DelsKibara

@LALYTHIA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1321935#Comment_1321935
If it means you employ tactics that you know actually ruin someone's else's game, rob them of any opportunity to even play and have any fun, or present you with a fair and enjoyable challenge? Yes, absolutely.
There is no joy or honor to be had from winning a game by playing cheap and disabling people from even presenting you with a challenge. That's not an accomplishment. I can't even fathom a situation in which it would be remotely fun to kill survivors when I know they have zero chance of evading me or challenging me in any way. That is like an Olympic athlete winning the Special Olympics. Did you win? Sure. Was it remotely fair or a rewarding challenge in any way? Not really.
It makes absolutely no sense why you would desire to derive such a surface level of enjoyment, while knowingly ruining the game for other people.

I don't desire to ruin the game for someone else, but I will employ tactics that helps me win the game.

If I see another Survivor after downing one, I'll chase after them, If I could get them both downed, that makes is so 50% of their team is incapacitated and they're forced to come and save them or have them sacrificed.

If I see someone unhooked in front of me, if I play a Killer that can shut off their terror radius, I will do so and then down the person who was recently unhooked to deny their Borrowed Time. If there's an Obsession, I chase after the unhooker, if there isn't, I put them back on the hook. It's not my fault the person who was unhooking was being irresponsible, that's not me ruining the game, that's me aiming to win.

I like to have games where 0 to 1 gen gets done because that means I got rewarded for absolutely dominating the Survivors, I got rewarded for being efficient at Killing them. I can also toy with them if I want more bloodpoints, but that's just me doing my job as a Killer.

If that is "unfun" for you, maybe you should play another game that doesn't incapacitate you if the Killer is playing the game efficiently. Because not every game will always end up being "fun" for you, because fun is subjective. I play this game to win, because winning is fun. If a Killer kills me, I get frustrated at my TEAMMATES for not being there to rescue me. If they outplay me, I congratulate them.

I understand if you don't have a competitive mindset, this game certainly wasn't marketted as anything other than a casual horror party game.

But some players do, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's just a game after all. And sometimes you won't have fun playing with other people.

in I understand why so many survivors use DS... Comment by DelsKibara June 2, 2020

@TraitorousLeopard said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1321930#Comment_1321930
But to get that he would have needed to end 2 separate chases with the obsession, plus waiting out PWYF's cooldown. That's a game-throwing amount of wasted to just to land 1 hit more easily.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1321921#Comment_1321921
Tombstone Myers can straight-up murder people without losing tokens. "Offensive Action" is a weird term for it, but even though it can technically damage, I would still say that the redeemer is closer to Doc shocks and clown bottles, a means of securing a hit rather than the hit itself.

I know it's not consistent, but I think an "Offensive Action" is anything that injures or downs a Survivor, moris don't count towards that.

in Does Deathslinger's gun now remove Play With Your Food tokens when fired? Comment by DelsKibara June 2, 2020

@LALYTHIA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1321914#Comment_1321914
Gen rushing cannot be compared to any of the behavior being discussed in this thread. Its not remotely comparable. So I'm not sure why you'd even bring it up. Running out of tunneling arguments?
I, and every other survivor who doesn't feel like rewarding unskilled players with mutliple hooks, WILL continue to suicide and move on. Because just like camping and tunneling, it's well within the confines of the rules to do so.
No one said anything about disconnecting. Again, just running out of things to talk about?
And no, expecting people to play a game fairly so that everyone can enjoy themselves is not your favorite buzz word: entitlement. It's what normal, empathetic grown ups give and expect when they approach pretty much any aspect of their life that involves interacting with other people. You clearly lack empathy and any interest in winning a game fairly or enjoying a match with others. That's fine. Treat actual human beings like NPCs and play the sweaty, toxic matches of your narcissistic dreams. :)
Just don't come here and cry when people check out of your sweatfest and post the very true complaint that that play style is cheap, absurd, and ruins the game for the majority player base in this community. 👍️

I will just say this, not really anything related to the previous topic and discussion but...

Some people play this game to win, so that means doing the most "boring" tactics possible to easily secure a win.

Not everyone has to care if the other side has fun or not, I know I just play as optimally as I can without really thinking about on whether or not the other side has fun.

