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  • When wearing Trump's mask killer deports survivors instead of killing them.
  • You are right, i don't think it's unfair.
    Btw, someone told me you are on ps4 now :p
  • You guys are all wrong, tier 1 killer is The Lag and you know it!
  • Wolf74 said:

    @Vietfox said:
    Wolf74 said:

    @Vietfox and @Warlock_2020

    If you fail to see that, that's a you-issue.

    If you deny that the game in general favors survivor, of course you can't see the issue, but that is basically playing blind.

    Especially Warlock, because a legit balanced situational strength of a specific killer is not a "rigged game", but in a gameenviroment with a flawed timemanagement created by the Devs, 4 toolboxes totally tipp of the balance of a game that can already be gen rushed in less than 4 minutes even without any items.

    Your comparing apples and oranges here.

    But same is true for Vietfox by going the old "bring x" perk to counter something route. There are only 4 perk slots and there is to much badly designed things that cause issues. You cannot just dismiss these systemic shortcomings of the gamedesign by just saying "bring perk x".

    @Wolf74
    Certain pink addons for killers usually don't provide a balanced game to survivors either, but you won't see me crying about that, i just deal with it.
    Some killers manage to do well without dodging, why can't you?
    I admit that this game needs some tweaks, but you complain about almost everything and that makes me think that you are not good enough at this game, sorry.
    I'm sure many other killer mains can tell you the same, that the game is not that imbalamced.

    Some survivor can play without SC? Why can't the rest?
    Some survivor can play without DS? Why can't the rest?
    Shall I go on?
    What kind of an argument is that?
    You never been in the schools debate team, right?

    @Wolf74
    I play without SC and DS. If a survivor needs those perks to survive then yeah, they are as bad as those killers who dodge. The difference is that perks are meant to be used and the leave lobby button is meant to dodge bad ping, not to support cowards.
  • Wolf74 said:

    But same is true for Vietfox by going the old "bring x" perk to counter something route. There are only 4 perk slots and there is to much badly designed things that cause issues. You cannot just dismiss these systemic shortcomings of the gamedesign by just saying "bring perk x".

    @Wolf74
    I'll tell you the same i told to @The_Crusader .
    You are NOT suposed to counter everything with perks. Create a build around your weaknesses/necessities and use the skills to deal with the rest, THAT IS THE POINT OF BUILDS.
    Now i see you've been playing this game in the wrong way and i understand why you complain so much.
  • Wolf74 said:

    @Vietfox and @Warlock_2020
    If you fail to see that, that's a you-issue.
    If you deny that the game in general favors survivor, of course you can't see the issue, but that is basically playing blind.
    Especially Warlock, because a legit balanced situational strength of a specific killer is not a "rigged game", but in a gameenviroment with a flawed timemanagement created by the Devs, 4 toolboxes totally tipp of the balance of a game that can already be gen rushed in less than 4 minutes even without any items.
    Your comparing apples and oranges here.
    But same is true for Vietfox by going the old "bring x" perk to counter something route. There are only 4 perk slots and there is to much badly designed things that cause issues. You cannot just dismiss these systemic shortcomings of the gamedesign by just saying "bring perk x".

    @Wolf74
    Certain pink addons for killers usually don't provide a balanced game to survivors either, but you won't see me crying about that, i just deal with it.
    Some killers manage to do well without dodging, why can't you?
    I admit that this game needs some tweaks, but you complain about almost everything and that makes me think that you are not good enough at this game, sorry.
    I'm sure many other killer mains can tell you the same, that the game is not that imbalamced.
  • Wolf74 said:

    @Vietfox said:
    Flashlight? Dodge
    2 swf? Dodge
    2-3 toolboxes? Dodge
    P3 Claudette? Dodge
    It's funny because they make fun of survivors and their made up rules, WHICH IS PERFECTLY FINE AND I UNDERSTAND IT, but every time they dodge for stuff like that they are playing with their own made up rules as well.

    Because it is unbalanced.
    Why should I start a rigged game?
    Survivor are already to strong and multiple toolboxes make gen rush just worth.
    The new graphics will buff ninja-claudie, so why should I accept that?
    The survivor made up rules are about balanced things they don't like.

