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@Giche said:
@powerbats said:
How is that trolling again, soon could mean tomorrow or Thursday or even Friday. If it comes this week you and the rest blasting them will look completely foolish.@Giche said:
And i don't care about the real release date, but just for this trollish post they deserve every ######### throwed at them.
They still dare to troll peoples, knowing their history ?
Can't you read ?
Coming from the peoples who said "Go play something else" ?
As the time passed, the more moronic their trolls become.
They could at least respect their customers, for once.
Rather than appease peoples they rather put some oils on the fire.
They enjoy this toxic atmosphere and are willingly creating it.
They perfectly know their community and how it will react, they willingly created this situation.
Didn't you see or hear that he apologized for that comment.
You claim it's trolling because you don't agree with something. So if there's a code glitch, it's trolling, something doesn't work out right, it's trolling etc. You automatically assume that when they do something you don't like it's trolling.
You're making a lot of baseless assumptions based upon what we use to call in the Navy a WAG. (Wild A*s Guess.) Because you assume it's done with foul intent and so you paint everything with the troll brush.
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@Giche said:
@Tsulan said:
I agree. That trolling backfired.
Deserved.
And i don't care about the real release date, but just for this trollish post they deserve every ######### throwed at them.
They still dare to troll peoples, knowing their history ?
[BAD WORD] them, sincerely.
And [BAD WORD] the review bombers, community of entitled brats.
How is that trolling again, soon could mean tomorrow or Thursday or even Friday. If it comes this week you and the rest blasting them will look completely foolish.
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@DarkWo1f997 said:
powerbats said:Then survivors will simply tap it or gen rush even harder and you'll see nothing but Tool Boxes with gen progression addons and perks.
Then they won’t have any perks for survival. Your point?
And trust me buddy, gen regression won’t worsen gen rushing. Theres nothing that can be done to lessen gen rush currently.
Dude did you even read the post? THEM TAPPING GENS IS GOOD FOR KILLERS it makes regression faster and faster and faster. It’ll get to the point where the killer can stand next to it for 10 seconds and the progress bar will be all the way down to 50% from 99%.
They can bring whatever they want it doesn’t matter I run FD at all times. They won’t have anything if I whack em’.
What you think they will will refrain from gen rushing to go easy on us? These are survivor mains we are talking about here buddy. The dip-dip-potatochip disciples. Trust me, no survivor on this god green earth won’t gen rush out of sympathy for the killer.
Who says they won't have survival perks, that's just wishful thinking for arguments sake. You swap out 1 perk or go with Leader aka Dwight etc. You didn't read apparently since you can tap it it better by just hitting the gen and doing it for 5 seconds.
What you really want is a free Ruin that lasts, not something to help with en rushing. Well just to be clear the devs have stated they're not doing something like this. Since with your suggestion it'll be all Billy's Nurses more than before since high mobility means run around and do nothing but smack gens.
Why bother going after a survivor when you can just drag the game out forever by doing nothing but gen smashing. If you'd bother to read the forums suggestions like this have come up repeated and been shot down repeatedly .Most often with sound reasoning for the good ones.
Oh and nowhere in your post did you say tapping would make the progression go faster negatively.
@DarkWo1f997 said:
seriously it feels futile to damage generators that are being gen tapped repeatedly. Why not just make the regression 5% faster each time it is damaged so that survivors have to actually be strategic about it? -
@Dabrownman1812 said:
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There is no fear if you have a greater chance to live than to die. Survivors want a game of tag, pg e for everyone stuff.
Spoiler alert, making sweeping generalizations that have no basis in fact make you look foolish and as bad as those you say are wrong. Most survivors want an actual challenge and a game based upon evading the killer. We graduated elementary school (most of us if this forum is any indication that is) a long time ago. So no most survivors don't want a game of ring around the rosie.
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
I don't think Self Care needs a nerf. DS and SB are what need nerfs. Thankfully, we can be kissing DS goodbye with this upcoming patch, and hopefully we can get a better nerf to SB (exhaustion change was unnecessary imo). Getting cheesed out of a hit because someone tapped the run button is quite stupid.I consider those 2 perks to be more of a burden. Self Care doesn't bother me, I'm very hard to escape anyway
As you always say.
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@Wigs said:
@Wicked_Doggo said:
I don’t think you understand what a strawman is.You wrote an intentionally oversimplified statement that does not accurately surmise any of the reasons people are frustrated while simultaneously dismissing them. Yep, I'm thinking it checks out, lad. 😉
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No what's amazing here is that you all believed a rumour being spread around and are now mad at BHVR for not squashing said rumour. So going by your logic everytime there's a rumour anywhere anytime they need to squash it immediately.
