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If they're a hardcore Survivor main, they'd probably be upset how much weaker they are
If they're a hardcore Killer main, they'd probably have a much easier time than before. Considering the old Self Care meta and CoH is basically the same and thats pretty much the only real problematic perk for Survivors nowadays
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2816471#Comment_2816471
Here are my issues.
Her Condemned is very non-threatening. One stack PER teleport where the Survivor has to be within 16m of a TV is brutal when it has to be 7. If it were 2 per successful teleport and the Video Tape removed 3 stacks instead of 4. It's clearly meant as game-delay, but it just utterly fails to do so.
Her Teleport is also on way too long of a cooldown. It takes 100 seconds for a TV to turn back on after she teleports. Make it 30-45.
She needs a movement speed bonus while she's in her Ghost Mode. Nothing big, maybe 120-125%. That'll give her a better lunge so she has a BIT of anti-loop.
If she gets those changes, she's better to me.
Its one stack per teleport yes, but that adds up. Its not like a Survivor is gonna stay on the same gen the entire game. And its not like you can't interrupt a gen being worked on without the teleport.
Its not like you waste too much time doing other things, she has a some what similar play style to Hag where you don't really want to commit to chases, you want to scare Survivors off gens and have a sort of hit n run playstyle. You delay the game as long as possible for them to gain condemned and only pick off those caught in bad situations which isn't hard thanks to her stealth.
Her teleport being 100 seconds absolutely needs to be brought down, I knew it was long but didn't know it was that long until some one else mentioned it earlier
A movement speed bonus would be nice as well
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2816463#Comment_2816463
Why do you think she's good?
Because every little aspect of her kit compliments it self and theres just so much about her that many people don't realize. She's kind of a jack of all trades since she kind of has a little bit of everything. Another thing I quite like is you can use the same mindgame as you did with Old Freddy where you could trick Survivors thanks to his flickering, she has this as well which lasts for a few seconds (idk the exact number) after Manifesting and it gives you feedback on when it happens, allowing you to play around it.
I don't think she's the best killer, but she's FAR from being any where near the worst
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2816430#Comment_2816430
I disagree with Otz.
I think she's D-tier.
Better than Legion and Console Trickster.
I wouldn't jump to conclusions without playing her, I really don't think she's that bad but I might change my mind when she hits live
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@Carth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2816454#Comment_2816454
"No cooldown" is EXTREMELY disingenuous. You disable a tv for 100 seconds if you teleport to it....literally longer than it takes to do a gen solo.
And 60 seconds if they turn it off, which is less time than a gen and thats assuming you're just giving them the gen for free, she's similar to Hag in a way where she doesn't commit to chases. Only wittles down Survivors little by little until an opportunity shows it self for the right time to strike.
The only thing I have an issue with is her being HEAVILY reliant on regression perks, since the main strat almost requires them.
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@Carth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2816423#Comment_2816423
I am legit wondering if I am being baited here. How is a .5 second animation "wasted time", it's nothing. If we wanted to 'waste time' interacting with a tv would take 10 seconds minimum and so would re-inserting a tape. Condemned is a joke, you can erase 4 stacks at any point in time. Sadako punishes greed in what way? Being able to teleport != 'punishment'. You seem to think being able to go from point A to point B instantly is a big deal. If it were truly such a big deal demo would be considered one of the best killers in the game.
Its a .5 second animation to take out and insert the tape, how ever you are completely missing where the wasted time comes from and thats from having to go on the other side of the map just to get rid of your condemned. If you ignore it and the Sadako player knows how to play around this you are putting yourself at risk
Also, going from point A to point B really is a big deal especially when it can be accessible from literally ANY WHERE on the map with NO cooldown. I'm not saying she's the best killer, I'm saying she's much better than people realize.
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@Adaez said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2816430#Comment_2816430
Its also my argument since I agree with him.
Also of all the content creators I watched,all of them seems to say the game thing,she's weak.
CoconutRTS also shares the same view as I do and actually came up with a build which just emphasizes more on her strengths and gets rid of her weaknesses. Which just speeds up the process of Survivors either risking becoming condemned or leaving gens to get rid of condemned.
This play style still works without these add ons, its just you have to play more towards the mid/late game
EDIT: Forgot to link the video lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_p6Rx_x5V8
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oh the lord Otz has said the killer is C-tier? Must be true then
He focuses on condemned as if that's her sole goal to reach, it isn't. He also talks about how everything she does she's not great, the thing is every part of her compliments it self, theres risk in countering her map mobility and she can know where Survivors are for doing so, and her stealth makes it easy to catch Survivors off guard. If a Survivor plays really greedy then she punishes that HEAVILY. And there are some cases where some times being greedy is the correct play. Especially against her.
