mending their Deep Wound status and is hit again by a Feral Frenzy attack, the progression will reset.
- The Deep Wound bleedout timer continues to progress during the Mend action
While not in a chase, the Deep Wound timer will tick down – even while using the Mend action. As long as The Survivor continues to mend, the timer will not progress past 99% and will not go into the dying state.
- Specific actions that are not considered ‘Healing’ actions, will no longer be affected by perks that refer to healing.
Mend, Snap out of it, and Wake up, are no longer considered healing actions, and as such, will not be affected by perks that refer to healing.
NOTE These changes will not be updated on the Player Test Build. They will, however, be available in the upcoming chapter release, Darkness Among Us. Let us know what you think!
What do you think about those changes? Source: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/33730/the-legion-changes#latest
The first 4 changes are basically FIXES.
The next are just minor or better said neglectable changes.
And the last is just hilarious, because it is just a nerf to a killer perk, that affects a mid tier killer (Doc) and 2 low tier killer (Freddy and Legion himself).
So along the "fixes" to make Legion better, they just push in a nerf to killer that don't deserve one., but keep the big buff to a survivor perk making it completely "unfun" for the killer.But we already know, "fun" is only important for survivor.
Killer should start learning to have fun playing some tag with the important player and enjoy their role as an entertainer. -
Typical situation, I repair the gen in the shack and someone gets chased and runs to the shack to loop it, I go downstairs and wait until they either leave or the other gets downed. So I either resume repair or hide in a locker to rescue when he gets hooked in the basement.
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@Alphaphalt said:
In my opinion, only Mending of the three should count as a healing action, I'd like to see more variety than every single doctor running Nurse's.Psychological illnesses need healing too.
So snap out is healing your spirit.Mending and snap out should be affected by all healing related perks; for good and bad.
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@TragicSolitude said:
@Wolf74 said:
@ThirdSealOPplzNerf said:
@Wolf74 said:
My idea about Monstrous Shrine:
Add the effect that ALL survivor perks are disabled as long as they are in the basement.That would do nothing and be completely useless unless there in the basement which is the problem adding an affect when you're near the basement like mine would be much more useful.
Ask some survivor. They already called my suggestions totally OP.
No Plunderer.
No Adrenaline.
No Deliverance.
No Well make it.
No DH.
No BT.
Some people actually use the basement to hide while using SC.I love this idea
Also, I do not understand why so many survivors go in the basement to heal. I have caught numerous survivors doing that and it just seems crazy to me.
Because most killer don't check the basement. Why should they? If no scratchmarks or bloodtrails leading there it is wasted time.
When I play survivor I hide down there pretty often. -
Yea, I have a lot of "whack hot box stories".
Tons of swings that should have been hits, but did not count anyway.
Crouching targets in front of me get missed.
Weapons hit the wall instead of the survivor.
All kinds of cheesy jukes that should not have worked, but did.
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@White_Owl said:
@Wolf74 said:
My idea about Monstrous Shrine:
Add the effect that ALL survivor perks are disabled as long as they are in the basement.That's a very nice idea
I would love to see the sad face of someone with Pharmacy not finding his medkit or the guy with Deliverance struggling and screaming, because he doesn't get free.^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EitZRLt2G3w