Do you not see the bad reasoning there since if they do it once they'll be responding to thousands upon thousands of rumours being spread. It'd be a complete waste of their time. They said they had no release date yet which means.
THEY DON'T HAVE A TIME ESTIMATE ON WHEN IT WILL BE READY.
If they'd said This week then had to delay it to fix something you'd all throw a huge fit and say they were being dishonest and not forthcoming etc.
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Then survivors will simply tap it or gen rush even harder and you'll see nothing but Tool Boxes with gen progression addons and perks.
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@Elegant said:
@powerbats said:
@SovererignKing said:
As long as I’m not waiting a freaking month after PC release. I’m good.Most of the community is fine with waiting to make sure everyone gets it at the same time. The only ones with issues are the trolls starting flame bait threads, conspiracies, and those that're impatient.
No we aren't. It's stupid to force anyone to wait longer than they have to for the update. PC should't be forced to wait an extra week or two just because consoles take a while to allow the updates. What they should do is make sure that consoles get the update in as little amount of time as possible.
As a pc user I have no problem waiting for it to be done when it's ready. If I've got to wait an extra day r 2 or w/e for it to be ready for all platforms then so be it. It's not the end of the world, it's not BHVRs fault they're trying to be fair.
If you and the rest are so worried about how long it's taking then go buy a pc for all the console users and give BHVR the receipts so they can release it now.
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@fcc2014 said:
Grey87 said:@Might_Oakk said:
console players "entitled", "whiny", "impatient" and now pc players are doing the same thing after just one hour?
Pepperidge farm remembers.
I'm a pc player and I don't care.
And I'm pretty sure console players like you are also whining with all the crybabies on pc right now.
Nope too busy playing Spiderman!
Apparently some PS4 users aren't able to since the game came out after Avengers: Infinity War.
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Instant death should still happen but the person should also get the struggle points, perhaps basing the amount on what they contributed to the game. So that the person who hid in lockers al game and did no gens, totems, helas, unhooks etc doesn't get any or little.
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@SovererignKing said:
As long as I’m not waiting a freaking month after PC release. I’m good.Most of the community is fine with waiting to make sure everyone gets it at the same time. The only ones with issues are the trolls starting flame bait threads, conspiracies, and those that're impatient.
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@Zarr0ch said:
PC players getting salty LOLMost pc players don't care and the only salt I'm seeing here is from PS4 users who have to post about it on the forums. But then again most PS4/Xbox users are like most PC users, we don't care and we don't come to the forums to start troll bait flame threads.
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@TheLegendDyl4n1 said:
idk ######### i put that thier for
Because reasons unbeknownst to you on a galactic scale mind controlled you to do so.
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@Brady said:
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@mcNuggets said:
I completely agree, but once again the dbd devs are listening to toxic survivor mains.
So it isn't going to get nerfed anytime soon sadly.Yep they're listening to toxic survivor mains argument again when clearly that's not the case. Just like with the SB nerfs where some killer mains used that excuse. The devs have stated they want to get it done right, oh look they're caving to toxic survivor mains again.
SB nerf comes through, well they didn't enrf it hard enough despite getting what was asked for. DS nerf same argument used by some killer mains toxic survivor mains and review bombs will keep them from doing it. Ds nerf is hitting with this patch.
Hey, that's not the case at all. SB needed a nerf, DS should be removed, alot of these things are agreed upon. You just so happen to listen to the minority who act "salty" and "toxic" the most. I think the majority do on this forum.
Anyways, my point ultimately, was to say healing is not the problem, although may looking like it, it just isn't. Ihe main problems are gens & chases in this game. I just think people are masking the broken core with saying most perks are unbalanced.
They did need a nerf yet some on the killer side used every excuse and insult under the sun to say why they weren't happening. I agree with DS, perhaps not being removed but it definitely needed a nerf. I only pointed out the salty minority because the person i responded to was from said minority.
The issue with SC isn't the heal itself since it can be negated to an extent but with people abusing it healing 2 feet from killer on other side of pallet/window. Yet the vocal minority complains that it needs to be removed from the game.They basically want no healing at all not even medkits if they're completely honest.
The changes to it that I and others proposed that if it gets stopped it resets are a good balance yet to the minority they'll get what they want no more heals in front of killer then still complain it's broken.
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@mcNuggets said:
I completely agree, but once again the dbd devs are listening to toxic survivor mains.
So it isn't going to get nerfed anytime soon sadly.Yep they're listening to toxic survivor mains argument again when clearly that's not the case. Just like with the SB nerfs where some killer mains used that excuse. The devs have stated they want to get it done right, oh look they're caving to toxic survivor mains again.
SB nerf comes through, well they didn't enrf it hard enough despite getting what was asked for. DS nerf same argument used by some killer mains toxic survivor mains and review bombs will keep them from doing it. Ds nerf is hitting with this patch.