This has nothing to do with empathy, it's just me and several other people playing to win.

DBD isn't a competitive game, yeah, it is casual to the core. But a lot of people, myself included, play to win, and is there really something wrong about that? Wanting to win in a video game?

in I understand why so many survivors use DS... Comment by DelsKibara June 2, 2020

It's technically an "Offensive Action"

in Does Deathslinger's gun now remove Play With Your Food tokens when fired? Comment by DelsKibara June 2, 2020

You got that wrong.

It's called "Aim Dressing".

in Option To Disable Aim Assist Comment by DelsKibara June 2, 2020

@Rivyn said:
I can argue the opposite. It's not the killers fault, it's the survivors who unhooked. If the killer is close enough to even catch you straight off the hook, than the blame should be placed on the survivor who did the rescuing, especially without BT. They basically farmed you for points. Can you really blame the killer if you're pulled off hook in their face, and the rescuer doesn't at least take a protection hit, instead sprinting to the nearest pallet?
Now, I'm not saying hardcore tunneling doesn't exist, and is a pretty unfair playstyle around it. I understand in a lot of cases killers will tunnel, simply for the sake of doing it. But on the other hand, I feel at least part of the blame comes down to survivors not knowing when or how to safely rescue somebody.

Yeeep, that's why I never blame the Killer, I always curse my teammates every single time instead.

in I understand why so many survivors use DS... Comment by DelsKibara June 2, 2020

@DwightOP said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1314479#Comment_1314479
Can you explain what is fun about versing him? You like just mindless dropping pallets instant? Or that you got "outplayed" by fake pallets? U lik the slowdown forcing you to hold M1 longer or forcing you to wake up? Or do you enjoy the most when you can't finish a gen and he teleports to yours across the map to pop your 95% finished gen with pop goes the weasel?
Explain, I'm seriously curious why this kilker is fun to you.

I like having a constant threat or paranoia when facing a Killer. Especially during a chase. There are exceptions to that rule, like The Trapper (Since I don't like getting one-downed because I stepped in an unfortunate trap)

What you're describing to me is a typical game of how a game against a Killer should be, they should get the drop on you if you're not paying attention to fake pallets, they should get the drop on you if you're mindlessly dropping pallets (because news flash, snares aren't that big of a threat), they should force you under constant pressure just with their powers alone, that's one of the reasons I personally like versing Hag and Plague, and you could relieve that pressure from you, but under the risk of not getting anything done for a short while, and under the risk that he might pull you back in making all of that time wasted.

Also if a Freddy pops your generator, and he finds you immediately after, that's 100% on you and your team, and not on the Freddy. Pop has great synergy with Freddy, anyone with half a braincell knows that, so why wouldn't they use that if they want to win?

That's like saying Demogorgon shouldn't use STBFL because he can save stacks with his obsession by using his shred instead, or Nurse shouldn't use Shadowborn because an increased FOV is really useful for her especially during blinks, or Doctor shouldn't use Distressing/Monitor and Abuse because a larger Terror Radius benefits his power, or the Oni shouldn't use Infectious Fright because his snowball potential is really high.

You're quite literally asking why a Freddy uses Pop, is that boring to you? Is the meta for Killers stale? Because I sure as hell could say the same with certain Survivor perks.

If a Freddy gets Pop Goes the Weasel, that means someone got downed, if he gets that OVER AND OVER, that means your team is losing. If your team is losing, your team needs to get better at the game. I've had multiple games against Freddy where all 4 of us escaped, in solo, and some even used Forever Freddy. Just because you don't find yourself having fun versing a Killer who puts a constant fire under your ass, then I'm sorry, but you're not always going to get games against an add-onless Wraith.

I'd say with the start of Rework Freddy, the Killers are finally catching up to how they should've been all along. A constant threat for the Survivors with the ability to apply Map Pressure with decent Chase Potential. I mean, isn't The Doctor also being seen as boring by the forums lately? He has the same things Freddy has, fake pallets, a power that stops you from using a pallet, and the ability to regress generators with the right build. He also puts constant pressure under you with his Madness, which he can easily constantly reapply with Static Blast, which also reveals your location if you're not hiding in a locker or outside his terror radius.

