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@aoifepink said:
I really doubt reporting does anything. I've never heard of an incident that was followed up, I suppose its a fine line between freedom of speech vs censorship
Nah, I’ve made reports before and they have been followed up on. I’m on xbox though and they’re pretty immediate with hate speech etc.
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@Elena said:
I think I know what spot you're talking about.
I was solo queueing the other day and this Jake on my team managed to get onto this, certain spot... and thought he was important and t-bagged in front of the killer because he couldn't get to him.
I felt bad for the killer but it was satisfying watching the Jake meet his demise.
Lol, it is satisfying when they eventually meet their demise.
It probably is the spot - and seems to be the MO of survivors who are using said spot. They go there, teabag or flashlight click, point, etc.
just had a match where all 4 were there, teabagging, then messaged me and told me they’d move if I let them repair gens.
it makes me wonder why they couldn’t do that in the first place.
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@lemonsway said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2403198#Comment_2403198
what's toxic about DC'ing? If they found a reason to DC then let them, you don't lose anything, only the DCer does. The only thing you can complain about is potential longer queues.
Incorrect.
played a game this morning. Jake got hit, and DCed - not even downed. We didn’t get far. You rarely do at 5 gens at the beginning of a game.
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@businesstrapinch said:
Logged in as normal to play Demogorgon. Perks are surge, NoEd, Bitter Murmur and Mindbreaker. Add-ons were the rat liver and black heart. Burned a sacrificial cake offering.
Game was going fine, lots of hook saves in front of my face but that's not new or weird. I ran over to see these two healing on top of some rocks. I tried a few times to attack them but could not reach them, just kept getting blinded by their flashlight. Promptly took a screenshot and left the game to generate this report. I don't like playing in games where suvivors exploit the mechanics like this, I'd rather just deal with the matchmaking delay.
My partner made a report earlier, had the same issue with someone doing the exact same thing. They moved once the entire match, then ran back up. They died to EGC 🤷♀️
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@Lostmaniac said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2400744#Comment_2400744
Bamboozle do not close windows, survivors can jump over them.
А sound for closing the window appears.
Weird, it’s working okay for me and I use it on a lot of my killers. What perk combo are you using?
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@bibibib8 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2396894#Comment_2396894
Then you will know the hit box of nemesis is like deathslinger but on the vertical.
This. I find his tentacle attack has to be spot on otherwise you won’t get a hit. It’s only if you angle it at windows, pallets, you’ll get the hit. This also coming from someone who’s played a lot of nemesis. Actually, pretty much become my main since the dlc released.
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@ASurvkillivorer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1538960#Comment_1538960
No one wants to play at a huge disadvantage. INSANE I know.
In come the people pretending there is no difference.
I play console, I’ve played both survivor and killer. I’m red ranks. There isn’t that big a gap. I don’t struggle anymore against good players than i do before crossplay. Good players are good players, regardless of platform.
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Angry at the killer for finding them first at the party? 😉
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@Trickstaaaaa said:
I would rather them keep DC penalty off. And make it so if a player disconnects they pip down an entire pip regardless of what points they have on the system.
An entire pip? Do you mean rank? 🤔
also they don’t care about pips, if they did, they wouldn’t DC. They don’t care about BP, or they wouldn’t DC. People who continuously DC only care about winning, and if they get downed, or even hit first, spawn on a map that isn’t to their liking, or go against a killer that isn’t to their liking - they DC.
Knowing someone who does this regularly (and no, I won’t play with them any more), they won’t play against a majority of killers and don’t care about anyone else’s enjoyment but their own. That’s fine. It’s a game and everyone should have fun, but when it’s DCing against the majority of killers, and some maps, or when you get hit first and leave the rest of your team and set them up to fail? Because when you barely have a gen done and there’s 3v1, it’s unlikely to give survivors a chance. It encourages further DCs. The ones left depip and lose BPs for trying to hold on as long as they can in a 2v1 or 1v1.
Roll on the DC penalty.
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@SilentPill said:
Or…just force them out? You are already taking a loss, take the teabags like a man if they are trying to waste your time.
