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@onemind said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2436172#Comment_2436172
Because this wasn't their action. This was a decision by Netflix if this was bhvr decision the community would tear them a new one worse than the Halloween event.
The we would have another dead by boycott.
Yes, that's what both Netflix and Behaviour may have agreed to, that's right. Netflix under certain rules allowed Behaviour to execute ST content. That rule very well may have been that by the time season 4 is out, the chapter is no more for the purchase. That could have happened and Behaviour could have agreed to that.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2436163#Comment_2436163
I doubt that was the case. It makes no sense for BHVR to limit the content they have available in the game, that's literally giving people less of a reason to buy the game. And without continuous income, any business dies.
I've witnessed more than my fair share of "BHVR bad/evil/shady" conspiracy theories to fall for them. I don't expect BHVR to always do the right thing because the company is made of people (and people always screw up, eventually), but if you don't have even a modicum of trust in their intentions (if not their execution), there's really nothing they can do to convince you.
Identity V thrives on time-limited licensed content and many other games do. Dead by Daylight is successful on its own so using the same marketing won't hurt them at all if not give them more income. There are dozens of people who will be forced to quickly decide to put money in the game if their favorite character won't be available soon. You can't deny time limitation works stupidly well, there are titles that I won't name but have achieved massive income due to that.
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@onemind said:
Behavior tries not to do that limited time thing
This wasn't an action on bhvr side
They managed to keep the characters for people who allready bought them and was able to get simmlar perks from the chapter to appear to the shrine
And they gave us massive time to be able to but the chapter before it's gone
Yes, that's how an agreement to the time-limited content works, people get something during a certain period of time and keep it as exclusive items, yes, that's right.
You may pray for the BHVR's good side but what stops them from doing it more often if the sales skyrocket?
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2436109#Comment_2436109
I'm literally agreeing that it was time-limited, because that's how all licensing works. Licenses have to be renewed from time to time.
But I put it in a way that the ST license was limited from the start in a way that renewing it wouldn't be possible after the end of the agreement. It's weird how people tend to blame Netflix for everything when Behaviour could have agreed that after a while no matter what the content is gone. It may not be about money and resources, it may very well be the literal time-limition Behaviour agreed to. And the great part about it all is that they didn't need to be vocal about it since we are all under the roof of EULA.
And that's why I think that after giving players stable content they might use this opportunity to analyze how well everything sells once the community is pressured with time. And I highly believe that the income will be massive since they target the older game audience pretty well here. It's a great way to make veterans pay as well instead of sticking to their comfort content.
That's why closing eyes and believing that nothing like that ever happens again any time soon is really silly. It will happen, sure, but the tendency of it happening may change.
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@ProfoundEnding said:
Unless they want to go back on their word about having no exclusives then they're not going to do it.
This was Netflix, not BHVR. I think it absolutely crushes them that this content has to be removed. I definitely don't see this happening in the future.
Other games do it yes, Identify V has limited crossovers all the time. But BHVR is different. I just can't imagine that this is a path they want to take in the future, regardless of profit.
You literally have anniversary crowns, charms, and certain skin parts recolors from the rift though that remain exclusive.
It makes more sense if they don't want to give limited content that can be held and sold by the community. That's what they don't want. In other cases pressuring on the exclusiveness and the time limitation is what makes sales better, it's a well-known fact.
The game takes a lot of turns. There used to be times when the developers claimed that they won't bring animalistic killers, that there won't be any bright cosmetics, etc. Now, look where we are.
That's why I'm asking from a solid point of view if the matter of time limitation may play a bigger role in the game after a while.
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@Orion said:
This is how it's always worked, as far as I know: licenses are temporary and have to be renewed every so often. If either or both parties can't reach an agreement, the licensed media is pulled. However, I don't believe this was BHVR's choice.
While you may see Behavior as a fair company, there were rumors about a license end fairly long ago. Now we can see what license it is.
It's hard to believe that such a situation would occur out of blue. Right before the fourth season of Stranger Things. Licensing is a long and tedious process. Nothing happens "suddenly" if there are no issues with the ownership.
To me, it looks more like a way to advertise the new season of the TV series while giving the fanbase something to play around with for the time of its production. There's a chance that the limitation of the license could be the time it's active.
