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@Peasant said:
SenzuDuck said:@AgentTalon said:
How many of us would opt into a "no SWF" playlist? I'm seriously asking because I would actually prefer to play against a smaller group of even a few hundred in total than see another SWF group who uses voice chat.
Obviously, because why play the "harder" mode, lol.
Still, pretending SWF teams are impossible to beat seems to be the consensus and it simply isn't true.
Most SWF groups aren't as bad as most generally assume. I've had several games where if I hadn't checked profiles a SWF duo would've gone unnoticed by me. It's just the handful of nightmares like the De-pip squad and the few others that use comms like a SWAT team that warrant concern.
It just seems like a few vocal killers who aren't very good at the game need to make out like every match is 4 flashlights wielding SWF teams that bnp and drop darkest moonlight offerings.
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@SadonicShadow said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
Just throws bad light on the devs as usual.
But I dont care anymore, if they will never balance voice comms, thats fine and I will live with it, you can always derank or lobbydodge and avoid most of itThey've honestly done nothing but buff killers recently I have no idea what killer mains have to complain about, you make it like you've never beaten an SWF squad before.
Yes they have fixed a lot of the broken loops, but they have not touched the SWF balance at all.
Of course I have beaten several of those you can beat, but since I dont play billy/nurse, I have faced several ones where I didnt stand a chance
As I said, I accepted that the devs will never change that and are acting accordingly now.
Its one of those problems you gotta live with if you wanna play DBD, just like the peer to peer which is a huge joke aswell
What exactly do you want them to do to "balance" around SWF? They've only made killers stronger, what else do you want, shotguns for your killers?
If they were smart they would give all the survivors an optional in game voice and text based chat so that there was no disparity between solo and SWF then buff the killers around that advantage. Instead we get cookie cutter changes that dont address why SWF is so overpowered. The devs seem to be adverse to taking the simplest and most efficient path in solving this issue.
SWF isn't overpowered though, you can quite easily beat SWF teams without blinking an eye I don't get why it's "overpowered" I have never dodged a lobby because of items, offerings, swf and I reach rank one every season it absolutely bewildered me how people say it's "overpowered".
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@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
Just throws bad light on the devs as usual.
But I dont care anymore, if they will never balance voice comms, thats fine and I will live with it, you can always derank or lobbydodge and avoid most of itThey've honestly done nothing but buff killers recently I have no idea what killer mains have to complain about, you make it like you've never beaten an SWF squad before.
Yes they have fixed a lot of the broken loops, but they have not touched the SWF balance at all.
Of course I have beaten several of those you can beat, but since I dont play billy/nurse, I have faced several ones where I didnt stand a chanceAs I said, I accepted that the devs will never change that and are acting accordingly now.
Its one of those problems you gotta live with if you wanna play DBD, just like the peer to peer which is a huge joke aswell
What exactly do you want them to do to "balance" around SWF? They've only made killers stronger, what else do you want, shotguns for your killers?
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@AgentTalon said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
Just throws bad light on the devs as usual.
But I dont care anymore, if they will never balance voice comms, thats fine and I will live with it, you can always derank or lobbydodge and avoid most of itThey've honestly done nothing but buff killers recently I have no idea what killer mains have to complain about, you make it like you've never beaten an SWF squad before.
I think it's the same reason survivors complain about camping, it makes the game less fun to play.
The gameplay is exactly the same whether you're playing against randos or SWF lol.
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@Master said:
Just throws bad light on the devs as usual.
But I dont care anymore, if they will never balance voice comms, thats fine and I will live with it, you can always derank or lobbydodge and avoid most of itThey've honestly done nothing but buff killers recently I have no idea what killer mains have to complain about, you make it like you've never beaten an SWF squad before.
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@AgentTalon said:
How many of us would opt into a "no SWF" playlist? I'm seriously asking because I would actually prefer to play against a smaller group of even a few hundred in total than see another SWF group who uses voice chat.Obviously, because why play the "harder" mode, lol.
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@Keene_Kills said:
Hard to believe they didn't take into account folks using voice comms when the idea of SWF was floated around... but here we are, waist deep in BS.They absolutely took it into account, no one makes a coop mode and expected everyone to not talk to each other, lmfao.
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@se05239 said:
@Giche said:
Another "[BAD WORD] you" to one part of their community.And even more worse considering they're completely unwilling to balance the game around the power that a SWF squad have. They prefer to just play around a bit around solo 20 survivors..