Or be an adult and don’t teabag? 🤔
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@IlliterateGenocide said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2152598#Comment_2152598
I think it depends if you play a certain characters or not , if u don't ur fine with the changes, but if u do u will probs hate them
Nope. A lot of people hate the kate rework. She’s my main and I think they did a great job. Same as Claudette. She used to be my main and I still play her a bit, but her hair looks so much better now, as well as the other things they’ve tweaked.
No one’s really mentioned jake, I think out of all of them, he’s one of the ones that looks significantly different from how he used to. Though those that have mentioned him, think he looks good.
People have their own personal opinions though and not everyone’s going to be happy.
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@brokedownpalace said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2386000#Comment_2386000
Oh i missed your reply. My bad. I tried for months to get a ps5 before giving up 😢
I’m not sure where in the world you are - but if you follow stock informer (they have a UK & US version), you can join their telegram & discord group/servers, and they’ll send instant alerts when they have stock of PS5 & xsx. I got mine that way in the uk, and managed to inform a friend in the US of stock too which got them one. Hope that helps and you’re able to get one soon 😊
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@thrawn3054 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2385994#Comment_2385994
Says the person trying to force others to play something they hate.
It’s part of DBD. It’s not forcing anything. Using that stance, anyone playing an offering for any map, the chances are someone isn’t going to like it, thus forcing someone to play something they don’t like. You’re playing a game to enjoy it - regardless of the map, etc. Some people have favourite maps, maps they like more, and maps they aren’t so fond of.
what I find funny about people who want to DC on certain maps is that they just won’t get better with those maps. Same goes for DCing against certain killers, perks etc. If you want to ragequit like a child then don’t expect to get better. And if you want to throw your toys out of the pram because it isn’t EXACTLY to your liking - go and play something single player where you can put it on easy and don’t have to learn or adapt.
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@throughshot said:
Situation:
Two survivors left.
The Killer did not hook anyone, just kicked generators, never end.
Can't do anything but leave the match lossing rank.
Match Details did not show killer's name,
Can't report or block the dirty guy after quit.
Lol, we had a game last night where the killer actually did block us in a corner after refusing to hook (2) of us, and took the game hostage. Then after about 15 minutes downed us and let us bleed out instead of hooking us. Only reason we didn’t DC was to get videos of what happened.
not being able to finish gens but having the freedom of the map is completely different.
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@ThiccBudhha said:
There are lots of toxic people, sure. But there is also lots of kind people. I have gotten more friendly messages in 3 weeks of this game than I have in any other online game I have been a part of.
I agree with this. I even got signed out of my account last night because my partner had been signed in on my series x, and as she loaded her xbox up and dbd, it signed me out of the game - really stupid feature the series x needs to fix. Anyhow, I got a ggwp instead of the usual assumptions that I’ve rage quit etc. Although I took it with a grain of salt initially, I messaged back and we had a nice conversation.
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@Ruma said:
More and more survivors abusing this bug that prevents the killer from hitting you at the exit gate and its ######### annoying, standing there, watching them tbag you while you cant do anything.
I played a nice demoboi the whole match, didnt tunneled or camped or anything and only got a 2k and they still feel the need to do this #########.
Pleas. Fix this bug!
[double post]
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@Ruma said:
More and more survivors abusing this bug that prevents the killer from hitting you at the exit gate and its ######### annoying, standing there, watching them tbag you while you cant do anything.
I played a nice demoboi the whole match, didnt tunneled or camped or anything and only got a 2k and they still feel the need to do this #########.
Pleas. Fix this bug!
I had people do that earlier, I was playing trapper and not really playing too seriously - just wanted my crown. But they’d been BMing the whole match. Anyway, at the end all 4 were at the exit gates and couldn’t hit any, 3 left but claudette stuck around to teabag and point, so I started setting a trap right where she was. I didn’t think it was going to work… neither did she apparently because she stayed where she was - only to get trapped and subsequently hooked 🤭
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@Unifall said:
Pretty basic killer. Whip is useless tier 1 tier 2 is a pain to level tier 3 is almost impossible without add ons. His m1 is better than his abilities. Zombies are interesting but very weak and useless in open maps. Overall maybe C tier or D tier imo. And can't get crowns with license killers.