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@Orion You just need to post the @DocOctober Meme.
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@RSB said:
@powerbats said:
You're obviously not worth debating over this, Marth went in with a predetermined outcome in mind. I could post my documentation yet you'd still deny it and say I made it up.Also nice Straw Man there saying I'm asking the devs to remove a skin from the game.Since others in this thread have commented on Laurie having issues more than others I guess that means they also want Laurie or her skin but not all her skins removed from the game. Now do you realize the foolishness of your statement?
Oh and I didn't realize that videos weighed tons, or that now that you agree with something eh says his words mean something. Yet when a streamer evena popular one says something you don't like it's oh they're just a streamer or that's just 1 persons opinions etc.
So the question becomes do a steamers words matter or not, just so from this point onward there's no saying something different.
And I'm not worth debating over this? Look at your post.
Go back and read what I posted and what others have posted, go look at the poster i quoted who said they knew i was joking. Marth also had some flaws with his experiment but I want to watch all the videos so I can point it out with absolute clarity.
You're not worth debating if you're going to assume despite clear evidence to the contrary I wasn't asking for Laurie to be removed from the game.
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@marth88gaming said:
Heavens no I don't take offense in anyway.. I am a crap survivor compared to many others out there. The thing apparently people don't tend to understand is we did the ONLY thing we are supposed to do is GENS. You know that one objective that is the only objective.... The thing that apparently according to many survivors don't do and because survivors don't DO the objective they die and then they call us try hards for killing and when we fail they call us losers and ######### players etc? It is funny coming from them because they are the power role. They either let us beat them by making enough mistakes for us to capitalize or they didn't make mistakes and dominated... A lot of killers have to get good at capitalizing on the mistakes when presented to them. THIS is what makes a great killer.Edit: Also you don't have to be a SWF group to do what we did... Just play smart and do oh whats the word..... GENS!!!!!! Here is a little tip for what we taught one of our members that was not a diligent as slamming gens... Being chased? Run the killer. Not being chased? Do gens! No one hooked yet? Do gens!!! Someone Hooked and you see someone else going for save DO GENS!!! it is really not that HARD lol. Now you will get boosted animals as survivors that will just go down over and over again.... farm the benevolence and move to the next game.. A lot of solo ques survivors play stupid, but trust me I have seen my fair share of death squads too in solo play.
Thanks for the response and wasn't trying to be rude just that as a Streamer you're held up to a God like standard. This isn't fair to you nor the community as a whole since you're considered representative of us all. Some people on both sides have put you on a pillar so they can use you as a backdrop for their arguments.
I play both sides and even when going up against full 4 man sfw that can loop me endlessly I still have some fun. I learn from those experiences on how to counter it better and when to break off that chase. I learn how to be a better survivor and not make mistakes. I suck at looping and if i try it i'm usually caught within a minute or less. It doesn't fit my playstyle t all and there's others who're the same.
I've been in full solo queue games where we just destroyed the killer and no one got hooked and or sac'd. We just flat outplayed the killer. But i've been in other games where the killer just flat outplayed us, it wasn't due to mistakes they just chose the best killer and perks. They took advantage of the map and gen locations, they knew where every pallet and safe spot would be.
I'd love for their to be something besides just gens to do so that both sides get longer games and more enjoyment but that hasn't happened.
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Yes because Marth is a good representative of the DBD community average gameplay. Oh and 4 top gamers worldwide on voice comms already having discussed pre game what they're going to do.
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@Orion said:
@powerbats said:
@Orion said:
@CornChip said:
Run bond for a few games and you will see the dumbest stealthy survivors hiding in lockers crouching in bushes doing nothing while you run the killer around across the map... That's what playing stealthy does to you.. You gotta have a healthy mixHiding while doing nothing is not stealth. Play a stealth game or two to understand what true stealth is.
This +100 true stealth isn't about hiding and doing nothing, that's basically just griefing your teammates and leeching off them. If you want stealthy play that's sneaking around the killer when they're close. It's about sneaking that Hex totem under their nose or sneaking past to safety.
I think @Orion and may'be @SovererignKing have posted some videos of really good stealth play, I've got some recodred as well I'll have to upload.
I have never posted a video on this forum, or at least none that I can recall. I have, however, shown stealth gameplay on my stream, many months ago. I often go unnoticed by Killers even when they're walking past me out in the open.
Ok thanks for clarifying that, I know you did the streams but I can't remember who else posted videos. i'll try and post some alter today of what I at least consider stealthy gameplay.
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I will never sit here and claim to be the most perfect person. I'll always be the next person to admit my mistakes because when they occur I have to race to be in the top 10 to do it but I never, not once make my issues personal with individual members on this forum. You have. That's the difference.