It's almost like they don't play their own game and haven't experienced it at the highest rank..
SWF isn't hard to beat I honestly don't understand why people act as if no SWF team has ever been destroyed before, if they're SWF and you kill 2 or more then you did well, you don't have to kill all of them for it to be a win, and just because you don't kill all of them doesn't mean they're overpowered lol.
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Whenever someone tells me hitboxes are fine - https://clips.twitch.tv/UninterestedSleepyWaterOSsloth
Both sides hit boxes are screwed, killers getting stunned without being near a pallet and survivors getting hit from all sorts of weird angles.
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Ok dude, just stop. This had nothing to do with survivors being smurfs.
You didn’t lay your first trap until 7:41, one generator was left.
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Exposed usually has pretty harsh conditions attached to it, but if you want to call exposed a game ended then it must be overpowered and made weaker.Nickenzie said:I changed the blindness effect a little, I worded it a little better so you can understand what I was actually trying to say. Additionally, you ignored and didn't tell me if you liked the part where I said "You can only see 24 meters around you, nothing beyond that, period" Tell me what you think after you read that.Is there even a bubble when blindness is in effect? I could absolutely be wrong but I’m sure there isn’t one at all.Yes, there's a big black bubble that EVERY survivor can see even when they are blinded. I want the bubble to be removed when you are blinded so you can't tell where a survivor got hooked at but currently it's not removed and it ruins the point of blindness.Effects are supposed to be hinderances, not game enders.Out of curiosity, have you ever heard of the "exposed" status effect? Hindrance, sure.
Additionally, not seeing far away, losing your ability to hear the terror radius, and losing your aura reading ability doesn't mean "GG". Most killer add-ons that have blindness last for 30 seconds usually and 30 seconds is too little:
-If you are attacked with a blindness hatchet, you can still SEE the killer and losing your ability to hear the terror radius doesn't effect you.
-Not being able to see far isn't required when in a chase, you're supposed to look at the killer and not the sunset.
-30 second blindness is rendered useless overall since it doesn't have enough time to actually hinder the survivor.
If you had Hex Third Seal:
-After a survivor gets off a hook, they won't know if the killer is coming by the terror radius and they can only see so far.
-Auras are blocked and getting off the hook is almost impossible if every survivor is blinded.
-However the Hex can be destroyed at any time and can render your perk slot useless.
not everything has to be super effective against survivors, playing killer isn’t as hard as people on the forums make it out to be, I’m sure you can do fine without buffing everything to the moon and back. -
“Where was you when Myers came out”. What does that even mean? Lmfao - Myers is relatively weak when he doesn’t have a terror radius, he also doesn’t make you deaf he just lacks a large radius at tier 1.Nickenzie said:
I'm taking about that you can only see 24 meters around you, nothing beyond that, period, I'll change it to make it more clear. About not hearing the killer's terror radius, most blindness add-ons that the killer uses only last for 30 seconds. If you are blinded by let's say the Huntress' hatchet's add-on, it's still not gonna be a big deal since you already know that she's there, you don't need a terror radius indication to know that. My changes makes blindness strong when you have it for long periods of times so you'll never know if the killer is coming, you can say that your senses are blinded. If you don't like the deaf idea then where was you at when Myers came out?SenzuDuck said:@Nickenzie said:
Title, the status effect is basically the same as if you didn't have it on you. Sucks, I really wanted this perk to be much much better and all it does is disable your auras. We need to make the status effect better by doing the following:-When a survivor has blindness and another survivor gets hooked, that blinded survivor will not see the black bubble animation around the hooked survivor.
From what I understand blindess as it stand currently prevents seeing where the survivor is even hooked, let alone the black bubble. (Bubbles on hooked survivors are for the benefit of the killer so the survivors can't see exactly where they go, by the way)
-Blinded survivors can only see 24 meters around them until their vision is blocked by darkness. Blindness tiers (I, II, and III) can reduce how far a survivor can see before darkness prevents them from seeing any further.
"until their vision is blocked" are you implying that blindness would be a progressive effect that actually stops the survivors from seeing? Yea, no being blind in a game the relies so heavily on taking a correct path sounds illy.
-Blinded survivor's auras are disabled meaning they cannot see any auras.
Is this not already the case?
-Blinded survivors cannot hear the killer's terror radius.
Blindness making survivors deaf as well as not being able to see (as implied by your post). Sounds like "why would a killer run anything but blindness applying addons).
