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  • @Fibijean said:
    I totally agree with you @scumrrado . I was going to propose a compromise in which you die instantly once you get to phase 2 but still get to attempt escape, but I see you addressed that in your follow-up post. For all those saying that it would be boring for the killer to have to wait, the killer would only wait like 5-10 seconds longer in this scenario. Besides, when I play killer, I don't just stand there waiting for the last survivor to die. That's a waste of time. I walk off, and see if there are any generators or pallets that need breaking nearby while I wait for the animations to play out. That way, I entertain myself, plus I potentially get a few hundred extra BPs. So a) It's not true that the killer has to just stand there waiting while they die, and b) It's also not true that the person will just get instantly downed again.

    However, I don't think that the last survivor should be able to struggle. It's 800 bloodpoints, which isn't that much, and certainly is not enough to make up for the killer having to wait 60 seconds while you farm points. And I don't think they should get struggle points automatically, either. It doesn't make sense to get points for something you didn't do, for starters, and making it into some kind of "last survivor" bonus doesn't make sense either - it's not like you just fly onto the hook as soon as your last teammate dies, you're hooked because you got outplayed in the endgame.

    If the Survivor doesn't attempt to get off the hook, that's an additional minute of doing nothing for the Killer. If they have the chance to struggle and do so, two minutes. All for no chance of actually escaping.

  • @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    M> @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @Mango_Fett said:
    I think it's mainly because they are most played (especially Meg and Claudette) due to them being the original characters that everyone owns. But yeah I do agree as I would love the other characters to get a bit more love in terms of cosmetics, but I think BHVR is trying to appeal to the majority with giving the original characters so many cosmetics.

    i know but if they really did the poll you would see that they arent the majority played its just they were around when legacy was around and people had them leveled up first but i really want to see more nea, feng, and david stuff i mean the reason this is becomin a problem is because when the store first came out they cam out with stuff then just kept coming out with stuff for dwight, meg, claudete, and jake with a few for the others here and thier and at one point i was like ######### meg has 40 something items and nea has 2 something items

    1) they’re free, keep in mind console starts with dlc (if you’re on console) Ming and Ace are normally requiring money. 2) they’re the original 4. They’re the icons of the game and the survivor faction. 3) No, they are STILL THE MOST POPULAR.

    proof? for 3

    Devstream data

    and thats proof cause?

    Because the devs have access to that sort of information and we don't?

  • I reported two profiles in Steam that had clear violations of their ToU and received the same generic "It's being reviewed" message you get from Blizzard and whatnot. For the second one, I decided to keep a link around, to see what they actually did. They did nothing. The message is just there to give you the illusion that they're doing something.

    BHVR may not give you a message, but the "I/My friend was banned" threads after each ban wave speak for themselves - things are being done.

    Food for thought.

  • @Eninya said:

    @Orion said:

    @Might_Oakk said:
    Yeah I'm not sure why they did it this way.

    It's a simple oversight.

    Did you mean... obvious?

    I said what I meant. When you're trying to balance an event, create new interaction, create new spawn locations, and so on, you can overlook things like this.

  • @Poweas said:

    @AyDoggie said:

    @Poweas said:

    @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @Orion said:

    @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @RSB said:
    All day everyday? I have 30/30 on survivor and 21/30 on killer lol

    im sorry that you are able to play this game almost all day and still get enough for them but for people like me who play by myself always get ignored when trying to get the nectar and end up dying when the killer finds me and i lost progress

    It's been two days. If he has almost completed everything, then your claim that you need to play all day every day for the entire event is false, and the problem lies with you.

    theres a defrence between xbox and pc. also screw off orion

    The difference is, that Xbox is laggier and much less toxic, I've played on both and thats what I found out. Ps4 tho, that is another thing it's toxic as hell and on top of that most the players on ps4 can't loop a killer for too long. Some are uncatchable but most aren't

    Haha, you say Xbox is less toxic? I can't even go one game without someone messaging me saying how much of a crap killer I am for tunneling every player in the game and can't even go one game without a proxy camping or face camping killer. You know how many people I reported on Xbox after they straight out started cursing at me and how many times I got a message from Xbox saying they took action on my complaint? So many times, I lost count. I had one person started calling me the N word after a game because he lost. I play mostly PC and Xbox DBD but I did play a few games on PS4 when DBD was free and I found it to be a little bit less toxic than Xbox but overall Xbox has a toxicity problem for all their games.