**Well that's nice but you did seem to take it personal, if not then apologies. As far as me taking it personal again you're way off base with that. The difference is i know i'm not taking personal you don't. If I was taking this personal with you or anyone else there'd be no doubt. There's also be an immediate forum ban and or jail bars around my name if i was taking it personal.
Let there be no doubt about what em taking it personal would be, the mods would instantly nail me. That's not a threat in any way shape or form. Just a statement of fact and one line I'll never cross on here. I'll trade barbs and such along with good natured ribbing but I won't ever make it personal.**
People on this forum read what I say and make me the issue. "You're so mean/negative/angry/upset/etc" and use that as a device to police what I say. They never attempt to refute what I say. Of course I'm bitter about this game. I'm honest about it. And I refuse to apologize for that.
While true and both sides do it even me sometimes when I'm ribbing or just being way too acerbic/sarcastic. As for being bitter about what you perceive the problems to be, don't apologize for that. You wouldn't be you nor would you be able to offer anything constructive if you didn't care.
It;s a common trend with gaming companies to disregard consumers who disapprove of their actions. Well that trend started to change when we spoke up about lootboxes with EA, the Creation Club with Bethesda and for what it's worth I choose to speak up about how Behaviour shows blatant favoritism to a portion of their consumers and treat the other portion like garbage.
**I remember those well and spoke up loudly about it on EA's forum and got a temp ban for my ahem post about the issue. I don't think BHVR is showing blatant favoritism at all, I think they made some mistakes. If you look at it from afar and impassionately the base coding and changes from that point started it all rolling.
@orion I believe had said that the game used to be balanced before they added in pallets (?) or something like that. After that trying to change things only made it worse. Now they're finally starting to tweak things back to where they need to be direction wise. Will it happen fast enough no, that's not going to happen nor should it. It'd be way too disruptive to completely balance the game all at once.**
When they fix that behavior I'll be glad to shut up about it.
You don't have to shut up about it since new issues will always crop up each time there's a change and you might notice something someone else doesn't..
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You aren't the arbiter of justice in this forum. You aren't the spokesperson of the downtrodden privileged who review bomb a game over a patch they disagree with. And you definitely aren't objective in the least. If I said the North Pole was due north of here you'd make an extra effort to pull out your patented jifffy 'hard data' to show how it was 5 miles from Australia. Simply on the basis I was the one who stated the fact. That's the difference. You're contrary to be contrary.
Again with the false equivalencies that only you seem to see that aren't rooted in facts. You claim I'm not something which I'e never claimed to be yet turn around and imply I'm stating such. That last part while funny isn't even close to being 100% accurate. While I'm certainly biased who isn't on here, yourself included or anybody on this forum. I do still try and be as unbiased as i can be. Oh sure I'll post some sarcastic stuff and throw out some of the same stuff killer mains do to make a point.
As my previous post said, I have no interests in anyone's personalities here. I am here as a person who has not only purchased 5 copies of this game to go on several machines but a person who was here before this game was even a game as a backer of it. Not that my opinion means any more than any other person here but I will speak it freely. I am thoroughly unimpressed.
**I'm not worried about personalities here, I've met and dat with pretty much all types, both in person and ingame and forums. How many copies you've bought is irrelevant really and i've been gaming since long before you were even born. That doesn't make my opinion more valuable than yours or anyone else's. It also doesn't lessen either, it's simply my opinion.
You're just as fee to voice your opinion as anyone else and while you may be unimpressed that doesn't mean everyone else is. It just means that you as an individual is unimpressed whereas another person might be impressed. It doesn't invalidate your opinion but neither does it validate it overall.**
As any other consumer of a product I will make those opinions known. I don't expect perfection, but i do expect an effort. What I've seen for over two years is the opposite off effort. One part of this game I can do in my sleep. It's unrewarding and infantile. The other side, pure frustration and annoyance. Frustrating just to be frustrating. Artificially difficult because if it was fair the one side that has it made would rain down death threats and review bombs and toxicity like they've done numerous times.
**For the former agreed, that's a given with any product people buy or in this case rent the rights to play their digital property. As far as the 2 years go from what one or more of the killer mains have said is that they recently as in last 9 months or so. They recently bought back the full right to the game from the prior owners.
Now they have a roadmap out along with planned changes and while the changes haven't been smooth nor as fast as wanted. Most of the people on here agree that's it's a step in the right direction. Now for the death threats and review bombs just stop, both sides have extremists that do this and if you remember it was a certain toxic streamer that said go review bomb the game. There was also a high profile streamer that killer mains including you swear by who said the patch was bad.