Imagine the headlines on many game news websites. "Oh, wow, time-limited ST content! Wait, what about ST? Oh wow, the new season comes out!" That's simply how marketing works.
You may have your opinion, I'm just saying the whole deal with Stranger Things could be time-limited from the beginning.
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@HaunterofShadows said:
I need to kill somebody. I NEED TO MURDERRRRRRRR
Is your life this restricting that the only place where you can fully outburst your negative emotions and aggression is this game?
Does it really help? Are you afraid of unleashing your real feeling in real life?
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@SleepyWillo said:
But look at all the clipping issues in those models?! The pristine code of this game would collapse with something so reckless and atrocious!
/s
The thing is that while your comment is sarcastic, the pieces that I mainly mention wouldn't cause a single major clipping issue anywhere. It makes the whole situation look more ridiculous.
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Legendary skins that represent other characters would work much better if they were a whole different slot in the customization menu of a character.
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@[Deleted User] said:
I hope you do realize that the wording of your opening post comes across as condescending right?
You have yourself poised as an impartial observer seeking answers from others, continuously questioning about the negatives associated with playing this game, like it's only negatives. Not to mention that simply being on this forum means you play this game yourself, and are thus not impartial, you fail to address this by forgoing any attempt to relate with your own experience. Being both hypocritical and condescending with your final question:
"Do you even want to answer this?".
I pointed out that I've been playing for many thousands of hours after a few comments. I've just written all the questioning in my head, nothing more, nothing less, it's like a talk with your inner self.
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@burt0r said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2298089#Comment_2298089
I think you are misunderstanding my comment. I didn't mean kids asking normal question including the word "why" but simply continuous asking literally only "Why?".
Like first comes a normal question like "Why is the sky blue?" And you answer the question with facts about the atmosphere, refraction of light and so on and then comes another simple "Why?" And again after every answer after that.
That behaviour is not necessarily a thirst for knowledge but becomes a source of entertainment by testing another's patience and increasingly stress them via annoyance.
Annoyance is not my goal here. If the answer can go deeper, why wouldn't you ask again?
I'm interested in knowing the answer from people who got offended by the question though but I don't think I can get a valid answer out of them. They call the game fun, I wonder what does it truly means for them. But I highly doubt they know the answer themselves because most of the time it hides beneath these unpleasant occurrences and emotions that they do not want to go through. That's probably why some replies filled with certain aggression that is a protection mechanism.
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@burt0r said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2298072#Comment_2298072
The biggest problem is that you are never satisfied with any answer and keep asking more purely philosophical questions. At some point it feels like a little kid asking "why?" Again and again just for the sake of it and not to get the questioned information. And that becomes annoying real fast.
Did you get the answer to all those "whys" as a kid though? Or were you forced to live with them, ignore them, being punished for them because no one could answer them?
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@burt0r said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2295899#Comment_2295899
From their posted picture of the Anime Evangelion, I guess they watched the show, got high and went to their favourite forum to "spread some wisdom".
The reasoning behind the post is not it at all. I wonder what happened to people who react to neutral deductions like this one so negatively.
I was in the middle of fixing a generator when all of a sudden I had a thought. "Why do I want to escape? Why do people want to escape? What's the pleasure here to achieve that goal? Why people play this game? Why do I play this game? Why do I play? Why? Why? Why?"
The anime just made me ask such questions more, nothing else. Though the comment from @Sonzaishinai really made my thought about my public identity really hard to handle, so I just threw the picture since it suited my emotional state at the moment.
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@Lefrongo said:
Damn everyone, imagine getting so angry over watching 4 people escape or not being able to escape at all and then everything seems like you just gotta question your life's existence and the reason why we go on with living. All because of a videogame, I've seen people try to be as passionate with this game making a few fair points with their criticism to bring some change, keep some balance and other qualities of the game to try and get the developers to incorporate said ideas. Sadly it just never seems to happen with every criticism they get.
Your words could be just as meaningless to everyone in this forum, I wouldn't be digging right into people's skins to try and find some answers just because you hide the meaning with your feelings with these thoughts you may be having as you question the people in here. The minute you put meaning into words you read in a monitor is only because you want them to affect you. That being said even if you're not making a huge difference to the whole world, you can change what you want about yourself to making things slightly better.