    On pc I get tunneled like mad and I get facecamped constantly it's less toxic when ur killer but way more toxic when ur survivor I get bm every game, on Xbox killers could take loops but these killers on PC get really butthurt rank 11 now btw. There's too much toxic killers on PC. On xbox ill admit as killer its pretty hard to play since people are toxic as hell to you and salt u up. I also main PC now too ^^

    Chasing is not toxic. Don't get found and you won't get chased.

  • Me. And I don't mean the Nurse.

  • @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @CoolAKn said:

    @Orion said:
    lol, what? Yes it [BAD WORD] did. LGBT has been a thing since the beginning of human civilization.

    I think what he meant to say was wide-spread support for the LGBT community didn't really start until the 2000s, but I can't speak for him. His statement seems incomplete.

    This. I meant support for it. Thus the characters from those time periods are less likily to be/express it

    not really i mean most people were lgbtq+ they just hid it or commited suicide because people told them its wrong and they were wrong

    That's literally what he said.

  • Perks and items aren't toxic, people are. However, toxic people tend to cluster toward certain perks and items, hence the association.

  • That sounds like a severe bug, but yes, it's possible to cheat regardless of platform.

  • I haven't played the Nurse in a while because of Coldwind Farm always popping up when I do (among other things), but you should take the losses and just keep practicing your blinks around corners. That map requires godlike precision.

  • @Jack11803 said:

    @Orion said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @Orion said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @Orion said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @CoolAKn said:

    @Orion said:
    lol, what? Yes it [BAD WORD] did. LGBT has been a thing since the beginning of human civilization.

    I think what he meant to say was wide-spread support for the LGBT community didn't really start until the 2000s, but I can't speak for him. His statement seems incomplete.

    This. I meant support for it. Thus the characters from those time periods are less likily to be/express it

    While I agree with your conclusion, the premise is faulty. Opposition to LGBT is a fairly recent (and cultural) phenomenon.

    It wasn’t openly opposed, but it wasn’t even heard of either. Except gays. And they were harassed and opposed.

    Not if you go farther than, say, 1000-1500 years (keep in mind that human civilization is about 10000 years old). It wasn't heard of because, ironically, it was accepted as normal behavior by everyone, as opposed to nowadays.

    Especually by greece. But that’s also out of time, but this time the other way around (no character is that far back, pretty sure the earliest is late 1800’s)

    Like I said, I agree with your conclusion. You are right that people are unlikely to admit being LGBT. Even nowadays this is true. However, I wanted to point out that it is a relatively recent phenomenon.
    My own country, while tolerant and progressive, has a few bad apples. Just by holding hands with my BF, I triggered some old fart to make the most disgusted face I'd ever seen.

    For a second I thought you were saying you caused a loud ass fart and this guy gave you a nasty look. I can read lol

    Silent but deadly. That's my style. It's also how I prefer to play games.

  • @Jack11803 said:

    @Orion said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @Orion said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @CoolAKn said:

    @Orion said:
    lol, what? Yes it [BAD WORD] did. LGBT has been a thing since the beginning of human civilization.

    I think what he meant to say was wide-spread support for the LGBT community didn't really start until the 2000s, but I can't speak for him. His statement seems incomplete.

    This. I meant support for it. Thus the characters from those time periods are less likily to be/express it

    While I agree with your conclusion, the premise is faulty. Opposition to LGBT is a fairly recent (and cultural) phenomenon.