What's your opinions and feedback?
I think, considering the hook thing and the aura thing are already part of the game you just want blindness to make survivors deaf, and to not be able to see, sounds not fun at all, i absolutely hate being blinded on the game, to also make it deafen you (lol?) and so you actually can't see Id be highly against these changes.
I don't care about the bubble, get rid of it when you are blinded because it renders the blindness status effect pointless when you can where a survivor been hooked at.
and the reason the silent radius on him works is because he’s slow at that tier, any other killer without a terror radius would be awful to play against, which is why terror radius effects are usually limited in time (Tinkerers) or have a condition (M&A).
i just don’t like your suggestions, you asked for opinions so deal with them.
Is there even a bubble when blindness is in effect? I could absolutely be wrong but I’m sure there isn’t one at all.
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@Nickenzie said:
Title, the status effect is basically the same as if you didn't have it on you. Sucks, I really wanted this perk to be much much better and all it does is disable your auras. We need to make the status effect better by doing the following:-When a survivor has blindness and another survivor gets hooked, that blinded survivor will not see the black bubble animation around the hooked survivor.
From what I understand blindess as it stand currently prevents seeing where the survivor is even hooked, let alone the black bubble. (Bubbles on hooked survivors are for the benefit of the killer so the survivors can't see exactly where they go, by the way)
-Blinded survivors can only see 24 meters around them until their vision is blocked by darkness. Blindness tiers (I, II, and III) can reduce how far a survivor can see before darkness prevents them from seeing any further.
"until their vision is blocked" are you implying that blindness would be a progressive effect that actually stops the survivors from seeing? Yea, no being blind in a game the relies so heavily on taking a correct path sounds illy.
-Blinded survivor's auras are disabled meaning they cannot see any auras.
Is this not already the case?
-Blinded survivors cannot hear the killer's terror radius.
Blindness making survivors deaf as well as not being able to see (as implied by your post). Sounds like "why would a killer run anything but blindness applying addons).
What's your opinions and feedback?
I think, considering the hook thing and the aura thing are already part of the game you just want blindness to make survivors deaf, and to not be able to see, sounds not fun at all, i absolutely hate being blinded on the game, to also make it deafen you (lol?) and so you actually can't see Id be highly against these changes.
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@DarkWo1f997 said:
Vortexas said:If you have UNSTABLE internet, an online competitive game isn't for you.
1GB upload download speed. Isn’t me buddy.
So is BACKSTABBER your alt account then? You seem to be taking comments on someone else' post very personally.
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@DarkWo1f997 said:
Orion said:Yes. Get a better connection or stop playing online games when you know you can't.
1GB upload, download scrub. Stfu
What has the speed got to do with anything? If the CONNECTION is bad it doesn't really matter how fast your internet is If it doesn't connect to the device you're playing the game on, Grow up.
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@Vortexas said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Vortexas said:
@apparatustime said:
Noticed in my first 5 games that generators are just not being completed due to everyone searching to go harvest. Thus allowing killers easy kills and deaths. Also sucks you cant sabotage any of the event hooks. Really puts surviors at a disadvantageYou also can't kick the Cankers, which puts the killer at a severe disadvantage.
How do you even make this comparison?
I should be able to kick them, and cost you blight by making it spurt out a percentage of it. The Entity defends its precious bodily fluids.
That would be fair and balanced if they made it so event hooks could be sabo'd.
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Just remember that sword you are throwing rocks at hanging over your head cuts both ways kiddo.
I personally think they should have made hooks able to be saboed, but respawn within 5-10 seconds.
But comparing a secondary objective like the cankers which gain the killer a substantial amount of extra time in game to hooks is a ridiculous notion.
While it may be annoying for a hook to get saboed it's always been part of the game and removing that feature entirely while giving survivors secondary objectives that gain the killer a lot of time is silly.
Just remember that sword you are throwing rocks at hanging over your head cuts both ways kiddo.
Also have no idea what you mean by this? Kicking cankers would be in no way shape or form "balanced" the cankers literally only help killers but you want to make their life span shorter? Every comment you makes has me face palming even harder.
The only reason you'd want to kick cankers would be to be toxic, survivors have always been able to sabo hooks and while sabo may be used more often in events a short respawn timer on event hooks would be more true to the game.