I have nothing against Otz, but this isn't your argument as to why she's bad, its his
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@Carth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2816408#Comment_2816408
Best map mobility in the game
you can't say this when survivors can literally hold M1 for .5 seconds and turn her mobility off. Imagine if you could interact with gas cans around the map and turn billys chainsaw off, or Blight serum, or any of the mobility killers. Mobility is worthless if you cannot use it to approach survivors and good survivors will always turn off the closest tv to the gen because 7 stacks of condemnation is hilarious to build up and 2.5 seconds of total animation time will get you the tape + put it into a new tv. The only limiter here is travel time at 4.0 M/S and a buildup rate of 1 condemnation stack per 30 seconds of holding a tape.
Want to explain to me the math of how you can build up condemnation/take advantage of her "best map mobility in game" vs a swf who turns off your tvs?
They turn off your TV's that wastes time, and doing so also reveals their location. And its not something as hard to track as say Plagues fountains where it can some times be a little hard to keep track which one was just used and which ones were already there, if you see a gen with no TV near it, it means some one was just there.
Also them taking it out builds 2 points of Condemned and if they stay on the gen they build it further. The TV also doesn't stay off long enough for them to stay on the gen for the full 80 seconds.
These are just my observations from PTB with the little time I spent in it, and so far it seems I was doing quite well, she punishes greed HEAVILY and I really like that about her since theres not really another killer like that.
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@Adaez said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2816375#Comment_2816375
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2816376#Comment_2816376
She's easier to bully because she's weak is what I meant.
I think Wraith,Oni,Demo are all stronger than her,they have mobility and can shut down pallets in less than 5 seconds.
Sure,ofc a killer can bully survivors but in all my games as survivor,I never felt bullied by a killer.
She is far from a weak killer and is actually pretty decent. Problem is from what I can gather is she has a very unique playstyle and you need to keep a lot of mental notes with her
She has what is probably the best map mobility in the game and theres an added bonus of having pretty good game delay. The game delay comes in the form of Condemned and you're able to have a pretty good idea of how much Condemned a Survivor has if you pay attention to the UI. Static on them means they have a tape and if there's no static they don't have a tape. Its almost always safe to assume that if they have a tape on them for quite some time they are probably pretty close to getting fully Condemned which leads to a kill. Survivors obviously want to avoid this and are most likely gonna have to insert the tape which is always the furthest TV from which they pulled the tape from.
She also has what is possibly the best stealth ability in the game which has literally no cooldown and has a passive phasing similar to Spirit which can definitely throw people off, and theres an indicator showing when it happens on your end meaning you can actually make plays around it.
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so you watch a few youtube clips and judge the killers strength off of that? Sadako literally has nothing to do with these clips, they couldve been playing Wraith, Oni, Demo, etc and it wouldn't of made a single difference
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I mean I'm always up for a challenge
But I like a fun challenge
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I just play the game normally, if Im playing with the sole goal of winning Ill find out the weak link and go for them, but of course that all depends on what situation Im in
Doesnt matter what platform theyre on
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Everything in this world requires skill, that includes Survivor and just Dead by Daylight as a whole
Its a really easy game to pick up and understand the mechanics because of its simplicity. How ever theres TONES of little neat tricks to learn through your journey that truly seperates a novice from an expert, and an expert from a master.
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Had a Billy complain to me last night because no one wanted to loop him and we were all holding W
Mans literally had double engravings and tried to go for curves every time and expected us to just let it happen, he also tried acting like it was our fault because he was playing M2 only
Because of this one of my teammates casually told him to M2 into a shower and cool off
Billy didnt like that one
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I must be some god at managing my stress or im just some soulless demon because I seriously don't understand whats so stressful about playing a video game
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@Sleem said:
Love it when my casual but openly helpful comments get ignored. Idk why you limit yourself to just streamers but you do you ig.
My apologies your majesty, it wont happen again
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thats not console issues
that's latency
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@GoshJosh said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2814030#Comment_2814030
Could you please explain further what you mean by that? I genuinely hope you don't mean further nerfing.
Further nerfing? You're acting as if healing has gotten tones of nerfs down the line, its only gotten 1 nerf and that was increasing it from 12 to 16 seconds.
What I would do is increase the amount of charges for each consecutive heal, first heal is your standard 16 charges, second is 18 charges, third is 20 and it caps at that. You still heal at 1c/s.
This way you not only nerf healing but med kits as well which have been one of the most dominant items for a long time.
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Yes
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I've said this time and time again, Circle of Healing doesn't need an overhaul
Healing in general does
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@kate_best_girl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2813747#Comment_2813747
Okay but that's still not explaining why exactly its 'perfectly okay' for a killer to be so bad they literally cannot win no matter how good they are.