Start by changing your perception in life, because even if when there's nothing positive or negative going around you, you'll just be stuck in the same loop doing the same thing getting bored and tired of it. Things just don't change by themselves, you make that change happen if you just try hard enough to force yourself to change. Waiting for things to happen for yourself is just not the way to go.
That being said; I'm honestly not sure how long this thread will be up as it rarely brings any contribution on the game itself and it's more about emotional rambling, you should probably go get some therapy as this isn't the place to go on about it. It'd probably be more appropriate to move this to off-topic instead.
I really appreciate your advice but that's not the case here. There are countless discussions on why do people play this game. Some people simply put "fun" as the answer without going somewhere deeper. I just want to see what feelings and motives make people come back to this game over and over. For me, the answer "it's fun" is not enough. Why do you find it fun? There are very interesting answers among all the negative comments. Some people simply look for the excitement they miss in real life, some people hide in the virtual world from time to time, some people use it for better socialization with their friends, some are simply stuck at home, the list goes on. The reasons may be similar but it's still good to see the number of people in each category. So I don't really see the reason to call it off-topic if it's just a deeper analysis of the reasoning behind playing this game.
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@[Deleted User] said:
Your sentiment can be applied to all entertainment in general. Movies, books, art, games, sports, etc.
They're all distractions. Everything in life is a distraction, and then you die.
What exactly is your point?
Is distraction a key to the happiness of existing? Do you really feel this calm knowing that?
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@Sonzaishinai said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2295778#Comment_2295778
Maybe, maybe.
Not as much torture as having to act strange and confronting just to have a semblance of human conversation.
Having to dig underneath people's skin so they have to notice. Having to act condescending so they have to pay attention. So they don't just ignore again.
A lot of questions asked where the answer itself was unimportant. As long as an answer was given. As long as a response is recieved.
All i saw was a cry born out of loneliness
... All these questions are simply my thoughts that I want to continue by looking at what others have to say. I despise the concept that we can only live happily just by keeping ourselves distracted. That probably leads to the opinion that I act condescending. Maybe I dig underneath people's skin but you've decided to look into my bones right now. Funnily, even I haven't discovered such an unpleasant cause in my actions. Maybe your words don't fully represent my reasoning but the fact alone that I find the opinion pleasant because of the result you've described still makes your comment valid.
I can hear all sorts of ugly cries inside my thoughts when I analyze everything you've written. But let's leave it all to me.
Why do you still keep holding something that made you feel so lonely that you can easily see it in others though? The content of answers is still important to me to a certain degree.
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@van9684 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/259736/why-do-you-play-for-so-long
It’s oddly addicting. I only play a few hours a night with some friends if we’re all on. Right now I am on leave from work for a few weeks so I’ve been playing more but you’re right, it’s not fun the majority of the time.
What's that feeling you're looking for when you enter each time? It's not pleasurable. But addicting. How can something unpleasant be addicting?
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@Purgatorian said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2295778#Comment_2295778
You're starting to sound like a creepy cult leader lol.
What makes these words "creepy"?
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@Sonzaishinai said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2295674#Comment_2295674
You seem to be under the impression that it's one or the other. I can enjoy real life and fantasy.
Is that a strange concept? Are you afraid that if you would delve into the fantasy you would not want to go back? Are you that afraid your real life could be replaced so easilly?
Is existing enough to make you want to live in real life? Why don't you want to get away from it completely? Problems that make you run disappear that same instant when you play the game. Don't you want to live without problems? Do you simply hope for something in reality? Do you fuel your life with that tiny hope? Sounds more like torture, doesn't it?
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@Sonzaishinai said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2295674#Comment_2295674
You seem to be under the impression that it's one or the other. I can enjoy real life and fantasy.
Is that a strange concept? Are you afraid that if you would delve into the fantasy you would not want to go back? Are you that afraid your real life could be replaced so easilly?
🎶"Fly Me to the Moon and let me play among the stars..."
Ouch.
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@Sonzaishinai said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2295640#Comment_2295640
In a way, you are taking mini vacations in your head everytime you temporarily leave the real world for a more exciting one
Did you simply give up on getting anything out of this world, so you turn your head into the imaginary one?
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@Sonzaishinai said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2295545#Comment_2295545
FUN!
and others are different from me mostly because of genes. Although experience also has a big say in this.