    It wasn’t openly opposed, but it wasn’t even heard of either. Except gays. And they were harassed and opposed.

    Not if you go farther than, say, 1000-1500 years (keep in mind that human civilization is about 10000 years old). It wasn't heard of because, ironically, it was accepted as normal behavior by everyone, as opposed to nowadays.

    Especually by greece. But that’s also out of time, but this time the other way around (no character is that far back, pretty sure the earliest is late 1800’s)

    Like I said, I agree with your conclusion. You are right that people are unlikely to admit being LGBT. Even nowadays this is true. However, I wanted to point out that it is a relatively recent phenomenon.
    My own country, while tolerant and progressive, has a few bad apples. Just by holding hands with my BF, I triggered some old fart to make the most disgusted face I'd ever seen.

  • @Jack11803 said:

    @Orion said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @CoolAKn said:

    @Orion said:
    lol, what? Yes it [BAD WORD] did. LGBT has been a thing since the beginning of human civilization.

    I think what he meant to say was wide-spread support for the LGBT community didn't really start until the 2000s, but I can't speak for him. His statement seems incomplete.

    This. I meant support for it. Thus the characters from those time periods are less likily to be/express it

    While I agree with your conclusion, the premise is faulty. Opposition to LGBT is a fairly recent (and cultural) phenomenon.

    It wasn’t openly opposed, but it wasn’t even heard of either. Except gays. And they were harassed and opposed.

    Not if you go farther than, say, 1000-1500 years (keep in mind that human civilization is about 10000 years old). It wasn't heard of because, ironically, it was accepted as normal behavior by everyone, as opposed to nowadays.

  • @Sel said:
    Wasn't it stated that Vigo was no longer a survivor?

    Yup. Maybe he's a Killer now.

  • @Plippy said:
    But first we must find him a child so that he might live again!

    Finally.

  • @Jack11803 said:

    @CoolAKn said:

    @Orion said:
    lol, what? Yes it [BAD WORD] did. LGBT has been a thing since the beginning of human civilization.

    I think what he meant to say was wide-spread support for the LGBT community didn't really start until the 2000s, but I can't speak for him. His statement seems incomplete.

    This. I meant support for it. Thus the characters from those time periods are less likily to be/express it

    While I agree with your conclusion, the premise is faulty. Opposition to LGBT is a fairly recent (and cultural) phenomenon.

  • @Jack11803 said:

    @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @Wahara said:
    Er, my previous post shows pretty clearly that I know when a new point is being made versus when one isn't.

    But hey, it seems like you're finally starting to get it. slow clap You made a new point too, just like Shrimp did! And it's actually...not that bad. If you guys can keep this up, I'll be less of a #########. I promise. :chuffed:

    To that, I would say you wouldn't necessarily have to confirm sexuality for every single character. Some could be confirmed, some could be unconfirmed. Fan fiction people still their get their jollies and so do people like me.

    Honestly, to summarize why we don’t want this, this community is big on the “font fix what isn’t broken” and even a few word changes in the bio would introduce a game breaking big. Tis spaghetti code

    as i have previously stated multiple times that they didnt have to change anything in the game but just say who was LGBTQ+ and who was straight and it would be added to the DBD wiki and become common knowledge to older dbd players.

    The most recent time period survivor in the game is the beginning 2000’s. LGBTQ didn’t even exist. There’s your reason

    lol, what? Yes it ######### did. LGBT has been a thing since the beginning of human civilization.

  • I thought it was more like zits that the Entity needs popped.

  • Sure. Also, generators can't be progressed if they're 10% over the map-wide average generator progression. You know, to prevent tunneling. Because it's "not fun" to go for the more logical target.

  • @Wahara said:
    Bioshock disagree with you, but that's neither here nor there.

    This isn't about making a political statement. It's just simple consideration: kindness. Since when did a little bit of compassion become so damn political to people?