    @Wolf74
    Rigged game? No, good killers can deal with that.
    Dont like toolboxes? Bring FD.
    I don't know about you but if i don't like something i just stop doing that. Maybe go play something else if you hate it so much.
  • Flashlight? Dodge
    2 swf? Dodge
    2-3 toolboxes? Dodge
    P3 Claudette? Dodge
    It's funny because they make fun of survivors and their made up rules, WHICH IS PERFECTLY FINE AND I UNDERSTAND IT, but every time they dodge for stuff like that they are playing with their own made up rules as well.
  • @Vietfox said:
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    Iceman said:

    What do you platform do you play on because I would like to play against you right now. Anyone who plays clown gets an average of 1-2 kills per match. 

    The clown is not op. It is so easy to dodge his bottles. He can still get looped. 

    Wrong, clown is op in the right hands, as it should be.

    Yeah and today in a beautiful green sky when I played DbD I wrecked people by flying with the clown putting jack in the boxes everywhere scaring the living ######### out of people

    I'm sorry you don't know how to play with the clown.

    I'm sorry you just play 50% of the game

    I don't, i play both killer and survivor, try again.
    If you played more as a killer you would know that the clown is not as bad as you think.

    So now you know what I think?

    I just stated and mads it clearl isn't even slightly opened, he's mid tier in my tier list but nothing special

    Your mind reads are pretty weak, try again

    You are just guessing mate, can you provide some real proof?

    Wat
    Wait what??
    Please tell me what you smoke, it must be really good. I have no idea what are you talking about

    Mmh i see, u dont understand.
    The clown is mid tier due to your skills.
    I'm not saying i'm good with the clown, but i've seen clowns keeping the map pressure as good as a billy.
    @Blueberry has over 2K hours and despite the fact that we usually disagree he will tell you that the clown is a good killer as well.

    Good killer isn't mid tier? Wait what?

    Dude now I seriously doubt your sanity. Mid tier is the new trash tier? And now what's this Clown as equal as billy, are you okay?

    That statement alone is so dumb, okay whatever dude. I really don't know what to tell you if you think one char that have a power nurse like with instadown that can make pressure over the entire map in seconds at the same level as a M1 killer with bottles to slow survivors I don't know what to tell you

    I actually won't even talk to you honestly after seeing dozen of posts from you with this kind of flawed logic. You might be rank 20 or just played for less than 2weeks, that might be it, still we cannot agree in anything. When you start thinking then maybe we can have a discussion

    Good killer = above mid tier
    Keep it that way mate, i like it when someone is that hostile. Makes me be right.
    Edit: yeah, rank 20 mate, whatever makes you feel better

    So what's this video for? to show how easy survivor is?

    @MhhBurgers
    You can also see my rank and how i don't DC because of maps.
  • Delfador said:

    I mean I don't have any problem with camping but as a killer I don't see any point to camp.

    It is the most boring thing to do in the entire game, worse than repairing generators. At least generators give you skill checks here and there.

    I don't understand why people care so much about 4k. A good chase is all that matters for me.

    @Delfador
    Totally agreed. Also campers who get 4K usually get about 15-20K bps while non campers get the average of 25-30K at least even with only 2 kills.
  • @Vietfox said:
    Acromio said:

    Have fun versing Nurses and Billies 24/7 when you get out of the scrub ranks.

    Not on consoles 😜

    I play every killer at rank 1, my favorite is Freddy though, Spirit is fun and so is doctor....to an extent, wearing the hallowed blight cosmetics and playing the doctor at the same time bring your fps down like CRAZY!!!

    @PhantomMask20763
    I play almost all of them at rank 1 since i had to switch to console and i'm missing a couple of dlcs.
    Yeah the fps is an issue indeed, but i have fun with the doctor. I just wish survivors didn't get the lullaby notification when hitting the first skill check 😭
    Edit: i'm committed to master the nurse on console. 😎
  • Acromio said:
    Have fun versing Nurses and Billies 24/7 when you get out of the scrub ranks.
    Not on consoles 😜
  • I want decisive strike to force a tactical disconnect.  
    Omg 😂😂
    *survivor hits the skillcheck... Disconnected.
  • PiiFree said:

    @Vietfox said:
    That's actually the point of builds. Builds are meant to counter stuff that makes you struggle the most, no one is suposed to be able to counter everything.
    Create a build around your main weaknesses and/or necessities and use the skills to counter the rest.