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@Vortexas said:
@apparatustime said:
Noticed in my first 5 games that generators are just not being completed due to everyone searching to go harvest. Thus allowing killers easy kills and deaths. Also sucks you cant sabotage any of the event hooks. Really puts surviors at a disadvantageYou also can't kick the Cankers, which puts the killer at a severe disadvantage.
How do you even make this comparison?
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Kate & Min should be to be able to makeout instead of doing gens.Chi said:@Aari_Piggy66 said:
Chi said:Claudette and Jake, Adam and Kate (Dunno why, I just think they look cute together.), Dwight and David. (Same as Adam and Kate.)
Kate and Min nuff said
Sounding like @SenzuDuck here...
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Well I played the game for all of 4/5 hours because it wasn’t goodyeet said:@SenzuDuck said:
@Just_Meh said:
chemical_reject said:Lol and this is why they will never implement another objective other then generators.
They should tho. This should b like F13 where it's so rare to escape. We already get more blood points anyhow so that just shows we are susposed to b superior.
It was rare to escape in F13 because it was an awful game to play.
Loading into a match just to have Jason insta grab and kill you - can't leave the lobby or you'd lose all your points, it was honestly awful, and he only reason it grabbed traction because loads of large streamers were streaming it and having funny coms.Any game where one side "barely has a chance" is not a game many people will stick around to play.
lol bullying jason was easy mode, jason was weaker than DbD killers if you knew what you were doing
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I agree, it's spoopy and not awful like the last few have been.
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@Kilmeran said:
Then it is an extremely piss-poor test as a game play design test in regards to what is normally talked about. The secondary objective they have in place right now is disconnected from the core game, and farmable and abusable as people have already stated.Whereas the secondary objectives usually discussed, such as generator parts and/or fuel canisters, are directly connected to the core game: Being able to repair and power the generators to then power the gates.
You can't effectively datamine secondary objectives for the core game when using disconnected secondary objectives like this as your source.
And I'm speaking as someone who has done game design. I did it for 12 years.
While I agree it is disconnected from the core game play this is simply a theory and is in no way shape or form true, it's just what I'm thinking, whether it is or not doesn't really matter.
Survivors have always insta died, insta DCed etc, it happens, the same goes for killers DCing they all do it without reason DCs are being dealt with and survivors that go and chase the killer so they can be killed I suggest you maybe report them for unsportsmanlike conduct, I'm pretty sure it falls under that.
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@redsopine1 said:
Wait since this is question asking is dribbling a exploit or just a f you to the ds userIt's a tactic and is not bannable, it's in the same vein as gen tapping. While some people might see it as scummy they're both fine to do if you want too.
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@Claudette_Baguette said:
This is an event. It is not an attempt to slow down the game permanently. That's a completely different story.Survivors just abuse the mechanics. They get the serum, hooked and die and repeat. That's boring and not fun for killers anyway because survivors have no will to live or survive after the serums. If you think this as a permanent addition would make the game better I don't know anymore.
Whilst I agree this is an event, i do also think it's a test to see the impact of secondary survivor objectives to see how they fit in, if they do at all.
While playing my 15 matches that I had earlier before work not once did I have a random run around, get serum and suicide on the hook - everyone played until he end or their time was up.
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@Just_Meh said:
Isn't that what killers are supposed to be... Strong and unbeatable?If you don't understand video games, then yes. Killers should be unbeatable forces that the other side stand absolutely no chance against and will thus stop playing the game because it's unfair.
On the other hand - if you understand video games like a large portion of this forum do - you have to understand that while some sides might not like some things they're there to make each side enjoyable and more engaging, while they might be at the expense of the other sides fun, each side can find fun in finding ways around each others things
TLDR; If you think games should be made where only one said can win because they're "unbeatable" you probably don't understand that both sides need to enjoy the game.
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@Claudette_Baguette said:
Last events there was no farming. Survivors had to do gens and that's it. Now they just want serums and die. It's the devs fault if they implement such abuseable mechanics.Sorry - but I've seen more killers complain about there not being enough things for survivors to do, now there's even more things and people are still complaining, they literally can't win.
Survivors kill themselves on the hook daily, get your Serum, get out, or get your Serum and die. I don't see at that much of an issue, if it's really becoming a deal SWF with friends.
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@FairyFox said:
Yup. Guess I have to wait 2 weeks until I can get normal games again...It's literally get serum -> let killer hook you intentionally -> die -> repeat.
Boring as [BAD WORD]. I don't know why the devs haven't thought about the farming aspect of this event.