    Fine, this game is not a political statement.

    This game is literally about feeding humans to a godlike Entity. It's a horror game. It's rated 18+. You're going to see unpleasant ######### because that's what the game is like.

  • So you want Killers to camp because they can't see anything for 10 seconds? Or do you want to be slugged because you're gonna be a pain in the ass after hooking?

  • @Wahara said:
    The point that is trying to be made isn't that Rin's outfit is intentionally sexualized. The point is that given the unfortunate statistics of our world, it would be in good taste to DBD's female player base to give Rin a cosmetic where she isn't bloody and near naked.

    Counterpoint: a game is not a political statement.

  • @MegaWaffle said:
    I don't believe the Entity has any real form and instead simply manifest everything in its realm, from the ground you walk on to the trees that blow in the wind to the blight ridden flowers by using its powers.

    This guy is right. Everything that isn't a playable character is the Entity. The air, the ground, the moon, the trees, the hooks, the basement, etc.

  • @Rebel_Raven said:

    @Orion said:
    I call them meat, hopesicles, hook adornments, and so on.

    Reverse Christmas ornaments.

    Why reverse? They hang off the tree (hook) just the same.

  • @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @Orion said:

    @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
    but there is not one post he agrees on that's mine and he always has some bad thing to say about it usually not containing facts so i have learned to just not care what he says anymore

    Your posts are usually poorly written and contain no facts anyway. If they were better, I'd agree with them. If you could stand disagreement, you'd be able to improve as well.

    because most of them are ideas or questions that don't require facts and on the ones i do i give facts you just don't care to notice them.

    "That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
    Have you ever heard that sentence?

  • I call them meat, hopesicles, hook adornments, and so on.

  • Don't play during events if you don't want to participate in them. That's all you can do.

  • @powerbats said:

    @Orion said:

    @lyric said:
    That depends on who you talk to , I actually enjoy the event as a survivor 

    Well, I tried farming the event stuff with Survivors, and while they were more than happy to get their vials without my interference, whenever I pointed to the event hooks they just ran away.

    For the most part both sides have been pretty cool with letting each other farm, with the exception of a bunch of matches both sides lately. On killer side there's been insidious campers I mean cmon you put an offering in then camp the plants and event hooks.

    Then wonder why survivors don't trust killers or let you farm any because some jerk decided to be a jerk and get their stuff but not let anyone else get theirs.

    Well, I don't have time to go through 99 trials where people are too scared to trust me just so I can get that 1 trial where they do trust me. I'm just gonna kill everyone and hope I can get to event hooks.

  • @lyric said:
    That depends on who you talk to , I actually enjoy the event as a survivor 

    Well, I tried farming the event stuff with Survivors, and while they were more than happy to get their vials without my interference, whenever I pointed to the event hooks they just ran away.

  • @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @Orion said:
    Why should someone who was banned for hacking be invited to join a program like this?

    Jendenise who freely admits on deranking by DCing and using MLGA (forbidden 3rd party software) is a fog streamer too.

    Those things are not on the same level as straight-up hacking.

  • Here's what I learned from this event: Survivors are OK with Killers helping them complete their side of the event, but they won't let Killers hook them in return.

  • People on both sides are deranking for one reason or another, which results in longer queues.

  • @Might_Oakk said:
    Yeah I'm not sure why they did it this way.

    It's a simple oversight.

  • @powerbats said:

    @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    You hate @Orion because he doesn't agree with you?

    no because he replies to everyone of my posts and is always aginst me.

    Orion responds to a lot of my posts and doesn't always agree with me either, I don't tell them to screw off though.

    He's simply unable to accept disagreement. If you're not always agreeing with him, the problem lies with you; not him.