So bad stuff came out and as I posted about there was quite a lot of bad reviews that had ZERO to do with the patch. Such as no dedicated servers, no report fixes, a ton of bad reviews from PS4 users. Who were complaining about the patch and no servers being up. There was also a bunch of negative reviews from FTP people quite a few with under 1 hour played or not even 5 minutes.**
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The simple fact this game, it's community, it's spokespeople have become a meme in themselves "Pretty good job so far" says how far it's gone.
**While true to an extent I also feel that the most extreme elements on both sides give it that reputation. You know like a certain douchebag streamer who's no on PS4. You get them on both sides and unless and until they get insta banned across all platforms it'll continue. On the other side are those that're highly motivated and opinionated but passionate about the game.
On the killer side you, @SovererignKing @Tsulan @Giche @Master( @Jack11803 I think) and some others while not always immune to trolling. You're all at least passionate about the game. On the survivor side there's a bunch too. We all throw out the occasional barb and insult as well as some highly sarcastic stuff. But at the same time we also sometimes have some really good ideas pop up from all the back and forth we toss out.**
You can sit there and advocate for the status quo if you'd like. I expect no more from people who benefit from inequity. It;s been the cornerstone of human nature to be blind to what goes on in an atmosphere of unfairness if they stand to gain something. That's not new, nor will ever change. But to sit there throwing rocks at people for nothing is the issue.
I don't want the status quo, if you look at my posts quite a few of them all acknowledge this and state ways to improve things. As far as throwing rocks at people I'm responding to when people throw out insults usually or some blatant stuff like 100 % of my lobbies are 4man swef/ds/fl etc. Now granted I can get heated with some of my responses and I apologize for that.
My original post you responded to was not directed at anyone in particular, least of all you, you took it upon yourself to make that one into this spitball fight. I ignored, the joked it off but then you invoked everyone in some attempt to be some authority figure. You aren't.
I never tried to pick a fight with you and you sadly took it that way and I didn't bring others into it to make it some authoritative thing. I've also never claimed I'm one so just stop right there because that's a dead end and has no basis in fact. Now that's been stated clearly you shouldn't bring it up anymore since it's not accurate.
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@Mycroft said:
I'm going to break this down my responses in parts since after I wrote that I realized I wasn't clear on some part that I should've been. I also worded some things wrong and through some stuff in that wasn't needed.
I've never once told anyone to be quiet on this forum. In the few hundred or so posts I've made feel free to highlight them and show me. I have, and consistently will point out a prevailing sentiment among many who have played this game with any regularity. Apropos to the thread it's on, people consistently telling me how broken killers are supposed to be, consistently for 2 years and a month not adapting to Nurse, how blatantly obviously easy one side of this game is compared to the other.
**If I was thinking of someone else then I apologize since as you well know both sides have their ahem vocal be quiet posters. I agree with the prevailing sentiment, most of it anyways that killers are vastly underpowered. I've stated on many occasions that I think they need buffs and have given ideas on how to do it without breaking things.
I've adapted to pretty much every killer in this game although Doctor on gideons can be burnt to a crisp. My only issues with nurse are the extra blinks beyond 3. If she wasn't able to ignore the mechanics of the game completely it wouldn't be such a big deal. I feel those extra blinks are just as bad as DS. They're like training wheels and encourage bad play.**
It's well documented to anyone who has spent any significant time in this game what's what. If you disagree in what form or in what ways, fine but everyone knows this game is not what it claims to be. There are Youtube videos galore, reddit posts, forum members far less abrasive than myself that have said it for the longest time. No one listens.
I agree the state it's in and want it to get back to it's roots which should be a stealthy style of gameplay. Where the object is to evade the killer, not run around and loop him into oblivion then tea bag him. I want it to be a true horror game where you want to hide, that big 300 pound behemoth isn't someone you're supposed to point your finger at and then say come get me.
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@Orion said:
@CornChip said:
Run bond for a few games and you will see the dumbest stealthy survivors hiding in lockers crouching in bushes doing nothing while you run the killer around across the map... That's what playing stealthy does to you.. You gotta have a healthy mixHiding while doing nothing is not stealth. Play a stealth game or two to understand what true stealth is.
This +100 true stealth isn't about hiding and doing nothing, that's basically just griefing your teammates and leeching off them. If you want stealthy play that's sneaking around the killer when they're close. It's about sneaking that Hex totem under their nose or sneaking past to safety.
I think @Orion and may'be @SovererignKing have posted some videos of really good stealth play, I've got some recodred as well I'll have to upload.
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@Orion said:
You are asking the devs to remove a skin from the game. Survivors are skins, and nothing more.People also showed support for the results in marth's experiment, which you also dismissed. I think we've found the root of the problem when it comes to your inability to accept imbalance: you. Because all you care about is your preconceived notions, regardless of what other people demonstrate to be true.