Might not have enjoyed gaming at all if something else tickled my fancy first or people didn't exclude me from everything causing me to seek my own enjoyment.
@PatWesker said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2295312#Comment_2295312
"Yes. Real life is boring anyway. Might as well just survive and find enjoyment somewhere else."
OMG I love this answer! Isn't it the reason we love playing videogames? Or even reading or watching movies/series? We want to escape real life somehow and enter a whole new world. That is exactly why I love playing video games. I love evading and not feel any pressure of real life for the moment :)
Is running away from problems fun?
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@Sonzaishinai said:
To actually answer the question, cause it's fun.
Couple of matches a day. As long as you don't let any frustration build up This is a fun game
Elaborate on the term "fun". Some people wouldn't consider this or any other game fun. Why do you think they don't like spending time playing? Why do you enjoy it and they don't? What makes them different from you?
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@scenekiller said:
Do you ask all of these questions of others to avoid answering any of them yourself?
Unfortunately, I know my answer. Sometimes a question can be an answer on its own.
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@brokedownpalace said:
It's interesting how many people are immediately outright offended by this post.
Did you notice it that quickly since all these offended reactions feel so similar?
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@GrimmGaliard said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2295399#Comment_2295399
I have answered your questions twice, and twice you have ignored mine. You'll have to answer mine if you want any answers yourself.
Sometimes I wish I were you.
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@GrimmGaliard said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2295388#Comment_2295388
It's not nice to ignore someone's questions for your own.
But isn't it obvious that the question asks for an answer? Can you give it?
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@Sonzaishinai said:
Don't drink and do philosophy at the same time guys.
Do you hide behind humor?
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@GrimmGaliard said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2295349#Comment_2295349
Okay but: Why do you ask stupid questions?
Why don't you want to answer them then? Does this "stupidness" make it easy to answer? If not, is it really a "stupid question"? Do you hide behind the word "stupid"?
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@GeneralV said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2295355#Comment_2295355
No reason to try to change something that can't be changed. That is why I've said it, it is better to accept it.
Do you still wish to be able to change?
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@GeneralV said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2295325#Comment_2295325
Nope. It is reality and I can't change it. Accepting it is better, it is less stressful.
Did we give up?
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@GrimmGaliard said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2295319#Comment_2295319
Fun is a delightful time. I am alive, Dbd is here in my house to play, therefore it is a part of my life. Emotions aren't artificial. If the game is in my existence and I am enjoying it, then I am satisfied with my existence.
Back to my question: Why do you ask stupid questions?
Why do you consider the artificial world to be your existence? Does life fail to trigger these happy tunes of your existence? Is life emotionally starving? Why are there not enough things that can help to feel something truly satisfying?
Do you call these questions stupid since the answer is obvious? Is it really that simple? Or the simplicity of such feelings is a way to avoid the realization of something deeper? Are you feared to look into that deepness?
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@GeneralV said:
That is a lot of questions, here we go:
Why do you spend time playing this game?
Because DBD is my all-time favorite game, one that I will always hold close to my heart, regardless of my current dissatisfaction with it.
Have you actually thought about how much lifetime you have spent running, killing, hooking, repairing, healing, saving, escaping, winning, losing, feeling nothingness, feeling arrogance, feeling anger, feeling relief. Is it pleasant?
Yes, I have. And yes, it is pleasant.
What's so pleasant about it?
The uniqueness of this game and the experience it used to provide.
Do you feel satisfied when you fulfill the in-game goals while can't carry the weight of real life requirements?
Yes. Real life is boring anyway. Might as well just survive and find enjoyment somewhere else.
Do you need any sort of fulfillment? Emotional one? Is the life dull? Social one? Is the life lonely?
Yes, life is dull. And yes, it is lonely. Very lonely sometimes. But if I can't change it, better learn to deal with it.
Do you want people to notice you, be happy around you, be angry because of you? Do you wish being meaningful in someone else's life? Do you wish to be meaningful?
I know I probably will never be truly meaningful in someone else's life, so I don't really care.
Is it why you play this game for too much? Do you know why do you play? Do you even enjoy the time you spend on it? Ten hours, hundreds, thousand hours. Is it addiction? What lacks out there that you need it in this illusion of reality?