You can't stop farming - this game is about survivors interacting with things and the killer may chose or chose not to kill you, there's nothing BHVR can do if people want to do this.
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@Terrortot said:
Got it free on ps4, installed when the dbd error was going on. Spawned in as jason in front of someone in a house and i hear him say "hes outside the house, oh, ah ######### i stepped in a trap. Well, im dead." and some 10 year old saying he found some car keys gogogo... Slashed the one guy in the trap, crappy animation, rest of the skills just felt horrible after playing dbd. Left the game and uninstalled.Yea - I honestly don't get how some people can suggest F13 things in DBD. I've seen it being said a few times now and it absolutely blows my mind, at that point they aren't arguing or commenting for balance, they just want their side to be strong and unbeatable.
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I encourage you to play SWF until you're all finished on the survivor side.
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@Just_Meh said:
Stop crying about items. If we dc it is for a reason unlike how survivors dc which is for any reason.Killers and Survivors both DC for some stupid crap, I can almost guarantee everyone in this thread (except you ofcourse) will agree on this.
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@Just_Meh said:
It is a really popular game though so... Also, the devs are going in that direction. Killers are now getting the power role they deserve. Nerfing DS with what's already been nerfed and ya'll got not chance.
If your argument holds wouldn't this game have tanked long ago? Survivors have had it sooooo easy. This game is still popular. Now it's our turn.Nah, I play killer and survivor - it's not nearly as hard as the people on the forums make it out to be.
SWF Teams are often some of the easiest to beat when they're all pulling each other off the hooks in front of the killer.
D-strike could use a nerf, I totally agree on that - survivors don't deserve a get off the shoulder free perk after the killer has hit them twice and downed them.
The game is certainly getting a little more challenging for survivors while making it slightly easier for killers but it's never been a truly one sided game - there's always been ways and means to beat each team it just depends on if the killer can capitalise and find the flaws.
It's ok though, enjoy the game.
I also wouldn't really say it's a popular game at all - peak of 16K which was an immediate drop off after that with only one bump, now it averages 300 players, probably due to copyright issues and it's simply not that fun to play really.
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@Just_Meh said:
chemical_reject said:Lol and this is why they will never implement another objective other then generators.
They should tho. This should b like F13 where it's so rare to escape. We already get more blood points anyhow so that just shows we are susposed to b superior.
It was rare to escape in F13 because it was an awful game to play.
Loading into a match just to have Jason insta grab and kill you - can't leave the lobby or you'd lose all your points, it was honestly awful, and he only reason it grabbed traction because loads of large streamers were streaming it and having funny coms.Any game where one side "barely has a chance" is not a game many people will stick around to play.
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@Just_Meh said:
Sad thing is, they aren't doing gens... Easiest 4ks ever muaahahahhThese flowers should be called survivors kryptonite
Again, this is okay. No survivor is entitled to escape just as no killer is entitled to a kill.
They'll leave with bloodpoints, you'll leave with maybe a safety pip, the cycle repeats.
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I think it's just due to time, they only have so many on the team, the killers outfits look way more complicated and more intricate than the survivors so they went ham making killer outfits while only giving us a couple of survivor outfits.
I also see as anything around Halloween being a "killers" event anyway, it's celebrating terror and fear - which is why I'm fine with it.
(also every survivor bar the newest ones have 3458973498759834598347598734598734 outfits)
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That's okay - while you're camping one survivor the rest of the team are getting their objective
Enjoy the event!
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I highly doubt they'd use the Douglas Pipes soundtrack picture for promotional content tbh.
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@FrenziedRoach said:
Killer's disconnect - survivor might lose offerings or addins, but they all get to continue to a fresh game.Survivor Disconnects - everybody still in the game is now in a tainted game and has to finish the damn thing or get penalized as well.
Don't act like the killer disconnecting is a bigger deal for even a moment.
Killer DC nukes the entire match of four people, four peoples offerings and the time spent waiting in a lobby is for nothing.
Survivor DCs - everyone still gets to earn points and some survivors might even escape.
yea ok buddy, killer dcing is definitely more preferred.
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@purebalance said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@HellDescent said:
Then you can imagine how killers feel when survivors dc and you lose bbq stacks, offerings and addonsWhy does it always have to be a pissing contest if someone has an issue it's always "but the killer waa waa waa" or "But the survivor waaa waaa waaaa" Simple fact is, killer DCs 4 survivors lose out on things, one survivors Dips the killer can play an albeit easier match.