So apparently the intense sarcasm of the entire post flew by you somehow yet others caught on just fine. So no i'm not asking the devs to remove a skin from the game. Nor were any of those who agreed with me.
I mean @Giche even stated he knew i was joking but you had to try and bring in things entirely not dealing with the thread. Which again is the height of hypocrisy since you said in another thread lets keep the logical fallacies out of the discussion and on topic.
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I know you are joking but this particular case...
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Happenned to me multiple time, and i still can't understand how someone can dedicate their time just to screw others lobby when this one haven't launched yet.My god these "peoples"...
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You're obviously not worth debating over this, Marth went in with a predetermined outcome in mind. I could post my documentation yet you'd still deny it and say I made it up.Also nice Straw Man there saying I'm asking the devs to remove a skin from the game.
Since others in this thread have commented on Laurie having issues more than others I guess that means they also want Laurie or her skin but not all her skins removed from the game. Now do you realize the foolishness of your statement?
Oh and I didn't realize that videos weighed tons, or that now that you agree with something eh says his words mean something. Yet when a streamer evena popular one says something you don't like it's oh they're just a streamer or that's just 1 persons opinions etc.
So the question becomes do a steamers words matter or not, just so from this point onward there's no saying something different.
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@Orion said:
@powerbats said:
@RSB said:
@powerbats said:
As the title says people that play ehr seem to have this need to either quit the lobby at 6 seconds thereby locking 3 people into getting screwed. They also seem to at an abnormally high rate rage quit the instant they get downed or find out the killer. There's also certain players who seem to do this with regularity and if I know them in my lobby I warn everyone else and dodge."That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
That which can be asserted by documented evidence may not be dismissed a being without evidence. As you'd know if you'd read the earlier posts before yours. I had a running log just to track dc's that happened the moment the killer downed someone.
Which is why i said Laurie's had a 10x higher rate of dcing compared to other toons. That was just over 100 games tracked. I'm tracking all my games both sides now with screenshots for better data collection.
Through 15 games survivor side it's 1 Laurie and 1 Jake. i'm also tracking maps and killers for a breakdown to see if there's correlation by map/killer/other survivor choices. This is at ranks 1-3 currently.
I wish this logic applied to marth's experiment, or any player's experiences that you always dismiss in favor of what you already believe.
Documentation versus a person going for a predetermined outcome and using controls to ferret out personal bias. Since I had documentation of 100+ games and not any personal bias used. When you or someone else on here claims most or all your games are 4 man swf games with 4 dds/fl/sc/sb you're own biases are there.
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I do find it funny that you say that but if you look at certain posts of yours as well as others you usually agree with. You've never said the same thing in responses to them when they get responses like that. I've called out people on both sides.
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@Mycroft said:
Understand this, and this will be the last time it's spoken. When you become a mod or a community manager of anyone officially related to this game you are no better than anyone else here. you are not in charge of moderation on this forum, nor is it your responsibility to police what people say.
I am a full fledged adult with my own opinions. If you do not like those opinions then feel free to take issue with them, discuss why. But no, you will not tell me, or instruct me or act as if you are speaking for other people in order to make ne shut up because of your personal issues with me.
From henceforward I will will just flag them and thoroughly expect the ones responsible to do their job.
This is as civil and as nice a response as you will get from me.
If you want to be regarded as serious then act that way. But you are none's boss on this forum. Understand?
So just to be clear you obviously missed the sarcasm in my post yet when you do the same you get on peoples cases. I responded to you in the same fashion you did to me yet you're now offended by it. It's ok for you to talk that way but should someone else do it to you then there's a problem.
Do you not see the apparent hypocrisy of saying one thing and then turning around and doing the exact opposite? If I become a mod or cm I'll never consider myself to be better than anyone here nor do I now. I'm merely another person on here with my own thoughts and opinions.
I'm not trying to police what you say and that you think that is an overreach considering you and others on here have no issue in basically blasting those that dare to post an opinion you don't like.
I'm a full fledged adult as well and I'm over 50 and nothing said on here insults me in anyway shape or form despite constant attempt to by some on here. When you've had an opinion I disagree with I've said so and when you'd said something I agree with I've done the same.
I'm not telling you to shut up but obviously you feel that way yet have no issue doing the same to others or when others who usually agree with you do the same. I don't have any personal issues with you and in fact you've got a long way to go to get under my skin so to speak.
I actually respect people that have different opinions than mine but when they basically troll or insult then I'll speak up. I don't always agree with some on here but I still respect them for the most part and their opinions.
If you want to flag me then by all means do so, I'm not worried about what may or may not happen since if they feel I've crossed the line they'll act. If they don't they won't, but to say you expect them to do their job just because you don't like what's said doesn't work that way.