Yes, I have enjoyed every second I've played this game. And, if I could turn back time, I would have started playing DBD as soon as it released. I play it because I love it, because it provides me (or better yet, it used to provide me) with a fun and unique experience that nothing else this.
Do you even want to answer this?
I did.
Do you ever wish you had never known the answer to these questions?
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@GrimmGaliard said:
Because I have fun playing the game. Why do YOU ask stupid questions?
Fun? What's fun? Isn't life supposed to be fun by itself? Why do you find fun somewhere there? Is it the lack of emotions that you try to get artificially? Aren't we supposed to be satisfied with our existence?
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@Steel_Eyed said:
This could be an interesting conversation but I find the tone of this post condescending.
The game’s fun. Kiss my jorts.
@supersonic853 said:
Dang i thought this would be a perfect question then it just became a condescending berating post. Games fun. Like the characters. Helped me with depression. So suck it.
There's no such feeling in these words. I have thousands of hours played.
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@WishIcouldmain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2268421#Comment_2268421
The followers of Sluzzy! Her influence spreads. But on a serious note Imma guess you're new. Simply to better get your point across. Bring up more details.
I CaaaaaAaaaaaNt AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!! I'm too crushed for this..... I though noone could understand me more then @Wuzzu and now I'm all alone!!!...
But I can't give up. Otherwise memories about them will fade away. I will make you all understand how wrong you are! AND YOU TOO @HaunterofShadows
I'll take some rest and then give all reasons in the world
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QUITE!!!! Moderators killed my love, killed my future, stomped on my feelings. This is who killer mains are, they do not care about anyone, they just destroy everything, I WILL NOT FORGET
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@Wuzzu I think I want to propose at this point. Killer mains won't stop us from spreading the truth across this cruel forum, we will make it!!
Update: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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This perk is literally the worst perk in terms of being unbalanced, I made a thread about it not so long ago, can't wait until it gets nerfed!
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I get 4 kills nearly every game as the Pig, most forum members don't realize how overpowered she can be in right hands
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@DoritoHead said:
The amount of "ifs" here is hilarious.
Some killers play fair, I take that into account
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@MarcoPoloYolo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2265347#Comment_2265347
I wasn't made aware that bodyblocking is voluntarily being tunneled. Huh. The more you know. As long as the obsession keeps healing and bodyblocking for his teammates, he can make life miserable for STBL users.
Bodyblocking can simply turn against you. Healing takes time. And even if you bodyblock and heal this much, imagine how bad of a teammate you're just preventing ONE perk going out of hand.
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@Phasmamain said:
Tampered timer and crate of gears are too strong but pig is too weak in general. Yet according to the devs she’s fine
Devs are biased towards killers so that's not surprising at all.
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@Marik13 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2267647#Comment_2267647
I -PLAY- Legion! So I have a decent bit of knowledge on this killer. This killer isn't even a B-tier killer, hell in most tier lists he's barely a C-tier and usually on the bottom. Again, bad troll 1/10. Do better.
Imagine being this bad as a T3 Myers that you call such a power bad.
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@WishIcouldmain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2267666#Comment_2267666
A tier 3 Myers has an extended lunge and faster vault speed. Legion has no power in chase to help them down a survivor.
Slap some perks and you achieve even better effect.
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@WishIcouldmain said:
Legion is garbage. And in my opinion worst killer in the game.
Endless T3 Myers who doesn't even need to charge the ability. You're telling me this is weak and it's just wrong.
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@GannTM said:
Have you ever tried…you know…spreading out like efficient survivors? That counters Legion massively.
It's not really the thing, you're still basically playing against T3 Myers in a chase.
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@Bullettimegod said:
This has to be bait. Cause i can think of 5 killer perks better than bamboozle.
Bamboozle is such a meta, I can't even think of any other better perk on most killers. Sure, Nurses and Spirits don't need it but there are plenty of killers who can't get downs without it and the perk serves them kills.
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@HaunterofShadows said:
Not really.
@Dwight_Fairfield said:
Bamboozle is perfectly fine. I use it on Mikey and its amazing.
@glitchboi said:
No thanks, Bamboozle is fine.
Do you all care to explain your point? I've provided a solid evidence that certain strong places become miserable, it requires to go from a pallet to pallet too quickly leaving nothing to work with by the end of a match. Doesn't sound too powerful at ALL?