People don't find him boring because of his kit, people find him "boring" because it's an uphill battle to win against him, that's what the word Boring is used for anyways. It's a codeword for "Overpowered" except you don't have anything to back it up. How is Freddy boring but Clown is underpowered and needs buffs? They both do the same thing, in fact I think Clown is more effective at slowing down and downing survivors with the right bottle toss, and his screen gas makes it so it's hard to see where you're going, making it easy for you to disorient where the Killer actually is, making you incredibly easy to mindgame.

Sure the one thing he lacks is map pressure, but that's Freddy's territory. Not his. Clown specializes in downing Survivors fast and end chases faster, or entrapping a Survivor with his Bottle Throws forcing them to either suck it up or take a hit. Freddy specializes in punishing Survivors who stay asleep and having a constant threat throughout the whole map, not even generators are safe from him. That's why faking a teleport works, because Survivors panic.

Personally, I know some people prefer Old Freddy over Reworked Freddy, and those people have valid arguments as to why he is more fun to play as compared to how chase heavy Reworked Freddy is. But Reworked Freddy should be a baseline on how strong a Killer is. Do I think he needs some changes? Yeah maybe, have it so that the dream timer stops if he is chasing you would be a good one for me. Because it forces Freddy to get a hit in first before he can use his power or waste time waiting for everyone to fall asleep.

But hey, the original question is why is Freddy fun for me?

TL;DR, he is fun because he makes me cautious and afraid, I can't feel cocky when facing him and I know every decision and every second I make in a chase against him counts.

in Freddy needs a "nerf" to fix how boring he is Comment by DelsKibara June 2, 2020

@Fibijean said:
Is there an "I'd prefer not to die horribly on my birthday" option?

No there isn't, pick one or I'll be there myself >:(

in Who would you invite to your birthday party? Comment by DelsKibara June 2, 2020

@Seanzu said:
But their aim is to P3 + All Perks, most people aren't P3ing a character to never touch it again.

This ^

I can't tell you how annoyingly grindy it was to get all perks on Spirit and Zarina, and now Pig and Huntress.

in P3ing takes much less than getting all t3 perks Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

The Witch

(I mean The Judge is cool too I guess but I want a Witch Killer from the Salem Witch Trials)

in Salem Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

@Kolossoni said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1320305#Comment_1320305
Yeah Yeah, I know all the ways of countering them and how they work.
It's tedious. That's my point.
PS. Sorry about the Pig statement, I should've been more clear. Free as in the addon + Jigsaw Boxes going wild when it's wrong.

I get that, I personally don't like versing certain killers either because they kinda force me to play in a way that isn't fun in my opinion.

Like Trapper. He is genuinely a weak killer but oh my god is his traps annoying.

I much rather face an Infinite Tier 3 Myers, at least I have a chance of escaping if my teammates knew what they were doing. Can't really do that with Trapper if you get unlucky and step in one of his traps.

Though personal preference aside, I think we can all agree that the one thing we want most when we play Survivor is to juke and outplay the Killer during a chase. And certain Killers does make doing that harder and easier for them, but that just means you need another strategy to beat them.

I just got off a wonderful, AMAZING game against Freddy while I was doing Kate's Sing Another Day challenge, and it honestly was one of the most fun games I've ever had in Dead by Daylight. Everyone was double hooked, I finished a gen at the last second and we all escaped almost losing a teammate because the gates spawned so close to each other.

A lot of things should've made that game a losing battle for the Survivors but we somehow got through it with a 4-man Escape, it was exhilirating and amazing.

I think the problem with Utility Killers, at least in my opinion, is that sometimes your teammates just refuse to play any other way making it difficult for you as a Survivor and easy as the Killer because they attempt to try and same strategies over and over again, which these killers definitely hard counter.

You cannot just ignore Pig's RBTs, you have to use that time trying to get it off your head.

You can spend time to run towards an Alarm Clock and wake yourself up against Freddy, but you may be wasting more time than you will probably get back if the clock is on the far side of the map.

And you can cleanse with Plague, but that will only give her access to her more powerful kit or you can risk leaving yourself one-downed as to not give her the power she wants to have.