If you want to be treated as an adult as you say then act it, don't go insulting people on here, don't go ordering people around. Don't go assuming people are trying to boss you around.
But especially don't say something not to do then turn around and do the same thing.
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@RSB said:
@powerbats said:
As the title says people that play ehr seem to have this need to either quit the lobby at 6 seconds thereby locking 3 people into getting screwed. They also seem to at an abnormally high rate rage quit the instant they get downed or find out the killer. There's also certain players who seem to do this with regularity and if I know them in my lobby I warn everyone else and dodge."That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."
That which can be asserted by documented evidence may not be dismissed a being without evidence. As you'd know if you'd read the earlier posts before yours. I had a running log just to track dc's that happened the moment the killer downed someone.
Which is why i said Laurie's had a 10x higher rate of dcing compared to other toons. That was just over 100 games tracked. I'm tracking all my games both sides now with screenshots for better data collection.
Through 15 games survivor side it's 1 Laurie and 1 Jake. i'm also tracking maps and killers for a breakdown to see if there's correlation by map/killer/other survivor choices. This is at ranks 1-3 currently.
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@Giche said:
@powerbats said:
As the title says people that play ehr seem to have this need to either quit the lobby at 6 seconds thereby locking 3 people into getting screwed.I know you are joking but this particular case...
Happenned to me multiple time, and i still can't understand how someone can dedicate their time just to screw others lobby when this one haven't launched yet.
My god these "peoples"...
Somewhat yes but I've noticed when playing Piug/Trapper if it's a Laurie and they're the obsesion they quite often dc right at start. The pic is from last season I think and they dc'd instantly since they spawned near a trap. The other survivor with her confirmed it and was laughing the entire time.
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@Mycroft said:
@powerbats said:
@Mycroft said:
At this point we're about three patches away from survivor gameplay being click and win. And then maybe these low achievers can feel some self worth after we lower the bar to the pits of hell for them.At this point we're laughing our rears off because of all your non stop salt posts and threads. For someone that says they're not going to play anymore you sure do spend a lot of time posting salt here. 😜
Dear Stan,
I just hope this letter reaches you in time before you hurt yourself. I think that you'll be doin' just fine If you relax a little, I'm glad I inspire you, but Stan why are you so mad? Try to understand that I do want you as a fan.
Dear Stan looking in the mirror, I'm glad I was able to get through to you finally, you actually posted something that wasn't a salt filled rant fest for once. The forums thank you for finally coming to your senses and we definitely don't want you as a fan.
Sincerely yours, the rest of the forum, we've got enough salt from certain others on here.😎
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@Vankruze said:
@ChesterTheMolester said:
RuneStarr said:Laurie's are always the one that farms the ######### out of people on the hook and the biggest sandbagger from my experience.
Plus all that rage quit when they get downed/miss DS, typical toxic junk.
Remove Laurie. Replace with Loomis. Thx.Not to mention the near 100% DC rate upon missing their Decisive strike.
I use DS i don't DC if I miss it so no not 100%.
ok so 99.999999999% 😜
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@not_Queen said:
DS is getting the planned change in the next Mid-Chapter patch. You can consult the latest Q&A session. We had a short talk about it! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaSgsFdGbwjfdawl3rOXiwQ EDIT: GrammarThanks for the update and now everyone knows.
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@Mycroft said:
At this point we're about three patches away from survivor gameplay being click and win. And then maybe these low achievers can feel some self worth after we lower the bar to the pits of hell for them.At this point we're laughing our rears off because of all your non stop salt posts and threads. For someone that says they're not going to play anymore you sure do spend a lot of time posting salt here. 😜
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You have dailies and if done right you can sabo it to say 99% and when killer brings someone to it drop it. It's pointless to sabo it to 100% since it respawn in 3 minutes anyways soon rif using Hang Man's Trick. While you do get bp often times it's not worth it.
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@Iceman said:
@powerbatsit is already bad enough that I get lobby dodge when playing certain characters and especially with her. I am trying to prestige her at the moment.
I understand killers frustration but it sucks because not all players play the same ways. I do not even use ds when playing Laurie at the moment. Ds nerf is coming next month and sc is getting nerf as well so I can not wait to see how the game changes.
Oh same, I ran it on ehr just for the darn adet achievement and right after lobby was 3 Megs and a Nea, Nea left 4th Meg joins. The killer instantly dodged even though only 1 person had an item and 3 were readied up.
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@RSB said:
I agree on this. Nobody (maybe except for some individuals) were crying over this. This is just a lie... We should not spread the community even more - on PC users and console users.