    Very true but quite ironically, most Survivors never use perks that actually help them to counter the strongest Killers in the game. They use the same basic crap from early 2018 and think it will help them win. DS and Sprint Burst when everyone is playing Nurse, Billy, Spirit. Self Care when everyone is running Sloppy Butcher. Still relying on pallet looping against Killers that aren't even affected by pallets that much.

    Of course they think Killers are too strong. They basically try to beat a rock with scissors because everything else looks weak on paper, without realizing that paper > rock (oohhh that line).

    @PiiFree
    I use DS, SB and all that stuff when i got the daily of being chased by the killer for 2 minutes.
    If not, i use kindred, bond, open handed and small game. Personally i think information is the strongest weapon a survivor can get and it's been a really solid build so far.
  • Vietfox said:
    Vietfox said:

    Spirit = DC
    The Game = DC
    Found in first 15 seconds = DC because since Spirit patch most of the killers tunnel and camp you anyway.

    I play for fun and these 3 scenarios are not fun so I leave for a new match. And yes I dont care about the others when making that descision.

    Sounds like a L2P issue.
    Nah he's right. Once you're on the hook against a Spirit it's game over.

    They walk away a bit then phase walk back hooing tk catch someone unhooking you. If nobody is there they just repeat it over and over again until someone does unhook you, then they down you before you have a chance to get away and rehook you.

    If you're not the one being camped have fun doing gens solo while the other two survivors run in, get hit, run away, heal, run in, get hit, run away, heal - and repeat. Though in some cases they do manage to unhook at which point the killer puts them right back on the hook and gets to skip the timer.

    They are really boring and unfun games.
    @The_Crusader
    No it's not game over. Each killer requires a different playstyle, also if you are having issues with the spirit use lightweight, iron will, etc.

    Oh and please dont do the "bring x perk" thing. We all know that excuse gets used for every issue with the game but you cant have a perk for everything with only 4 slots.
    That's actually the point of builds. Builds are meant to counter stuff that makes you struggle the most, no one is suposed to be able to counter everything.
    Create a build around your main weaknesses and/or necessities and use the skills to counter the rest.
  • Vietfox said:

    Spirit = DC
    The Game = DC
    Found in first 15 seconds = DC because since Spirit patch most of the killers tunnel and camp you anyway.

    I play for fun and these 3 scenarios are not fun so I leave for a new match. And yes I dont care about the others when making that descision.

    Sounds like a L2P issue.
    Nah he's right. Once you're on the hook against a Spirit it's game over.

    They walk away a bit then phase walk back hooing tk catch someone unhooking you. If nobody is there they just repeat it over and over again until someone does unhook you, then they down you before you have a chance to get away and rehook you.

    If you're not the one being camped have fun doing gens solo while the other two survivors run in, get hit, run away, heal, run in, get hit, run away, heal - and repeat. Though in some cases they do manage to unhook at which point the killer puts them right back on the hook and gets to skip the timer.

    They are really boring and unfun games.
    @The_Crusader
    No it's not game over. Each killer requires a different playstyle, also if you are having issues with the spirit use lightweight, iron will, etc.
  • @Crow said:

    What is swf?

    Survive with friends
  • Spirit = DC
    The Game = DC
    Found in first 15 seconds = DC because since Spirit patch most of the killers tunnel and camp you anyway.

    I play for fun and these 3 scenarios are not fun so I leave for a new match. And yes I dont care about the others when making that descision.

    Sounds like a L2P issue.
  • Mmh, let me put this thread in my bookmarks. Gonna go for some popcorn too.
  • When the killer starts chasing me:
    image

    Loved to watch Lupin when i was a kid.
  • I think there are more rank 1 players who deranked back to 15 than players currently at rank 1.
    Legit rank 15 players are the ones having a bad time 😐
  • He's underrated in my opinion. He's not great but an instadown goes a long way to helping a killer's strength.
    Try LF without addons. He's not fast enough and loops counter the chainsaw.
    Also most of his addons suck.
  • Forums/phone, refilling my whisky glass.
  • Avariku said:
    bait posts are meant to annoy people  that's the whole point... so you should be very happy with yourself. 
    xD