It's all about risks, really, these killers force a second objective onto you and they pose a threat if you do not complete them in time or complete them correctly.

in I hate versing utility killers... Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

@Kaethela said:
Be happy you can go back down to T1 these days. It was a lot more annoying when you could never go below T2 again.

Honestly it was a lot worse when Snapping Out of It was a healing action for the Doc. It basically means if he 3-gens you, you CANNOT get out of Tier 3 because he will smack your buttcheeks down if he has Nurses.

in I hate versing utility killers... Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

Wait wait, Pig gets free alerts if she uses her power? She only gets that if she uses an Add-On, which doesn't mean it's free.

2020-06-01 20_54_39-Template_Add-ons_ Jigsaw's Baptism (Pig) - Official Dead by Daylight Wiki.png

Plus, I would argue it tends to be more of a hinderence to her than any kind of help, because patrolling nearby Jigsaw Boxes are always a good idea especially if a Survivor was recently unhooked.

Also, Tier 1 Madness isn't really a hinderence, like seriously, have you actually played against enough Doctors? Tier 1's skillchecks are not as frequent as Tier 2 or 3, plus they also don't really show the Doctor's aura near you meaning he doesn't have tracking over you. (At least last I checked.)

And you don't have to ALWAYS be awake with Freddy, if you're asleep, stay asleep until you need to wake up. Like if Freddy isn't nearby, then just stay asleep. Chaining both Swing Chains and Rope Swing (his two most "powerful" slowdown add-ons) only gets him 9 seconds btw, so staying asleep while he isn't an immediate threat should definitely be your top priority. You of course should wake up when you can, but when he isn't nearby, stay asleep.

Also Plague's pools are often out of the way and out of reach, even if she has that information on where you cleansed, she most likely won't go towards you because it's a waste of your time. She is only notified of which pool has been cleansed, but not where the hell you went.

in I hate versing utility killers... Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

@MrCookie said:
It's mostly all about Master challenges. Many of them require you to ditch your main objective meaning that your whole team suffers. I can't blame players because some of them are almost completely unachievable if you play normally.

Sometimes they do encourage good match habits though, like doing totems when you see them or bringing perks you normally wouldn't have brought if it weren't for the challenge.

in Events make users disrespectful Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

@LastShoe said:
All perks of the teammates should be visible in lobby. It would reduce the gap between swf and solo.

And it would help you rebuild your perks accordingly so you don't conflict with another survivor's perks and relegate yourself roles.

in Solidarity Perk Indication Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1320030#Comment_1320030
I thought it was Hallowed Blight we all loved and Cankerous Blight was the one ties to the archives?

Hallowed Blight, sorry, I mixed up two names.

in Events make users disrespectful Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

It's not a birthday party without a Clown.

in Who would you invite to your birthday party? Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

I literally notice no difference whatsoever between Badham I-V so... This I guess, it's the number I realize I get screwed over the least as Killer.

in Today's Realm: Springwood Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

@xboxkorea said:
In order to complete your mission, there are many users who only accomplish the mission and go out. The difficulty of the mission is also difficult and annoying.

Yes, that's the fun of the events, it ramps up the difficulty by giving you a second objective you sometimes had to fight over to get. That's why both Moonrise and Cankerous Blight were community favourites.

in Events make users disrespectful Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

@Xzan said:
I don't have an intense story. I just forced myself to have more interaction with the killer and had my friend rescue me during endgame. (Still took me 5 tries.) On the bright side, I finally decided to play a chase build more often.
But great story Kibara! Can I get a signed copy of your book filled with dbd storys once it's released?

Funnily enough I am writing a book right now, though it isn't finished yet :P

And no, it's not about DBD sadly.

in How did you guys finish "Sing Another Day"? Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

That isn't really anything new, the community already knows that during events there will be three groups:

Players who are targetting people trying to get Event Currency
Players who just wants to get their Event Currency and be done with it
And players who just play the game normally and not care about the event.

in Events make users disrespectful Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

@ich_häng_mal_rum said:
But their is the point when you have all (helpful) perks on all survivor, then they are only different skins and voices... then you play only your favorite skin!
It‘s very important that the abilities are not to strong, just something like a few percent or a little bonus, not like a „5th perk“.

That's the point.

You onlyl play as your favourite skin.