Is it fair to release content first for the PC, and then for consoles? Nope, as well as releasing this first on consoles, then on PC. This is a thing we can't change, because platform as Steam, Sony and Xbox have different policies due to releasing content, so when on Steam, let's say, you just upload an update on the servers, then Steam checks: "Hm, looks okay. Accepted", on consoles it may take days, months more and vice versa.
We should not blame the devs, nor other users for it, because it will take us nowhere.
Thank you, it's sad that a vocal few on both sides have nothing better to do than try and start flame wars and then when called out on it act like children.
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@Boss said:
DCs."All Generators repaired" sound effect
"Finally can do that Mori at the end now. I'm so exci-"
disconnect sound effect+1 rep for today
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@karimew said:
I see all kinds of people rage quit or leave. The character they are playing has nothing to do with that and the fact you think it does is kind of funny lolPeople are going to do what they want. If they want to dc then they are going to, it has nothing to do with them being feng or nea or meg or laurie or dwight.
It's not that I think it's the character, it's backed up by the fact that Laurie's based upon matches i've played and watched on streams quit more. I actually had a running data sheet for fun I was keeping as both killer and survivor.
Now granted this was last season but it still seems to hold true but Laurie's had a dc rate that was 10x higher than anyone else.
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@SnakeSound222 said:
What about us Halloween fans? I normally play Killer, but when I play Survivor I’d like to use Laurie because I love Halloween. I only DC if I have something else to do in real life.Oh I understand that completely and at ranks 1-3 lots of Myers lately playing but overall Laurie seems to be the new Feng Min who was the new Nea. You could always expect the dc.
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@SovererignKing said:
powerbats said:@SovererignKing said:
The stun is supposed to be a reward for playing extremely risky and having a high chance to trade. Sorry you want free stuns. You actually have to have precise timing and forethought to earn that 1000 BP.
There's actually a bug that the des admitted where you can time the stun right but still get hit. I've dropped a pallet heard the stun taken 5 steps and gotten hit. I've even had the killer teleport over to the other side to hit me and then teleport back and be stunned.
There's been a lot of killers in my game with good ping all around agreeing they shouldn't have gotten a hit.
Oh I’ve seen it on me as well, but considering the OP is talking about playing a year ago, it sounds like he is complaining they took the Pallet Vacuum away and it’s too easy for Killers now.
Agreed, just wanted to point out the differences and anytime you take time off there's going to be a noticeable difference.
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The trolls will always be seen the most since they scream the loudest but by and large the community is good.
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@meshugganah said:
So an incentive for killers to earn more bp against swf scared the devs off how again? I mean that's some really convoluted logic there since adding my bp to killers in no way limits swf. In your non stop attempts to bash the devs and swf you keep coming up with completely illogical and bad arguments.
Simple fact, giving killers more bp to face swf in no way, shape or form limits swf.
no but it makes enduring far less a rage fest.While true it doesn't make the original statement any less false which of course the poster already knew.
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I don't go on there to test or avoid it because there's buffs or nerfs to either side. I go on there to help test for bugs and see what's going on as do most probably. S far as survivors avoiding it because of buffs/nerfs the same could be said for killers several of whom over the months have posted what you're accusing survivors of doing.
I've never in the last 30 years ever avoided testing something because there was a nerf or buff to my favorite or to something I didn't like.
So stop lumping all survivors in with the ones that do the exact same thing some killers do. It's no different than when some survivors cough bar*** lump all killers in together.
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@SovererignKing said:
The stun is supposed to be a reward for playing extremely risky and having a high chance to trade. Sorry you want free stuns. You actually have to have precise timing and forethought to earn that 1000 BP.
There's actually a bug that the des admitted where you can time the stun right but still get hit. I've dropped a pallet heard the stun taken 5 steps and gotten hit. I've even had the killer teleport over to the other side to hit me and then teleport back and be stunned.
There's been a lot of killers in my game with good ping all around agreeing they shouldn't have gotten a hit.
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Well s I said in the other threads They're probably aware of the date but also given that Sony does their updates on Fridays(?). Wouldn't that mean that it comes out Thursday the 13th at 5Pm PST/8pm EST/00:00 UTC?
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@RSB said:
With that logic killer should not lose his items, when he wins, it would be fair (survivors don't lose them, when they win) but oh, it does not works that way.
They should be able to keep offerings but there needs to be a restriction on what they can keep but also based upon performance. If they do nothing but afk camp then no or camp 1st hooked person like some. So no saving Ultra raes like Mori's or the super ultra rares like hatchets, carters etc.
So if say they bring in a purple quality addon and a green quality addon and get 4k plus good performance say gold across board. They keep both addons but offering is still consumed. Now lets say they get 4k but damage no gens and get nothing in the other 3 categories. Well they keep only the green addon then.
Both sides should get something based upon performance but they need to rework the emblem system to figure in the changes for both sides.