I don't think theres a single killer like that in the roster. All killers have something of equal or stronger strength that they can bring to the table.
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@Smuk said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2813722#Comment_2813722
oh please.
lets be objective.
last gen = lags and frame drops
controller settings = clunky
Spinning survivors can juke you easily because if u try to spin with them you will become a helicopter.
m2 and precise aim, forget about it.
Price of base game and dlcs is equal to PC. But is the game experiance somehow even? No.
I was literally just takin the piss lmao
I know console has its issues and they absolutely need to be addressed.
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I mean, no matter what they do there will be killers of all tiers, since every time new killers come out the standard for a killers strength goes up
If we look at what was C tier 3 years ago, it would probably be D or F tier nowadays.
Perfect example as well is Billy, who used to be regarded as an A tier killer who is now put as a C tier or some even think hes D tier. Its not because he got so much worst, every little tactic he had before overheat he still has to this day (except for Space Billy). But there have just been so many new and better killers added that he started to lose the spotlight.
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skill issue
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shouldnt of gotten in that situation in the first place 4head
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2811463#Comment_2811463
That what I thought and I'm hoping but official clarification would be nice
well in that case let me go hand in my resume
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They might of left the custom portraits alone since you can still use them on the PTB
Probably just more measures taken against cheaters
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Not even those in horny jail want to know whats on that tape
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I think he likes it!
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Well in my case, if you donate to me your item. You're free to go (unless I'm doing a personal challenge or some other excuse)
If you pick that item back up, you better start praying to who ever you believe in because theres no damn way you're getting out alive
you gave me that brown medkit, and I'm gonna keep that brown medkit
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Doctor, Huntress or Trickster
Doctor because he's probably the scariest character they've made if you really think about it
Huntress because she's probably the most iconic killer and most recognizable to the outside world
Trickster because we would probably see a bit more of Yun-Jins perspective as well, and it would probably be visually stunning
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@Azshhh said:
Unless my in-game perk tooltips are bugged out or something, some of these buffs are complete lies lol
Self-preservation at tier 3 is still 16 meters
Blast mine at tier 3 is 66% & lasts 45 seconds
Rookie spirit is still just for yourself
bruh these are concepts lmao
they ain't real
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Ah yes, my favorite "holiday" that reminds me that Im still single! 🥲
At least all that chocolate will go on sale...
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couldn't say ping earlier
guy thought I called him a slur
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I mean I'd be down to see an extra perk slot, but no. Killers shouldn't be overpowered just because its a 4v1. Both sides should be of equal strength
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Territorial Imperative or Grim Embrace
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well, ask yourself this question
Do you like piss and farts? Or a laughing dude with blood and nightmares
youre choice
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@bryanmorpa97 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2804403#Comment_2804403
Then why I always get Cold Wind Farm more than the others?
dumb luck thats why
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@Lx_malice said:
Not in any particular order:
Nobody represents the forums better than @Sluzzy themselves.
@GoodBoyKaru is pretty iconic in his own, many ways.
@Shroompy is a just a mood with their posts sometimes and pretty funny.
@Mr_K is just straight up ######### hilarious.
@Orion was one of the most knowledgeable people on the forums. Nearly always agreed with what he had to say about the game. Miss him.
I have a big thing for nostalgia and reminiscence and apparently so does our guy @GeneralV . Straight up chad.
@Aven_Fallen is not someone I always agree with, but this list wouldn't be complete without them. Definitely not to say I never agree with them as they can make a really good point.
Finally I'm putting @Mooks. I don't really know what to say about them, but I see them quite a lot and they're cool🤙
And that's my list. Adieu.
To be put on the same list as these titans
finna make me act up 😩
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"I go against a full SWF squad every game"
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i mean like...
just reroll it...
you're only missing out on 30,000 bp.
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@JonahsTablet said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2806154#Comment_2806154
That pun hurt my head when I first read it.
Did it hurt more than the juicy fruit realization tho?
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How?
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As a character I love Nemesis, but god damn is he disappointing compared to what hes supposed to be in terms of abilities
And I guess considering the only licensed character I have in my main Survivor roster is Jill, shes gonna have to be my choice for Survivor
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So you want those Urban Evading Neas to turn into Rural Catching Neas since they cant crouch at mach speeds?
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I mean if you spent 10 minutes getting chased and your team didnt do gens, was it really a skilled play in the first place?
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I would be down for this
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@JonahsTablet said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2806035#Comment_2806035
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2806033#Comment_2806033
Oh... am I officially the biggest idiot on the forums?
nah chief youre good lmao