    I'm actually glad this kind of people exist. They amuse me.
  • Vietfox said:
    How bad are you as Killer that you want to so brutally handicap a Survivor? I mean, that's some seriously heavy stuff you want put against them. You basically want them to be incapable of working on hex totems or exit gates. 
    Damn you! That's exactly what i was thinking when i was reading the post but you said it before.
    OP must be really bad at this game if needs all that stuff to do well indeed.
    No joke. It's not even like a small handicap. It's a full on post of trying to completely brutalize and incapacitate the Survivors. They already complain about the hatch, now the exit gates and totems? What next? Am I going to read complaints about how they need more generators to be finished? Or about how they should be visible if they're in the basement, no matter the distance of the Killer? 
    I'm surprised no one has suggested yet the idea of a hex killing the survivor who cleanse it.
  • How bad are you as Killer that you want to so brutally handicap a Survivor? I mean, that's some seriously heavy stuff you want put against them. You basically want them to be incapable of working on hex totems or exit gates. 
    Damn you! That's exactly what i was thinking when i was reading the post but you said it before.
    OP must be really bad at this game if needs all that stuff to do well indeed.
  • Leatherface + Iron grasp + mad grit + agitation + insidious.

    Nothing comes between a man and his basement.
    I rather use this:
    BBQ + PWYF + Ruin + Whispers/Sloppy.
    Carburettor tuning guide + The beast's marks.
    It's more fun than waiting in the basement and you get more bps.
  • Too many exit gates. One is enough in my opinion and then the hatch
    2 exit gates are too many?
    Yeah, let's put just one, i'm sure killers won't camp it!
  • There really are not any "unofficial rules" with this game. 
    I'm pretty sure that they all come from Survivors and all demand killers play certain ways as I've never seen a rule from a killer.
    In other words I don't see both sides agreeing here, and Killers don't particularly benefit.

    Don't let people tell you how to play. Just don't use exploits, or bugs, and such. 
    @Rebel_Raven
    I've been told by killers what outfits i shouldn't use. P3 claudette for instance.
  • Not long ago a wraith sent me a pm telling me "give me that claudette and i'll let you live". Ofc i didn't buy it, but he let me wiggle out expecting me to take him to her, claudette popped the last gen, my adrenaline triggered and we both escaped.
  • Shhhh don't bring that topic back 😨
  • @Crow said:
    Where I can see those lines? Because I can't believe that the devs themselves said that.

    The last devstream :) and about "if u frustrated plays something else by Mcote" It was a long time ago that he had to ask for forgiveness.

    And he was so damn right. If someone gets that frustrated over a video game then it's better to go play or do something else.
  • Malakir said:
    Vietfox said:
    I never do it but i understand why they do it. I've said it lots of times but i'm just gonna say it again: killers shouldn't be able to see what items survivors are carrying
    Like survivors shouldn't tell others the killer perks but here we are
    I agree, but we are not talking about this right now.
  • Vietfox said:
    I had a similar idea but got bashed for it.

    But yes reverse the effect, reveal all auras within like 24-32m for 4 seconds. It would still serve the same purpose, save Killers time, and most importantly scare the ######### out of overaltruistic survivors and hookswarmers.
    @ChesterTheMolester
    As a survivor main i would love to have something to punish hookswarmers.
    That wouldnt happen with my 3 swfs group, we take care of randoms <3
  • I had a similar idea but got bashed for it.

    But yes reverse the effect, reveal all auras within like 24-32m for 4 seconds. It would still serve the same purpose, save Killers time, and most importantly scare the ######### out of overaltruistic survivors and hookswarmers.
    @ChesterTheMolester
    As a survivor main i would love to have something to punish hookswarmers.
  • I read this quickly, but i think i like it. Would still be an anticamping perk.
  • @Vietfox said:
    TL;DR pls

    Short Version. Survivors can collect 3 items to combine into a shiv. Once shiv is complete they can perform Decisive Strike action.

    Base part of game version- You can see the auras of components for a shiv 10 meters away. Once the 3 components are collected it will take you 60 seconds to build the shiv. When grabbed by the Killer, succeed an easy Skill Check to automatically escape the Killer's grasp and stun them for 2.5 seconds.