It’s so quick getting to tier 2? And tier three isn’t so bad as long as you’re making use of zombies and hitting survivors.
I’ll usually m1 until I’m at tier 2 or it’s an easy window/pallet hit at t1.
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@GPdMK2 said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/ZREYC2APD016/untitled.png
So, I just got three matches in a row where I've got four iridescent emblems and instead of getting two pipis I lost 1. It's not a huge problem, considering that I don't care at all about ranks and all the other issues that the game is facing currently, but it doesn't feel like a good thing to happen in general.
I was having this issue last night, however, when I restarted the game my rank and pips were correct. Have you tried doing that or is it taking it away?
my only issue has been it not awarding BPs post match, but remembering the xp gains and pips.
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@OniWantsYourMacaroni said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2337648#Comment_2337648
Yes,and it's basically unplayable.
Never seen a game with performamce THIS bad
This is what’s grinding my gears currently. People keep saying performance on console is terrible. It isn’t. It’s just on old consoles. Even older PCs. New consoles are working just fine. Higher end PCs are working just fine.
people want the game to be better, devs work on improving the game, older consoles/PCs can’t handle it - people are going to be unhappy. There’s a delicate balance they need to find and it’s going to take time. Unfortunately, there isn’t much patience at the moment because there were so many bugs and issues that happened all at once.
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@van9684 said:
Might be how you’re playing honestly. Nobody wants to play in a kill simulator where killer is only one having fun.
It can be, but I’ve found the games where survivors are DCing, they bring a key in, and once they get down to 2 gens after gen rushing and two people have baited chases, and lost said chases, DCs quickly happen. These are rank 1-6 players, going against a rank 15 killer with one perk. Go figure 🤷♀️
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@Dennis_van_eijk said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2283148#Comment_2283148
Cough couch ubisoft couch 😅
With operation health on rainbow 6 siege they actually gave free stuff to everyone who were playing the game before that season.
A full elite skin for Ash, as well as weapon skins and charms for her and some weapon skins and charms for some other operators.
And, but i could be wrong, they even gave some rainbow 6 points, ie game currency which you normally had to buy with real life money. 😉
I should’ve said, something you usually* don’t see with bigger companies. At least from my experience. That’s cool that ubisoft have actually compensated players though.
with all the issues ESO has had, and there have been a plethora, not once have they given plyers anything, and a lot of them pay monthly subscriptions for the benefits it brings. And when you oay a subscription for the game to bot work, or servers to go down a lot, it’s kind of a slap in the face. One of the many reasons I stopped playing was because of the game’s health. Apparently it has improved now, but it was a little too late for me to get back into it.
i do think BHVR sort things out pretty quick… although I know people think they put their head in the sand. They could be better at communicating, but they do get things fixed as soon as they can, from what I see.
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There are multiplayer bethesda games. They equally have a bunch of issues, and usually do with updates, making the game unplayable at times - system crashes, disconnecting from the server, unable to group up with people, losing comms, crashes in PVP often, having to reload the game because the load screen gets stuck. Even been issues where characters get stuck in certain areas which make them unplayable until a new update comes out. Bethesdas response? Play a different character… And they’re just some of issues off the top of my head I can think of.
I get the frustration with DBD at the moment - but in comparison, it isn’t as bad as other multiplayer games I’ve played. Doesn’t make it okay, but considering they are a smaller company, they fix issues pretty quick and compensate, something no you don’t see with bigger companies.
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@Reinami said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/258401/stop-being-disproportionate
Name another online multiplayer game that has this many problems every patch.
Elder scrolls.
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@SoapNSpook said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2265373#Comment_2265373
It was killer's choice to leave it. Bamboozle can't be compared to that at all.
It’s your choice to stay in an area with bamboozle if that’s the logic.
you can get to another area, you can use pallets.
You can actually even hear when bamboozle activates if you pay attention.
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@shadowninja2012 said:
lovely, ran into another booster working for the killer, im deleting this piece of crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you devs need to do better than this
Lol, there’s definitely been a lot more lag since yesterday.... don’t assume people are boosting or cheating. My connection’s usually really good. Today? Ping’s great - connection’s great... I’ve tested it. still getting lag spikes as killer. I hit a meg who was in front of me, when I went to pick her up, it made the vault sound and she was over the wall - still downed. They need to make some changes and fast.