This isn't even remotely close to what happens to killers. As a killer you still get points towards the sacrifice emblem and you get points if a survivor dc's and you still have 3 others to get points from. It's still not even close to all 4 dc'ing which the odds of that are slim unless you're lagswitching in which case you deserve it. This is 1-4 survivors getting nothing because a killer is using an exploit.
I'm at the point of trying to find out how to do it and just doing it every game until they not only fix it but refund me the 2 million blood points I've lost to this exploit at this point.
Exactly, but the people who like to act as if every match is 4-man swf claudette fflashlight insta heal ds team will adamantly stand by the one survivor dcing is even remotely close to a killer dcing.
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@Vortexas said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Vortexas said:
You shouldn't be allowed to collect vials unless you pop an offering. For Killer and Survivor.For what reason? lmao
Because it's BS for example to be the only survivor to pop it, and get no nectar because of a bunch of greedy feeders.
Yea because I'm sure you're only taking the amount of pestula points you put into the match, lol.
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@Vortexas said:
You shouldn't be allowed to collect vials unless you pop an offering. For Killer and Survivor.For what reason? lmao
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@HellDescent said:
Then you can imagine how killers feel when survivors dc and you lose bbq stacks, offerings and addonsWhy does it always have to be a pissing contest if someone has an issue it's always "but the killer waa waa waa" or "But the survivor waaa waaa waaaa" Simple fact is, killer DCs 4 survivors lose out on things, one survivors Dips the killer can play an albeit easier match.
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they didn't lead anyone on, none of the event information would have been shown until the stream yesterday, where they showed and told exactly what the event was to entail.
they threw up a few videos here and there to hint about it coming but nowhere did they mention scale, time, amount of cosmetics, EVER.
It's the data miners fault for showing all those cosmetics and everyone assuming that you'd be able to earn them all, get over it.
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Simple - don't buy them. If you see no value in having them because you can't see them it shouldn't matter how much they've cost as you've already deemed them useless because you can't see them.
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@Boss said:
It would actually be very horrible on low ranks, not just a case of "git gud", it'll be very unfun for them.Exactly, I'm all for balancing but some people absolutely disregard new players because "they'll just get better" or "they need to get better". If I came into an online game and there was a mechanic that was making it stupidly hard for me to help my teammates out I'd quickly dip as to not ruin their game.
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- Removed as misinterpreted the comment -Lowbei said:i would be ok with the hatch opening at 2 gens instead of 3 -
I usually get the same map twice in a row and then it does another map twice in a row.
They need to take a couple of weeks to add maps to the pools that have less in them and just drop them too us.
Merge Licensed maps under the same pool & offering so you can't guarantee those maps anymore
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@SovererignKing said:
Not really. The healing nerf is balanced out by the Slugging nerf. Realistically, these nerfs only adversely effect bad play styles on both sides. Healing nerf only really hurts overly cocky Survivors who (most of whom like to giggle and shrug off hits cause “LULZ SELF CARE!”) Survivors who SWF conga line body block hooks and body block for each other ect. Slugging Billy or Nurse, or well, any Killer that slugs habitually and uses slugging as a full on strategy.@Tzeentchling9 You’re joking right? There is a HUGE difference between being able to heal a bit faster with Self Care, and full blown insta-downs. Those two are nowhere near comparable to me, the NOED buff far outweighs the buff Self scare got. The speed nerf of NOED was fine, but the insta-down on all levels was just bad. NOED was a crutch for those Killers who had tier 3 already, now it’s a crutch for EVERY Killer who just gets it. This will only promote more hard camping as “LULZ, I camp out one or two players and when you finish the gens, NOED mops up the rest for me.”
Agreed, NOED is really double edged for campers. If a killer camps the response from most, and even myself is "Gen Rush". So if you do all the gens, you're not worried about totems so you're not wasting the time you're getting from the killer camping, but then you have NOED procing on top of that and rewarding the counter for camping which is doing gens. It's really weird to work around.
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@powerbats said:
@SenzuDuck said:
Ya'll have fun now ;DThis is a great change and should reduce the "toxicity" in event based matches.
Which is ironically the fix I suggested and said the devs were most likely to do to solve the issue and got told the devs wouldn't do it.
Now we just have to wait for the newest complaint threads to arrive with new complaints in 3,2,1 😜
Because the devs are only out to get killers, obviously LUL
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They're also becoming airborne - https://clips.twitch.tv/DepressedStrangeJamRalpherZ