    Perk Decisive Strike- You can see the auras of components for a shiv 15/20/25 meters away. Once the 3 components are collected it will take you 50/40/30 seconds to build the shiv. When grabbed by the Killer, succeed an easy Skill Check to automatically escape the Killer's grasp and stun them for 3/3.5/4 seconds.

    It's good because it might slow down the game, but i'm just guessing. I would need killer mains opinions about this to have a better opinion.
    PS: i must admit that i came here expecting a riot.
    Edit: this idea (crafting a shiv) reminds me of Last of us.
  • I never do it but i understand why they do it. I've said it lots of times but i'm just gonna say it again: killers shouldn't be able to see what items survivors are carrying
  • Nickenzie said:
    Vietfox said:
    Nickenzie said:

    yeah what is wrong with console?

    He's consracism! :(

    Cons(ole) racism
    1.
    Racist to console users

    Btw, I made the word up lol :p
    We got it @Nickenzie
    Lol, whenever you see me say something stupid, you should know I'm trying to stop an argument. I don't like to see people argue lol.
    Arguments are so cool  :p
  • drunky26 said:

    thanks everyone else for the replies.

    @Vietfox same here.
    i always try to be stealthy as much as i can, thats why i run empathy and dark sense, helps me stay away from the killer and not be seen.

    not a huge fan of decisive, cuz im not a [BAD WORD].

    I don't like DS because i'm not a big fan of a 1 time use perks, neither of end game perks (the only one i like is adrenaline though), but in my personal opinion DS is fine and people are making a big deal out of it.
  • Nickenzie said:

    yeah what is wrong with console?

    He's consracism! :(

    Cons(ole) racism
    1.
    Racist to console users

    Btw, I made the word up lol :p
    We got it @Nickenzie
  • Depends on the kind of survivor you want to be and if you are gonna play solo or with friends.
    Personally i just want information, everything else can be solved with skills, that's why i don't like to rely on sprint burst, decisive strike, dead hard and all that stuff (i only use those perks when i got the daily of being chased by the killer for 2 minutes with X survivor).
    That being said, my solo build is: kindred, bond, open handed and small game. (thank you @Peasant for the tip you gave me some time ago about using open handed along with kindred)
    My swf build: self care, borrowed time and the other 2 depend on what the others are running.
  • Master said:

    Amazing that DBD matchmaking servers break way more frequently than the dedicated servers hosting other games :sarcastic:

    Take my upvote
  • Malakir said:
    Blueberry said:

    @Malakir said:
    Blueberry said:

    I'd say a killer being mid-tier is pretty bad. To me, mid-tier means you can perform well but you require the survivors to make a lot of mistakes and I don't think that's a very strong place to be in where your success is dependent on survivors rather than your own skill.

    Depend on what you mean when you say mid tier. For me mid tier isn't like that. Your description for me fit better on mid-low/low tier. A mid tier for me is someone you can perform decently (2-3k on average) when you know what you can do and when mained be as solid as an average high tier.

    Like I would put the hag in mid tier for example, and i love her but if you play her casually you won't perform as good like using someone like huntress. In the other hand if you know where to put the traps, know how she works etc you can be as solid

    Then there's the god tier which its been taken by just 2 killers and you can guess who

    I mean mid-tier or low-mid those are pretty close. Our interpretation of mid-tier seems different as well. This can also very a lot depending who you put in that mid-tier. For example you mentioned hag, I would not put hag in mid-tier.

    yeah I guessed it. I always get confused a bout that since I have a personal tier list in mind but never checked if there is an official one or something. I saw some like tydetime or ardetha tier list but I always kept mine as main idea until I see an ""official"" one

    Like I put hag there cuz with her you can be very scary if you main her. Even if she's more mid-high while clown mid-low.. Still, she's easy to beat if the person who uses her don't know how to "abuse" the traps, like for example making the survivor turn in a way during a chase, cut loops etc

    Hard to master with an average reward

    Higher tier is easier to master compared to hag (arguably) and even get higher rewards
    Any killer is easy to beat if the person who plays as them doesn't know how to use them.
    Hag is a top tier killer and has given me at least 3K in almost every match since i decided to main her a few months ago.
    PS: when we talk about tiers we talk about how efficient is that killer if played properly.
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