Survivors are not meant to have any abilities whatsoever

in Survivor are just skins! A change? Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

@JPLongstreet said:
Nearly all of Piggy's add-ons are worthless. Hope she gets them overhauled soon she needs it badly.

I would argue the Gears and Ambush add-ons are her best, and Amanda's Letter changes how you play.

I wouldn't say nearly all of her add-ons are worthless, but she definitely could have better ones.

in Let's argue: Worst add-ons. Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

I'm pretty sure the devs have said multiple times they have no plans on actually giving Survivors any form of special abilities, they really are just skins, they're not meant to play differently.

in Survivor are just skins! A change? Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

@NMCKE said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1319786#Comment_1319786
I tried to categorize each Mori Offerings into separate classes / categories!
Ebony Mori: Allows you to potentially kill all survivors before the Exit Gates are activated.
Ivory Mori: Allows you to kill all survivors once the Exit Gates are activated.
Cypress Mori: Saves you time carrying the survivor if they are on last hook.

I honestly like that idea of the Cypress Mori, basically gives every other Killer Pyramid Head's basekit.

Also would make the Mori Daillies a whole hell of a lot easier without ruining the game for Survivors.

in Ultimate Balance: Changing Keys & Mori Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

I'm heavily in favour of these changes, for both sides.

It would make keys less likely to be used during chases (which is one of the things I get annoyed about the most, since the Survivor basically has a free escape and if they are cocky, they can basically just mock you because you literally cannot touch them.) It also would make them fairer against the Killer who got a Survivor cornered, but they get a free escape because Key.

As for Moris, I like that idea. It makes it so the Survivors don't feel like they're getting robbed of Bloodpoints and Rank Pips, and it would be a nice surprise to find out that a Killer has a Mori without seeing the """"""""""""""Secret"""""""""""""" Offering at the offering screen. Plus, once they found out that a mori is in play, the remaining three survivors can scramble to try and finish their objective as fast as possible because now there's a possibility of gaining more Bloodpoints at the end of the match.

in Ultimate Balance: Changing Keys & Mori Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

They look at a lot of things we don't have access to, not just the Kill/Escape ratio.

They look at individual killers, what perks are popular with which Killler, what Maps are the most deadly and which are the most safe for the Survivors, what rank each individual Killer/Survivor are at, and how much "Fun" the game was for both sides.

Basically to put it simply, a lot of thought is put into the balance decisions for the game. The devs may have done a ton of misteps in the past, but they definitely have improved upon their act with the recent balance changes. Especially since they're now considering a new mechanic that is similar to the Endgame Collapse, but for the early game.

in What data do the devs look at? Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

Neither are fair, that is pretty much the community's consensus on this.

We all want Moris, Instaheals, even keys to be nerfed because of how much it can change the tide of the match with how little effort the other side has to put in.

in Bring back OG instaheals Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but Temple of Purgation has a ton of dead zones in the midgame if you can manage to drop pallets efficiently. Not to mention it has two basements. The Killer Basement and the Temple's basement.

in Today's Realm: Red Forest Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

in Why DBD is a 18+ (Mature) game? Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

@chase131119 said:
Four seconds is really that much of a difference to you? Personally I don't like all the noise.

In DBD, four seconds matters a whole lot more than you think.

in Discordance rant again Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

@NMCKE said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1319412#Comment_1319412
There is, but they like to keep it a secret. 😋
Here's more if you're curious about the Killer Rulebook for Survivors! 🙂❤
675: Survivors cannot use Flashlights
676: No identical names
677: Toolboxes aren't permitted
678: Keys are banned from use
977: Survivors cannot rush generators (doing their objective)
[New] 2888: Survivors cannot use Claudette

Is there a rule against using exhaustion perks?

in I tunnel Claudettes Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

@I_Teabag_Gate said:
We've been over this hundreds of times.
Tier One isn't objectively better. It makes a loud noise more often which is a downside.

That isnt why Discordance 1 is better. The less amount of time a gen is highlighted is why its better. That means you know for certain that that gen no longer has 2 survivors on it faster.

in Discordance rant again Comment by DelsKibara June 1, 2020

@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1319390#Comment_1319390
The Claudette ruined my experience too ya know. But sure, I'm the bad guy here LOL.

Playing a character doesn't ruin your experience, purposefully going out of your way to do so, is.