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Curious - what are they running? I want to see if I’m one of those legions 🤔 haha
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Just use lightborn if you see flashlights in your lobby. Gets rid of the issue completely.
as for the person saying flashlights need buffing - LOL.
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@Sadsnacks said:
It's a catch 22
Killers can't win in high ranks without tunneling and slugging and the occasional proxy camp.
Survivors can't counter those without the crutch perks.
TBF I get called a tunneler even when I leave and patrol gens and then run into the same survivor I just hooked and down them again.
I get called a camper for camping the last person on hook when the gates are open
🤷
Killers absolutely can win without tunnelling, slugging & proxy camping. It’s on very RARE occasion I slug and that’s due to survivors swarming around the downed survivor with flashlights or some unbeknown reason.
If you want to play like that - fine - but don’t make excuses and act like you have to play a certain way at a certain rank, because you don’t.
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Even IF they just tweaked him so he uncloaked faster instead of needing to use addons, it would make playing him so much smoother. He has some great addons - and even the more “duddy” ones would be viable if you could pair them with his others if uncloaking that bit faster was part of his base power.
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@[Deleted User] said:
People saying Legion and Wraith need to get good lmao
Thank you 👏
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@bkillerc said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1479683#Comment_1479683
Oh agreed! He certainly is, but I think when frenzy triggered sloppy it was a better slow (if survivors healed)
True! I used to run sloppy with it - it went really nice with the other perks. It always confuses me when I play against a legion not running thana. One of the few killers I find it strong on.
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@bkillerc said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1479395#Comment_1479395
This!
superior to a good rng pig, but extra box extra trap with good rng pig using sloppy thana pop is a strong slow.
legion before the nerf with extra mend time and thana sloppy pop was really good
Legion is strong *now* with thana & pop. And then discordance with 4th perk slot being a flex spot.
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@Angerydoge said:
With cross play getting closer it seems like it would make sense if killer were able to see what they are up against. An indicator to see who is in an SWF as killer would be very helpful to know what to expect before you go into a match and would mean you wouldn't have to look through profiles like a weird FBI agent. If killers had this ability it would make games more fair because they would know if they were going to get gen rushed by a 4 man so they could put moris on or perks that would increase their chance of actually getting some kills.
This wouldn't effect SWF at high ranks and would make the game less stressful for casually killers who just want to play the game. With cross play being added in the near future killers wont be able to check the profiles of people on console meaning that they will have no idea what they are going up against. There really isn't a reason why this shouldn't be added.
As a killer main I disagree. I don’t think this should be added at all.
i think people tend to forget this IS a game where there are a variety of people playing with a varying range of skill. Sometimes you’ll get 4 solo players who play like they’re SWF, likewise a full SWF group who play as if they’re all solo. On the flipside, a well coordinated skilled group of SWF is a challenge - but killers who oppose this need to realise you cannot win every single trial - and vice versa. But the trials you don’t win, you can still learn from it and improve.
At the end of the day it is a game and people shouldn’t take it so seriously - and if you do - then obviously a SWF group shouldn’t be such an issue because you’re playing more competitively. Again, hone your skills and keep improving - playing against better players only helps you improve. Both roles can’t win every trial. It goes both ways. Move on with your day and enjoy the next trial you’re in. If it gets frustrating, take a minute.
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@WalkedMoss92 said:
I play both killer and survivor equally but lately, I've started playing Ghostface a lot. I became obsessed with playing him mostly because I got a real good hang of him real quick. Now I do really well every match because I understand how to use his power to full potential but I'm not a fan of his perks.
There are TONS of suggestions from people on YouTube with the "best bulids" for him but they are all different ideas. Usually i'd go with their advice but I also saw that they mained other killers so I didn't know whether to take their advice completely or not.
For players who MOSTLY main Ghostface, what are some different bulids to use for him to make him even more powerful?