  • @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
    but there is not one post he agrees on that's mine and he always has some bad thing to say about it usually not containing facts so i have learned to just not care what he says anymore

    Your posts are usually poorly written and contain no facts anyway. If they were better, I'd agree with them. If you could stand disagreement, you'd be able to improve as well.

  • @RSB said:
    Survivors simply outplayed you, I do not see the problem.

    Game disconnected afterward.

  • If the game were so unstable that you think you could get banned for it, you wouldn't be playing.

  • @Wahara said:
    The distinction that race or sex is possibly more obvious than sexuality is not a valid basis to argue against the inclusion of sexuality, nor is it a valid basis to argue its inclusion would be "forced"

    Hang on, "possibly"? Are you seriously telling me that you believe sexual orientation - a personal preference, no different from liking pizza - is outwardly visible?

  • I tried to be nice, but Survivors didn't give a ######### about my hooks.

  • @Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    I let killer's get their hooks and survivors get their plants. I don't understand why some people want to be jackasses and prevent others from achieving the goal.

    I don't get it either, but now I'm just killing them all mercilessly. I tried to be nice, and it doesn't work.

  • @Wahara Honestly, the main reason I haven't addressed all your points is that the forum is very clunky and limited, and I don't think this discussion - or any discussion, really - is worth the effort. Let's agree to disagree on the salient points and leave it at that.

  • @ShrimpTwiggs said:
    Us Jakes aren't so bad as long as you don't let us near a toolbox.

    [laughs in Saboteur]

  • @RSB said:

    @Orion said:

    @RSB said:
    Also the girl from the picture looks very feminine.

    Not a girl any more, but agreed.

    So not a girl, but still very feminine. He could use a better picture.

    It's not the picture. Men and women have different skeletal structures, and no reassignment surgery or hormone therapy can change that.

  • @RSB said:
    Also the girl from the picture looks very feminine.

    Not a girl any more, but agreed.

  • You're not supposed to wiggle out every time. Try hiding.

  • @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    Is there gay, it wouldn’t say. If their trans, they’d either look like their identified gender, or a cross dresser. Basically it makes zero sense to think about adding them. One of the characters could be it and you don’t even know. You don’t see any bios saying David is straight do you?

    you do know trans means you transfer to the other gender right and wont look like the one you left anymore after it.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/845652583058456576/Td2k31gV_400x400.jpg
    does this look like a crossdresser to you?

    You don't want an honest answer to that.

  • @Vortexas said:

    @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @Vortexas said:
    Take your SJW Politicing somewhere else.

    It doens't matter if a survivor is gay or not.

    it does since its apart of lore

    No one cares.

    The only people that do care are you borderline communists on the Left that want to make issues out of non-issues.

    Don't bring political affiliation into this, ffs. What does political affiliation have to do with LGBT?

  • @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @Orion said:

    @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @Orion said:

    @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @Orion said:

    @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
    name good examples of movies with LGBTQ+ LEADS THAT ARENT LGBTQ based movies because their isnt alot from the USA thats in english.

    Wasn't there one that was literally nominated for an Oscar or something?

    if there is name it other than Love, Simon since it is the first really good american LGBTQ+ movie that was in theatrers

    Can't remember the name. I don't really care for those films, but I know there was one released very recently that got a lot of media attention.

    yeah its called Love, Simon and its the first small step to adding another LGBTQ+ movie to the very small pool of them then campaired to the many strait ones

    Found it. It's called Call Me By Your Name, released last year. Here's the link to Wikipedia's article on the awards it's won. Yes, it won so many awards that they had to make it its own article.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accolades_received_by_Call_Me_by_Your_Name

    ok so another movie. please tell me how many strait movies there are vs how many containing LGBTQ+ characters. you see the diffrence right?

    Because LGBT movies (really, homosexual movies, because the BT's are ignored) focus solely on the sexual orientation, and very few people want to see that.
    The film industry is a business. If they don't think it's worth their money, they won't make it.

  • Can you say that again, but actually spell out the words and use proper punctuation?

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