Usually I run ruin / bamboozle / surveillance and the last spot is more a flex spot. More often than not it’s lightborn but if there aren’t flashlights, brutal strength is nice, or bbq if you want extra bps. You could even run nurse’s. Really depends on your playstyle for the last spot I think and what you like 😊
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@Exxodus21 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1404474#Comment_1404474
Update: I played a match with one of the Silent Hill characters and tried the code again and it worked.
I just switched to PH and went back to the menu (without playing a match), tried the code again and it worked.
thank you for that 👍
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Everyone goes on about how a charm or outfit would encourage homophobes to target players more, but you forget a lot of people have their IDs/gamertags etc as something that includes “GAYmer” les[insert pun] and so on, and DON’T get targeted. Hell, I had my GT that included GAYmer for a good while and there was no difference in my gaming before or after.
It’s a reach to say killers would target survivors more, etc. It’s a game, people are gonna play how they usually play - regardless. If that person is generally toxic they’re gonna be toxic regardless of whether you’re gay/straight or whatever.
just my two cents.
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@DeadArsenal said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1351639#Comment_1351639
"Less phobia and more understanding" is wishful thinking. You are under the mistaken impression that people hold prejudice because they are ignorant. Quite the opposite: Prejudice is learned behavior, and people are learning it watching twitter raid streamer chats and insist that anyone who dissents from their talking points is a filthy evil bigot that must be punished.
There’s a mix of people - those who are ignorant and those like you said have been taught. This is why I said minuscule - I’m not naive to believe everyone who plays will be like “oh, this doesn’t change the character at all... go figure”, but you can’t assume it won’t make any difference.
I do know people who’ve had those misconceptions, who were taught to be prejudice... who aren’t now. There are those who realise it’s wrong to hate on someone because of who they love/any other reason.
some people are just bad, but not all. Some people can learn and grow. It’s just difficult remembering that, especially with the current climate.
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As soon as you hear the click look straight up! Or start running lightborn. It’s especially fun in games when 3 or 4 survivors have them :)
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@Orionbash said:
Preface: I'm gay. It's just corporate pandering. I don't need representation in every. single. game. I. play. But there are people that demand it and it drive me nuts. I'm not these characters and they're not me.
I don't play DbD just for lore and I don't think there's a single person that does. Just like I wouldn't pick up Persona 5 just to play a straight dude.
Companies just do it to seem socially responsible at the end of the day. If they wanna make a gay character, fine. But they're only doing it post-BLM riots and because it's gay pride. And watch: The first gay character, if it isn't Jake or Jane, will be stereotypical.
Here’s the thing. More games have representation now but not all. The fact you’re gay and don’t think this is an issue is kind of sad.
It’s cool you enjoy playing games and don’t think about sexuality, I’m sure many people don’t. However, when a game let’s you choose whether you’re straight or gay (or anything in between), it’s actually nice, whether you believe it to be pandering or not. The fact is the World has come a long way, and the fact videogames, which is something many of us enjoy to escape, are hearing us and seeing us isn’t a bad thing.
there is still so much wrong the world but even little things like this show progress and how people CAN change. BHVR are displaying this in what they’ve said.
The more representation means in time, less phobia and more understanding... even if it’s minuscule due to representation in a game, it’s still progress.
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Think it also depends on how you’ve played during the game. Perhaps what you’ve done has somehow made them unhappy. Chases were too long, what you did, in their eyes, was toxic (just hypothesizing). Maybe you just get unlucky.
I’ll usually let the last survivor go, especially if they’ve got the 4% (before all survivors we're downed/sacrificed). If it’s been a toxic match - everyone dies 🤷♀️
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@LetsPlayTogether said:
I think this challenge is already impossible to beginn with, ignoring DCs. How bad must survivors be to get all sacrificied in the basement? Its much to easy to deny this challenge and as a killer you cant do anything.
They don’t need to be in there at the same time when they die, but when a survivor dies they need to be in the basement. Just run it like you would the agitation challenge and pair it with iron grasp. It may take a few attempts but it’s really not that bad. Got it on my 3rd attempt last night after cycling through a few killers; ended up being GF 🤷♀️
The only reason a survivor(s) would deny the challenge is if a killer’s playing toxic, i.e basement bubba or any insidious build. Had an insidious trapper earlier that camped the basement and hooked 3 survivors; bearing in mind one DCed, he repeatedly stepped in his trap trying to troll, I repaired the last generator and he rage quit.
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@Carpemortum said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/929829#Comment_929829
Those...are not that hard. I got the 4 basement in my first week of playing..
Bear traps are surprisingly easy if you know how to place them.
5 hooks in basement again, is easy. Dont camp.
The only one I see being tough is 4 gens simply because without a party of 4 you cant account for all the gens.
Jesus everyone wants CHALLENGES to be handed to them these days...
You got it in your first week of playing because you were playing against potatoes... You have to be way more precise and careful about the moves you make and that you even get a hook in the basement; most of the time experienced survivors will try and steer away from the basement if they know they’re going down and it’s a killer that can cause extreme pressure once one is in there.
Haven’t tried it yet but I’ll probably go for billy or hag. Getting 5 hooks in the basement was done first attempt though; but that’s because I paired iron grasp with agitation.
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@Thesaviour119 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/885518#Comment_885518
For the huntress is would be cool if you could duck from one hatchet per game
technically you can...
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You say thana’s trash but I run that, discordance, bamboozle & have a flex spot depending on what add ons I’m using/what survivors are bringing in - usually between I’m all ears/nurse/brutal/m&a or even lightborn if you have a team of flashlighters... and they rarely get more than 1 gen done - and I’m red ranks, so 🤷♀️
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@SupaSlay3r20 said:
I prepped mori rituals, but they all randomly disappeared. I'm very sad about it as I had to play nurse.
Mine disappeared yesterday too after being so careful not to claim them. Salty wasn’t the word. So I only have today’s. On the plus side I’ve got a bunch of level 3 challenges done and some from the level 2 too, so that’s something at least.
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@NovaliumTS said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/883460#Comment_883460
Yeh i would but im a xbox player so the messages cant be avoided i think for now im gonna play doc and give survivors atleast a reason to rage instead of getting salty over nothing
You can turn the notifications OFF if they go into the other folder, like someone else said - or go into your settings and only have it so friends message you... You could even just delete them without reading 🤷♀️
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@Troman said:
That's good to hear. Leaving the game at any point should result in a penalty, because for some people deranking is a bless and can't be considered punishment.
I would also remove suicides on hook. It screws up the game for other players.
I think that would be difficult though; what if you haven’t been hooked the entire game, and you and get off the hook as a last ditch attempt whilst your other teammate is downed/on struggle hook, and then don’t want to struggle/it lags? And on that same note, what if it lags when you’re on struggle hook and it kills you, like it’s known to do at times? What if no one comes to save you and you try and get off, go into struggle, and it lags? Just scenarios off the top of my head. Probably more... Things like that would make it tricky, and unfair if implemented.
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I’m also on xbox and barely have to queue as killer; usually 2 min max? The last time I readied up it pretty much was an instant too?
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@Blueberry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/857162#Comment_857162
To me it's the equivalent of the killer getting zero kills before all gens are done but as they are all running out the gate it shuts close blocking the last guy from leaving and the hatch spawns for an equal chance of kill or escape.
That would be a stupid scenario to have. If they got all the gens done and would've escaped I had my chance and lost, they earned that escape. That scenario would be giving me a freebie I didn't earn and I wouldn't expect it. That scenario is what the survivors currently have.
Should I get that scenario as a killer because I "tried my best"? I personally don't think so.
I know you aren’t completely, but it’s basically a killer running NOED in that scenario and then blood warden - he “hadn’t earned it”, but then slugs everyone with it because no one can escape and gets the kills because he used a one shot perk at the end. Which I have seen happen in YT videos, and might’ve happened when I’ve played survivor, but not so successfully for the killer - it works both ways, right?
there’s always going to be arguments for both sides, sometimes slugging and not letting someone get the hatch is valid, for different reasons, but not alway necessary or doesn’t mean the remaining survivor hasn’t earned it. Sometimes a killer using NOED doesn’t mean they haven’t worked hard through the entire match (I’m not a fan of it personally, but if a killer wants to use it... they can knock themselves out)... etc, etc.